Kim, What file extensions did you configure the server on your local machine to check for includes directives? .html? .shtml? .htm? or possibly all files? Lorrie On 02/13/11 13:06, Kim Mills wrote: > Ok I've given up for now trying to get my local server to show the includes files. Very frustrating but they just will not show. I also downloaded the newest WAMP to see if that was the problem. No luck... (sigh) > > Anyway I put my templates into a test site on rootsweb. I'm having trouble getting the includes to pick up the css. > > This is how the sidebar links should look. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/test/Test2/ > > And no I don't have dreamweaver :) a friend made the template for me when I thought my program might have been causing the includes errors. > Anyway once I move the menu to an includes the formatting looks like this: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/test/index.html > > All I had done was copy the same menu links in the index.html file and put them into a txt file for the includes. > The code in the index to call the menu is > <div class="sidebar1"> > <!--#include virtual="includes/leftmenu.txt" --> > <!-- end .sidebar1 --></div> > > and the code in the includes is: > <div id="sidebar1">Site Navigation</div> > <ul id="nav"> > <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li> > <li><a href="#">Link two</a></li> > <li><a href="#">Link three</a></li> > <li><a href="#">Link four</a></li> > </ul> > > I must be over looking something simple. I need them to pick up the styling like they did before moving the code to the includes. So then I can finish editing the css to get the colors/look I want. > > Any help is much appreciated! > > Kim > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3441 - Release Date: 02/13/11 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ok I've given up for now trying to get my local server to show the includes files. Very frustrating but they just will not show. I also downloaded the newest WAMP to see if that was the problem. No luck... (sigh) Anyway I put my templates into a test site on rootsweb. I'm having trouble getting the includes to pick up the css. This is how the sidebar links should look. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/test/Test2/ And no I don't have dreamweaver :) a friend made the template for me when I thought my program might have been causing the includes errors. Anyway once I move the menu to an includes the formatting looks like this: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/test/index.html All I had done was copy the same menu links in the index.html file and put them into a txt file for the includes. The code in the index to call the menu is <div class="sidebar1"> <!--#include virtual="includes/leftmenu.txt" --> <!-- end .sidebar1 --></div> and the code in the includes is: <div id="sidebar1">Site Navigation</div> <ul id="nav"> <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li> <li><a href="#">Link two</a></li> <li><a href="#">Link three</a></li> <li><a href="#">Link four</a></li> </ul> I must be over looking something simple. I need them to pick up the styling like they did before moving the code to the includes. So then I can finish editing the css to get the colors/look I want. Any help is much appreciated! Kim ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3441 - Release Date: 02/13/11

Yes you can do that by installing WAMP. http://www.wampserver.com/en/ I have it installed on my pc for testing my websites. But I was having trouble getting the includes to show up. I'll be playing with it again this afternoon, hopefully will have better luck! Kim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> >> >> Would it be possible to install Apache, or some part, on a home computer >> so the includes would work locally? >> > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3441 - Release Date: 02/13/11

