Excellent resource https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35769/?hl=en Pat G -----Original Message----- From: Curt Milton via FREEPAGES-HELP [mailto:freepages-help@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:09 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Cc: Curt Milton <wb8yyy@yahoo.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Content to Aid Search Engines Can you provide any guidance on including key words etc, to aid search engines in finding our websites? Is there an HTML command associated with this and what approaches have been found effective.

Can you provide any guidance on including key words etc, to aid search engines in finding our websites?  Is there an HTML command associated with this and what approaches have been found effective.  Thanks for the big effort here.  Curt

I agree they all should be restored. When I started my sites I asked them what would happen to them when I die and was told they would still be in place. I guess we really need a co-owner just in case. I am 75 and a lot of the website owners are older than me, so yes they should all be restored thelma Moye On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 5:27:20 PM EDT, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: Someone certainly could create a webpage at freepages with links to the wayback machine to make it easier to find important old sites. That is how I handled things on my backup site, I made a webpage that linked to all the individual pages from my freepages site, in the Wayback Machine at archive.org.  I knew it would be hard for people to get the long links straight if they were printing or emailing or typing them out. Sites like this should be restored even thought the creater is deceased, but I guess they want a live person to take part in the restoration.  Pretty crumby. They restored all the genweb sites they could identify, these others that were not genweb but basic genealogy resources should be grandfathered in as if that was the case with them as well. Is Ann hearing that? On 8/12/18, Kabe via FREEPAGES-HELP <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Better? Go back for 'prior > captures'  https://web.archive.org/web/20071212214604/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com:80/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm > https://web.archive.org/web/20071212214604/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com:80/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm > > Prolly can't restore a deceased person's FP's, but many FP's are still > available in these archives.  Perhaps the new sites.rootsweb will allow for > these links?  If not, shame on them.Kathie B _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 10:23 AM 8/12/2018, Neil Boyer wrote: >Okay, I'm trying again. I'm skittish about moving or >double-clicking anything, since I don't want to mess it up. > >Here's what I have on the filezilla screen: > >Left side: Local Site: 13 files and 32 directories > >(By the way, while I'm typing this, I get "network error. Software >caused connection abort." But both sides, local site and remote >site are still there, showing files and directories.) > >Right side: 4 files and 8 directories, including index.html and >neil.html. The last two, under Filetype, say Firefox. > >So, what should I do to proceed? Does any of this indicate that >something is wrong? What should I click on and what should I avoid? Neil, to upload or download files, the left and right hand panes must match. You don't want to upload walthamCems.html to the boyer military subdirectory or visa versa. We (and I mean all the people on the list who have tried to help) have explained to you everything you need to do to upload your updated files to the server, or to download files from the server to your computer so you can update them for future uploading. At this point, you are going to have to test the waters yourself, and then report back to us whatever errors you may have encountered. The members of this list are a wonderful resource, but none of us are there, looking over your shoulder and able to correct you. You have to do it yourself, then tell us what error message you receive. Hopefully, if you review everything you have been told, you will be able to update your site without any problems at all. Pat Asher List Admin

Someone certainly could create a webpage at freepages with links to the wayback machine to make it easier to find important old sites. That is how I handled things on my backup site, I made a webpage that linked to all the individual pages from my freepages site, in the Wayback Machine at archive.org. I knew it would be hard for people to get the long links straight if they were printing or emailing or typing them out. Sites like this should be restored even thought the creater is deceased, but I guess they want a live person to take part in the restoration. Pretty crumby. They restored all the genweb sites they could identify, these others that were not genweb but basic genealogy resources should be grandfathered in as if that was the case with them as well. Is Ann hearing that? On 8/12/18, Kabe via FREEPAGES-HELP <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Better? Go back for 'prior > captures' https://web.archive.org/web/20071212214604/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com:80/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm > https://web.archive.org/web/20071212214604/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com:80/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm > > Prolly can't restore a deceased person's FP's, but many FP's are still > available in these archives. Perhaps the new sites.rootsweb will allow for > these links? If not, shame on them.Kathie B

At 04:49 PM 8/12/2018, JFlorian wrote: >Pat A, > >Thank you. I got it to work at column2a / b. It will help on deeds with > 2 cols of signatures. > >I'll test it with a wide / long table in which the cells might only be a >year in width.. Glad you at least see light at the end of that long tunnel labeled CSS. CSS is a marvelous addition to HTML, but it can also drive you nuts at times. Pat A.

Pat A, Thank you. I got it to work at column2a / b. It will help on deeds with 2 cols of signatures. I'll test it with a wide / long table in which the cells might only be a year in width..

