Barry, I understand. I guess I am not asking the question correctly because I am not getting an answer. I'll try again. :-) Is there only one set of these directories such as misc, computers, history, military and such and they are used by all accounts? Or does each account, my docex account, have their own set of these very same directories? I am not quite understanding how an account holder can choose to upload an web page, say index.html, to a directory outside of their account without some connection to that account holder's account? Lorrie On 02/16/11 15:09, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > Each ~account is a sub directory of the community being used. > > Barry > > On 17/02/2011 10:06 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> Barry, >> >> So who owns these directories? Each account holder, say my account? Or >> is there only one misc dir, one computers and so on and they are shared >> by all account holders? >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 02/16/11 15:03, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> Lorrie, >>> >>> The root directory for freepages is:- >>> >>> http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ >>> >>> It has also been assigned a directory name of misc_html, and the only >>> difference from an URL point of view, is as its the root directory, it >>> can be addressed as above, or using misc. The other communities, >>> computers, military, history etc.. require to be addressed as such, and >>> it is not possible to address another community using a relative path >>> from another. They must be addressed using an absolute path. >>> >>> Barry >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pamela, I don't understand your exact concern but to clarify: 1. "freepages" allows only ONE "account" (~youraccount) 2. "freepages" has, I think, 9 "categories" -- each acts as a separate "website" BUT ALSO (see #3) 3. You can cross-link all of the category websites into 1 bigger "website" 4. If you use the "miscellaneous" (misc) category, your URL will be shorter and "misc" can act as the "main page" for all the category websites. For example, I use the categories of family, genealogy, school-alumni, religions, and misc. Others on this List told me I could use the "misc" site to make it easier for visitors because "misc" has the shorter URL. See http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ As you see, on that page I give the URLs for each freepages category that I use (plus one account I have on the "rootsweb" server). As well as giving links to all my "sites", I also USE the misc website for a different type of content. So in effect, I have 5 "webs" in freepages by using the different "categories" they offer. I don't remember all the other ones, but 2 others off the top of my head are "nostalgia" and "military". You can make a pretty big overall "site" just using the freepages "categories" offered in each person's (one-only) account. So you might want to check it out a bit more before feeling disappointed or frustrated about the account name you requested. Judy On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Pam Orcutt <pamelaorcutt@ymail.com> wrote: > When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one free > account > I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do I do > that? > > Pamela Orcutt >

At 02:51 PM 2/16/2011, Ian Singer wrote: >But is there not a facility to contact customer care and ask them to >change the account name, or to cancel the account so that a more >appropriate name can be selected?? ============= I doubt it since it is clearly states in the agreement you have to agree to before the account is granted. NOTE: Limit one FREEPAGES account per user. You may NOT use a FREEPAGES account for file storage. Do NOT upload MP3, zip, mpg, avi, ram files, etc. as your account will be closed. PLEASE NOTE: Your account name will become part of your URL, as in http://freepages.communityname.rootsweb.com/~acctname/. Account name must be at least 4 characters long and must consist only of lower case letters and numbers, but may not begin with a number. No spaces or characters (such as - _ / . ') are allowed. Select your account name carefully as names of accounts can NOT be changed and you may not close an account and open a new one. When I first started my account, it was for genealogy. I later moved it to paid hosting. While I still had the freepages account, the focus of the site changed. So gearyfamily which worked when I started was changed to reflect genealogy computer tips for rootsweb users. Which is why users are told to consider carefully the name they choose. Pat G.

Thanks to Barry and all for the tips about creating the shortest url. I have a simple index page in my genealogy folder that links all my content. I just opened that in notepad and converted the relative links to absolute ones and uploaded that and my include file to the misc folder. Now I can use a really short url to drop visitors into my site. Rose Lee Wall

