I am so glad I started doing genealogy web pages in 1996 when KISS was the only option. When bold wasn't <b> but <bold> and relative links were the logical way to code, and no one had invented CSS and includes and all the java scripts. I'll admit to using a java script on my contact page to mask my email (works perfectly), but that's it. My goal has always been to provide information. Whizzbangs never made the information more important. I'm not selling anything - I'm giving away research data. Just saying. Susan On 7/20/2018 7:06 PM, Pat Asher wrote: > At 04:25 PM 7/20/2018, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >> Thank you, Pat. What a pity no one mentioned it 6 months ago ... >> Absolute links were advised as being safest!!! > > I don't think that was ever the case. How you write links in your site > depends on your site organization. For example -- > > An include that is inserted into every page on your site, including > subdirectories, will have to use absolute links -- unless you have a > separate "include" to be used in subdirectories. > > Relative links work when they refer to the page on which they are > inserted. If you insert a top level relative link on a page in a > subdirectory, it fails because it can't find the referenced file in the > same directory. > > There is no "safest!!!" > > > Pat A.

I don't understand what is happening. Earlier today, I could view as a visitor all 3 of my computers pages, and then a little while ago, I could visit the index pages in my genealogy and family community pages. But now the same URLs I used earlier lead me to ancestry's loading page. Were all my pages brought back up by accident and then taken back down again? I have not yet asked for them to be put back online, and thought maybe all the complaints were resulting in them slowly working on all sites. I am also not receiving the password reset email, has their computer sending those emails gone on a vacation? My username is ~thecohens. Do the various comments in this thread mean the links to our pages will be different, or was that just a comment for people used to doing things in the file manager? On 7/20/18, Patricia Geary <[email protected]> wrote: > What should they now be? Are the folders "family" "genealogy" "history" > etc. > still available? Please give this booby examples of links (minus html page > name). > > The other url's are not available at this time. Patience while they get all > the sites back online.

Easiest way? Write to [email protected] Tell her Account Type - Rootsweb or Homepages or Freepages Your name ~youraccountname Old Email Address New Email Address If a county site, if someone else had the account before and that [person's name.

http://sites.rootsweb.com/~heidisfamily/ -----Original Message----- From: hutley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 7:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]My Free pages Website Hi list, I have requested that my freepages will be restored. I have my new password and also downloaded Filezilla. I entered my publishing settings, highlighted my index page, right clicked, selected upload. Filezilla completed the task. How do I now access my index page at Rootsweb?

Hi list, I have requested that my freepages will be restored. I have my new password and also downloaded Filezilla. I entered my publishing settings, highlighted my index page, right clicked, selected upload. Filezilla completed the task. How do I now access my index page at Rootsweb? Thanks for your help, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: [email protected] URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily

Nancy, I think RW is grappling with that reality, now. I sent in a list of most of the categories / directories. They will figure t out. (I might be wrong but I don't think techs realized they had so many site types.) Judy

Caroline, Actually, an absolute link is like walking out the front door of your house, walking across the street, going around the block, crossing the street again, and going in the back door to your house.... just to go into your dining room after exiting your kitchen.. Absolute links take "the long way home". Relative links are kind of like real relatives in your house-- they go from one room to another without fanfare, and jump on your furniture with their shoes on. LOL judy

At 04:25 PM 7/20/2018, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >Thank you, Pat. What a pity no one mentioned it 6 months ago ... >Absolute links were advised as being safest!!! I don't think that was ever the case. How you write links in your site depends on your site organization. For example -- An include that is inserted into every page on your site, including subdirectories, will have to use absolute links -- unless you have a separate "include" to be used in subdirectories. Relative links work when they refer to the page on which they are inserted. If you insert a top level relative link on a page in a subdirectory, it fails because it can't find the referenced file in the same directory. There is no "safest!!!" Pat A.

IMO, stick with Frontpage (Fp) and Filezilla (Fz) for now. Fp is a good editor, and a user can learn to use external CSS. Fz is a great FTP, once a user learns what Fz can do. My best advice with Fz is to make a folder and file on your PC, and practice sending it online via Fz. I'm leaning toward moving to Expressions Web, but only after I finish upgrading my last website.

Thank you, Pat G. I followed your instructions, checked and rechecked, and the connection still times out. Perhaps my new password hasn't really been created? I'll try later, and see if it works. Susan Johnston > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:49:10 -0400 > From: "Patricia Geary"<[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: FTP settings and missing subdirectories > To: "'Freepages Web Sites'"<[email protected]> > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Written Tutorial > http://sites.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/publishing-your-sites.html > > Video Tutorial > https://www.ancestry.com/academy/course/connect-rootsweb-filezilla > > Answer to your first question on hold for now. > > Pat G > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan G. Johnston [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 10:23 AM > To:[email protected] > Subject: [FreeHelp]FTP settings and missing subdirectories > > My site is partially up (Thank you!), but I have two questions/problems: > > (1) I had pages in two (sub)directories: Education and Computers. I cannot > find those pages. Are these subdirectories being restored? > > (2) I've changed my password (supposedly successfully), but I can't connect > to my site. What are the current FTP settings?

