Thank you, Barry. I've never used Reg Ex, only heard about it.

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I've written up an HTML page to better display the content of my original post on the subject, that can be found at:- https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__countjustonce.com_test_mso-2Dremove-2D1.html&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=LfkOHUS1eS5dMDXKxZV4v6V0PXGK3ftfaeRyyhclN7c&s=VYQxpWIXwTe4EvmxThsYov6iGh4ZvixDGWL3X_6rY5M&e= Barry ----------------------------- On 16/07/2018 10:23, Barry Carlson wrote: > The MSO (MicroSoft Office) code bloat problem is slowly becoming a > dinosaur vintage issue, i.e. soon to be extinct. > > For some it is still a live issue, but there are ways of dealing with > it. Though no magic bullet, Regular Expressions (RegEx) can be invoked > to handle pesky problems. > > For those using Notepad++ as their Text Editor the following > description will demonstrate a method of removing the MSO code and > either replacing it with wanted code or nothing. > > Take a look at the following lines of code - > > <!-- > <col style="width:33" > style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1206;width:25pt"> > <col style="width:35" > style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1280;width:26pt"> > <col style="width:179" > style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:6546;width:134pt"> > --> > > The first style in each col tag is incorrect, i.e. it needs px added > after the width:[value]. The second style is essentially all MSO code, > with the exception of the width:[value]pt at the end, which means it > can be removed as width:[value]pt equates to the width:[value]px that > should have been written in the first style. > > Open Notepad++ > > 1.. In a new page copy and paste the 3 lines of code shown above. > 2.. Go to top of page and click on Search > 3.. Click on Replace, then type or Copy & Paste- " style="[^"]+" -into > the 'Find what' textbox, >       which means - match anything including the opening and closing > quotes - >       where the + means as many times as necessary. > 4.. Ensure the checkbox to the right of 'Regular expression' is > checked, then > 5.. In the 'Replace with' textbox type or Copy & Paste- px" / >       which will add px" after each width[value], plus a space then a > forward slash, as the col tag is self-closing. > 6.. Click on the line above the first col style, then bring the > Replace dialogue box back into focus by clicking on it again. > 7.. In the dialogue box click on the 'Find Next' button, and the first > content to be removed will be highlighted. > 8.. Click the 'Replace All' button and the desired content will be > removed from the 3 lines of code, leaving the required styles remaining. > > Note: the forward slash is optional in HTML5, but as the 'col' tag is > self-closing, earlier HTML versions should have it to be compliant > with their Doctype. > > The changes to the 3 lines of code above result in the following:- > > <!-- > <col style="width:33px" /> > <col style="width:35px" /> > <col style="width:179px" /> > --> > > Finally, if something goes wrong, don't panic! Use the Undo button in > the toolbar to revert back to the opening code. > > Barry > >

