Many times when a correction or change is uploaded to a site and you access it right away you may see no change on the website. This is because the browser is using a cached copy of the site rather than the new content. Click on reload and the new content will come up right away. >To: "Ann (Jobe) Brown" <[email protected]>, Patricia Geary > <[email protected]>, 'Freepages Web Sites' > <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed; > reply-type=response > > > >Just a word of 'patience' for those using filezilla. Right away it is >showing the page is updated/uploaded --but in fact it is taking anywhere >from 30 minutes to 1 1/2 hours for it to actually show up when you go to >your site. This was discouraging for me, a newcomer, who was just learning >how to use it --until I went back and checked an hour later and the file >showed the corrections that I had made when at 45 minutes; it still hadn't >showed - even though it showed right away that the file was uploaded. > >With the 'freepages' just now getting back up --it does appear that their >servers are being tested/ well-used with many trying to update at the same >time. > >Ann (Jobe) Brown

Super, thank you so much, Anne! I knew I had originally created the site with the Compuserve email address but was sure I had changed it as I haven't been able to access my Compuserve mail for well over a year and had been updating my site regularly. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Anne Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: > Karla, > > That was under an old compuserve address. It was obviously yours, so I > added your gmail address. Give it another try. > > Anne > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Karla Huebner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Trying this again... > > > > My site is back up, but I've requested to get a new password three times > > now over the past couple of days and there is no response. And no, it is > > not in my spam. > > > > The site is at http://sites.rootsweb.com/~huebnerlamb/ > > > > I have followed the instructions, so not sure why I'm not getting a > > password reset when others are. > > > > Karla Huebner > > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Just a word of 'patience' for those using filezilla. Right away it is showing the page is updated/uploaded --but in fact it is taking anywhere from 30 minutes to 1 1/2 hours for it to actually show up when you go to your site. This was discouraging for me, a newcomer, who was just learning how to use it --until I went back and checked an hour later and the file showed the corrections that I had made when at 45 minutes; it still hadn't showed - even though it showed right away that the file was uploaded. With the 'freepages' just now getting back up --it does appear that their servers are being tested/ well-used with many trying to update at the same time. Ann (Jobe) Brown

The link is only good for 4 hours. Try it again. Anne On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:08 AM, Wayne Setzer <[email protected]> wrote: > Have been trying to reset my rootsweb password with the link I get in a > return email after going to this website Go to: > https://useraccount.rootsweb.com/websites/requestChangePassword > > I get an return email with a change password for account : wlsetzer but > the link will not connect to the server. Says unavailable. Have tried on > different browsers and different pc.s. > Wayne > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Karla, That was under an old compuserve address. It was obviously yours, so I added your gmail address. Give it another try. Anne On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Karla Huebner <[email protected]> wrote: > Trying this again... > > My site is back up, but I've requested to get a new password three times > now over the past couple of days and there is no response. And no, it is > not in my spam. > > The site is at http://sites.rootsweb.com/~huebnerlamb/ > > I have followed the instructions, so not sure why I'm not getting a > password reset when others are. > > Karla Huebner > calypsospots AT gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Trying this again... My site is back up, but I've requested to get a new password three times now over the past couple of days and there is no response. And no, it is not in my spam. The site is at http://sites.rootsweb.com/~huebnerlamb/ I have followed the instructions, so not sure why I'm not getting a password reset when others are. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com

Depends what kind of site you are doing. If your site is based on your family tree, John Cardinal's GedSite will make a nice site (that you design using the program's tools) from your gedcom file. (Disclaimer: I use his original SecondSite program but have no financial interest in his programs.) GedSite isn't free, but it's not expensive either. If your site is something more like a county site or other type of genealogy site, then other people will have good suggestions for that. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 5:45 PM, genealzube--- via FREEPAGES-HELP < [email protected]> wrote: > > I too have always used FrontPage. I had been thinking about upgrading to > something else even before the site went down. > > Now that I can't use it to ftp, I'm totally not sure what to use. I don't > want to spend a lot of money, preferably none, but a lot of the site > development stuff I see online includes hosting which I don't need - and > many are online development, not local. I want something stand-alone where > I can keep the website on my computer and work on it when I am riding in > the > car or somewhere with no internet. And, if possible, something I could > upload directly, not have to get some other ftp program, although from the > messages I've seen that doesn't seem like it's much of a possibility. > > I am fairly computer literate, so it doesn't have to be super simple and > totally WYSIWYG, but don't want to spend lots of time coding and cleaning > things up in the background. > > What kinds of software do others use and recommend? Or does someone know > of a website that does a comparison so I could decide what I could live > with > and what I'd have to put up with? > >

