Good morning My site has been restored and I have new password, I have always used filezilla so when I enter all the new information this is what comes up Error: Server unexpectedly closed network connection Error: Could not connect to server My local directory is in the right hand pane but will not bring up the remote directory, ie genealogy_html So do I need to download a newer version of filezilla? I followed all the instructions more than once so what am I doing wrong? Thank you

I'm using WinSCP and it works well.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/kompozer/ On 08/14/2018 02:06 PM, Sandra Van Erp wrote: > Just tried to pull this up, as well as several sub-pages, in IE and FF. Said it's been "suspended" and not available. Their webmaster informed. Interesting. > > https://www.kompozer.net/ Think I'll stick with NotePad. > Sandra Van ErpMaplewood, MN > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." Mark Twain

Hi Neil, Just a few random thoughts that might be helpful. There may be a way inside Filezilla to launch Kompozer for a file (or with any editor of choice), but I never do it that way. I use the editor to edit and Filezilla to upload. Period. They are two separate software packages and are not related in any way I am aware of. Keeping that concept in mind is important. The left pane in Filezilla represents your local copy of your site directories and files on your local hard drive on your local computer. Left == Local. That's really important too. Always, always, always edit only your local files. If you don't know where they are, but can open them in Kompozer I understand that it will show you where they are. Make a note of that so you will always know where they are. If you can open them with Kompozer, then you are ready to edit them as you desire. If not, find them first. Once you find them, drawing a macro level sketch of your local directory structure is not a bad idea. You could note the entire path to your highest level directory on that same piece of paper - surely wouldn't hurt. At the risk of confusing you further, here is the entire path to the highest level directory where I work most of the time. D:\0ACCStuff\CCDoc\BLITestWebSite\public_html. Please remember that is only an example. Your path will definitely be different!!! It will start with a drive letter, usually C: or D: are the two most likely values I think. The most important thing to note about that path is that public_html is the name of the highest level directory on both my local hard drive and the remote host. Making that so has saved me no end of confusion. File Explorer is a great tool for finding things. I think unfortunately microsoft does not show it on the home screen by default. (Another of their poor decisions.) If it is not visible, click on Start and find it. Right click on it and select Send To Desktop or Pin To Taskbar, whichever is available. (It's been almost 2 years since I did that, and I've forgotten the details.) As I sit here looking at my windows-10 screen, the icon for it is sitting in the taskbar just to the right of the calculator. But your view will almost certainly be different. Then use it to find the file you want to edit. Right click on it and select Open With - Kompozer. When you are done editing the file and want to send it to your site, save it, fire up Filezilla, navigate until you an see the file you just edited in the local pane, make sure the remote/right-hand pane is showing the same directory, right click on the file in the left pane and select Upload. If it asks for permission, allow it. Open your browser and go to your web site. View the page associated with the file you just edited and uploaded. If you are me, see what you did wrong and go back to the edit step to try to correct it. Repeat the entire edit/save/upload/check process until you are happy with the results. Only you are the judge of the suitability of your web site. Others may express differing opinions, but you are The Man as far as your web site is concerned. And isn't that great! At times, I must confess it seems almost magical. :-) And that, in probably too many words, describes my work flow for maintaining the site below my signature. Are there exceptions to many of my statements above? You betcha!!! But from what you've said so far, my perception is that you need to get this basic sequence ingrained. Once you've done that, then you can branch out if you so desire. And above all, "Never ever quit!" (OK, that's the mantra of my favorite baseball team.) But I think it's good advice here too. Best regards, -- Charlie Carothers http://www.freebiblecommentary.org <http://freebiblecommentary.org>

At 04:56 PM 8/14/2018, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >Hello everyone, >copyright law has to be taken into consideration > > Which country's copyright law? The country where the servers are, > the country of the person(s) whose data is listed, or the country > of the webmaster? The country's copyright law under which the hosting service operates, and to whose terms and conditions the author/copyright holder agrees to when they request that the hosting service hosts their submitted content. >If the person is deceased, then publication was prior to their >decease ... and if there were no problems then, how could there be >later, since the law which would continue to apply was that in >application at the time of publication? Hosting services do not normally ask for exclusive publication rights, which in the U.S. must be transferred in writing. So while an author/copyright holder might have given non-exclusive rights to publish to a hosting service, those rights would cease to exist upon the author/copyright holder's decease, since any copyright, if it exists, would transfer under statute. Pat A.

