YES!! I found it! Returned Data #2 lorem ipsum dolor I'll take a look at your code after dinner to see how you did it. I take it I could just use some otherwise blank space to hide my files in that area? Thank you! Now I'll be able to stop those pages from showing up under the Unlinked Files in Reports. Learn something new every day - LOL Judy On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Barry Carlson <barrycarls@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 AM (UTC+13) > Judy Florian wrote (in part);- > > > Would there be a way to name the link a certain >> phrase, or make the link itself more invisible or less noticeable to >> visitors, so visitors would be less likely to click on said link? How >> could I write "the link" so it doesn't show up as "a link"? >> >> Hope I've made sense in what I'm asking. >> >> My goal is simply to get those pages linked so Frontpage won't keep >> reporting them as being "unlinked pages". >> > ------------------------------- > > Judy, > > Links can be hidden in all kinds of places. All you need to do is that they > display the same color as their surroundings. Your clue will be when the > cursor pointer changes to a hand, and depending on your browser the url may > show up in either the address bar or the status bar. > > A good place to hide links is plain text. Just select a letter, punctuation > mark etc.. and make it a link. Ensure that it normally displays in the same > style and color as the rest of the text, and the only clue will be if you > run the cursor over it. > > There is a list of links in the following page. Three are visible, and one > is not. The hidden one is not immediately after the 3rd, but effectively 3 > rows below. See if you can find it bearing in mind that it is only one space > wide. > > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/hidden-link.html > > The links are to text files only. > > Barry

In folders of pictures-only, it's recommended to put an "index.htm/l" page in each of those folders so the folder contents can't be accessed (such as when a web visitor finds the folder by accident or erases the end of the URL back to a folder name). Some people put a message like, "You are not authorized to view this folder. Please return to the main site page." (or similar message) Frontpage users know that the program lists all "unlinked files" as well as broken links. Here's my question. All of the "not authorized" pages aren't linked from the site's main index.htm/l page, so those pages get listed in the "unlinked files" in Frontpage. That's not a big deal, unless you have many picture-only folders. Is there a method I could use to list on the main site page one link that would go to one page that would list all of the "unauthorized" pages? Would there be a way to name the link a certain phrase, or make the link itself more invisible or less noticeable to visitors, so visitors would be less likely to click on said link? How could I write "the link" so it doesn't show up as "a link"? Hope I've made sense in what I'm asking. My goal is simply to get those pages linked so Frontpage won't keep reporting them as being "unlinked pages". Also, I have a follow META on those "unauthorized" pages. Should I change those to nofollow nocache etc? And, do the "unauthorized" pages need to have my left-side site navigation, top banner include, and bottom include left as they are on all pages--- OR, should I strip the page down to just having a link back to the main site index page?? Judy