Talk to Anna at Rootsweb.blog about the email. That ddress is always at the bottom of these emails Bryan On 13-Aug-18 6:59:35 AM, Paul Sheats <paul.sheats@q.com> wrote: My email was probably different when I first set up my freepages account. Will they still restore my site if my email is different now? My site name was ~sheetsdna ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul" To: "freepages-help" Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 12:34:13 PM Subject: Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 173 Yes, my site was in the genealogy_html subdirectory. I have been checking every few days, but I'm still getting the "forbidden" message. I asked because they said it could take up to 4 weeks, and it's been 5 weeks. I'm wondering if I need to request it to be restored (again), or just be patient :) Thanks. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lone, you should be able to edit or set up a new account using the new settings for your Rootsweb account. See http://sites.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/publishing-your-sites.html Pat G. I have restored my account and deleted all old versions of fileZila. I’ve downloaded the new version, but my old connection via FTP are still showing and grayed our meaning I can’t change them. How can we change these settings? I am using an iMac Thanks for your continual assistance for an old geezer!

My email was probably different when I first set up my freepages account. Will they still restore my site if my email is different now? My site name was ~sheetsdna ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul" <paul.sheats@q.com> To: "freepages-help" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 12:34:13 PM Subject: Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 173 Yes, my site was in the genealogy_html subdirectory. I have been checking every few days, but I'm still getting the "forbidden" message. I asked because they said it could take up to 4 weeks, and it's been 5 weeks. I'm wondering if I need to request it to be restored (again), or just be patient :) Thanks.

I have restored my account and deleted all old versions of fileZila. I’ve downloaded the new version, but my old connection via FTP are still showing and grayed our meaning I can’t change them. How can we change these settings? I am using an iMac Thanks for your continual assistance for an old geezer! Lon Mason

Yes, my site was in the genealogy_html subdirectory. I have been checking every few days, but I'm still getting the "forbidden" message. I asked because they said it could take up to 4 weeks, and it's been 5 weeks. I'm wondering if I need to request it to be restored (again), or just be patient :) Thanks. Paul, I believe they still are only restoring sites that were in the genealogy_html subdirectory, is that where you published your site, or was it all in a different location or community? The others are supposed to be available eventually, has anyone seen a different community's content come up yet - for example, the one for family? If your site was in the genealogy_html directory, the url to it now would be: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~YOURSITEID

I wanted 2 small pics in a page header, without space between them, floated left. Text centered to the right. It looks okay at 1px. But I still need the 5px on regular floats. So will this work in the Ext CSS? (First setis Barry's. 2nd set is what I copied & added, and changed to 1px on left float #2.) /* ==================== Image Float Right or Left ====================== */ .imgrgt { /* image to right of text; padding by trial */ float: right; padding: 2px; padding-right: 5px; } .imglft { /* image to left of text */ float: left; padding: 2px; margin-right: 5px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px; } .text_line { clear: both; margin-bottom: 2px; } /* ==================== Image Float Right or Left ====================== */ .imgrgt2 { /* image to right of text; padding by trial */ float: right; padding: 2px; padding-right: 5px; } .imglft2 { /* image to left of text */ float: left; padding: 2px; margin-right: 5px; padding-left: 1px; padding-right: 1px; } .text_line { clear: both; margin-bottom: 2px; }

Experiment and see what looks nice to you. I want enough room between the photo and text so that the text is not up against the edge of the photo. 1px seems like very little space. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:cageycat@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 12:51 AM To: LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>; LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]External CSS - Float img padding R & L Is there any reason the padding on img float must be 5px? Will I cause problems if I change it to 1px?

Not sure I understand what you are asking ... Your section blocks (divs) will appear next to each other, or below each other, depending on the screen size of the viewing device. If your "sets" represent two blocks of content that belong together (either side by side or directly above and below), then you will have to use column2a and column2b for the respective halves of each "set". Otherwise you will have two long content blocks and your halves will not necessarily align. I don't see an empty line in your example, so don't know what you mean. Pat A. At 01:25 AM 8/12/2018, JFlorian wrote: >One more thing.... ><div class="column2a"> >Your left hand column text goes here. ></div> ><div class="column2b"> >Your right hand column text goes here. ></div> > >Would I just keep repeating within divs ><div class="column2a"> ><div class="column2b"> > >And, can I leave 1 line empty like below? > >For example, my next set is: >Emma Hleis >J. B. Hlein >D. J. Strain >Ella E. Strain >Samuel Amspoker Margaret Porter >W. W. Porter >Irene Amspoker Strain >Thomas R. Strain >Elizabeth C. A. Wright >Jacob X Wright >The above ____ (rest unreadable)