Unsuscribe the letter -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 71 Datum: 2018-07-16T10:11:36+0200 Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Send FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of FREEPAGES-HELP digest..." When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Dealing to MSO Code Bloat - using RegEx (Barry Carlson) 2. County PAGenWeb -- Website links to Ancestry trees -- still allowed? (JFlorian) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:23:28 +1200 From: Barry Carlson <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Dealing to MSO Code Bloat - using RegEx To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed The MSO (MicroSoft Office) code bloat problem is slowly becoming a dinosaur vintage issue, i.e. soon to be extinct. For some it is still a live issue, but there are ways of dealing with it. Though no magic bullet, Regular Expressions (RegEx) can be invoked to handle pesky problems. For those using Notepad++ as their Text Editor the following description will demonstrate a method of removing the MSO code and either replacing it with wanted code or nothing. Take a look at the following lines of code - <!-- <col style="width:33" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1206;width:25pt"> <col style="width:35" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1280;width:26pt"> <col style="width:179" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:6546;width:134pt"> --> The first style in each col tag is incorrect, i.e. it needs px added after the width:[value]. The second style is essentially all MSO code, with the exception of the width:[value]pt at the end, which means it can be removed as width:[value]pt equates to the width:[value]px that should have been written in the first style. Open Notepad++ 1.. In a new page copy and paste the 3 lines of code shown above. 2.. Go to top of page and click on Search 3.. Click on Replace, then type or Copy & Paste- " style="[^"]+" -into the 'Find what' textbox,       which means - match anything including the opening and closing quotes -       where the + means as many times as necessary. 4.. Ensure the checkbox to the right of 'Regular expression' is checked, then 5.. In the 'Replace with' textbox type or Copy & Paste- px" /       which will add px" after each width[value], plus a space then a forward slash, as the col tag is self-closing. 6.. Click on the line above the first col style, then bring the Replace dialogue box back into focus by clicking on it again. 7.. In the dialogue box click on the 'Find Next' button, and the first content to be removed will be highlighted. 8.. Click the 'Replace All' button and the desired content will be removed from the 3 lines of code, leaving the required styles remaining. Note: the forward slash is optional in HTML5, but as the 'col' tag is self-closing, earlier HTML versions should have it to be compliant with their Doctype. The changes to the 3 lines of code above result in the following:- <!-- <col style="width:33px" /> <col style="width:35px" /> <col style="width:179px" /> --> Finally, if something goes wrong, don't panic! Use the Undo button in the toolbar to revert back to the opening code. Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 23:43:24 -0400 From: JFlorian <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]County PAGenWeb -- Website links to Ancestry trees -- still allowed? To: Anne Gillespie Mitchell <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "LIST: [email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Working on my County site & found a broken link, which brings up the question.... Will linking on our county web pages to Ancestry Trees still work? ex: http:/trees.ancestry.com/tree/1652141/family Looks like I had that link on cemetery pages and a biography page. Will everyone have to log in to see the tree? No skin off my nose to remove the link... but want to ask before I strip out the links. 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Working on my County site & found a broken link, which brings up the question.... Will linking on our county web pages to Ancestry Trees still work? ex: http:/trees.ancestry.com/tree/1652141/family Looks like I had that link on cemetery pages and a biography page. Will everyone have to log in to see the tree? No skin off my nose to remove the link... but want to ask before I strip out the links. Seems a waste though to ditch site helpfulness.... and a waste for Ancestry getting more traffic. :-/ Judy P.S. Could we get a list of Ancestry areas that won't work to link to now?

The MSO (MicroSoft Office) code bloat problem is slowly becoming a dinosaur vintage issue, i.e. soon to be extinct. For some it is still a live issue, but there are ways of dealing with it. Though no magic bullet, Regular Expressions (RegEx) can be invoked to handle pesky problems. For those using Notepad++ as their Text Editor the following description will demonstrate a method of removing the MSO code and either replacing it with wanted code or nothing. Take a look at the following lines of code - <!-- <col style="width:33" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1206;width:25pt"> <col style="width:35" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1280;width:26pt"> <col style="width:179" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:6546;width:134pt"> --> The first style in each col tag is incorrect, i.e. it needs px added after the width:[value]. The second style is essentially all MSO code, with the exception of the width:[value]pt at the end, which means it can be removed as width:[value]pt equates to the width:[value]px that should have been written in the first style. Open Notepad++ 1.. In a new page copy and paste the 3 lines of code shown above. 2.. Go to top of page and click on Search 3.. Click on Replace, then type or Copy & Paste- " style="[^"]+" -into the 'Find what' textbox,       which means - match anything including the opening and closing quotes -       where the + means as many times as necessary. 4.. Ensure the checkbox to the right of 'Regular expression' is checked, then 5.. In the 'Replace with' textbox type or Copy & Paste- px" /       which will add px" after each width[value], plus a space then a forward slash, as the col tag is self-closing. 6.. Click on the line above the first col style, then bring the Replace dialogue box back into focus by clicking on it again. 7.. In the dialogue box click on the 'Find Next' button, and the first content to be removed will be highlighted. 8.. Click the 'Replace All' button and the desired content will be removed from the 3 lines of code, leaving the required styles remaining. Note: the forward slash is optional in HTML5, but as the 'col' tag is self-closing, earlier HTML versions should have it to be compliant with their Doctype. The changes to the 3 lines of code above result in the following:- <!-- <col style="width:33px" /> <col style="width:35px" /> <col style="width:179px" /> --> Finally, if something goes wrong, don't panic! Use the Undo button in the toolbar to revert back to the opening code. Barry