Hello everyone, copyright law has to be taken into consideration Which country's copyright law? The country where the servers are, the country of the person(s) whose data is listed, or the country of the webmaster? If the person is deceased, then publication was prior to their decease ... and if there were no problems then, how could there be later, since the law which would continue to apply was that in application at the time of publication? Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 12:50 am Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: IGI Batch numbers At 05:27 PM 8/12/2018, the cohens wrote: >Someone certainly could create a webpage at freepages with links to >the wayback machine to make it easier to find important old sites. > >That is how I handled things on my backup site, I made a webpage that >linked to all the individual pages from my freepages site, in the >Wayback Machine at archive.org. I knew it would be hard for people to >get the long links straight if they were printing or emailing or >typing them out. > >Sites like this should be restored even thought the creater is >deceased, but I guess they want a live person to take part in the >restoration. Pretty crumby. They restored all the genweb sites they >could identify, these others that were not genweb but basic genealogy >resources should be grandfathered in as if that was the case with them >as well. I can't speak for Anne/Ancestry, but I have to point out that copyright law has to be taken into consideration. If a RW account owner is deceased, who can authorize a restoration of that site?. Obviously Ancestry/RootsWeb can not BECAUSE, the site owner is responsible for privacy and/or copyright violations. So ... you as a subsequent account owner must not only agree to the terms and conditions, but have authorization to address privacy and/or copyright violation claims for the account. This is not a gotcha, but is something done by all hosting sites. If they give YOU access to their servers to upload content, all they can do is tell you what is NOT acceptable content for upload. If you ignore their rules/guidelines then YOU are responsible for objections to the content of your site. As an aside, GenWeb sites, i.e. XXCounty were created by RootsWeb many years ago, were assigned to coordinators recommended by USGW, but the accounts remain the property of RootsWeb.com for assignment as they determine. As a general rule RootsWeb will defer to the State Coordinator when it comes to access by county coordinators. Pat A. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I downloaded from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/kompozer/ Just to try it out and see what it did. I'll stick with EW but needed to see it to try and help someone. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Susan W Pieroth [mailto:pieroth@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:33 PM To: Sandra Van Erp <svanerp@att.net>; Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Kompozer http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ On 8/14/2018 3:06 PM, Sandra Van Erp wrote: > Just tried to pull this up, as well as several sub-pages, in IE and FF. Said it's been "suspended" and not available. Their webmaster informed. Interesting. > > https://www.kompozer.net/ Think I'll stick with NotePad. > Sandra Van ErpMaplewood, MN

https://sourceforge.net/projects/kompozer/ Got it - this download works.

At 03:06 PM 8/14/2018, Sandra Van Erp wrote: >Just tried to pull this up, as well as several >sub-pages, in IE and FF. Said it's been >"suspended" and not available. Their webmaster informed. Interesting. > >https://www.kompozer.net/Â Think I'll stick with NotePad. If you are comfortable writing code by hand in NotePad, good for you! But even though I now write 80 to 90% of my code by hand, there are times when a WYSIWYG editor is helpful. Kompozer is available for download from both SourceForge.net <https://sourceforge.net/projects/kompozer/> and CNet.com <https://download.cnet.com/KompoZer/3000-10247_4-10655200.html> Pat A.