At 01:03 AM 8/12/2018, JFlorian wrote: >Are there any limits on number of columns and rows? Theoretically, you could have as many columns as you wish. In practice, you'll probably want to limit the number of columns according to content and the screen size that you believe most of your site visitors will be using to view your page. For example, if you chose to use 5 columns, each would have a width of 20% of any container such as a content #wrapper, and including any padding, margins, and borders). If your visitor's display is 1920 pixels wide, and you add 10px padding to the content, and you place those 5 columns within a content #wrapper of 80%, then the content in each column would be roughly 18 to 24 characters wide depending on the font size you have specified. Pat A.

Okay, I'm trying again. I'm skittish about moving or double-clicking anything, since I don't want to mess it up. Here's what I have on the filezilla screen: Left side: Local Site: 13 files and 32 directories (By the way, while I'm typing this, I get "network error. Software caused connection abort." But both sides, local site and remote site are still there, showing files and directories.) Right side: 4 files and 8 directories, including index.html and neil.html. The last two, under Filetype, say Firefox. So, what should I do to proceed? Does any of this indicate that something is wrong? What should I click on and what should I avoid? -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:30 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 171 Send FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list submissions to freepages-help@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at freepages-help-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of FREEPAGES-HELP digest..." When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Re: Still need more help (Charles Carothers) 2. Re: Still need more help (Pat Asher) 3. HTTPS / SSL (Wayne Setzer) 4. Request to Restore Site of a Deceased Owner (Dave Hein) 5. Re: HTTPS / SSL (JFlorian) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 10:22:28 -0500 From: Charles Carothers <csquared71@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Still need more help To: Freepages Help <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAGmaTgz4NAT80bEdjvkgQbhHLGwAuA1bUpQU5Sa-gg14+F=kAA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Neil, I'm unsure from your description what you double-clicked on. You may or may not have done a download, which you may or may not have wanted to do. A few suggestions if I may. 1) Always keep a relatively current copy of your entire site on something other than your local hard drive. A flash drive is my external media of choice. 2) Never double-click on *anything* in Filezilla. Use right-click followed by Upload or Download or whatever. That way you will always know exactly what is going to happen. Congratulations on your progress! -- Charlie Carothers http://www.freebiblecommentary.org <http://freebiblecommentary.org> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:56:50 -0400 From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Still need more help To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <201808112057.w7BKuZIJ027852@mx0a-002f8e01.pphosted.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:38 PM 8/10/2018, Neil Boyer wrote: >I think I'm making good progress with the good help of many >people. I am now at the stage where I on the right side of the >Filezilla screen. This shows: >/boyerlinks/genealogy_html/boyer_easton >Inside are 20 files and one directory. I second Charlie's congratulations on the progress you have made. Remember the difference between download and upload. download = you are copying files from the server to your computer. upload = you are copying files from your computer to the server (so they will be displayed on line.) >On the top of the Filezilla log on the left side, part way down it >first said Connected to sitesuser.rootsweb.com >I tried double clicking on site line near the bottom and it said >Starting download of (boyerlinks, etc.) >Then it said Skipping download of the same >Then File transfer skipped >Then Disconnected from server >Then network error: software caused connection abort > >So, wait: Did I want a download? >I now have all my files listed in both places: Local Site on the >left, Remote site on the right, but now nothing is happening. Advice needed: >Did I skip some vital step? Should I double-click the files on the >right to download them? Or should I now Upload the files on the >left side? I'm confused about there I am. Those of us on the list can't answer your question. Are there files on the server that you don't have on your computer? You will need to download them so you have archived copies. Have you updated files on your computer that you need to copy to the server so your most recent updates will be displayed on line? Then you will need o upload those files. Whether you need to download or upload a particular file, make sure that you are looking at the same (sub) directory in both the local and remote sides in Filezilla, so your files are copied to the place you want them to be. Pat A. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 21:47:46 +0000 From: Wayne Setzer <wsetzer@hotmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]HTTPS / SSL To: "freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CY1PR10MB05541014D32D100DE5490534B73B0@CY1PR10MB0554.namp rd10.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" HTTPS / SSL Thanks to Rootsweb for starting to include SSL encryption on our web sites. Several things still need to be included to complete the full installation of SSL encryption. First is to automatically switch URL entries such as http://sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid<http://sites.rootsweb.com/%7Ewebsiteid>, sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid, to https://sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid<https://sites.rootsweb.com/%7Ewebsiteid> when entered as a URL in the web browser. For now unless you enter the https:// when you enter the URL to view your website the web browsers are showing the websites as UNSECURE. Next I noticed that the https:// is NOT being carried forward to sub-directories. Each of my different family pages are in a sub-directory under my main ~websiteid directory therefore these sub-directories are being shown as UNSECUREs. I’m sure both of these are possible as I manage several other web sites on different hosting services and they both work as suggested above. Still not able to access my military web site under military_html sub-directory but the last I remember was that this would come later. Again I do appreciate Rootsweb getting my genealogy web site back on line. Other then the SSL encryption items above my ~wlsetzer web site is back on line and updated. Wayne https://sites.rootsweb.com/~wlsetzer/<https://sites.rootsweb.com/%7Ewlsetzer/> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 00:59:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave Hein <video_compressor@yahoo.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Request to Restore Site of a Deceased Owner To: "freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1437115020.6279432.1534035579493@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am trying to get the freepages ~pick site restored. Tom Pick's site contains data on births and marriages that was collected from microfilms of church records in the Eifel area of Germany. Tom Pick passed away a few years ago, but the data remained at his freepages site until RootsWeb was taken down. Before RootsWeb was taken down this site was used extensively by genealogist studying the Eifel area. I have an ~eifel site that was restored, and it contains a few links to other Eifel sites. However, the bulk of the ~eifel site is a name index into Tom Pick's ~pick site. I requested that Tom's site be restored, and I explained in my request that the owner is no longer living and that the site contains information used by many researchers. The site has not been restored, and I have not receive an email from RootsWeb acknowledging that they received my request, nor have I received an email indicating whether my request has been rejected. I ask that RootsWeb please restore this site. A couple of years before Tom Pick passed away he sent me a letter expressing his concern that his data might disappear after he dies. Please don't allow that to happen. Thanks,Dave Hein ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 22:30:19 -0400 From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: HTTPS / SSL To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAE5hz-BrSiGXey=hh6xvSAUERLkrgQGtM0Hp72yFWoja=Jg1LA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Wayne wrote: First is to automatically switch URL entries such as http://sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid<http://sites.rootsweb.com/%7Ewebsiteid <http://sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid>>,sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid, to https://sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid<https://sites. rootsweb.com/%7Ewebsiteid <https://sites.rootsweb.com/~websiteid>> when entered as a URL in the web browser. For now unless you enter the https:// when you enter the URL to view your website the web browsers are showing the websites as UNSECURE. --- Google Chrome has started labeling ALL mixed content websites as unsecure as a new push for all sites to switch to https. Mixed Content means a combination of http and https. From research I did on this last month, it is not as horrid as they are making it sound. It is not truly unsafe. It only means our sites have http pages, while the host has made top level into https (e.g. www.rootsweb.com). ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer -To contact the freepages-help list administrator, send an email to freepages-help-admin@rootsweb.com. -To post a message to the freepages-help mailing list, send an email to freepages-help@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to freepages-help-leave@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 171 ***********************************************

