When a site uses an External CSS, does an "include" need a link to the stylesheet? If an "include" does need the link, why doesn't a link to it in an "include" double the efforts of a link to the stylesheet used on every page? It seems logical that 2 links (1 in the include and 1 in the page - both to the stylesheet) would conflict or duplicate the CSS. If an "include" doesn't need the link, why does removing the stylesheet link on an "include" page then remove the CSS from pages that use that "include"? The includes involved are: 1. My top/banner info. 2. My search area right under the banner include. Judy

I'm frustrated with a CSS problem. The site is http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ The CSS file is religion.css The specific area in the CSS is background-image: url("../tutorials/images/nabbar.jpg"); in this part of the CSS The problem has been that I didn't have a nabbar.jpg to use until now, so this line has always reported a broken link. Through Internet searches I found a line graphic called nabbar.gif and I put it in the folder _includes in my web. The new image is not uploaded yet but it will be _includes/nabbar.gif (with ../ added in front) When I change the line in CSS to the new link for nabbar.gif it takes out my centermost background, a light gray color. The first thing I don't understand is, if it is a "hr" line as a graphic, why does that line say background-image: url ? Doesn't background-image refer to the all-over page color? Could someone explain the meaning of this line and how it means "use this line graphic for an hr" if it also says background-image? The second thing I don't understand is, why does changing the directory/image name take out my centermost color? I'm on a mission this month (well, now February LOL) to fix all of my broken links and broken external links, so I'd appreciate any help on this problem. Judy Area of CSS:::: /* ========================= fancy horizontal line ======================= */ div.hr { background-image: url("../tutorials/images/nabbar.jpg"); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat; display: block; height: 14px; margin: auto; width: 385px; } /* ====================== heading tags ========================== */

On Monday, January 31, 2011 1:27 PM (UTC+13) Ron Yates wrote:- > Hi all. I just uploaded this page and I can't figure out why the banner > is > rendering the way it is showing. Rather than being full width at the > bottom > it has attached itself to the bottom of my webpage content area and is > only > as wide as my content area. Not such a bad look but clearly not what was > intended nor do I understand the cause. I am using a sort of template and > this is the first time that this has occurred. Any ideas about the cause > and how to modify it would be greatly appreciated. > http://alturl.com/dzhv3 > Thanks! Ron Yates > ---------------------------------- Ron, The page is is 227KB, and that is without the image load! Anyway, after a good deal of checking and passing through the Tidy validator, I found the problem. Missing </divs> and the parser did its best and got it wrong. Your page is at:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/yates-1.html and a clean copy has been sent as an attachment. Barry

Thanks to Barry and others for their suggestions. Yes indeed it was turning out to be a resource intensive pull so I redistributed all of the information over a different layout with alpha indexing and converted the original page to a text only composite. It seems to be do well at this point. Thanks again for all the help. Regards, Ron Yates -----Original Message-----From: Barry Carlson [mailto:barrycarls@gmail.com] On Monday, January 31, 2011 1:27 PM (UTC+13) Ron Yates wrote:- > Hi all. I just uploaded this page and I can't figure out why the > banner is rendering the way it is showing. Rather than being full > width at the bottom it has attached itself to the bottom of my webpage > content area and is only as wide as my content area. Not such a bad > look but clearly not what was intended nor do I understand the cause. > I am using a sort of template and this is the first time that this has > occurred. Any ideas about the cause and how to modify it would be > greatly appreciated. > http://alturl.com/dzhv3 > Thanks! Ron Yates ---------------------------------- Ron, The page is is 227KB, and that is without the image load! Anyway, after a good deal of checking and passing through the Tidy validator, I found the problem. Missing </divs> and the parser did its best and got it wrong. Barry

At 04:31 PM 1/31/2011, Ian Singer wrote: >What I find surprising about that page is how stones from 1970 are in >such poor shape. They won't even last 100 years so that shows an effort >should be made to preserve newer gravestones so the persons child can >still read them someplace Ian, The Freepages mailing list is for discussing issues relating to Freepages web sites. Tombstone preservation can be discussed on the appropriate list(s), e.g. Tombstones@rootsweb.com as well as many area specific lists devoted to cemeteries. To find those, go to http://lists.rootsweb.com and enter tombstone as a keyword. Pat Asher Freepages List Admin

On 1/31/2011 4:18 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Ron, > Your page is at:- > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/yates-1.html > What I find surprising about that page is how stones from 1970 are in such poor shape. They won't even last 100 years so that shows an effort should be made to preserve newer gravestones so the persons child can still read them someplace. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