Barry, So who owns these directories? Each account holder, say my account? Or is there only one misc dir, one computers and so on and they are shared by all account holders? Lorrie On 02/16/11 15:03, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > The root directory for freepages is:- > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ > > It has also been assigned a directory name of misc_html, and the only > difference from an URL point of view, is as its the root directory, it > can be addressed as above, or using misc. The other communities, > computers, military, history etc.. require to be addressed as such, and > it is not possible to address another community using a relative path > from another. They must be addressed using an absolute path. > > Barry > > > > On 17/02/2011 9:52 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> Barry and all, >> >> I never quite understood the structure of the various rw directories >> available to account holders nor how to use them. Are you stating that >> each account holder has a misc, genealogy and other directories at their >> disposal that comes with their account or, that there are only one each >> of those directories and account holders share them? Please explain. >> >> What are the pros and cons of using several directories vs one? >> >> Lorrie >> >> >> >> On 02/16/11 14:46, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> Lorrie, >>> >>> Judy has created an index page and loaded it to her misc_html directory. >>> Do that, and create links to index pages on any of the other communities. >>> >>> Barry >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Barry and all, I never quite understood the structure of the various rw directories available to account holders nor how to use them. Are you stating that each account holder has a misc, genealogy and other directories at their disposal that comes with their account or, that there are only one each of those directories and account holders share them? Please explain. What are the pros and cons of using several directories vs one? Lorrie On 02/16/11 14:46, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > Judy has created an index page and loaded it to her misc_html directory. > Do that, and create links to index pages on any of the other communities. > > Barry > > On 17/02/2011 9:31 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> How does this work? The link opens Judy's site but when I substitute my >> site's name for "florian", the page is directed to a general index page >> with my url. Selecting the "parent directory" link opens the "Freepages: >> Free Unlimited Web Space" page. >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 02/16/11 14:19, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> Judy, >>> >>> if you want the shortest url, it is:- >>> >>> http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~florian/ >>> >>> Try it yourself. >>> >>> Barry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 2/16/2011 2:14 PM, Pat Asher wrote: > At 01:45 PM 2/16/2011, Pam Orcutt wrote: >> When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one >> free account >> I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do >> I do that? > > Pam, > > The Freepages agreement states that each user may have only one > account, and that account names can NOT be changed. See > > http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freeacct.htm&agree=1 > > > Pat Asher But is there not a facility to contact customer care and ask them to change the account name, or to cancel the account so that a more appropriate name can be selected?? There can not be many companies that would be so rigid that they would deny a reasonable request. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

How does this work? The link opens Judy's site but when I substitute my site's name for "florian", the page is directed to a general index page with my url. Selecting the "parent directory" link opens the "Freepages: Free Unlimited Web Space" page. Lorrie On 02/16/11 14:19, Barry Carlson wrote: > Judy, > > if you want the shortest url, it is:- > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > > Try it yourself. > > Barry > > > > On 17/02/2011 9:15 a.m., J.A. Florian wrote: >> Others on this List told me I could use the "misc" >> site to make it easier for visitors because "misc" has the shorter URL. >> See http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ >> As you see, on that page I give the URLs for each freepages category that I >> use (plus one account I have on the "rootsweb" server). >> As well as giving links to all my "sites", I also USE the misc website for a >> different type of content. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 01:45 PM 2/16/2011, Pam Orcutt wrote: >When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one >free account >I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do >I do that? Pam, The Freepages agreement states that each user may have only one account, and that account names can NOT be changed. See http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freeacct.htm&agree=1 Pat Asher

They are likely not in the business to be selling but rather luring you into clicking onto their links. Doing so serves a purpose for them either for rankings or worse, searching for targets for malware and viruses. It's good to remember there is usually a motive for everything you find on the Internet, even if it looks to be a mistake. This is my two cents. Ron Yates http://alturl.com/3aada -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Dobie Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:25 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Crawl Errors -- links used by / in Link farms I just noticed a similar thing yesterday when I googled "William Lovell Dobie" (with the quotes) to see if my father's name appears in Google Books. I was returned four pages of "hits" but all of them are phony except for the first four links on the first page. Most of these websites don't seem to be selling anything but are just a jumble of text, links and photos which are meaningless. They seem to have grabbed stuff from hundreds of real websites and mashed them all together. Chas. Dobie

I just noticed a similar thing yesterday when I googled "William Lovell Dobie" (with the quotes) to see if my father's name appears in Google Books. I was returned four pages of "hits" but all of them are phony except for the first four links on the first page. Most of these websites don't seem to be selling anything but are just a jumble of text, links and photos which are meaningless. They seem to have grabbed stuff from hundreds of real websites and mashed them all together. Chas. Dobie At 09:29 AM 2/16/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >Not sure I'm using the right words to explain this... > >I use Google Webmaster Tools. One area it shows are Crawl Errors. The >table/list gives the link URL of my page, then a number for how many pages >show that URL as a crawl error. This tool is supposed to give a webmaster >an easy to view list of errors, so the webmaster can fix the error. > >Today, none of the crawl errors are internal errors (i.e. on my site). >Instead, an outside site created an error by PARTLY using some of my content >PLUS the link URL but with gibberish added so that the URL to MY >content/page is broken. It looks like it's deliberately broken, or the >party doesn't know how to write a webpage. > >Here is an example: > >http://islandparkchurch.org/pjr-hot-topic-boy.html > >More than half-way down that page is a photo of 2 boys stuck randomly into >an unrelated sentence. Hovering over the picture, you get >http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/camps/camp_boys-friends_cr.jpg%22%20width=%2236%22%20height=%2250%22%20alt=%22image%22/%3E%3C/a%3E%3Ca%20href=%22/m/imgres?q=hot+topic+boy > > >Other sites doing this are hosting companies (small ones), I guess as an >attempt to increase their ranking?? > >I called the church one and told them because the "boy" links on their >page get kinda rauchy. > >But, how do I deal with the rest of them? Or, do I let it go? Are the >other websites and the broken links they made hurting my website in Google's >eyes? > >Judy > > > >-- >-- >WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: >http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ >Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3447 - Release Date: 02/16/11 Charles Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com

