I'm lost.... old tables have stuff like class="xl26" (each one is a different number though) And mso- stupid stuff that I don't understand. Fp is balking at finding any part of the string, other than just mso. Examples: <...table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="1462" bordercolorlight="#C0C0C0" bordercolordark="#808080"> <...col width="33" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1206;width:25pt"> <....col width="35" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1280;width:26pt"> <...col width="179" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:6546;width:134pt"> <...col width="193" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:7058;width:145pt"> <...col width="42" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1536;width:32pt"> <...col width="113" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:4132;width:85pt"> <...col width="105" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:3840;width:79pt"> <...col width="123" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:4498;width:92pt"> <...col width="358" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:13092;width:269pt"> <...col width="28" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1024;width:21pt"> <...col width="84" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:3072;width:63pt"> <...col width="273" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:9984;width:205pt"> <...col width="142" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:5193;width:107pt"> <...col width="266" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:9728;width:200pt"> <...col width="287" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:10496;width:215pt"> <...col width="171" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:6253;width:128pt"> <...col width="425" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:15542;width:319pt"> <...col width="302" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:11044;width:227pt"> <...col width="92" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:3364;width:69pt"> <,,,col width="662" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:24210;width:497pt"> <...tr height="34" style="height:25.5pt"> <...td height="34" class="xl26" width="24" style="height: 25.5pt" bgcolor="#FFFFCC"> <h5>Vol.</h5> It's no wonder that former webmasters left this mess. This is one of the messiest tables, actually it's more than one. What parts can I remove? J

Actually, sigh, I spoke too soon. I only saw the "site" one in Google results (http://sites.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ ). Oh well. So, maybe the Searches will work on the "real" sites. LOLOL Sorry!

Hi Barry, I never learned the SS includes. Maybe in a couple years. I'm still working on fixing up this site with the Ext CSS. Judy

Anne, First, thank you for releasing my RW site. That was fast! I was surprised to see it back. Still on page 1, but dropped a few slots in Google. Nothing I can't recover. But the search engines on the site are broken-- give zero results for on or off the site. Google and Freefind I suspect something little in RW server is turned off, or blocked? OR, is there a URL change?? It's such a big, important way that folks navigate. Could you add this to your "Investigate it" list? If it isn't an issue on RW side, how do we get on-site Search back--- maybe just ask the services to respider the site??? If you could ask Tech, first, I'd appreciate it. Thank you, Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

Pat, The one-liners are submitter info. I wanted to standardize the wording to make it uniform. But one person can submit across multiple folders, and the wording must change on some, such as submitting photos from Great Aunt Lucy's scrapbook.... vs typing Census transcripts and researching those records As they say.... It's complicated. Still don't know why this one failed. J

Judy, The other way is to add a Server Side Include in to the existing Frontpage Include, Barry ---------------------- On 13/07/2018 09:12, Patricia Geary wrote: > If the include is going to be inserted as part of each page, why do you want > two separate includes with one inserted into the other? Why not put them > together? > > The include file is just a html page. The program only pays attention to > what is in between the opening and closing body tag. You troubleshoot the > same way you do any other html page. It has been so long since I have used > even frontpage 2003. > > pat > -----Original Message----- > From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:00 PM > To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Frontpage _includes > > Are you going to use FP includes? If so yes. > == > > Yes, Fp2000. > > Okay, how do I troubleshoot that one? It's just one line, but I can't open > that _include. > > Idea -- I'll try to copy the broken include into xxx_2.html and see if I can > recover that one first, then work on why it broke inside the other one. > Any other ideas? > > It isn't a huge deal, but a pain to figure out why the one broke and try to > fix 2 includes now. > >

If the include is going to be inserted as part of each page, why do you want two separate includes with one inserted into the other? Why not put them together? The include file is just a html page. The program only pays attention to what is in between the opening and closing body tag. You troubleshoot the same way you do any other html page. It has been so long since I have used even frontpage 2003. pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:00 PM To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Frontpage _includes Are you going to use FP includes? If so yes. == Yes, Fp2000. Okay, how do I troubleshoot that one? It's just one line, but I can't open that _include. Idea -- I'll try to copy the broken include into xxx_2.html and see if I can recover that one first, then work on why it broke inside the other one. Any other ideas? It isn't a huge deal, but a pain to figure out why the one broke and try to fix 2 includes now.