Sorry - I see the download goes to the page that was suspended. On 8/14/2018 3:33 PM, Susan W Pieroth wrote: > http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ > > On 8/14/2018 3:06 PM, Sandra Van Erp wrote: >> Just tried to pull this up, as well as several sub-pages, in IE and >> FF. Said it's been "suspended" and not available. Their webmaster >> informed. Interesting. >> >> https://www.kompozer.net/ Think I'll stick with NotePad. >> Sandra Van ErpMaplewood, MN >

http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ On 8/14/2018 3:06 PM, Sandra Van Erp wrote: > Just tried to pull this up, as well as several sub-pages, in IE and FF. Said it's been "suspended" and not available. Their webmaster informed. Interesting. > > https://www.kompozer.net/ Think I'll stick with NotePad. > Sandra Van ErpMaplewood, MN

Just tried to pull this up, as well as several sub-pages, in IE and FF. Said it's been "suspended" and not available. Their webmaster informed. Interesting. https://www.kompozer.net/ Think I'll stick with NotePad. Sandra Van ErpMaplewood, MN

That's in my copyright META statement and my footer, that people can use for non-commercial purposes.

It does but it will not work with the version that Rootsweb has installed. The only thing that does work is the latest version of Dreamweaver. So I just edit with EW and publish with FileZilla. Although I am so used to publishing with EW, I keep automatically trying to connect with EW. Eventually I will get used to it. If your site has already been restored, remember that that are specific things your pw must have. Pat -----Original Message----- From: J Taylor` [mailto:ancestor.twigs@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:00 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Expression Web I noticed Expression Web 4 has sftp. Has anyone tried to use it? I’m still in a dilemma trying to get a password but would like to be prepared when or if I ever do.

I noticed Expression Web 4 has sftp. Has anyone tried to use it? I’m still in a dilemma trying to get a password but would like to be prepared when or if I ever do. Thanks! Jerry Taylor

I recommend that people use Creative Commons as well. Wikipedia uses it for a lot of their photos. Different people use different requirements. Anne On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > On 08/14/2018 09:45 AM, Karla Huebner wrote: > >> An option for those who are still alive would be to add a statement that >> your work is under some sort of Creative Commons license, or that you >> release copyright, or something like that. Most people don't really want >> to >> release copyright during their lifetimes, but there are a range of >> Creative >> Commons licenses, and you could also state that you release your copyright >> after death--something like that. >> > > I think you may have hit on something. > > I went to the Creative Commons site > > https://creativecommons.org/ > > And did some looking. I found a license that allows others to use whatever > as long as it is not commercial. To my mind that seems like a reasonable > limitation on my work. After all I did all this to allow others to use it > in their own research. > > > -- > "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." > > Mark Twain > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/freepages-help > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

On 08/14/2018 09:45 AM, Karla Huebner wrote: > An option for those who are still alive would be to add a statement that > your work is under some sort of Creative Commons license, or that you > release copyright, or something like that. Most people don't really want to > release copyright during their lifetimes, but there are a range of Creative > Commons licenses, and you could also state that you release your copyright > after death--something like that. I think you may have hit on something. I went to the Creative Commons site https://creativecommons.org/ And did some looking. I found a license that allows others to use whatever as long as it is not commercial. To my mind that seems like a reasonable limitation on my work. After all I did all this to allow others to use it in their own research. -- "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." Mark Twain

I might add that (as many of you know) the facts on our sites are not what falls under copyright, it is our editorial/design/statements/what-have-you that do. In other words, the value that we add to the facts by how we present them. And we have copyright whether or not we register our creations with the Copyright Office. Registration gives authors more recourse in case of infringements, which is not our main concern at the moment. An option for those who are still alive would be to add a statement that your work is under some sort of Creative Commons license, or that you release copyright, or something like that. Most people don't really want to release copyright during their lifetimes, but there are a range of Creative Commons licenses, and you could also state that you release your copyright after death--something like that. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer or an expert on copyright, so I can't provide suitable wording. Someone might want to put this question to Judy Russell, the Legal Genealogist--if her blog has not yet covered this, I'll bet she would be delighted to do a post on the topic. Karla Huebner calypsospots AT gmail.com On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > A couple years ago, realizing my own mortality, I wrote to Rootsweb about > my site(s). I was told that the site would still be there long after my no > longer being able to take care of them [ I will refrain from saying > forever]. Also, I could "will" them to someone by giving them the passwords > if they were interested in maintaining them. There was no mention of any > legal mumbo jumbo. > > I can't speak for anyone but myself but I cannot really "copyright" much > of the material I have posted on any of my sites. The only possible > copyright I might have is in how it is displayed [ the HTML coding I used ]. > > Now, if there is no one to maintain a site any longer about all they can > "copyright" is their coding. There's no money in it. So it would be > entirely doubtful that anyone would care if someone else wished to take > over the site and maintain/add to it. > > >

Neil, I sent you a couple of screenshots off list that I hope will help you locate your Default local directory. Pat G.