Hi Rosemary, The mso tag refers to any Microsoft Office product. So there's no MSO product I can copy the table into, because I would only pick up the code anyway. Unfortunately, this is a pick a code, find-delete situation. I've cleaned a few pages before... but this site uses long, wide cemetery data tables. Huge tables, on numerous pages. It IS slow going. But I'll be the best Yankee "MSO Cleaner Expert" in the end! Tonight, for a break, I switched to deleting the b(bold) after h2, since h2 is bold now in CSS. If I ever finish this site, I think I will deserve a Pat Greary Cleaning Award--LOL. Gosh, I still remember being new and not understanding that folders on my PC needed to match what was online. yikes--what a mess. Thanks again, Rosemary. :-)

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I'm a novice at coding and do mine mostly be trial and error sticking to the principle of KISS, so this may be a daft idea.... Would it be possible to copy the table from the web page with the data you want to keep (not the code side, the visual part) and paste it into an excel sheet. From there you could make sure everything is in the right column and then add extra columns where you place you can add the code to break the rows and cells up. It would be one table at a time, but if every piece of MSO code-bloat is unique, that would be a big job. Rosemary On 13/07/2018 22:27, Ralph Taylor wrote: > Yep, Judy, you've inherited a table that was saved from Excel to HTML. You > have a classic case of MSO code-bloat, proceeding from the assumption that > every individual element must have unique styling. > > It's like the piano-playing dog: OK, it can hit the keys with its paws but > the song won't make anyone's list of favorites. > > As to "What parts can I remove?", I'd say just about everything but the > basic HTML tags (table, tr, th, td) -- all that "mso-stupid" stuff. And, of > course you don't understand it; no one does. > > Let row heights and column widths find their natural dimensions. Take out > all the styling, then add back your own to style the cells how you want, > according to CSS classes you define, or don't style them at all. > > That's not to say it will be easy. With every label being unique, global > search-and-replace finds only one item at a time. You're sort of reduced to > manual editing, one line at a time. It's a real pain in the neck. > > -rt_/) > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=xvwWbmvmqB6OCmW70ekX_eh30JMb2a67gW-SUYRAyco&s=mMWM0ZHDCMBk3fw3vP0CrpwL3qZNwyMVJhs4JsoTfdw&e= > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help/ > > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=xvwWbmvmqB6OCmW70ekX_eh30JMb2a67gW-SUYRAyco&s=2ctPwOLHpBxSHeYGGDvPMNsRZZmVACM8ldsv5TAH044&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=xvwWbmvmqB6OCmW70ekX_eh30JMb2a67gW-SUYRAyco&s=fQiHhPi9HgcWf8YZv6dyJH_eHjTSgP2bxFYwD1O75JI&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=xvwWbmvmqB6OCmW70ekX_eh30JMb2a67gW-SUYRAyco&s=14n0BeJ8yVOO0c6dsl1OyBw2m2IwqLG_qHI3zGSoopE&e= > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Actually, your pages will most likely come back online and Google will index them. On 07/13/2018 11:28 AM, Charles Dobie wrote: > I've moved all of my freepages material to four separate websites with > their own domain names. I googled some key phrases which used to > appear in the freepages versions and they've completely dropped out of > Google. So I guess my question is: if I don't restore my old freepages > sites, then will Google no longer index them? > If true, then that is exactly what I want. If for some reason I want > to restore my freepages, then I'll need to replace all the files > anyway, as I've added lots of material since the first of the year. > Thanks, > > Charles Dobie, > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=OlNY9mRfUmjPXwzTSp7u9XUzv7n8oHxBTXGMdtj9KBQ&s=phNienXeSKPQ1krr-8vLlVQd6q_hBpl3HtqmAYGT0mo&e= > > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help/ > > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=OlNY9mRfUmjPXwzTSp7u9XUzv7n8oHxBTXGMdtj9KBQ&s=uxpecnIvyb81jzvH1FXOvQ00XWN7S0QhNL5rwZ9DgYs&e=  Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=OlNY9mRfUmjPXwzTSp7u9XUzv7n8oHxBTXGMdtj9KBQ&s=G3_87z2xREmM868cdIGBBO77-zWXY85o4jxkVDdzzQc&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=OlNY9mRfUmjPXwzTSp7u9XUzv7n8oHxBTXGMdtj9KBQ&s=1pMNtcPTBHamfwDmvK1w6PCggspPTWBtaFFMMOBhxKg&e= > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > -- "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." Mark Twain