Lorrie, This link may help you with sorting out the IE6 & 7 problems. http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/pseudoclass-hover Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrie Laskey" <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> To: ""Linda H. Gutiérrez"" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> Cc: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please Linda, I thought "hover" was supported by all major browser, IE7 and up. I'll do some investigating. If you have problems, then others do, too. I will move the hover tabs to above the images since hey are hard to find for some viewers and fix the typos. Thanks. Lorrie On 01/17/11 15:41, Linda H. Gutiérrez wrote: > Lorrie, > > It does not work in IE7. The numbers do not appear active in anyway. It > does work in IE8. Haven't had an opportunity yet to view in FF to see any > differences. > > BTW, you have some typos in your text below the hover slide show. > > (Jill, thanks for pointing out where it is - I tried to check when Lorrie > first posted but didn't realize it was lower in the page. :) ) > > Hope this helps. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County , New York Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > Monroe County, New York History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jill Muir > To: 'Ian Singer' ; freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 17 January, 2011 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > > > Fine in Flock, FF and Opera Lorrie, > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/images.shtml > > Ian the six numbered tabs are *below* the text and then the large > image. > > Lorrie - should the pictures change by themselves as this has happened > to > me, without mouse-ing over the tabs - honest guy!! > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ > ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website > http://gravematters.org.uk > ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions > > > -----Original Message----- > From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Singer > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:52 PM > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > > On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > link to second hover show > > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> > > Fine under Firefox on PC > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > Now has no numbers to hover over > Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL > > Ian Singer > > -- > > > > ========================================================================= > See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com > hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 > All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com > Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com > I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? > > ========================================================================= > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fine in Flock, FF and Opera Lorrie, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/images.shtml Ian the six numbered tabs are *below* the text and then the large image. Lorrie - should the pictures change by themselves as this has happened to me, without mouse-ing over the tabs - honest guy!! Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website http://gravematters.org.uk ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Singer Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:52 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > link to second hover show > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> Fine under Firefox on PC <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> Now has no numbers to hover over Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? ========================================================================= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barry, Thanks. I was going to do this soon. Sitepoint is a great site. Lorrie On 01/17/11 16:51, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > This link may help you with sorting out the IE6 & 7 problems. > > http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/pseudoclass-hover > > Barry > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrie Laskey" > <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> > To: ""Linda H. Gutiérrez"" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > Cc: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > > > Linda, > > I thought "hover" was supported by all major browser, IE7 and up. I'll > do some investigating. If you have problems, then others do, too. I will > move the hover tabs to above the images since hey are hard to find for > some viewers and fix the typos. Thanks. > > Lorrie > > > On 01/17/11 15:41, Linda H. Gutiérrez wrote: >> Lorrie, >> >> It does not work in IE7. The numbers do not appear active in anyway. >> It does work in IE8. Haven't had an opportunity yet to view in FF to >> see any differences. >> >> BTW, you have some typos in your text below the hover slide show. >> >> (Jill, thanks for pointing out where it is - I tried to check when >> Lorrie first posted but didn't realize it was lower in the page. :) ) >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County , New York Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys >> Monroe County, New York History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jill Muir >> To: 'Ian Singer' ; freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Monday, 17 January, 2011 12:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please >> >> >> Fine in Flock, FF and Opera Lorrie, >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/images.shtml >> >> Ian the six numbered tabs are *below* the text and then the large >> image. >> >> Lorrie - should the pictures change by themselves as this has >> happened to >> me, without mouse-ing over the tabs - honest guy!! >> >> Best wishes, >> Jill >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ >> ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website >> http://gravematters.org.uk >> ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Singer >> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:52 PM >> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please >> >> On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> >> > link to second hover show >> > >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> >> >> Fine under Firefox on PC >> >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> >> >> Now has no numbers to hover over >> Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL >> >> Ian Singer >> >> -- >> >> >> >> ========================================================================= >> >> See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com >> hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 >> All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com >> Charts and searching using TNG from >> http://www.tngsitebuilding.com >> I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your >> reply? >> >> ========================================================================= >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, I thought "hover" was supported by all major browser, IE7 and up. I'll do some investigating. If you have problems, then others do, too. I will move the hover tabs to above the images since hey are hard to find for some viewers and fix the typos. Thanks. Lorrie On 01/17/11 15:41, Linda H. Gutiérrez wrote: > Lorrie, > > It does not work in IE7. The numbers do not appear active in anyway. It does work in IE8. Haven't had an opportunity yet to view in FF to see any differences. > > BTW, you have some typos in your text below the hover slide show. > > (Jill, thanks for pointing out where it is - I tried to check when Lorrie first posted but didn't realize it was lower in the page. :) ) > > Hope this helps. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County , New York Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > Monroe County, New York History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jill Muir > To: 'Ian Singer' ; freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 17 January, 2011 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > > > Fine in Flock, FF and Opera Lorrie, > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/images.shtml > > Ian the six numbered tabs are *below* the text and then the large image. > > Lorrie - should the pictures change by themselves as this has happened to > me, without mouse-ing over the tabs - honest guy!! > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ > ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website > http://gravematters.org.uk > ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions > > > -----Original Message----- > From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Singer > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:52 PM > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > > On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > > link to second hover show > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> > > Fine under Firefox on PC > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > Now has no numbers to hover over > Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL > > Ian Singer > > -- > > > ========================================================================= > See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com > hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 > All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com > Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com > I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? > ========================================================================= > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lorrie, It does not work in IE7. The numbers do not appear active in anyway. It does work in IE8. Haven't had an opportunity yet to view in FF to see any differences. BTW, you have some typos in your text below the hover slide show. (Jill, thanks for pointing out where it is - I tried to check when Lorrie first posted but didn't realize it was lower in the page. :) ) Hope this helps. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County , New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Muir To: 'Ian Singer' ; freepages-help@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 17 January, 2011 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please Fine in Flock, FF and Opera Lorrie, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/images.shtml Ian the six numbered tabs are *below* the text and then the large image. Lorrie - should the pictures change by themselves as this has happened to me, without mouse-ing over the tabs - honest guy!! Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website http://gravematters.org.uk ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Singer Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:52 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > link to second hover show > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> Fine under Firefox on PC <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> Now has no numbers to hover over Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? ========================================================================= ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net>wrote: > List, > > Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? === Hi Lorrie, I know you asked about the slide show but I don't see it on the URL you gave. I try to respond to "only" the part someone has asked about because (IMO) additional comments can get overwhelming for the person who asked about something else. But I hope you won't mind me making one off-the-subject comment. At the top of http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ you have this: If you have any of the surnames (a list of surnames given but removed for this email) or similar surnames in your family, we might be related. To find out, follow *this link *<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/gedcoms.shtml>to view my direct ancestors and *this link *<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/research.shtml>to view my gedcoms. If you don't see your ancestor listed, contact me. (With "this link" as a hyperlink for each.) My comment: If you google phrases like "this link", "click this link", or "follow this link", you'll see thousands of entries. Even the government's NASA-TV page has 2 "follow this link" items which show under #1 ONLY because it's NASA. I believe sentences with links can be written descriptively so that every_word_counts for Google search. For example, on your sentences, I'd change them to: If you have any of the surnames (a list of surnames given but removed for this email) or similar surnames in your family, we might be related. To find out,(make link--> view my direct ancestors (<--end of that link) and (begin link----->) view my gedcoms (<--end that link). If you don't see your ancestor listed, contact me. Or, an even better way for that second sentence might be: To find out,(make link--> view Lorri Laskey's direct ancestors (<--end of that link) and (begin link----->) view Lorri Laskey's gedcoms (<--end that link). Or, maybe you could use a primary ancestor's name. Let's say the primary ancestor is Michael Laskey 1781-1840. To find out,(make link--> view descendants of Michael Laskey 1781-1840 (<--end of that link) and (begin link----->) view Laskey gedcoms (<--end that link). Every word on a webpage and every link is valuable typing. A few changes in writing sentences can improve Google's results (not necessarily ranking but search effectiveness and clarity). Internet users would be more likely to search for 'the primary ancestor's name' rather than search for "this link". If they heard that a lady named Lorri Laskey had information on a website, they'd use your name as a search term. If users find "About 89,900,000 results" for the search term "this link", they likely wouldn't click any of the results. Judy

