Beverly, The top banner looks for the opening html and opening body tag. The top banner looks for the closing /body tag and closing /html tag. If one or both sets are doubled, 2 banners get inserted (top or bottom -- or both can be affected). If one or both sets are missing a tag, the placement of the banner gets messed up. The banner inserts at a place (top or bottom banner) that makes the most sense to it, remembering "it" is only coding that can't think -- it just does what it was programmed (or coded) to do. I think I've read on this list that other problems in a page can affect banner placement, too. I've also read that if using Frames, RW banners will appear in every frame (box). So, look in your HTML first. Make sure your HEAD tags (open, close), body tags (open, close), and HTML tags (open, close) are all present, and where they should be. If you run your code through the HTML validator at http://validator.w3.org/ it will tell you if the page has problems. Lastly, post the URLs of problem pages so people on the List can look at your code and help. Judy On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com> wrote: > > Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last > few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now > about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my > website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only > assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. > > Beverly >

Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. Beverly

Here is a little Server Side Includes (SSI) script that I developed for another project I'm working on. <!--#set var="uA" value="$HTTP_USER_AGENT" --> <!--#if expr="($uA=/MSIE/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-560px 3px" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Firefox/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-152px 3px" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Opera/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-288px 3px" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Chrome/)&&($uA=/afari/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-8px 3px" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Safari/)&&($uA!=/hrome/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-420px 3px" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Mac/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-420px 3px" --> <!--#else --> <!--#endif --> Essentially the script is detecting the browser and creating some image positioning to display the logo associated with the browser. If you look at the source code of the page, you'd have little idea about what was going on, except that I have displayed the background-image positioning data in the top lefthand corner of the page. Independant of what operating system you are using, e.g. Linux, Windows or Mac, your browser will let the server know its User Agent code (string), and that information is being used to position one logo from an image containing 5 logos of the major browsers. Should the browser you are using not be either Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Mac or Safari, you will probably be left with just a blank page. http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/xhr/ssi-test.html Should anyone be interested in how the script or the image mapping works, just ask on the list. Barry

Why not enter ONE set of parents, with Almira and Zerah as alternate names for the same person? Why the difference in the choice of primary, I have no idea. Pat At 02:06 PM 2/8/2011, Rod Dav4is wrote: >ref: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&d... ><http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=katman01&id=I93&show_family=1> > >Selecting "Display pedigree in text format" shows a different pedigree >altogether, i.e. the pedigree for the alternate parents. > >(Setting alternate parents is permissible, usually indicating a >division of source opinions.) > >-- >Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA >Trustee and Webmaster >Little Nine Partners Historical Society >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs/ >Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: >http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ref: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&d... <http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=katman01&id=I93&show_family=1> Selecting "Display pedigree in text format" shows a different pedigree altogether, i.e. the pedigree for the alternate parents. (Setting alternate parents is permissible, usually indicating a division of source opinions.) -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Trustee and Webmaster Little Nine Partners Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs/ Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/

For anyone who may be interested, I've just updated and added new material to Planning a Genealogy Website (2nd edition). If interested, you can see the table of contents and download the Ebook which is F REE. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html Perhaps I shuld have asked first if this was OK to post but am in a rush to finish up as I am leaving town for a couple of days. The book is in pdf format zipped for faster download. Let me know if you have any problems. pat

Barry, I would like to know: * clarification regarding how one image with five images can be separated? * are you putting this code with an include? * in the head? * where the final css values end up being served Lorrie On 02/07/11 22:58, Barry Carlson wrote: > Here is a little Server Side Includes (SSI) script that I developed for > another project I'm working on. > > <!--#set var="uA" value="$HTTP_USER_AGENT" --> > <!--#if expr="($uA=/MSIE/)" --> > <!--#set var="cSS" value="-560px 3px" --> > <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Firefox/)" --> > <!--#set var="cSS" value="-152px 3px" --> > <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Opera/)" --> > <!--#set var="cSS" value="-288px 3px" --> > <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Chrome/)&&($uA=/afari/)" --> > <!--#set var="cSS" value="-8px 3px" --> > <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Safari/)&&($uA!=/hrome/)" --> > <!--#set var="cSS" value="-420px 3px" --> > <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Mac/)" --> > <!--#set var="cSS" value="-420px 3px" --> > <!--#else --> > <!--#endif --> > > Essentially the script is detecting the browser and creating some image > positioning to display the logo associated with the browser. If you look at > the source code of the page, you'd have little idea about what was going on, > except that I have displayed the background-image positioning data in the > top lefthand corner of the page. > > Independant of what operating system you are using, e.g. Linux, Windows or > Mac, your browser will let the server know its User Agent code (string), and > that information is being used to position one logo from an image containing > 5 logos of the major browsers. Should the browser you are using not be > either Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Mac or Safari, you will > probably be left with just a blank page. > > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/xhr/ssi-test.html > > Should anyone be interested in how the script or the image mapping works, > just ask on the list. > > Barry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 11:17 AM 2/4/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >But, I just realized I messed up my sites on the freepages side. >Apparently, I've uploaded my whole "site" as a *sub-folder* to my "site". >Sigh. I'm deleting the secondary web-within-the-website now. But I need >some help / explanation about uploading to freepages with Filezilla. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/tutorials/filezilla-instructions.htm

