Judy, if you want to make a change, now is the time to do it. As of now, our sites have lost any kind of Google ranking they had. So it depends on how much work you want to put into it. I personally prefer the galleries for displaying images or many images. Not sure how this one works with various size images. The page I did was just a quickie so you could see how it looked. Pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:55 PM To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Ext CSS - picture gallery page code Pat, http://www.css-layouts.org/photo-gallery/index.html Yes, that is what I'd like. However, as I work through old pages, I wonder Should I as well as How. Every photo has its own page. Every page is on an index page. Gallery is harder to maintain. Wondering, why bother? Fewer files, too, if I scrap it. What do you think? Judy _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

MSO is usually a left-over Word code. So I would delete them. Ithought Barry gave you some css for styling tables? Pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:02 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]MSO spacerun Next up for review.... ><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span> I have nearly 4,000 of those in 116 pages. Most are inside long tables. One page's table has 701 instances in it. I read the posts here, which suggest delete them all AND keep them all for appearance. https://bytes.com/topic/html-css/answers/99423-make-spaces-between-sentences -bigger-than-between-words I'm all for deleting them, unless someone can think of reasons I shouldn't??

Let me get it stable and secure first, then we can think about new ideas :-) Anne On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:14 PM, JFlorian <[email protected]> wrote: > "RootsWeb had been allowed to run for a very long time without any kind of > real supervision and thought on how to maintain it and make it secure. > That is all my group thinks about these days." > > Uh, yeah, most of us wondered bout that and thought Rootsweb deserved to > have a dedicated tech team, even if a small team. > > Uhm, let us know if you want 1,001 ideas to add to your group's thinking. > ;-) lol > > Judy > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

"RootsWeb had been allowed to run for a very long time without any kind of real supervision and thought on how to maintain it and make it secure. That is all my group thinks about these days." Uh, yeah, most of us wondered bout that and thought Rootsweb deserved to have a dedicated tech team, even if a small team. Uhm, let us know if you want 1,001 ideas to add to your group's thinking. ;-) lol Judy

I need a way to communicate with people on lists and now a whole variety of hosted sites, so I've set up a RootsWeb blog. You can find it at http://rootsweb.blog I'll still be on the list, but it seems better to have a more centralized place to make announcements. Anne

I can't promise your sites won't disappear for six months again. Because you know if I do that, something will go horribly wrong :-) But our intent is never again to go down for that long. And now I've borrowed trouble. RootsWeb had been allowed to run for a very long time without any kind of real supervision and thought on how to maintain it and make it secure. That is all my group thinks about these days. Anne On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:28 PM, JFlorian <[email protected]> wrote: > State and County xxxGenWeb are on Rootsweb accounts. > > Freepages is whatever the person wanted to do, genealogy-wise. > > So, my Rootsweb site is Washington Co PAGenWeb. But the directories I use > in my Freepages account are also about Washington Co PA (just not > xxxGenWeb). Other people use their Freepages accounts for a specific > township... or family... or school... etc. > > And. Just because someone put up their RW sites somewhere else while > frustrated doesn't mean they are off the RW server, or that they won't come > back. > > RW just needs to lay on the reassurances for those folks & all of us--- > like, no more disappearing sites for over 6 months. > > I was one of the few who preached cool heads. I'm still willing to give > Ancestry another go ; I'd rather stay than leave. But I do hope we get > some definitives about how we were always told our sites would remain > forever, even if we died, etc. (Please don't make me dig through my AOL > mail to find examples. LOL) I know the topic was on the Freepages Help > List... and from the Help Desk, like when I asked about how big my sites > could be under RW rules, and what if I died (I was very sick then). > > Judy > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Anne Mitchell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I know. Last I look we still have about 600 that are on the Free Pages > > site. > > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Patricia Geary <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately, quite a few of them (GenWeb) have moved to other > servers, > > > both State and County sites. > > > > > > pat > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Next up for review.... ><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span> I have nearly 4,000 of those in 116 pages. Most are inside long tables. One page's table has 701 instances in it. I read the posts here, which suggest delete them all AND keep them all for appearance. https://bytes.com/topic/html-css/answers/99423-make-spaces-between-sentences-bigger-than-between-words I'm all for deleting them, unless someone can think of reasons I shouldn't?? Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

Pat, http://www.css-layouts.org/photo-gallery/index.html Yes, that is what I'd like. However, as I work through old pages, I wonder Should I as well as How. Every photo has its own page. Every page is on an index page. Gallery is harder to maintain. Wondering, why bother? Fewer files, too, if I scrap it. What do you think? Judy

Judy, is this what you are trying to do? http://www.css-layouts.org/photo-gallery/index.html How many images across is going to depend on the viewport the person has available. On my 17" screen, I can see all four images in a row. Resizing the screen, changes how many images are in each row. Pat G. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:06 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Ext CSS - picture gallery page code https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_image_gallery.asp https://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_image_gallery I added the page items for div gallery. In frontpage design view, it shows as one longgggg line of boxes. In Preview, it shows 3 boxes across, then the next 3, and so on. Questions: How do I get it to show 4 boxes across, then every row under that with its 4 boxes? I'd like to have 4 boxes x 4 rows. On the suggestion of other webmasters, I took out the target="_blank" on all my webpages. So, should I remove it from the gallery page code, too? (Little pic is meant to be clicked and that opens the big picture.) Lastly, is it better to do a random pic gallery, or an alpha pic gallery? Judy