NO do not click on the files in the right pane to edit them. You still need to navigate within the left pane to locate your files ON YOUR COMPUTER. Start Filezilla Go to Files > Site Manager Select the Entry for YOUR SITE Click Advanced Tab Default Remote Directory should have /boyerlinks/genealogy_html What do you have for Default Local Directory? This appears to be where your problem lies. Click the Browse button and Navigate to where YOUR site is located on YOUR computer. Do you know where your site is located on YOUR computer. To find out where your site is on your computer if you are not sure, the top bar in Kompozer shows you the location but it is fairly short. If you select File > Save As The top bar of the dialog box should show the path to were your files are. That is where you need to navigate to in Filezilla in the Default local directory. I don't use Kompozer so not sure if it shows the path somewhere else or not. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: Neil Boyer [mailto:naboyer@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:50 AM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Neil A. Boyer ' <naboyer@comcast.net>; 'Johanna Misey Boyer ' <johannaboyer@hotmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 182 - Filezilla Many thanks to Paul for his encouraging note, and to Anne for her advice. I've been on the verge of giving up since it has been very frustrating for me to get Filezilla to work. Recently, Anne posted two URLs that should enable anyone to open a site. For me, they worked! https://www.rootsweb.com/~sitename or https://sites.rootsweb.com/~sitename 1. Thank you Anne Mitchell! (Paul Sheats) Both of those links, with my sitename boyerlinks added, produced my pages, and I could read them, test all of the links, forward the site to others -- almost exactly what I wanted. BUT I cannot use that link to edit my pages, to add or subtract or change anything. For that I need to log on to Filezilla and then go to Kompozer to make the changes. For the past week, I have been unable to log on to Filezilla. But this morning, encouraged by Paul's note, and the Geary Computer Tips, I was able to produce the Filezilla site with side-by-side panes. The right pane contains genealogy_html. I think that will take me to the files I want to edit. This is where I need help. Do I right-click on genealogy, and then open the files I want to change? Or do I go first to Kompozer, where I think I should find the same files, and then open and edit them? I am a little concerned by the advice that I should not double-click files such as those unless I know exactly what will result, and I don't. Or, perhaps a better answer?, should I first drag the genealogy file from the right side to the left (where it does not now appear), and use Kompozer to edit it on the left side? I think you can see that Paul is right, that I need someone who is tech-savvy who can help answer those questions. Anyone who is kibitzing should feel to join in. Thank you all. Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 20:52:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Sheats <paul.sheats@q.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Thank you Anne Mitchell! To: freepages-help <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1920917312.12896522.1534207973313.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Wow, all this time I didn't know my site was available (because of the /home.htm, which I changed to index.htm). Thank you Anne! I was able to change my password and get my FileZilla settings changed and logged in successfully! I went through my pages and updated the links, and uploaded my changed pages, all without a hitch. I'm good to go. Happy camper again. For those still having troubles... Neil... do you have anyone tech savvy that can help you with FileZilla (or whatever FTP tool you are using)? I've been following the conversation, and it seems like you have had some successes, but you need to find where your pages are stored on your hard drive (left pane in FileZilla). Thanks again Anne! Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 13:48:03 -0700 From: Anne Mitchell <annerootsweb@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 173 To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAMnPmEGkCHVzeT55_uigafUBTZJ5-SAgWF88gtxztHZWiHDMTA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Your site is here: http://sites.rootsweb.com/~sheetsdna/home.htm <http://sites.rootsweb.com/~sheetsdna> By the way, you need to move home.htm to index.htm or index.html otherwise when people go to http://sites.rootsweb.com/~sheetsdna they see the forbidden 403 page. Your email is correct. 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