Are you going to use FP includes? If so yes. == Yes, Fp2000. Okay, how do I troubleshoot that one? It's just one line, but I can't open that _include. Idea -- I'll try to copy the broken include into xxx_2.html and see if I can recover that one first, then work on why it broke inside the other one. Any other ideas? It isn't a huge deal, but a pain to figure out why the one broke and try to fix 2 includes now. J

Are you going to use FP includes? If so yes. pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:40 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Frontpage _includes Redoing my last website and decided to put a lot of repetitive info into _includes. Question: Can a small include of text be put inside another include of text? If not, why not?

Redoing my last website and decided to put a lot of repetitive info into _includes. Question: Can a small include of text be put inside another include of text? If not, why not?

Once your site has been restored, you will need to agree to Terms of Service and then get a new password to access the site. Anne On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Wayne Setzer <[email protected]> wrote: > When our websitea are restored, will our FTP password be the same as > before. I understand we will have to get a new password for the website. > Wlsetzer > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=x651aMvkcdmKXsLoGx_QIHbCUVu2-7h6-hTb8LOLSrk&s=K3gjxQLtZBpI4kxSdNn6XekF15BKziU3fV_livYj3LI&e= > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailinglists.rootsweb&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=x651aMvkcdmKXsLoGx_QIHbCUVu2-7h6-hTb8LOLSrk&s=CsZcMl_OGnZF3llddACEVca4suQBkXZsIpJRtS3Q4tY&e=. > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help/ > > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=x651aMvkcdmKXsLoGx_QIHbCUVu2-7h6-hTb8LOLSrk&s=88HVRvmH3f0ezGwx6goCgkC3oQdFmeZqhjyKS4elo8o&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=x651aMvkcdmKXsLoGx_QIHbCUVu2-7h6-hTb8LOLSrk&s=ob7CWgmg27AMFX3VvUMwJ3QHAcDojm9PtuNPEkJ1Xhk&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=x651aMvkcdmKXsLoGx_QIHbCUVu2-7h6-hTb8LOLSrk&s=eiLFvBHmAz_raRBquQgWIu10MrFHsnhEsR4yVyi5N5U&e= > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

At 11:43 AM 7/9/2018, Wayne Setzer wrote: >When our websitea are restored, will our FTP password be the same as >before. I understand we will have to get a new password for the >website. Wlsetzer You will need to get a new password. If your site is ~xyz123 go to http://sites.rootsweb.com/~xyz123 If your site is there, you can then go to https://useraccount.rootsweb.com/websites/requestChangePassword and request your password be reset. You will also be agreeing to Terms of Service. Pat A.

When our websitea are restored, will our FTP password be the same as before. I understand we will have to get a new password for the website. Wlsetzer == I assume the answer is the entry points for the password must match. It was always like that.

When our websitea are restored, will our FTP password be the same as before. I understand we will have to get a new password for the website. Wlsetzer

If you want it back, go to: https://useraccount.rootsweb.com/websites/restoreWebsite and fill it out. Make your best guesses. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syble Glasscock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 5:51 AM Subject: [FreeHelp]Restoring web pages My freepages are still not restore, what do I need to do to get them restored?This was what the link was previously [email protected] Thanks so much for your helpSyble