I forgot to mention that Barry's javascript method will work, too. I played with it sometime ago to determine if it could be used for more a small project I had and more complex operations such as conditional statements and variables but it has it's limits. If you go beyond using simple includes directives, it breaks because of the multitude of forward and back slashes, quotes and such. Otherwise it will work well for what you are doing. Lorrie On 02/13/11 10:07, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > You can install Apache on your computer. That is how I work in my sites > without having to upload often to view them. There is another way but it > requires a little extra work on your part. Create a copy of you template > but instead of using includes directives use the actual code. Make sure > the nav, header or whatever html code is exactly like the code in the > include files. Name it something like working_demo or live_demo. > > Work in that file, say in the nav or header, and view the changes on > your local computer. When you have finalized the changes, copy and paste > the code from the demo file nav, header or whatever into the appropriate > nclude file. This will require that you have two copies of your includes > and that you keep them both up to date so as not to cause confusion. > > Lorrie > > On 02/13/11 07:26, Billie Walsh wrote: >> On 02/12/2011 11:41 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> The #include code is effectively a comment in your HTML and will not show >>> locally (unless you are fortunate enough to have a local Apache server). >> This is something I've been wondering about. >> >> Would it be possible to install Apache, or some part, on a home computer >> so the includes would work locally? >> >> I realize that it would probably be overkill, but would make trouble >> shooting easier. And, take some load off the Rootsweb servers when your >> constantly uploading and checking to see if your latest change works. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can install Apache on your computer. That is how I work in my sites without having to upload often to view them. There is another way but it requires a little extra work on your part. Create a copy of you template but instead of using includes directives use the actual code. Make sure the nav, header or whatever html code is exactly like the code in the include files. Name it something like working_demo or live_demo. Work in that file, say in the nav or header, and view the changes on your local computer. When you have finalized the changes, copy and paste the code from the demo file nav, header or whatever into the appropriate nclude file. This will require that you have two copies of your includes and that you keep them both up to date so as not to cause confusion. Lorrie On 02/13/11 07:26, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 02/12/2011 11:41 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: >> The #include code is effectively a comment in your HTML and will not show >> locally (unless you are fortunate enough to have a local Apache server). > This is something I've been wondering about. > > Would it be possible to install Apache, or some part, on a home computer > so the includes would work locally? > > I realize that it would probably be overkill, but would make trouble > shooting easier. And, take some load off the Rootsweb servers when your > constantly uploading and checking to see if your latest change works. >

On 02/12/2011 11:41 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > The #include code is effectively a comment in your HTML and will not show > locally (unless you are fortunate enough to have a local Apache server). This is something I've been wondering about. Would it be possible to install Apache, or some part, on a home computer so the includes would work locally? I realize that it would probably be overkill, but would make trouble shooting easier. And, take some load off the Rootsweb servers when your constantly uploading and checking to see if your latest change works. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

At 12:41 AM 2/13/2011, Barry Carlson wrote: >There is another way to view your #includes when working with the file >locally, and that is encode the content of the include using Javascript. You >do not load the Javascript file to the server, but it makes your page look >OK when viewing it locally. > >Now, I should have a link to the method somewhere (I dreamt it up), but will >get back to you when I find it. ============= Scroll to bottom http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/server-side-includes.htm Thanks to Barry. pat

I recently put my family website up on Ancestry's freewebs, its just a basic page generated by RootsMagic. I would like to change this to have a nicer main page and other area's for content, linking to my surname pages etc. Easy enough for me to do. But I would like to set up includes so my header and left side menu are the same on all pages. I have a WAMP local host set up, as I'm used to using wordpress and joomla. Mostly tweaking css to suit what I need. I don't have much experience working with non cms websites. Anyway I've been sitting here all evening trying to get the includes to work. I can't even get them to show up. LOL I've been over every tut on the genealogy websites I can find, I've checked out a few others for general websites. I think I need includes for dummies. LOL :-P I did find a good video tutorial but it was for PHP includes and I don't think that will work on the freewebs?? Basically what I have done is on my local host I have my site folder. Inside that I have my index.htm and style sheet. I have a folder named _includes Inside that I made a txt file with a basic menu links, no styling yet. I've only put one link in, I wanted to see how they look before adding everything. <ul id="nav"> <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li> <li><a href="#">Link two</a></li> <li><a href="#">Link three</a></li> <li><a href="#">Link four</a></li> </ul> Then I go to my web editor I'm using KompoZer right now. I enter the code <!--#include virtual="_includes/left-menu.txt" --> and nothing shows up, either in the web editor or on my local host view. I've tried different paths to the left-menu.txt file so far no luck with any of them... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Kim ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3439 - Release Date: 02/12/11

accidently lost my guestbook on freepages when i try to restore it from the help page i get oops page stating  does not recognize title or page is already registered need help connfamily freepages

Dear Pat Many thanks for being so generous, giving us access to your http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html Kind regards Ann Spiro Western Australia

On Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:11 AM (UTC+13) Lorrie wrote; > I'll work on that. Randy fixed the problem with the footer in my page. > The cause was a conflict between my styles and those of rootsweb, as I > suspected. Your comments confirm that. Thanks. > -------------------- Lorrie Yes, I noticed that Randy added - margin:0; padding:0; to the #fp_ftr styles. The bold link text was caused by your generic a:link style, and as mentioned in an earler email can easily be fixed, e.g. /* --Links-- */ .container a:link { font-weight:bold; } .container a:visited { color:purple; font-weight:bold; } The double image probem has come about through some other style that you are using in a table - somewhere? Don't worry about it, because it revealled an accidental double style in the footer CSS. The image had been inserted as a background into the lefthand table cell, and the image had been made clickable by using - a {display:block; width:?px; height:?px;} The styles for the .gif image and the link were then combined. Unfortunately that meant the image was loaded twice, and the problem was revealled when another style moved one a few px. Randy has been sent some updated CSS, and the problems mentioned should soon be solved. Barry

Thank you, Pat!  I am looking now, and surely need the help.  How generous of you! Kathie B. --- On Tue, 2/8/11, Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net> wrote: From: Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] Planning a Genealogy Website To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 11:33 AM For anyone who may be interested, I've just updated and added new material to Planning a Genealogy Website (2nd edition). If interested, you can see the table of contents and download the Ebook which is F REE. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html Perhaps I shuld have asked first if this was OK to post but am in a rush to finish up as I am leaving town for a couple of days. The book is in pdf format zipped for faster download. Let me know if you have any problems. pat

Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry® smartphone -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com Sender: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:00:29 To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 6, Issue 31 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html Today's Topics: 1. Distorted Pages (Beverly Watson) 2. Re: Distorted Pages (J.A. Florian) 3. Re: Distorted Pages (Lorrie Laskey) 4. Re: Distorted Pages (Pat Geary) 5. Re: Distorted Pages (Beverly Watson) 6. Re: Distorted Pages (J.A. Florian) 7. Re: Distorted Pages (Barry Carlson) 8. Re: Distorted Pages (Lorrie Laskey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 05:09:02 -0600 From: Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <COL104-W32350C350A0F2D32054C9D8BED0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. Beverly ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:41:47 -0500 From: "J.A. Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com> Cc: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTinb-iwNGb0yOcR4uN3j2E1M6g3nedsv2mN_vKZW@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beverly, The top banner looks for the opening html and opening body tag. The top banner looks for the closing /body tag and closing /html tag. If one or both sets are doubled, 2 banners get inserted (top or bottom -- or both can be affected). If one or both sets are missing a tag, the placement of the banner gets messed up. The banner inserts at a place (top or bottom banner) that makes the most sense to it, remembering "it" is only coding that can't think -- it just does what it was programmed (or coded) to do. I think I've read on this list that other problems in a page can affect banner placement, too. I've also read that if using Frames, RW banners will appear in every frame (box). So, look in your HTML first. Make sure your HEAD tags (open, close), body tags (open, close), and HTML tags (open, close) are all present, and where they should be. If you run your code through the HTML validator at http://validator.w3.org/ it will tell you if the page has problems. Lastly, post the URLs of problem pages so people on the List can look at your code and help. Judy On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com> wrote: > > Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last > few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now > about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my > website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only > assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. > > Beverly > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 10:19:37 -0600 From: Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D52BE99.3090301@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Beverly and list, Mine is doing the same thing. I noted this a few weeks ago but assumed I had caused it. Does your bottom banner look like mine. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> I wonder if other sites displaying the same behavior. Lorrie On 02/09/11 05:09, Beverly Watson wrote: > Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. > > Beverly > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 11:59:59 -0500 From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com>, <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <201102091700.p19H04Lp025355@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:09 AM 2/9/2011, Beverly Watson wrote: >Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in >the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the >page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that >several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I >haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner >has been the cause of this. > Mine appear to be displaying just fine, banner on top and bottom flush with top of browser window. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/ pat ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:04:32 -0600 From: Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: <pat@the-gearys.com>, <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <COL104-W56D83DCFAC836E1CA3177E8BED0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat, I had responded earlier to Lorrie's note but forgot to address to the list as well. See below, I am no longer having issues with the banner. Lorrie, No, I see that the Ancestry logo on your footer appears to have a shadow. The footer on my pages was about 1/4 inch above the bottom of the page, but I have since discovered that it must have something to do with the settings on my browser because now from my computer at work, my website is still just as it's supposed to be - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~watsonbev/ (I'm adding the link but there doesn't seem to be anything amiss now.) I have been having some browser issues at home and have been resetting various things and have set everything back to the original default settings, etc. Something about that must have caused the distortions to my website. Guess I'll go home and try to change my brower settings back to whatever they were before. Beverly Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:59:59 -0500 To: beverly_wat@msn.com; freepages-help@rootsweb.com From: pat@the-gearys.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages At 06:09 AM 2/9/2011, Beverly Watson wrote: Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. Mine appear to be displaying just fine, banner on top and bottom flush with top of browser window. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/ pat ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:07:25 -0500 From: "J.A. Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: Beverly Watson <beverly_wat@msn.com> Cc: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTinPDUw87oP4Fr8Jk5321qoZypv715Wi92krKB7e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:41 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Beverly, > > The top banner looks for the opening html and opening body tag. > > The top banner looks for the closing /body tag and closing /html tag. > == Ooops, I meant my 2nd sentence to say "The bottom banner..." Sorry if my typo caused any confusion. Judy ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:24:49 +1300 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: "Lorrie Laskey" <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net>, <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <377FB1BEC08646DBAA36B7CD7CA046E6@BERT> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original On Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19 AM (UTC+13) Lorrie wrote:- > Mine is doing the same thing. I noted this a few weeks ago but assumed I > had caused it. Does your bottom banner look like mine. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > I wonder if other sites displaying the same behavior. ---------------------- Lorrie, There is interaction with styles in the bottom banner from one or more of the 3 styles sheets you are using. Any of your <a> styles could be causing the "center center" problem with the Ancestry link image, and likewise with the bolding of the link text. I suggest you prefix any of those "a" styles with .container, or some other id/class that will keep them from being generic. Barry ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:11:07 -0600 From: Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages To: Barry Carlson <barrycarls@gmail.com> Cc: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D52F4DB.7050506@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Barry, I'll work on that. Randy fixed the problem with the footer in my page. The cause was a conflict between my styles and those of rootsweb, as I suspected. Your comments confirm that. Thanks. Lorrie On 02/09/11 13:24, Barry Carlson wrote: > On Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19 AM (UTC+13) > Lorrie wrote:- > >> Mine is doing the same thing. I noted this a few weeks ago but assumed I >> had caused it. Does your bottom banner look like mine. >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> >> >> I wonder if other sites displaying the same behavior. > ---------------------- > Lorrie, > > There is interaction with styles in the bottom banner from one or more > of the 3 styles sheets you are using. > > Any of your <a> styles could be causing the "center center" problem > with the Ancestry link image, and likewise with the bolding of the > link text. > > I suggest you prefix any of those "a" styles with .container, or some > other id/class that will keep them from being generic. > > Barry > ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. 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On Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19 AM (UTC+13) Lorrie wrote:- > Mine is doing the same thing. I noted this a few weeks ago but assumed I > had caused it. Does your bottom banner look like mine. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> > > I wonder if other sites displaying the same behavior. ---------------------- Lorrie, There is interaction with styles in the bottom banner from one or more of the 3 styles sheets you are using. Any of your <a> styles could be causing the "center center" problem with the Ancestry link image, and likewise with the bolding of the link text. I suggest you prefix any of those "a" styles with .container, or some other id/class that will keep them from being generic. Barry

Barry, I'll work on that. Randy fixed the problem with the footer in my page. The cause was a conflict between my styles and those of rootsweb, as I suspected. Your comments confirm that. Thanks. Lorrie On 02/09/11 13:24, Barry Carlson wrote: > On Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:19 AM (UTC+13) > Lorrie wrote:- > >> Mine is doing the same thing. I noted this a few weeks ago but assumed I >> had caused it. Does your bottom banner look like mine. >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ >> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> >> >> I wonder if other sites displaying the same behavior. > ---------------------- > Lorrie, > > There is interaction with styles in the bottom banner from one or more > of the 3 styles sheets you are using. > > Any of your <a> styles could be causing the "center center" problem > with the Ancestry link image, and likewise with the bolding of the > link text. > > I suggest you prefix any of those "a" styles with .container, or some > other id/class that will keep them from being generic. > > Barry >