On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > link to second hover show > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> Fine under Firefox on PC <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> Now has no numbers to hover over Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

At 12:17 PM 1/17/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >I rechecked it in FF after this email and it is working for me. >Hmmm.....I wonder what the problem could be. I know it still needs work. >It does not work in IE6 from my testing but not sure about later versions. =========== I can only check IE 6 and 7 in SuperPreview which is NOT interactive so I can only see the original look and in IE 6 it does not work. Part of the number tabs are above the image and some are below. Looks ok in IE 7 but don't know if it works or not. I can send you a screenshot offlist but someone with those browsers installed really needs to check and see if it works pat

Judy, You make good points. I am well aware of the value of relevant, well written content for improved seo. I have been lazy, concentrating on other aspects of web development to the neglect of seo. This is a goal of mine to learn more about seo and make that a regular part of website maintenance. I'll certainly make note of your ideas and incorporate them into my site. I know "about" seo from light tutorials but have not learned the "deeper" lessons. You know more about this than me, as evidenced from your comments. Thanks for sharing your insight. Lorrie On 01/17/11 12:02, J.A. Florian wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net > <mailto:lrmalcom@bellsouth.net>> wrote: > > List, > > Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? > > === > Hi Lorrie, > I know you asked about the slide show but I don't see it on the URL > you gave. > I try to respond to "only" the part someone has asked about because > (IMO) additional comments can get overwhelming for the person who > asked about something else. But I hope you won't mind me making one > off-the-subject comment. > At the top of http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> you > have this: If you have any of the surnames (a list of surnames given > but removed for this email) or similar surnames in your family, we > might be related. To find out, follow *this link * > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/gedcoms.shtml>to > view my direct ancestors and *this link * > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/research.shtml>to > view my gedcoms. If you don't see your ancestor listed, contact me. > (With "this link" as a hyperlink for each.) > My comment: If you google phrases like "this link", "click this > link", or "follow this link", you'll see thousands of entries. Even > the government's NASA-TV page has 2 "follow this link" items which > show under #1 ONLY because it's NASA. > I believe sentences with links can be written descriptively so that > every_word_counts for Google search. For example, on your sentences, > I'd change them to: If you have any of the surnames (a list of > surnames given but removed for this email) or similar surnames in your > family, we might be related. To find out,(make link--> view my direct > ancestors (<--end of that link) and (begin link----->) view my > gedcoms (<--end that link). If you don't see your ancestor listed, > contact me. > Or, an even better way for that second sentence might be: To find > out,(make link--> view Lorri Laskey's direct ancestors (<--end of that > link) and (begin link----->) view Lorri Laskey's gedcoms (<--end that > link). > Or, maybe you could use a primary ancestor's name. Let's say the > primary ancestor is Michael Laskey 1781-1840. To find out,(make > link--> view descendants of Michael Laskey 1781-1840 (<--end of that > link) and (begin link----->) view Laskey gedcoms (<--end that link). > Every word on a webpage and every link is valuable typing. A few > changes in writing sentences can improve Google's results (not > necessarily ranking but search effectiveness and clarity). Internet > users would be more likely to search for 'the primary ancestor's name' > rather than search for "this link". If they heard that a lady named > Lorri Laskey had information on a website, they'd use your name as a > search term. If users find "About 89,900,000 results" for the search > term "this link", they likely wouldn't click any of the results. > Judy

Ian, The second link in my last post was to a second page with another "hover show". Basically the same but less code and less problematic. Good to know that it, too, works in FF. The numbers are gone from the first "hover show" on my home page. Feedback persuaded me to use more descriptions tab names, less confusion. Thanks, all. Lorrie On 01/17/11 11:51, Ian Singer wrote: > On 1/17/2011 12:17 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > >> link to second hover show >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> > Fine under Firefox on PC > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > Now has no numbers to hover over > Worked OK 2 days ago if it was same URL > > Ian Singer >