When I took over my first website housed on the "rootsweb" space, the former webmaster helped me set up Filezilla to upload. The first time, though, she said I uploaded "above the web" and said I needed to click ON the public folder. Uploading to there has gone smoothly ever since. But, I just realized I messed up my sites on the freepages side. Apparently, I've uploaded my whole "site" as a *sub-folder* to my "site". Sigh. I'm deleting the secondary web-within-the-website now. But I need some help / explanation about uploading to freepages with Filezilla. When I connect to the freepages server for any of my webs, it shows only / I then click to open the folder marked / I then see my Web assigned-names (family; genealogy; misc ; school-alumni; etc) Am I supposed to STOP THERE on the server side and then click on the PC folder for whichever web and then upload? For example, highlight "misc" on my PC folders and upload. OR, on the server side, am I supposed to go down and click ON THE web I want to upload "to".... and then do the same on the PC side? and then right-click to "upload". I don't ever want to create a web-within-a-web again, so could someone show me in pictures or pics with arrows, or explain the steps I should do using very simple directions? Could you also explain the steps for uploading a subfolder of a web. For example, if I want to upload "photos" in the "misc" web to an existing folder "photos" in the "misc" web, what steps do I use with Filezilla? I'm so glad I found my error and can correct it. Judy

At 12:13 AM 2/3/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >After moving a big Style area from the page to a CSS file, do I need to do >anything in particular to see if the CSS file is written correctly? > >The web page looks ok with the CSS attached to it. ============= You can validate css files the same way you do a web page, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ or if you have FF and the web developer toolbar installed, you can validate your css using the toolbar. pat

After moving a big Style area from the page to a CSS file, do I need to do anything in particular to see if the CSS file is written correctly? The web page looks ok with the CSS attached to it. Judy

On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:33 AM (UTC+13) Judy wrote:- >I probably should have said, I replace the directory/nabbar.gif but never > got/get as far as putting <div class="hr"></div> onto any page. As soon > as > I put in the directory/nabbar.gif and look at one of my previously-written > in-use pages, the centermost color has disappeared. Am I not making the > link correctly? > > In the CSS, the line was background-image: > url("../tutorials/images/nabbar.jpg"); > > I replace it with background-image: url("../_includes/nabbar.jpg"); > -------------------- Judy Your _includes directory is a subdirectory of your root directory, e.g. genealogy_html/_includes or looking at it as you see it - ~florian/_includes/ Therefore, provided you place the nabbar.jpg image in the _includes directory, the correct url is:- background-image: url("/_includes/nabbar.jpg") repeat-x center; I might be missing the point, but I don't see why you don't place the nabbar.jpg image in your images directory. It will make no difference, just change _includes for images in the url. Barry

>If the image nabbar.gif is located in the _includes folder and if >the religion css is located in the root directory, then the code for >the style rules would be /* ========================= fancy horizontal line ======================= */ div.hr { background-image: url('_includes/nabbar.gif'); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat; display: block; height: 14px; margin: auto; width: 385px; } The code for inserting it is <....div class="hr"></div> As far as I can tell when using it, it makes no changes to any of the current pages (I imported your stie for testing). Including the div as part of the style rules made absolutely no difference. It worked the same with it as without it. So not sure what is happening with yours.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Barry Carlson <barrycarls@gmail.com> wrote: > (snipped) > I might be missing the point, but I don't see why you don't place the > nabbar.jpg image in your images directory. It will make no difference, just > change _includes for images in the url. > > Barry > > Hi Barry, The main reason I put it with the includes is to remind me "this is an important image" and "don't delete this image". I put a few other images there also that are only used on the includes. Visitors won't be looking for these specific images (example: google search icon) so I don't think it matters where they or the hr graphic is stored. I use my "images" folder for the general pages' images -- submitted images, one-time use images, etc. Just personal preference and what makes sense to me/for me, I guess. Judy