Judy, is this what you are trying to do? http://www.css-layouts.org/photo-gallery/index.html How many images across is going to depend on the viewport the person has available. On my 17" screen, I can see all four images in a row. Resizing the screen, changes how many images are in each row. Pat G. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:06 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Ext CSS - picture gallery page code https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_image_gallery.asp https://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_image_gallery I added the page items for div gallery. In frontpage design view, it shows as one longgggg line of boxes. In Preview, it shows 3 boxes across, then the next 3, and so on. Questions: How do I get it to show 4 boxes across, then every row under that with its 4 boxes? I'd like to have 4 boxes x 4 rows. On the suggestion of other webmasters, I took out the target="_blank" on all my webpages. So, should I remove it from the gallery page code, too? (Little pic is meant to be clicked and that opens the big picture.) Lastly, is it better to do a random pic gallery, or an alpha pic gallery? Judy

The problem with coding for 4 (or any number) of boxes across is that not every device viewing your website has the same screen width . On a phone, the screen is probably only 1 box wide, so the user will have to scroll sideways to see the others. What I do is code the divs to display inline-block and then let the screen width control how many boxes or photos are displayed per line. For example, see this page -- https://www.atikokanhistory.org/ahs-yearbook-gr11c-1980-81.htm (this used to be a freepages website but I couldn't wait for them). My desktop computer displays the above link at 5 photos per row in full screen width, but if I make the window smaller (narrower) then the number of photos is less per row. You could put each photo in a table, but it's easier for google if you put each photo and caption into a containing div and make each div display inline-block. Control the width of each div with a "max-width" value, not a "width", because "width" will force the box width to that value even if it is wider than your display window width (thus forcing a horizontal scan to view all of it) but "max-width" will allow your browser to shrink the photo or box to fit the window width if necessary. My CSS code for the containing div is: div.photocontainer { display: inline-block; max-width: 320px; } And if it is really important for you to have 4 boxes across regardless, then keep the same CSS code as above and simply put a <br> after every 4th box. Have fun, Charlie Dobie. At 01:05 AM 7/3/2018, you wrote: >https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_image_gallery.asp > >https://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_image_gallery > > >I added the page items for div gallery. In frontpage design view, it >shows as one longgggg line of boxes. >In Preview, it shows 3 boxes across, then the next 3, and so on. > > >Questions: >How do I get it to show 4 boxes across, then every row under that with its >4 boxes? I'd like to have 4 boxes x 4 rows. > >On the suggestion of other webmasters, I took out the target="_blank" on >all my webpages. So, should I remove it from the gallery page code, too? > (Little pic is meant to be clicked and that opens the big picture.) > >Lastly, is it better to do a random pic gallery, or an alpha pic gallery? > >Judy > > > > > >-- >-- >WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: >http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ >http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ >Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/ > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > >Archives: >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >RootsWeb community

State and County xxxGenWeb are on Rootsweb accounts. Freepages is whatever the person wanted to do, genealogy-wise. So, my Rootsweb site is Washington Co PAGenWeb. But the directories I use in my Freepages account are also about Washington Co PA (just not xxxGenWeb). Other people use their Freepages accounts for a specific township... or family... or school... etc. And. Just because someone put up their RW sites somewhere else while frustrated doesn't mean they are off the RW server, or that they won't come back. RW just needs to lay on the reassurances for those folks & all of us--- like, no more disappearing sites for over 6 months. I was one of the few who preached cool heads. I'm still willing to give Ancestry another go ; I'd rather stay than leave. But I do hope we get some definitives about how we were always told our sites would remain forever, even if we died, etc. (Please don't make me dig through my AOL mail to find examples. LOL) I know the topic was on the Freepages Help List... and from the Help Desk, like when I asked about how big my sites could be under RW rules, and what if I died (I was very sick then). Judy On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Anne Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: > I know. Last I look we still have about 600 that are on the Free Pages > site. > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Patricia Geary <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Unfortunately, quite a few of them (GenWeb) have moved to other servers, > > both State and County sites. > > > > pat > > >

https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_image_gallery.asp https://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_image_gallery I added the page items for div gallery. In frontpage design view, it shows as one longgggg line of boxes. In Preview, it shows 3 boxes across, then the next 3, and so on. Questions: How do I get it to show 4 boxes across, then every row under that with its 4 boxes? I'd like to have 4 boxes x 4 rows. On the suggestion of other webmasters, I took out the target="_blank" on all my webpages. So, should I remove it from the gallery page code, too? (Little pic is meant to be clicked and that opens the big picture.) Lastly, is it better to do a random pic gallery, or an alpha pic gallery? Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

Would help if folks read the List mails.