For those involved in with Search and Replace editing, the Windows text editor (Notepad) is about to get into catch up mode... In today's Windows 10 test build, Microsoft is adding new options to the find/replace feature in Notepad. There's a new option to do wrap-around find/replace to the find dialog, and Notepad also will remember previously entered values and the state of check-boxes so as to automatically populate them next time users open the "Find" dialog." There's also an option allowing quick text zooming (under View >Zoom). The current zoom level will be displayed in the status bar. Notepad also is getting the ability to display line and column numbers when word-wrap is enabled. Other new Notepad additions with this build, according to Microsoft: * Improved performance when opening large files in Notepad * Support for Ctrl + Backspace for deleting the previous word * Arrow keys now correctly deselect text first before moving the cursor * When saving a file in Notepad, the line and column number no longer reset to 1 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_microsofts-2Dlatest-2Dwindows-2D10-2Dredstone-2D5-2Dtest-2Dbuild-2Dadds-2Dlots-2Dof-2Dnew-2Dnotepad-2Dfeatures_&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=Z_HTfwNaLBTkSbTlLhTkOC3895MW8Di216a0BN5GQJY&s=7U42uvhbyAdBNyCP6LQlQSUKarXUuhejNYs7fjGT0RQ&e= Barry

Yep, Judy, you've inherited a table that was saved from Excel to HTML. You have a classic case of MSO code-bloat, proceeding from the assumption that every individual element must have unique styling. It's like the piano-playing dog: OK, it can hit the keys with its paws but the song won't make anyone's list of favorites. As to "What parts can I remove?", I'd say just about everything but the basic HTML tags (table, tr, th, td) -- all that "mso-stupid" stuff. And, of course you don't understand it; no one does. Let row heights and column widths find their natural dimensions. Take out all the styling, then add back your own to style the cells how you want, according to CSS classes you define, or don't style them at all. That's not to say it will be easy. With every label being unique, global search-and-replace finds only one item at a time. You're sort of reduced to manual editing, one line at a time. It's a real pain in the neck. -rt_/)

In addition to all of the previously released sites that you will find here: https://home.rootsweb.com/sites/siteDirectory we have made more live. You can find the list here: http://rootsweb.blog/2018/07/13/a-new-set-of-rootsweb-hosted-web-sites-are-live/ It will take a while to reach all of the owners of these pages, so I wanted to publish the list. More are coming, so if your site is not on this list, we are working on them. Also, we are working to speed up this process. Like you, we want these pages up and viewable. Anne

I've moved all of my freepages material to four separate websites with their own domain names. I googled some key phrases which used to appear in the freepages versions and they've completely dropped out of Google. So I guess my question is: if I don't restore my old freepages sites, then will Google no longer index them? If true, then that is exactly what I want. If for some reason I want to restore my freepages, then I'll need to replace all the files anyway, as I've added lots of material since the first of the year. Thanks, Charles Dobie, [email protected]

But think how good it will feel when you are finished and you have all of these nice clean tables. Pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:40 AM To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Tearing my hair out -- mso style tags in tables I've signed up for misery, since this site has so many table data pages and so many picture pages. Determined, though. Just afraid I'll mess up the data on these. Guess it's time for a deep breath and a wrecking ball.