There has been no loss of data on any version of the hosted websites. We scan for viruses and other malware to protect your safety and the safety of your viewers. If an infected file is found it is removed. I suppose that data would then be lost, but I think that is reasonable. Is this taking more time than anyone would like? Yes. But we will get sites up and available as soon as possible. Anne On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 8:26 AM, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP < [email protected]> wrote: > > Anne, if I may abuse a little more of your time and courtesy ... > > > As no doubt many others I have requested the return of my website, and, as > they, read that it will have to be scanned. Please would you now explain, > also precisely, what this scanning involves and the necessity for it. There > was additionally mention of perhaps some loss of data: does this mean that > six months ago there was an "event" which could have caused loss - and if > so, what was it? > > > My european ideas cause me to believe that transparency is the best, most > useful, policy!!! > > > > With all good wishes to yourself and team, > Caroline > > > ____ > > "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury > "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html > > Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. > > NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; > traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French > copyright law. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne Mitchell <[email protected]> > To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jul 4, 2018 4:38 pm > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Update > > Caroline, in response to your questions about security, it isn't the HTML > pages that are the issue or the CSS on them. > > All of the backend servers, the database access code are being redone. All > of our systems have been reviewed and are now being redone. It is > everything that produces the HTML pages that require the work. > > And it just takes time. > > Anne > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 8:36 PM, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Anne, thank you for coming online, and for all your efforts. > > > > > > Please, could you tell us clearly and precisely what this "security" > > problem really is? The early information just didn't make sense. I've > asked > > several IT experts, investigators, and they cannot understand how there > can > > be such a problem with html / css pages. Is it perhaps that server space > > was used for purposes other than fh, genealogy? Surely it could also be > > useful for you that we should all understand, and maybe help in the > future > > to avoid problems? > > > > > > Then, of course, there are little IT wizards of age five to fifteen or > so, > > who find the login password, and know how to have some fun with server > > space, all unbeknownst to their happy parent. > > > > > > > > You mentioned that pages might need to be recoded: to what level of > > html/css? Will html4 still be read? The idea of putting research on a > > back-burner while I recode - at my time of life (73) - makes me shudder > and > > want to howl with anguish .... > > > > > > Legacy websites: I was also told of this option if no-one took over from > a > > deceased person; surely Ancestry has a copy of the original contract? > > > > > > > > Thank you again for all the hard work being done by yourself and group, > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > Chambon sur Voueize, 23170, France > > > > > > ____ > > > > "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury > > "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ > > cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html > > > > Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. > > > > NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; > > traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French > > copyright law. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anne Mitchell <[email protected]> > > To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wed, Jul 4, 2018 12:05 am > > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Update > > > > I can't promise your sites won't disappear for six months again. Because > > you know if I do that, something will go horribly wrong :-) > > > > But our intent is never again to go down for that long. And now I've > > borrowed trouble. > > > > RootsWeb had been allowed to run for a very long time without any kind of > > real supervision and thought on how to maintain it and make it secure. > > That is all my group thinks about these days. > > > > Anne > > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:28 PM, JFlorian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > State and County xxxGenWeb are on Rootsweb accounts. > > > > > > Freepages is whatever the person wanted to do, genealogy-wise. > > > > > > So, my Rootsweb site is Washington Co PAGenWeb. But the directories I > > use > > > in my Freepages account are also about Washington Co PA (just not > > > xxxGenWeb). Other people use their Freepages accounts for a specific > > > township... or family... or school... etc. > > > > > > And. Just because someone put up their RW sites somewhere else while > > > frustrated doesn't mean they are off the RW server, or that they won't > > come > > > back. > > > > > > RW just needs to lay on the reassurances for those folks & all of > us--- > > > like, no more disappearing sites for over 6 months. > > > > > > I was one of the few who preached cool heads. I'm still willing to give > > > Ancestry another go ; I'd rather stay than leave. But I do hope we get > > > some definitives about how we were always told our sites would remain > > > forever, even if we died, etc. (Please don't make me dig through my > AOL > > > mail to find examples. LOL) I know the topic was on the Freepages Help > > > List... and from the Help Desk, like when I asked about how big my > sites > > > could be under RW rules, and what if I died (I was very sick then). > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Anne Mitchell <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I know. 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At 07:51 AM 7/9/2018, Syble Glasscock via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >My freepages are still not restore, what do I >need to do to get them restored?This was what >the link was previously [email protected] >Thanks so much for your helpSyble Fill out the form at https://useraccount.rootsweb.com/websites/restoreWebsite Pat A.

My freepages are still not restore, what do I need to do to get them restored?This was what the link was previously [email protected] Thanks so much for your helpSyble

I'm okay with the free version I have. Thanks.

Thank you, Pat A & Pat G. My fingers are tired from doing fixes manually.