Janice, Information on the restoration of your web site and retrieving site contents can be found here: <https://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> Pat A. At 07:53 PM 7/1/2018, Janice Gonzales Barry via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >Hi, All, >I began posting my information in earnest >shortly after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans >in 2005. My site was in the form of a genealogy >report and contains thousands of names of my >ancestors and allied families. These families >include one line that goes back to within a few >months of the founding of New Orleans in 1718, >as well as some information from seventeenth >century Montreal and sixteenth century Spain and >Germany. The site included information from >original research that had never before been >published.. I had relied upon the freepages >service as a safeguard to protect decades of >work and to make it available free of charge to >anyone else who tied in with these >families. It had been a great comfort to me >that the site would allow me to reconstruct my >genealogy, if my hard copies {gathered in the >course of research dating from 1973} were ever >lost. I am still finding collateral descendants >and would gladly add them to the site, if it were still available.  >I would be delighted to receive any information >that would allow me to download the information >I had posted and to find out if and when the site might be restored.  >The homepage is accessed through this URL: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~creole1718/index.html > >Thank you, >Janice Gonzales Barry

Hi, All, I began posting my information in  earnest shortly after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans in 2005. My site was in the form of a genealogy report and contains thousands of names of my ancestors and allied families.  These families include one line that goes back to within a few months of the founding of New Orleans in 1718, as well as some information from seventeenth century Montreal and sixteenth century Spain and Germany.  The site included information from original research that had never before been published..  I had relied upon the freepages service as a safeguard to protect decades of work and to make it available free of charge to anyone else who tied in with these families.  It had been a great comfort to me that the site would allow me to reconstruct my genealogy, if my hard copies {gathered in the course of research dating from 1973} were ever lost. I am still finding collateral descendants and would gladly add them to the site, if it were still available.   I would be delighted to receive any information that would allow me to download the information I had posted and to find out if and when the site might be restored.    The homepage is accessed through this URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~creole1718/index.html Thank you, Janice Gonzales Barry

I took the easy way to fix the 2nd & 3rd lines. I combined them. I'll try the suggestions the next time I have 2 lines of text beside a picture.. <...img class="imglft" src="images/church.jpg" alt-"1799s church facade" width="125" height="115" alt="church picture"> <...h2...>Records and Photos of Churches in Washington County PA</h2> <...br>

Have you tried closing the first of the paragraph <p> tags? Derek Boddington -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher <[email protected]> Sent: 01 July 2018 16:43 To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: img float example _include Judy, floating elements will float "up" to fill whatever empty space they can find. When you have floated elements left and/or right and there is space left in the middle or either side, if it will fit, the next floating element will float up to fill that space. To prevent that, after you have finished your floats for a particular section, insert a horizontal rule <hr> or use an empty division: <div style="clear: both;"></div> Pat At 01:29 AM 7/1/2018, JFlorian wrote: >I have an _include for a header on a section of pages. > > <p><....img class="imglft" src="images/church.jpg" alt-"1799s >church facade" width="125" height="115" alt="church picture"> > ><....h2 class="imgrgt">Churches of Washington County PA</h2> > <p class="imgrgt"><b>Churches, Records, Photos</p> > <br> > >The 3rd line is showing above the h2 line. > >it should be >one pic Churches of Washington County PA >more pic Churches, Records, Photos > >Why is the records line showing before the of Washington Co line? > >Thanks > >Judy > >-- >-- >WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: >http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ >http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ >Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/ > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >sweb.com/ > >Archives: >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] >sweb.com/ > >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have been working on all sorts of setting combinations with Ipswitch's WS_FTP and discovered that sftp://sitesuser.rootsweb.com was the main problem. Previously we didn't have ftp in front of the host name. After making it sitesuser.rootsweb.com and changing the port to 22 I no longer got an immediate error message, but it did time out trying. I finally caved and downloaded Filezilla. Caution when you do - even though I thought I uncheck boxes for extra stuff it still install Chrome and hijacked my browser home page. The program worked fine, but it's nuts to have two ftp programs when one should do the trick for all sites. Good luck, Susan https://sites.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/

Judy, floating elements will float "up" to fill whatever empty space they can find. When you have floated elements left and/or right and there is space left in the middle or either side, if it will fit, the next floating element will float up to fill that space. To prevent that, after you have finished your floats for a particular section, insert a horizontal rule <hr> or use an empty division: <div style="clear: both;"></div> Pat At 01:29 AM 7/1/2018, JFlorian wrote: >I have an _include for a header on a section of pages. > > <p><....img class="imglft" src="images/church.jpg" alt-"1799s church >facade" width="125" height="115" alt="church picture"> > ><....h2 class="imgrgt">Churches of Washington County PA</h2> > <p class="imgrgt"><b>Churches, Records, Photos</p> > <br> > >The 3rd line is showing above the h2 line. > >it should be >one pic Churches of Washington County PA >more pic Churches, Records, Photos > >Why is the records line showing before the of Washington Co line? > >Thanks > >Judy > >-- >-- >WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: >http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ >http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ >Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/ > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > >Archives: >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >RootsWeb community