PS I found the problem...had a "/" after the name of my template...please disregard the message below. _____ From: Robert Bratzler [mailto:rbratzler@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:47 PM To: 'freepages-help@rootsweb.com' Subject: MailMerge Not Working I am trying to set up MailMerge to send user email comments to me from my website without success. The form is displayed properly on my web site. But when one hits "Submit" and gets past this tricky "catchaty phrase" thing, one sees a screen indicating that an email was sent "with the following text"...and the text area is empty. And in reality no email is ever sent. My comment form is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bratzler/Comment%20Form.ht m. My template form is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bratzler/maillist.tmp Help! Thisis the first time I have ever tried anything like this. Thanks in advance from Bob in snowy Boston.

I am trying to set up MailMerge to send user email comments to me from my website without success. The form is displayed properly on my web site. But when one hits "Submit" and gets past this tricky "catchaty phrase" thing, one sees a screen indicating that an email was sent "with the following text"...and the text area is empty. And in reality no email is ever sent. My comment form is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bratzler/Comment%20Form.ht m. My template form is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bratzler/maillist.tmp Help! Thisis the first time I have ever tried anything like this. Thanks in advance from Bob in snowy Boston.

At 05:33 PM 2/1/2011, you wrote: >I probably should have said, I replace the directory/nabbar.gif but >never got/get as far as putting <div class="hr"></div> onto any >page. As soon as I put in the directory/nabbar.gif and look at one >of my previously-written in-use pages, the centermost color has >disappeared. Am I not making the link correctly? > >In the CSS, the line was background-image: >url("../tutorials/images/nabbar.jpg"); > >I replace it with background-image: url("../_includes/nabbar.jpg"); What is that entire style rule?? No it sounds like you are replacing the background image of the page itself with the new image. pat

I probably should have said, I replace the directory/nabbar.gif but never got/get as far as putting <div class="hr"></div> onto any page. As soon as I put in the directory/nabbar.gif and look at one of my previously-written in-use pages, the centermost color has disappeared. Am I not making the link correctly? In the CSS, the line was background-image: url("../tutorials/images/nabbar.jpg"); I replace it with background-image: url("../_includes/nabbar.jpg"); Judy

At 01:31 PM 2/1/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >The first thing I don't understand is, if it is a "hr" line as a graphic, >why does that line say background-image: url ? Doesn't background-image >refer to the all-over page color? Could someone explain the meaning of this >line and how it means "use this line graphic for an hr" if it also says >background-image? ============ If I remember correctly, this used a graphic image for the horizontal line tag at some point so this style rule was created div.hr { background-image: url("../tutorials/images/nabbar.jpg"); background-position: center center; background-repeat: no-repeat; display: block; height: 14px; margin: auto; width: 385px; } which would be written in the html code like so <div class="hr"></div> and would place the image in the center of the div where it was used background-image refers to the background image of whatever style rule it goes with. So #container { margin: 20px auto 20px auto; width: 95%; /* decrease width to add more padding to outer layer*/; background: #D7C7D2 url('images/ourlordbkg.jpg'); padding: 10px; border: #AE8DA4 3px ridge; } means the background image used for the container will be ourlordbkg.jpg and #inner { margin: 20px auto 20px auto; width: 90%; background-image: url('images/offwhite.jpg'); padding: 10px; border: 2px ridge #999999; } the background image for the innver div would be offwhite.jpg. If used correctly, the div with the class hr should have no effect at all on any of the other divs. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/

At 01:45 PM 2/1/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >When a site uses an External CSS, does an "include" need a link to >the stylesheet? > >If an "include" does need the link, why doesn't a link to it in an "include" >double the efforts of a link to the stylesheet used on every page? It seems >logical that 2 links (1 in the include and 1 in the page - both to the >stylesheet) would conflict or duplicate the CSS. > >If an "include" doesn't need the link, why does removing the stylesheet link >on an "include" page then remove the CSS from pages that use that "include"? > >The includes involved are: >1. My top/banner info. >2. My search area right under the banner include. =========== No link needed on the include as all that is used is the info between the opening and closing body tag so whatever you might include in the head section will be discarded. pat