I use 10px. I think it looks better. On 08/11/2018 11:50 PM, JFlorian wrote: > Is there any reason the padding on img float must be 5px? Will I cause > problems if I change it to 1px? > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." Mark Twain

Try dropping the freepages. genealogy and replacing it with sites.rootsweb. With that it will come up if it is restored and back online. Thelma On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 5:24:00 AM EDT, niall_sanderson@email.com <niall_sanderson@email.com> wrote: Does anyone know when this very useful site will be back and in what form? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm Is Hugh Wallis still active? _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Better? Go back for 'prior captures'  https://web.archive.org/web/20071212214604/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com:80/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20071212214604/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com:80/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm Prolly can't restore a deceased person's FP's, but many FP's are still available in these archives.  Perhaps the new sites.rootsweb will allow for these links?  If not, shame on them.Kathie B On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 5:44:56 AM EDT, Kabe via FREEPAGES-HELP <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> wrote: If it helps, for Ancestry® | Genealogy, Family Trees & Family History Recordsfound this in Way Back Machine | | |  | Ancestry® | Genealogy, Family Trees & Family History Records Discover your family history and start your family tree. Try free and access billions of genealogy records inclu... | | | http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htmSaved 273 times between October 17, 2002 and January 13, 2018. Summary of freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com · Site Map of freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com Best, Kathie B     On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 5:24:08 AM EDT, niall_sanderson@email.com <niall_sanderson@email.com> wrote:  Does anyone know when this very useful site will be back and in what form? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm Is Hugh Wallis still active?