Have you ever used letter-spacing in your headers? It's easy enough to use, e.g. h1 {font-family:tahoma,arial;font-size:1.5em;color:#d10000;letter-spacing:0.3em;text-align:center;} <h1>LOREUM</h1> But when you add an underline to it (text-decoration:underline) the last letter also has extended space under it, in this case 0.3em, and the the underline extends to take up the space. It is only a minor nusiance, but it can be fixed by taking a different approach to how the underline is created. Go to:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/heading-example.html - and the solution is shown, and the heading is now correctly centered. Barry

A continuation of this theme; (this time with the link!) As I mentioned in my last post, the ability of the Internet Explorer browsers to cope with lists is rather variable, and the following page is similar to the last, expect that it uses a jQuery script to make all IE browsers earlier than IE9 and back to and including IE6 do the right thing. http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/indent-example-2.html All the differences are dealt with inside the IE only conditional comments in the head of the page. This means that the W3C browsers and IE9 dont get to see that code, and only those that need it do. Barry

A continuation of this theme; As I mentioned in my last post, the ability of the Internet Explorer browsers to cope with lists is rather variable, and the following page is similar to the last, expect that it uses a jQuery script to make all IE browsers earlier than IE9 and back to and including IE6 do the right thing. All the differences are dealt with inside the IE only conditional comments in the head of the page. This means that the W3C browsers and IE9 dont get to see that code, and only those that need it do. Barry

On Friday, November 19, 2010 12:50 PM (UTC+13) Greg wrote:- > If I have some photographs in a directory under misc at rootsweb > freepages, how do I address them from somewhere else on the web. > > For instance, if I had a blog and I wanted to show a photograph that is > at freepages in that blog, how would I do that. > ---------------------------- Greg <a href="http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~account/directory-name/mypic.jpg"> My Pic </a> The default directory is "misc_html", so there is no need to include it in the URL. Usual proviso; you are using the pics in your freepages site, and are not just using rootsweb for storage. Barry

If I have some photographs in a directory under misc at rootsweb freepages, how do I address them from somewhere else on the web. For instance, if I had a blog and I wanted to show a photograph that is at freepages in that blog, how would I do that.

On Friday, November 19, 2010 6:10 AM Ralph wrote:- > > I suspect the "problem" is that you're ignoring the fundamental HTML "box > rule". Most HTML elements -- including list items -- are "nonreplaced > elements" and have their content presented by the user agent (browser) > within a box generated by the element. CSS allows you to play with the > boxes' sizes; it doesn't allow you to break the boxes. > > -rt_/) -------------------------------- Ralph, In the case you referred to, the use of the pseudo class ":before" shifted the goal posts, and the browser(s) hanging indent also moves. That can be fixed with the judicious use of margins. By design, the space between the list identifier, i.e "bullet"/"#" and the commencement of the data line is fixed. Even that can be changed, e.g. <li><b>data</b></li>, and the styles for <b> are:- b { display:block; font-weight:normal; margin:-1.2em 0 0 1em; } An example (using part of the page posted by Rod Davis) is at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/indent-example.html There is of course the inherent problem of how the IE stable of browsers may, or most probably wont handle these issues. jQuery does provide a cross-browser method. Barry

Rod wrote: "re page at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs/V0/bylaws.htm *Problem:* I cannot get the section numbers (e.g. ?2.) to render OUTSIDE the principal box. All browsers insist on rendering INSIDE, so that the continuation lines align with it instead of standing outset to the left. Here is the relevant CSS ... {deleted}" I suspect the "problem" is that you're ignoring the fundamental HTML "box rule". Most HTML elements -- including list items -- are "nonreplaced elements" and have their content presented by the user agent (browser) within a box generated by the element. CSS allows you to play with the boxes' sizes; it doesn't allow you to break the boxes. -rt_/)

On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:29 PM (UTC+13) Rod Davis wrote:- re page at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs/V0/bylaws.htm *Problem:* I cannot get the section numbers (e.g. §2.) to render OUTSIDE the principal box. All browsers insist on rendering INSIDE, so that the continuation lines align with it instead of standing outset to the left. Here is the relevant CSS, which is all in the source for the page: ul{ counter-reset:section; list-style:none outside; } ul>li:before{ font-weight:bold; counter-increment: section; content: "\00a7 " counter(section) ". "; } What could I be doing wrong? (using FireFox 3.6, Opera 10.63, Safari 5.0.2, Chrome 9.0) It must be something simple, but i just don't see it. ---------------------------------------- Rod, Always gets me caught when I go to do it. Try this, and note the /* comments */ ul{ counter-reset:section; list-style:none outside; border:solid 1px red; /* check to see where you are */ } ul>li:before{ margin-left: -1.5em; /* establish indent for extra lines */ font-weight:bold; counter-increment: section; content: "\00a7 " counter(section) ". "; } li { margin-left: 2em; /* move whole list right or (-) left */ margin-top: .5em; } Checks in all the W3C browsers, and should be ok in IE 9, though haven't checked. Barry