Judy, some resources for styling tables using css https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3schools.com_css_css-5Ftable.asp&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=aA3KxhRc3_6oFwzvJSGmBFpdKarJ_bBcBoV-Gt-Yhn0&s=__rTrUqGgWltCftV-23DaLViPyYsuHzG6xASUWhdDuQ&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__developer.mozilla.org_en-2DUS_docs_Learn_CSS_Styling-5Fboxes_Styling-5Ftab&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=aA3KxhRc3_6oFwzvJSGmBFpdKarJ_bBcBoV-Gt-Yhn0&s=XPTB4ZffTqaiubAgBJj2Scs70HD6t97n6odQdpPivXU&e= les This one might be fun to play with https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__divtable.com_table-2Dstyler_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=aA3KxhRc3_6oFwzvJSGmBFpdKarJ_bBcBoV-Gt-Yhn0&s=mBA3BcFdO-MqkrKCYCA5EQLkbgGa70dW0nMgtDkKOBE&e= Google styling tables using css and there are many more. Firefox USED TO have a great addon that allowed you to copy and paste a table from a web page to a new webpage and get rid of all the code with the exception of the actual table. Alas, it is no more. There are a large number of table queries available for use with Expression Web to clean tables but they don't work with FP. Pat

I've signed up for misery, since this site has so many table data pages and so many picture pages. Determined, though. Just afraid I'll mess up the data on these. Guess it's time for a deep breath and a wrecking ball. J

When I first took over redoing the DeWitt County IL GenWeb site, there were hundreds of pages with Word formatting as part of the tables. I removed EVERYTHING except the content and the basic HTML table code. Once the page was clean of all of the crap code, I then used CSS to style the table. For me that was the easiest way. I never add a height to a table. I let the content of the table dictate the height. pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:16 AM To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Tearing my hair out -- mso style tags in tables I have the CSS Barry did. So I don't need anything re CSS, just info on this mso junk. I'm unsure what to do with all of the mso statements and how to switch these to css if needed, especially for column and cell width & height. If I can ditch all of that, too (??), then I'll try NoteTab Lite to get rid of it since Fp is refusing to find the mso pieces I see. I just removed thousands of h5 tags last night on these tables. Scratching head-- they were on *every* row. And h codes followed by bold-- have many thousands of <...h3><..b>

I have the CSS Barry did. So I don't need anything re CSS, just info on this mso junk. I'm unsure what to do with all of the mso statements and how to switch these to css if needed, especially for column and cell width & height. If I can ditch all of that, too (??), then I'll try NoteTab Lite to get rid of it since Fp is refusing to find the mso pieces I see. I just removed thousands of h5 tags last night on these tables. Scratching head-- they were on *every* row. And h codes followed by bold-- have many thousands of <...h3><..b> J

Judy, didn't Barry help you clean up some of your tables in other parts of your site and convert them to css? If so look at those and see how they are done and what they include. Mine are all basic tables with a class applied for the styling. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3schools.com_w3css_w3css-5Ftables.asp&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=bSoGeU1aFfyvzC2AWB_JXNqJQc6bF3amlRBKlkIjslc&s=Wuan4W7p_U0FPsWvIDvMEagFOpz5OdCKXIyMX2fEzlU&e= All the mso stuff is from using MS Word to create the document. You should be able to remove all of the excess code EXCEPT the HTML for the tables and once clean style them using css. Easy NO! Quick NO! I think I have a table I did for you many moons ago still on my css-layouts.org site. I will try and locate it later today and send you the link. pat -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 10:02 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Tearing my hair out -- mso style tags in tables I'm lost.... old tables have stuff like class="xl26" (each one is a different number though) And mso- stupid stuff that I don't understand. Fp is balking at finding any part of the string, other than just mso. Examples: <...table border="1" cellspacing="0" width="1462" bordercolorlight="#C0C0C0" bordercolordark="#808080"> <...col width="33" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1206;width:25pt"> <....col width="35" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1280;width:26pt"> <...col width="179" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:6546;width:134pt"> <...col width="193" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:7058;width:145pt"> <...col width="42" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:1536;width:32pt"> <...col width="113" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:4132;width:85pt"> <...col width="105"