> > > ​D​ > ate: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:06:38 -0400 > From: JFlorian <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp] > ​​ > External CSS - Tables of different lengths, widths, > etc. > To: Barry Carlson <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > Pat Geary <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Help (when you can). > > I don't want 35 different table mark-ups (besides "table1" for the main > display of backgrounds, etc.) > > In Frontpage, I have simple tables. Often, skinny tables, 3 columns. But > when attached to the css, a skinny table goes full width. I don't know > which "table#" to pick from the css.... or how to write yet another > "table#" to cover each of these. > > Isn't there a standard for > skinny tables? > wide tables with narrow rows height and width like where a cell might only > hold "1234"? > skinny tables with 5 skinny columns, but one column that has long text? > > and so on and so on..... > > Under the table, defeated! Where's the Jack Daniels.... > > ------------------------------ > > ​I'm not Barry :-), but here's an example of what I use when I don't want a table to take up the full screen width. I like the % idea because it does not assume a specific screen width in pixels. <table style="margin:auto; width:70%;">​ ​A purist would of course create a class in a css file for that instead of putting the style into the html. And that's certainly OK, but often I like it better this way so that I don't have to go look in the css file to see what the class does when I've perhaps named it poorly or just forgotten exactly what it contains.​ Unlike some folks, I don't see css as the perfect solution to everything! You can use the same idea to vary the width of columns in a table by coding: <td class="xlarge center" style="width:33%"> for example. And you only need to include that in the td's of the first tr in the table. BTW, the xlarge and center classes do just what you would imagine. Hope that helps. -- Charlie Carothers http://www.freebiblecommentary.org <http://freebiblecommentary.org>

Tracy, You are correct regarding sites.rootsweb.com accepting both http and https connections, but it would be better if rootsweb added the following to their server .htaccess file:_ <IfModule mod_rewrite.c> RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !=on RewriteRule ^ https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301] </IfModule> ... which will turn every http connection to a secure https one. Hopefully that is done, and the points you have raised will be covered. Barry On 21/07/2018 14:21, Tracy garrison wrote: > If you have your site restored think about a secure site. Https > > > > I noticed that everyone is using http://sites.rootsweb.com/~_____ > > > > But browsers are flagging sites that start with http: instead of https. > Your rootsweb site will work as https://sites.rootsweb.com/~____ as well. > But, and this is a big BUT, you will need to make sure every link is also > https. If a link Is http your site will be flagged as mixed (on chrome you > will see a little circle with an I before the URL as a warning) and will be > shown to the world as an insecure site. Google chrome already is branding > all sites with http: or mixed as being insecure. I went through mine in a > couple hours and changed everything to be https: > > > > I know it is a pain but soon people will not want to use a site that is not > secure because hackers can hijack pictures on http and link them to their > own sites. > > > > Tracy > > > > > > >

Help (when you can). I don't want 35 different table mark-ups (besides "table1" for the main display of backgrounds, etc.) In Frontpage, I have simple tables. Often, skinny tables, 3 columns. But when attached to the css, a skinny table goes full width. I don't know which "table#" to pick from the css.... or how to write yet another "table#" to cover each of these. Isn't there a standard for skinny tables? wide tables with narrow rows height and width like where a cell might only hold "1234"? skinny tables with 5 skinny columns, but one column that has long text? and so on and so on..... Under the table, defeated! Where's the Jack Daniels....

THIS IS HOW i DO A FAVICON: <link rel="icon" href="pictures/favicon.png" type="image/x-icon"> On 07/20/2018 09:49 PM, Susan W Pieroth wrote: > I use a couple of variations (I'm not sure how that happened, but I'm > not fixing what ain't broke). One is <link href="images/favicon.ico" > rel="shortcut icon"> on https://sites.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ > > Susan > > > On 7/20/2018 10:27 PM, JFlorian wrote: >> Could experts think about what folks will need to do to get fav icons to >> work? >> <....link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href=" >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/favicon.ico"> >> >> I don't even know how it was set up.  Pout. >> >> >> Gripe time::: >> I know Ancestry had a lot to consider, but I wish the techs had not >> stuck >> everything in a big pot labeled "sites" when RW had so many different >> types >> of websites!   They could have brought a small group of webmasters >> together >> and asked us for input.   Sigh.  Okay, done griping.  (at least out >> loud) > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > -- "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." Mark Twain