The comments I made yesterday regarding the use of the Rootsweb id #userContentFP to isolate your work from banner styles when your page is hosted on a Rootsweb server, need to be amplified to avoid confusion. When your page is has been loaded to the RW server, it will be served in the following manner:- <body> <div id="RootsBanner-SearchWrapper"> <!-- Rootsweb top banner --> </div> <div id="userContent"> <!-- your page contents go here --> </div> <div id="fp_ftr"> <!-- Freepages bottom banner --> </div> </body> Now Pat Geary has pointed out (thanks Pat) that if you were to include the div#userContentFP to isolate your link styles from the RW banners, then your page link styles wouldn't work locally. Very true, and the simplest method of fixing that is to ensure that you place the contents of your page, i.e. that between the <body> and </body> tags in a container div and give it an id. So the usual #container, #wrapper ids will do the trick, and just prefix your generic link styles with, e.g. - div#wrapper a {} div#wrapper a:link () div#wrapper a:visited () div#wrapper a:hover () div#wrapper a:active () etc.. and don't forget the LoVe HAte order for the pseudo classes. There is an alternative method (to isolate the styles), but I'll leave that for another time. Barry

re page at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs/V0/bylaws.htm *Problem:* I cannot get the section numbers (e.g. §2.) to render OUTSIDE the principal box. All browsers insist on rendering INSIDE, so that the continuation lines align with it instead of standing outset to the left. Here is the relevant CSS, which is all in the source for the page: ul{ counter-reset:section; list-style:none outside; } ul>li:before{ font-weight:bold; counter-increment: section; content: "\00a7 " counter(section) ". "; } What could I be doing wrong? (using FireFox 3.6, Opera 10.63, Safari 5.0.2, Chrome 9.0) It must be something simple, but i just don't see it. -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Trustee and Webmaster Little Nine Partners Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs/ Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/

Recently I came across some styles for links. They were in a similar format to those found in stylesheet associated with Patricia Geary's excellent templates. The reason I looked at the styles was to see why those targetting hyperlinks interfered with those in the Rootsweb banners. The explanation is rather simple, the "a" styles are generic, i.e. they will affect any link on the page irrespective of whether it has an "id" or a "class". Fixing the problem is also easy, just place the styles inside your pages #container, #wrapper or whatever other named div you have your pages content enclosed in. I'll give an example in a moment, but in the meantime have a look at the styles and then find beneath them the same styles simplified. a:link { font-weight: bold; color: #640E0E; background: transparent; text-decoration: none; } a:visited{ font-weight: bold; color: #640E0E; background: transparent; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none; } a:hover { font-weight: bold; text-decoration : none; background: #E2DEDE; color: #000000; } a:active { font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; background: #E2DEDE; color: #000000; } Yes, the styles above become:- a { font-weight:bold; text-decoration:none; } a:link, a:visited { color: #640E0E; background: transparent; } a:visited { padding: 0px; } a:hover, a:active { background: #E2DEDE; color: #000000; } - and if they are used in a page hosted by http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com or http://freepages.ancestry.rootsweb.com, then you can use the provided page container id, #userContentFP, to limit your styles to your work only. Or if you always place your page content within another div, then use the id of that div. The choice is yours. div#userContentFP a { font-weight:bold; text-decoration:none; } div#userContentFP a:link, div#userContentFP a:visited { color: #640E0E; background: transparent; } div#userContentFP a:visited { padding: 0px; } div#userContentFP a:hover, div#userContentFP a:active { background: #E2DEDE; color: #000000; } So there you have it, a simplification of styles and a method to ensure they target just your work. Barry

Judy, Worcester is located south of Birmingham in the Midlands region of England. The pronunciation is:- "woo" (as in wood) and the center of the word is silent and the only the end is said as "ster", which I know is contrary to the pronunciation of wor-ces-ter for Worcester, MA. It's a lovely place, I should know, I used to live there. Phone listings you wanted - supplied "off list". Barry

On 11/15/2010 3:14 PM, J.A. Florian wrote: > http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en//search/residential/search.publisha?Surname=&Location=&Initial=&Street= > <http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en//search/residential/search.publisha?Surname=&Location=&Initial=&Street=> > > does not charge and is from British Telecom. > If that site says the person "might be ex-directory or..." then what > does that mean? Does that mean "unlisted at subscriber's request"? YES > Which part of the address is a Post Code? I have this: WORCESTER, WR5 1SE WR5 1SE > Does an oversease address go like this? > Name > Street address > City/Town (then what?) (then what at end?)-- what are the last 2 > pieces called? > Judy eg 192 Selwyn Avenue Highams Park (this is a district which is like a town within a city) London (other places will have city and then the county such as Essex) England E4 (that is the old short form, new has more characters Phone numbers dialed from within England are different from dialing then from overseas as you drop the leading zero and add 01 for direct dial then 44 for county code and then the phone number. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Ian Singer <ian@iansinger.com> wrote: > On 11/15/2010 8:02 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: > > I need a phone number in the UK. The sites I visited online won't give > UK > > numbers unless I pay a "premium fee". AT&T wants $8.00 plus a "federal > > surcharge" of an unspecified amount just to be connected to UK directory > > assistance. > > > http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en//search/residential/search.publisha?Surname=&Location=&Initial=&Street= > > does not charge and is from British Telecom. > > Ian Singer ==== If that site says the person "might be ex-directory or..." then what does that mean? Does that mean "unlisted at subscriber's request"? Which part of the address is a Post Code? I have this: WORCESTER, WR5 1SE Does an oversease address go like this? Name Street address City/Town (then what?) (then what at end?)-- what are the last 2 pieces called? Judy