On Monday, January 31, 2011 4:56 AM (UTC+13) Beverly wrote:- > I am recreating my genealogy website and have one little graphics problem > that seems to be caused by the Rootsweb banner. > > I've search this forum but haven't found a specific answer to my problem. > The code inserting the Rootsweb banner has created a thin white line at > the top center of my page. The template works fine before the banner is > added, but I am not savy enough to know how to bypass the style changes > caused by the banner. > > See - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~watsonbev/Faulkner.html > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > --------------------------- Beverly, The Rootsweb server inserts your page into a div after displaying the banner, and that div is configured to place 8px of padding round your content. In your case, the background image you are using has a white area through the center portion, i.e. behind you content. To fix the problem, add to your CSS the following:- #userContentFP { margin-top:-8px; } Barry

Hi all. I just uploaded this page and I can't figure out why the banner is rendering the way it is showing. Rather than being full width at the bottom it has attached itself to the bottom of my webpage content area and is only as wide as my content area. Not such a bad look but clearly not what was intended nor do I understand the cause. I am using a sort of template and this is the first time that this has occurred. Any ideas about the cause and how to modify it would be greatly appreciated. http://alturl.com/dzhv3 Thanks! Ron Yates

Hi all. I just uploaded this page and I can't figure out why the banner is rendering the way it is showing. Rather than being full width at the bottom it has attached itself to the bottom of my webpage content area and is only as wide as my content area. Not such a bad look but clearly not what was intended nor do I understand the cause. I am using a sort of template and this is the first time that this has occurred. Any ideas about the cause and how to modify it would be greatly appreciated. http://alturl.com/dzhv3 Thanks! Ron Yates

Hi Beverly, I don't know a lot about CSS. But if I could offer the following observations: 1. The "line" is more like a white gap just above your innermost color/content area. 2. The "gap" does not extend horizontally through your right-left outermost colored area. 3. It seems logical, to me, that if it was the RW Banner, the "gap" would show across both colored areas. 4. When my browser window opens at a reduced size, the "gap" extends down the right of the innermost colored/content area. It extends down one full browser window with the window reduced. (At full size of my browser window, your page is 7 "page downs", so 1/7th of the reduced browser window shows the right-sided gap on the innermost colored area.) 5. When my browser window is open fully in IE7, the gap down the side disappears. 6. The same top gap is in Google Chrome. But not down the side. I'd look at what you have for settings for your innermost color. Hope this helps. Judy On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com>wrote: > > > > I am recreating my genealogy website and have one little graphics problem > that seems to be caused by the Rootsweb banner. > > I've search this forum but haven't found a specific answer to my problem. > The code inserting the Rootsweb banner has created a thin white line at the > top center of my page. The template works fine before the banner is added, > but I am not savy enough to know how to bypass the style changes caused by > the banner. > > See - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~watsonbev/Faulkner.html > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Beverly >

I am recreating my genealogy website and have one little graphics problem that seems to be caused by the Rootsweb banner. I've search this forum but haven't found a specific answer to my problem. The code inserting the Rootsweb banner has created a thin white line at the top center of my page. The template works fine before the banner is added, but I am not savy enough to know how to bypass the style changes caused by the banner. See - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~watsonbev/Faulkner.html Any help would be greatly appreciated. Beverly

Hi Pat, Thank you for the heads up on the mailmerge. I've corrected it on albro genealogy, and will do the rest as i get time.I received a message from that site yesterday, so it is working again. Thanks I guess to Randy's hard work. Personally, I have a hard time with those captcha boxes, I'm an old man here and have a very hard time reading some of the words. I've never had a problem with spam from my websites, but I suppose there are those who do. Thanks to everyone on the list, it's a big help. Jim in "almost warm again" Florida http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lostalbro/ --- On Sat, 1/29/11, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 3:00 AM When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html Today's Topics:    1.  mailmerge E-mail (JAMES H ALBRO)    2. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Pat Asher)    3. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Tom Beatty)    4. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Pat Geary)    5. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Pat Asher)    6. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Pat Asher)    7. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Pat Asher)    8. Re:  mailmerge E-mail (Tom Beatty) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 05:07:17 -0800 (PST) From: JAMES H ALBRO <albroj@bellsouth.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] mailmerge E-mail To: "freepages-help-L@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <615689.63223.qm@web180614.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My mailmerge e-mail no longer works even on sites where it worked before. what's happened? It seems it's since the stupid letter-box thingy has been put on. It says it sends the mail, which it in fact does, however there's no data in it, it's just a blank. Is anyone else having trouble? Nothing has been changed on any of the sites where it used to work....help!!! Jim in "almost warm again" Florida http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lostalbro/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:32:02 -0500 From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] mailmerge E-mail To: Freepages-Help <Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <610181.3357.qm@smtp126.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