I rechecked it in FF after this email and it is working for me. Hmmm.....I wonder what the problem could be. I know it still needs work. It does not work in IE6 from my testing but not sure about later versions. I now realize, from respondent feedback, that I named it incorrectly which caused a lot of confusion. It is not a "slide show" but a "hover show". To view the next window of text, the tabs must be hovered with the mouse. If this still does not work for anyone, I would appreciate an email with the details. I also added a second, less complicated and problematic "hover show" to another page. If anyone is interested in seeing it, the link follows. This is powered by html and css, no scripting. Feedback is always appreciated. Thanks for all of the help. link to second hover show <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/images.shtml> Lorrie On 01/17/11 10:51, anne-ology wrote: > Just viewed with FireFox - > nothing moves; > what appears to be links, don't open; > when placing the mouse over images, nothing; > > Maybe you're working on this now - hope so. > > From the front, it looks as if you'll eventually have a good site for > genealogists to peruse, > > > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:00 AM,<freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > >> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:21:17 -0600 >> From: Lorrie Laskey<lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> >> Subject: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please >> To: Freepages<Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<4D328E5D.8050104@bellsouth.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> List, >> >> Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to >> have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test >> feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs >> some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant >> and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, >> Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate >> feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, >> 8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. >> >> Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any >> or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? >> >> * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over >> each of the two numbers? >> * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it >> spill out? >> * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? >> * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? >> * how can I improve it? and why? is the suggestion browser related? >> * any constructive comments welcome >> >> Lorrie >> >> link to my site< >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:34:05 -0500 >> From: Ian Singer<ian@iansinger.com> >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please >> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID:<4D32915D.100@iansinger.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> >> I was expecting a slideshow of pictures not screens of different people >> and I would never have known that they existed if you had not mentioned >> 1 2 3 here. It is NOT obvious that they are links. >> >> Ian Singer >> >> >> >> >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:21:32 -0800 (PST) >> From: Kabe<kabespir@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please >> To: Lorrie Laskey<lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> >> Cc: Freepages-Help-L Rootsweb-L<Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<479730.41282.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Trying to view now, Lorrie. Perhaps you are working on it. I'm using IE7 >> and am finding: >> To learn more go to the next slide. >> (Does nothing. Maybe it should be a link?) >> ? >> 1 2 3 are not clear as to being slide numbers. >> ? >> 1 is showing the main page >> ? >> 2 and 3 changed the text but not the image?? Now nothing is happening as >> only 1 is there (numbers 2 3 still showing but not moving when mouse hovered >> over. Perhaps you are publishing now? >> ? >> Content is contained.? >> ? >> I would put an arrow for next? slide somwhere next to the info about "slide >> show" >> as the? numbers seem to be unrelated that far down.? What does joining the >> mailing list have to do with the slide show for example? >> ? >> Hope you get it working better. >> ? >> Kathie B. >> >> >> >> >> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:33:09 -0000 >> From: "Jill Muir"<jill@shottle.plus.com> >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please >> To: "'Lorrie Laskey'"<lrmalcom@bellsouth.net>, "'Freepages'" >> <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<85E7CAE268D649F4976201851FC1C016@JILLMUIR> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hi Lorrie, >> Have you disabled the 1,2,3 links now? I am unable to get anywhere with >> them and hovering over does not show a link. The page jumps too when I do >> this, so I wonder what is happening? >> >> When you do get them working again, I should make it quite plain in the >> link >> text what the individual numbers represent. >> >> Best wishes, >> Jill >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eglamorgan/> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just viewed with FireFox - nothing moves; what appears to be links, don't open; when placing the mouse over images, nothing; Maybe you're working on this now - hope so. From the front, it looks as if you'll eventually have a good site for genealogists to peruse, On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:00 AM, <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:21:17 -0600 > From: Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> > Subject: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > To: Freepages <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4D328E5D.8050104@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > List, > > Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to > have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test > feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs > some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant > and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, > Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate > feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, > 8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. > > Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any > or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? > > * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over > each of the two numbers? > * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it > spill out? > * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? > * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? > * how can I improve it? and why? is the suggestion browser related? > * any constructive comments welcome > > Lorrie > > link to my site < > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > > > > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:34:05 -0500 > From: Ian Singer <ian@iansinger.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D32915D.100@iansinger.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > I was expecting a slideshow of pictures not screens of different people > and I would never have known that they existed if you had not mentioned > 1 2 3 here. It is NOT obvious that they are links. > > Ian Singer > > > > > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:21:32 -0800 (PST) > From: Kabe <kabespir@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > To: Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> > Cc: Freepages-Help-L Rootsweb-L <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <479730.41282.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Trying to view now, Lorrie. Perhaps you are working on it. I'm using IE7 > and am finding: > To learn more go to the next slide. > (Does nothing. Maybe it should be a link?) > ? > 1 2 3 are not clear as to being slide numbers. > ? > 1 is showing the main page > ? > 2 and 3 changed the text but not the image?? Now nothing is happening as > only 1 is there (numbers 2 3 still showing but not moving when mouse hovered > over. Perhaps you are publishing now? > ? > Content is contained.? > ? > I would put an arrow for next? slide somwhere next to the info about "slide > show" > as the? numbers seem to be unrelated that far down.? What does joining the > mailing list have to do with the slide show for example? > ? > Hope you get it working better. > ? > Kathie B. > > > > > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:33:09 -0000 > From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > To: "'Lorrie Laskey'" <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net>, "'Freepages'" > <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <85E7CAE268D649F4976201851FC1C016@JILLMUIR> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Lorrie, > Have you disabled the 1,2,3 links now? I am unable to get anywhere with > them and hovering over does not show a link. The page jumps too when I do > this, so I wonder what is happening? > > When you do get them working again, I should make it quite plain in the > link > text what the individual numbers represent. > > Best wishes, > Jill > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eglamorgan/> >