On 11/15/2010 8:02 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: > I need a phone number in the UK. The sites I visited online won't give UK > numbers unless I pay a "premium fee". AT&T wants $8.00 plus a "federal > surcharge" of an unspecified amount just to be connected to UK directory > assistance. http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en//search/residential/search.publisha?Surname=&Location=&Initial=&Street= does not charge and is from British Telecom. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

I need a phone number in the UK. The sites I visited online won't give UK numbers unless I pay a "premium fee". AT&T wants $8.00 plus a "federal surcharge" of an unspecified amount just to be connected to UK directory assistance. If someone lives in the Worcester (or is it spelled Worchester??) area and can look up a phone number for me, please respond OFF-List. I have a full name and address. Or if there's a really free web site to get UK numbers, please let me know. Thanks, Judy

Sheri, I've updated the page to incorporate all the FreeFind results in javascript files. This reduces the mark-up considerably and hides all the "inline styles". In addition, the mark-up has been changed to avoid the changes to the state.css file and get rid of the need to use IE conditional comments. The new page is at:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/sheri-2.html and the additional javascript file required can be downloaded from:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/ff-results-window.js and the call for that file is in the head of the page. The write function is placed between the banner closing div and your topmenu opening div - check the View Source code. As before, if the javascript is not turned on in the user's browser, the results will be displayed as a new page in the existing window. The bar-1.png image is still used, and the bar will load a similar background color if the image is not available. Barry

Sheri, The FreeFind results coding is between the end of your banner div and the start of the topmenu div. I suggest you just copy and paste it from the View Source of:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/sheri-1.html It includes the link to the javascript file which you can get from:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/ff-search-results.js and place it in your root directory. The FreeFind results window top bar now uses a small image to give a realistic look, and that can be downloaded from:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/images/bar-1.png and should be placed in your images folder/directory. Your state.css file has had one entry added (at the end) to cover the positioning of the closing X symbol on the top bar. I suggest you just download the whole file from:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/style.css and save over your existing one. You will also notice in the head of the page that there is an IE only conditional comment to correct IE's positioning of the closing X symbol. Copy and paste into your file. Checks indicate that it will work correctly in all W3C browsers and IE9 back to and including IE6. Should you run into any problems, just let me know. Barry > From: barrycarls@gmail.com > To: mytwigs@hotmail.com; freepages-help@rootsweb.com > CC: barrycarlson@xtra.co.nz > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Java and Search > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:20:16 +1300 > > Sheri, > > Sorry for the delay with organising the FreeFind search script. > > It is now inserted and working with a copy of your page at:- > > http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/sheri-1.html > > Let me know if it is OK, and I'll get the cleaned up code back to you. > > Barry

Sheri, Sorry for the delay with organising the FreeFind search script. It is now inserted and working with a copy of your page at:- http://bristowefamilies.com/indiana/sheri-1.html Let me know if it is OK, and I'll get the cleaned up code back to you. Barry

Sheri, I don't know the answer to your question except to use a simple table, borderless if you need it that way. If you need the same info on many pages. it could be an 'include'. But I see a great 'application' for your text box. I think users could like having such a box to make notes during a visit. Like, I use a laptop in bed, so I only have a 2"wide by maybe 4"long flat area next to my mouse pad in the center /front before the keyboard starts; and if I close my laptop the center of the lid has a logo that makes a prounounced bump in paper. A user would be able to write notes and copy their notes to another program before leaving the page. I wonder if this text box could be made into a pop-up??? Judy On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Sheri Bush <mytwigs@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I think the list has been down. All of my earlier tries were returned as > Delivery Status Notification (Failure) > > I have a code for a box which I want to use. I have run into an odd problem > with it though. > > This is the code: > <textarea rows="4" cols="40"> > > </textarea> > > It puts up a list/box which scrolls if it gets long. I want to use it in > this way: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~injacktp/ > > The > problem is I see spell check edits and you can write in the box or > delete the text. It will come back if you X out and go to the page > again. How do I overcome this problem, or where can I go to learn how > to create a box another way? > > Thank you > Sheri