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:41 AM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Beverly, > > The top banner looks for the opening html and opening body tag. > > The top banner looks for the closing /body tag and closing /html tag. > == Ooops, I meant my 2nd sentence to say "The bottom banner..." Sorry if my typo caused any confusion. Judy

At 06:09 AM 2/9/2011, Beverly Watson wrote: >Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in >the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the >page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that >several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I >haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner >has been the cause of this. > Mine appear to be displaying just fine, banner on top and bottom flush with top of browser window. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/ pat

Pat, I had responded earlier to Lorrie's note but forgot to address to the list as well. See below, I am no longer having issues with the banner. Lorrie, No, I see that the Ancestry logo on your footer appears to have a shadow. The footer on my pages was about 1/4 inch above the bottom of the page, but I have since discovered that it must have something to do with the settings on my browser because now from my computer at work, my website is still just as it's supposed to be - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~watsonbev/ (I'm adding the link but there doesn't seem to be anything amiss now.) I have been having some browser issues at home and have been resetting various things and have set everything back to the original default settings, etc. Something about that must have caused the distortions to my website. Guess I'll go home and try to change my brower settings back to whatever they were before. Beverly Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:59:59 -0500 To: beverly_wat@msn.com; freepages-help@rootsweb.com From: pat@the-gearys.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Distorted Pages At 06:09 AM 2/9/2011, Beverly Watson wrote: Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. Mine appear to be displaying just fine, banner on top and bottom flush with top of browser window. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/ pat

Beverly and list, Mine is doing the same thing. I noted this a few weeks ago but assumed I had caused it. Does your bottom banner look like mine. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~docex/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edocex/> I wonder if other sites displaying the same behavior. Lorrie On 02/09/11 05:09, Beverly Watson wrote: > Has Rootsweb made changes to the banner at the foot of the page in the last few days? It had previously been at the very bottom of the page, but is now about 1/4 inch above the bottom and I find that several of the pages in my website has become distorted. Since I haven't made any changes I can only assume the change to the banner has been the cause of this. > > Beverly > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:46 AM (UTC+13) Lorrie wrote:- > I would like to know: > > * clarification regarding how one image with five images can be > separated? > * are you putting this code with an include? > * in the head? > * where the final css values end up being served ----------------------------- Lorrie, The image being used is at:- <http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/xhr/images/browser_logos-128.png> It is 705px x 132px and is being used as a background within a 132px x 132px div. You should be able to see a #aaa border round the div. As all 5 logos are in the image, it is just a matter of positioning the appropriate one to be in view - browser dependant. The Includes are located in the head before the styles. Position data is being echoed into the styles, e.g. background: url('images/browser_logos-128.png') no-repeat <!--#echo var="cSS" -->; - and the required logo will be placed in view. The page has been updated with the addition of a few more tags (they do nothing, but I've been getting lazy with HTML5!) The "else" condition has been used to move the image out of view if none of the major browsers are detected. http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/xhr/ssi-test.html So that it is obvious to all, I'll copy the source code below:- <!doctype html> <html> <head> <meta charset=utf-8> <title>SSI Test UA</title> <!--#set var="uA" value="$HTTP_USER_AGENT" --> <!--#if expr="($uA=/MSIE/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-565px 0" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Firefox/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-154px 0" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Opera/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-290px 0" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Chrome/)&&($uA=/afari/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-10px 0" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Safari/)&&($uA!=/hrome/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-422px 2px" --> <!--#elif expr="($uA=/Mac/)" --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="-422px 2px" --> <!--#else --> <!--#set var="cSS" value="0 -135px" --> <!--#endif --> <style> body { background:#ac9; } #logo { margin:150px auto; width:132px; height:132px; border:solid 1px #aaa; background: url('images/browser_logos-128.png') no-repeat <!--#echo var="cSS" -->; } #fp_ftr { position:absolute; bottom:0; } </style> </head> <body> <p><!--#echo var='cSS' --></p> <div id="logo"></div> </body> </html> As the image is .png, its background will not be transparent in IE6 and earlier. A .gif image could be provided. Barry