At 01:21 AM 1/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to >have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test >feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs >some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant >and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, >Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate >feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, >8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. I can only check in IE 8 right now as that is all I have installed. >Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any >or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? > > * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over > each of the two numbers? I see NO 1, 2, or 3. just three content links which change when I hover the mouse over them. > * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it > spill out? Looks like it is contained within the area. > * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? Yes in IE 8 but no in FF at least on my laptop which is all I have up and running right now. > * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? Honestly not sure. Seems easy enough to figure out. pat

Pat, The 1. 2 and 3 tabs have been changed to more descriptive names thanks to feedback from others. Good to know it is now mostly behaving. I am still fine tuning as I get more responses. Thanks for your feedback it is invaluable. There is no way that I can duplicate all of the many, many desktop environments in use. Thanks again. Lorrie On 01/16/11 14:06, Pat Geary wrote: > At 01:21 AM 1/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to >> have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test >> feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs >> some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant >> and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, >> Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate >> feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, >> 8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. > > > I can only check in IE 8 right now as that is all I have installed. > > >> Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any >> or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? >> >> * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over >> each of the two numbers? > > I see NO 1, 2, or 3. just three content links which change when I > hover the mouse over them. > >> * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it >> spill out? > > Looks like it is contained within the area. > >> * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? > > Yes in IE 8 but no in FF at least on my laptop which is all I have up > and running right now. > >> * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? > > > Honestly not sure. Seems easy enough to figure out. > > pat

List, Your feedback is what I expected but needed to verify and has been very helpful. Obviously, I have more work to do. I am grateful that I have a place where I can call on others of like interests when I need help. Thanks to all who responded. If I can be of help to anyone, please ask. Lorrie On 01/16/11 01:33, Jill Muir wrote: > Hi Lorrie, > Have you disabled the 1,2,3 links now? I am unable to get anywhere with > them and hovering over does not show a link. The page jumps too when I do > this, so I wonder what is happening? > > When you do get them working again, I should make it quite plain in the link > text what the individual numbers represent. > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ > ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website > http://gravematters.org.uk > ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions > > -----Original Message----- > From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorrie Laskey > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:21 AM > To: Freepages > Subject: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please > > List, > > Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to > have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test > feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs > some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant > and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, > Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate > feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, > 8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. > > Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any > or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? > > * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over > each of the two numbers? > * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it > spill out? > * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? > * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? > * how can I improve it? and why? is the suggestion browser related? > * any constructive comments welcome > > Lorrie > > link to my site<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Lorrie, Have you disabled the 1,2,3 links now? I am unable to get anywhere with them and hovering over does not show a link. The page jumps too when I do this, so I wonder what is happening? When you do get them working again, I should make it quite plain in the link text what the individual numbers represent. Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glamorgan/ ~ Glamorgan Mailing List's own website http://gravematters.org.uk ~Transcribing Monumental Inscriptions -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorrie Laskey Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:21 AM To: Freepages Subject: [FreeHelp] website functionality help please List, Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, 8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over each of the two numbers? * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it spill out? * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? * how can I improve it? and why? is the suggestion browser related? * any constructive comments welcome Lorrie link to my site <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 1/16/2011 1:21 AM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over > each of the two numbers? > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> I was expecting a slideshow of pictures not screens of different people and I would never have known that they existed if you had not mentioned 1 2 3 here. It is NOT obvious that they are links. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

List, Would someone please visit my site and test the slide show? No need to have javascript enabled. It is html and css powered. It is a test feature that needs more work but is at a stopping point and now needs some feedback. There are three slides of content, one that is constant and two that should display on hover. I tested it with Chrome, FF, Opera, Konqueror and a Linux version of IE6. Though I would appreciate feedback regarding any browser, I really need feedback regarding IE 7, 8, 9, if 9 is out, and 10 if it is out, too. Any feedback is appreciated but if possible, would you let me know any or all of the following and any other feedback that might help? * does the slide show work? does the content change on hover over each of the two numbers? * is the content contained within the slide show area or does it spill out? * does it stay withing it's borders when enlarged and reduced? * is it's use intuitive? do it need instructions? * how can I improve it? and why? is the suggestion browser related? * any constructive comments welcome Lorrie link to my site <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/>