I use a couple of variations (I'm not sure how that happened, but I'm not fixing what ain't broke). One is <link href="images/favicon.ico" rel="shortcut icon"> on https://sites.rootsweb.com/~palackaw/ Susan On 7/20/2018 10:27 PM, JFlorian wrote: > Could experts think about what folks will need to do to get fav icons to > work? > <....link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href=" > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/favicon.ico"> > > I don't even know how it was set up. Pout. > > > Gripe time::: > I know Ancestry had a lot to consider, but I wish the techs had not stuck > everything in a big pot labeled "sites" when RW had so many different types > of websites! They could have brought a small group of webmasters together > and asked us for input. Sigh. Okay, done griping. (at least out loud)

Could experts think about what folks will need to do to get fav icons to work? <....link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href=" http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/favicon.ico"> I don't even know how it was set up. Pout. Gripe time::: I know Ancestry had a lot to consider, but I wish the techs had not stuck everything in a big pot labeled "sites" when RW had so many different types of websites! They could have brought a small group of webmasters together and asked us for input. Sigh. Okay, done griping. (at least out loud)

If you have your site restored think about a secure site. Https I noticed that everyone is using http://sites.rootsweb.com/~_____ But browsers are flagging sites that start with http: instead of https. Your rootsweb site will work as https://sites.rootsweb.com/~____ as well. But, and this is a big BUT, you will need to make sure every link is also https. If a link Is http your site will be flagged as mixed (on chrome you will see a little circle with an I before the URL as a warning) and will be shown to the world as an insecure site. Google chrome already is branding all sites with http: or mixed as being insecure. I went through mine in a couple hours and changed everything to be https: I know it is a pain but soon people will not want to use a site that is not secure because hackers can hijack pictures on http and link them to their own sites. Tracy

Well, m'dear, that's one way of putting it - not as I would myself. And I won't be mean enough to boot up the old PC and copy off the "advice" given many years ago ... (doesn't time just fly). Would you believe that amongst all the other occupations I've had, I was once even a programmer? Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <[email protected]> To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Cc: TilburyCM <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 21, 2018 1:12 am Subject: Re: [FreeHelp]Re: Freepages site address Caroline, Actually, an absolute link is like walking out the front door of your house, walking across the street, going around the block, crossing the street again, and going in the back door to your house.... just to go into your dining room after exiting your kitchen.. Absolute links take "the long way home". Relative links are kind of like real relatives in your house-- they go from one room to another without fanfare, and jump on your furniture with their shoes on. LOL judy

You have to request it.

Yes, all of this is confusing--- deep breath! Be patient! If you did not request your site, it is not back online. Google picked up the index pages from RW's new list.... all it is is one page. Again, you have to use the form to request the whole site. Don't worry-- there's lots of time to do this. Lots of people are in line. Do you have the link to the new blog? Gives all the info http://rootsweb.blog/2018/07/19/getting-into-the-new-version-of-your-hosted-web-site/

My pages are pretty simple, so I opted to just learn minimal basic html and use a plain simple text editor to create and edit my pages. I started out doing this on a PDA, and the only thing resembling WYSIWYG was very difficult for me to use, I found I preferred just learning how to use basic <p> and <blockquote> and header tags. I then installed htmltidy on my local system, the html syntax checker, and if I messed anything up, it would tell me as well as create what it considered a corrected version of the page. As years went on, I learned to do things a little fancier, using tables, but I honestly cannot imagine writing webpages with an editor that took over and made decisions for me. And our wonderful list member Barry helped write a container for me, to help with various page boundary issues. But I have an easier time knowing where my files are as I do almost everything on the command line. I know that people using graphical interfaces (which is the norm) often have a hard time finding files. So for me, I just change to the directory where I keep my rootsweb files, and start my ftp client there. A command line one, no dragging and dropping, I just type what I want to do, like "put" or "get" and the file name.

Patricia, Want to thank you for being so patient and understanding to this 'older lady' who is having to learn two completely new programs with a lot of links to change on a very extensive website. Did make some progress on the index page - at least figured out how to use NotePadTab and how to upload with filezilla. With the index page, I'm going through it very slowly and got about a third of the way . Now do have a few of the pics back and at least some of the links working - though the links on the pages they point to still have to be changed. But at least I now have a bit of confidence and reassurance that I do know a bit of what I'm doing. In the next few days will continue with this page until I have all the pics up and links that actually work or have them removed. AT least I now have an idea what they actually should look like and to me - that is true progress Thank you again. http://sites.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/ Ann (Jobe) Brown

Will my site be restored? ~rumykin4 [email protected] Ellen Allen