The query form for my Freepages site (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~beattycem/cemquery.htm) is now working, but I have the same problem on my regular Rootsweb account for our genealogy society; that URL is http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyscgs/query.htm. Can Randy fix that one, too? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Asher To: Freepages-Help Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 18:22 Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] mailmerge E-mail At 10:52 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote: >Randy says the addition of the Captcha did break some things. He is >working on an update to the script now. Will keep you posted. Okay, it appears the kinks have been worked out. If you are using mailmerge, you can test your form now. If you encounter a problem with a form that used to work, please report the details on this list. Randy will monitor the list over the weekend. Be sure to include the URL of your form and template in your report :) Pat Asher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3408 - Release Date: 01/28/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3408 - Release Date: 01/28/11

At 10:52 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote: >Randy says the addition of the Captcha did break some things. He is >working on an update to the script now. Will keep you posted. Okay, it appears the kinks have been worked out. If you are using mailmerge, you can test your form now. If you encounter a problem with a form that used to work, please report the details on this list. Randy will monitor the list over the weekend. Be sure to include the URL of your form and template in your report :) Pat Asher

Randy says the addition of the Captcha did break some things. He is working on an update to the script now. Will keep you posted. Pat Asher At 10:23 AM 1/28/2011, Pat Asher wrote: >At 09:47 AM 1/28/2011, Pat Geary wrote: > >Checking mine now. Once i hit the submit button I am sent to a page > >with a captcha box at the bottom. Could that be causing a problem. So > >far the email that should be sent has not arrived in my inbox. > >Interesting. The mailmerge script is now stripping everything >contained between the @ symbols, which of course, contains the data, >and usually the from and to addresses for the headers. > >Copying Randy so he can take a look. > > >Pat > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 09:47 AM 1/28/2011, Pat Geary wrote: >Checking mine now. Once i hit the submit button I am sent to a page >with a captcha box at the bottom. Could that be causing a problem. So >far the email that should be sent has not arrived in my inbox. Interesting. The mailmerge script is now stripping everything contained between the @ symbols, which of course, contains the data, and usually the from and to addresses for the headers. Copying Randy so he can take a look. Pat

At 09:32 AM 1/28/2011, Pat Asher wrote: >Not sure what you mean by "letter-box thingy" so don't know if that >is an issue. =========== Checking mine now. Once i hit the submit button I am sent to a page with a captcha box at the bottom. Could that be causing a problem. So far the email that should be sent has not arrived in my inbox. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/family-group-sheet.html pat (the other one)

I'm having the same problem...the message gets sent, but the but no message content. The name and e-mail address fields show up, but no actual message. HELP! ----- Original Message ----- From: JAMES H ALBRO To: freepages-help-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 08:07 Subject: [FreeHelp] mailmerge E-mail My mailmerge e-mail no longer works even on sites where it worked before. what's happened? It seems it's since the stupid letter-box thingy has been put on. It says it sends the mail, which it in fact does, however there's no data in it, it's just a blank. Is anyone else having trouble? Nothing has been changed on any of the sites where it used to work....help!!! Jim in "almost warm again" Florida http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lostalbro/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3406 - Release Date: 01/27/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3406 - Release Date: 01/27/11

At 08:07 AM 1/28/2011, JAMES H ALBRO wrote: >My mailmerge e-mail no longer works even on sites where it worked >before. what's happened? It seems it's since the stupid letter-box >thingy has been put on. It says it sends the mail, which it in fact >does, however there's no data in it, it's just a blank. Is anyone >else having trouble? Nothing has been changed on any of the sites >where it used to work....help!!! Hi Jim, Not sure what you mean by "letter-box thingy" so don't know if that is an issue. What I DID see was in your template, mail.txt The TITLE= parameter appears to have been wrapped to two lines. That breaks the mailmerge script. Each of the parameters must be in one long line. While it will wrap in this email, it must be all on one line in the template you upload, i.e. TITLE=Your message request has been sent!<br><br> <a href="http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~lostalbro/">Return</a> to the main page. Pat Asher

My mailmerge e-mail no longer works even on sites where it worked before. what's happened? It seems it's since the stupid letter-box thingy has been put on. It says it sends the mail, which it in fact does, however there's no data in it, it's just a blank. Is anyone else having trouble? Nothing has been changed on any of the sites where it used to work....help!!! Jim in "almost warm again" Florida http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lostalbro/