Assuming the FTPing will go ok, how do we separate uploads to our genealogy, history, family, school_alumni, religion, etc communities? Thanks! Nancy from a Kansas iPhone

You can no longer use EW to publish to the RootsWeb servers. Pat -----Original Message----- From: hutley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 5:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Expression Web Hi List, Has anybody tried to upload with Expression Web? I tried it with the new instructions and I had an error message “Timed Out”. I do not understand the timed out since I have DSL. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

I decided to continue with EW since it does what I want it to do with the exception of publishing to RootsWeb. I keep it open and once I update a page, I use Filezilla to publish it. Just make sure if you add images, that you publish them too. I am not sure any of the older web editors are going to work with RootsWeb. I have no trouble at all publishing to Bluehost where all of the other sites I work on are located. I also have Dreamweaver but it is CS6 and no way am I going to upgrade. Pat -----Original Message----- From: genealzube--- via FREEPAGES-HELP [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 5:45 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 77 I too have always used FrontPage. I had been thinking about upgrading to something else even before the site went down. Now that I can't use it to ftp, I'm totally not sure what to use. I don't want to spend a lot of money, preferably none, but a lot of the site development stuff I see online includes hosting which I don't need - and many are online development, not local. I want something stand-alone where I can keep the website on my computer and work on it when I am riding in the car or somewhere with no internet. And, if possible, something I could upload directly, not have to get some other ftp program, although from the messages I've seen that doesn't seem like it's much of a possibility. I am fairly computer literate, so it doesn't have to be super simple and totally WYSIWYG, but don't want to spend lots of time coding and cleaning things up in the background. What kinds of software do others use and recommend? Or does someone know of a website that does a comparison so I could decide what I could live with and what I'd have to put up with?

I too have always used FrontPage. I had been thinking about upgrading to something else even before the site went down. Now that I can't use it to ftp, I'm totally not sure what to use. I don't want to spend a lot of money, preferably none, but a lot of the site development stuff I see online includes hosting which I don't need - and many are online development, not local. I want something stand-alone where I can keep the website on my computer and work on it when I am riding in the car or somewhere with no internet. And, if possible, something I could upload directly, not have to get some other ftp program, although from the messages I've seen that doesn't seem like it's much of a possibility. I am fairly computer literate, so it doesn't have to be super simple and totally WYSIWYG, but don't want to spend lots of time coding and cleaning things up in the background. What kinds of software do others use and recommend? Or does someone know of a website that does a comparison so I could decide what I could live with and what I'd have to put up with? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 17:59:46 -0700 From: David C Abernathy <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: FTP access to my RootsWeb sites To: 'Freepages Web Sites' <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would look at starting in find a replacement for Front Page, it has NOT been support in many years and I am surprised that sites like Rootsweb are still provide the needed files on the servers. By going to something else you will get away from the Microsoft code bloat, which is also built into the current office products. If you have copies of your Rootsweb files locally (which you should) you could start using a different webpage program now, so when your sites is on line you can replace it with the new code. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers

What if one does not remember the email address used when the account was set up years ago? How can one change the email address associated with freepages account? J. McVicker

Judy, You could add:- #content a:hover { background: transparent; color: #505BA4; text-decoration: underline; font-size:100%; |transform:scale(1.25);|  } |.. and you could also play with scaling the text by width and height, e.g. transform(1.25, 1.5) Try it and play with the values. Barry | On 20/07/2018 19:51, JFlorian wrote: > <....style fprolloverstyle>A:hover {color: red; font-weight: bold} > </style> > > That made a hovered link get a bit bigger as if set in its own rectangular > 'box', in red and bold. > > Barry had this. I added the 125% > > #content a:hover { > background: transparent; > color: #505BA4; > text-decoration: underline; > font-size:125%; > } > > > So how do I add the rest? > > What else can be used instead of underline? > > Thank you. > >

Hi List, Has anybody tried to upload with Expression Web? I tried it with the new instructions and I had an error message “Timed Out”. I do not understand the timed out since I have DSL. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: [email protected] URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily

What should they now be? Are the folders "family" "genealogy" "history" etc. still available? Please give this booby examples of links (minus html page name). The other url's are not available at this time. Patience while they get all the sites back online. Pat

Thanks for giving me hope, Judy; crossing my fingers. Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <[email protected]> To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Cc: TilburyCM <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 20, 2018 2:39 am Subject: Re: [FreeHelp]Freepages site address Should have checked further before posting: I can see the front page of my website, but if I try to go to other pages it takes me tohttps://www.ancestry.com/. Don't tell me we have to change all the links - I just don't have enough hair left to tear out ... and probably not enough remaining years either. ----------------------- I got that page before Ann restored my site. They put up 1st pages for everyone. You have to request they restore the site... and wait for them to restore. Once restored, you should be able to click through your site.

Thank you, Pat. What a pity no one mentioned it 6 months ago ... Absolute links were advised as being safest!!! What should they now be? Are the folders "family" "genealogy" "history" etc. still available? Please give this booby examples of links (minus html page name). Ah well, I didn't really want to sit in the sun for the rest of the summer, enjoying the gentle breeze, the blue sky, glorious sun and fluffy clouds, bird-song, gently waving branches and rustling leaves, the quietly flowing river with its ducks, water-rats ... Back to the grindstone. Caroline ____ Eventually, perhaps: "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Geary <[email protected]> To: 'Freepages Web Sites' <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 20, 2018 1:27 am Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Freepages site address If you used relative links (just the path to the pages) your pages should adjust. If you used absolute links (the full url) yes you will need to change all of the links. Use search andreplace to make the job easier. Pat -----Original Message----- From: TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:44 PM To: [email protected] Cc: TilburyCM <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Freepages site address Should have checked further before posting: I can see the front page of my website, but if I try to go to other pages it takes me to https://www.ancestry.com/. Don't tell me we have to change all the links - I just don't have enough hair left to tear out ... and probably not enough remaining years either. Caroline _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community