At 12:10 PM 2/16/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >Would Randy consider writing a htaccess file for the "root" that >allows the good bots such as for indexing, while disallowing the bad >harvesting bots? ============ You might have to ask Randy or the Help desk about that. I do know that one of the GenWeb sites, hosted on another server has had a major problem with hacking of sites. They made changes to the .htacess file to stop it. Have no idea what the answer is. Pat G.

You may be right that their site was hijacked. BUT the issue remains that malicious bots are 'grabbing' website URLs to put on Link Farms. >From my research today, apparently the nasty-bots can be stopped or slowed down at the server / root level. I was reading about it here: http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_stop_automated_spam-bots_using_.htaccess Would Randy consider writing a htaccess file for the "root" that allows the good bots such as for indexing, while disallowing the bad harvesting bots? This problem started around Feb 4th (esp on the "family" website). So I bet other freepages webmasters will also be affected at some point. If I wasn't using Google Webmaster Tools to see any Crawl Errors, I never would have known. From what I read, Google can penalize both the "Link Farm" as well as the webs that get linked to the farm. :-/ I don't like Link Farms... I also am annoyed that the links are broken as well. LOL -- I can't fix em! I did call the church headquaters. As well, several of these "Farms" are on servers at the "Host Gator" webhosting company. So I called Host Gator too for what they labeled as "malicious activity" by the websites. Most of the rest of the websites are from Canada or India. :-( Judy On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> wrote: > ============= > > Looks to me like their site has been hacked if I use the site: > islandparkchurch.org > and the listing of sites returned as an example. > > May be wrong but those are my thoughts. > > pat > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

On 16/02/2011 11:26 a.m., Jean McCarthy wrote: Hi. Thank you very much for your prompt response to my query. The URL to my site is in my signature line at the bottom of my emails, but here it is again. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ejeanmccarthy36/> > > All my old pages are still OK but it is the new pages that I have been > working on recently that has got the problem. I am transcribing the > 1851 Census index for Liverpool for Irish born people. The problem is > with the pages beginning with the surnames 'G' and I am now working on > surnames beginning with 'H'. > > This marathon task has been going on for five years now with still a > long way to go. It does not really matter about the colour of the > background as long as people can search for their ancestors. It is > just that up until now, I have kept all the pages of this very large > site uniform . > > I would dearly love to learn CSS but I am a bit nervous about it as I > could not face re-doing all of my site all over again, as it would > take years to do. I probably will not live long enough to finish the > 1851 census index as it is! (Grin) > > Very many thanks once again for your advice. > ------------------------- Sorry Jean - didn't get to the end of your first message. Starting with the - 1851 Liverpool/1851_g_h_i/1851_gallagher.htm - page, you have corrupted the <body> tag, and on this an subsequent pages you need to remove the current tag and contents and replace with:- <bodystylesrc="../../famgen.html" background="../../images/main_bg.gif" bgcolor="#FFFFC0" text="#800000"> Hope that helps. Barry

At 09:29 AM 2/16/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >Here is an example: > >http://islandparkchurch.org/pjr-hot-topic-boy.html > >More than half-way down that page is a photo of 2 boys stuck randomly into >an unrelated sentence. Hovering over the picture, you get >http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/camps/camp_boys-friends_cr.jpg%22%20width=%2236%22%20height=%2250%22%20alt=%22image%22/%3E%3C/a%3E%3Ca%20href=%22/m/imgres?q=hot+topic+boy > > >Other sites doing this are hosting companies (small ones ============= Looks to me like their site has been hacked if I use the site:islandparkchurch.org and the listing of sites returned as an example. May be wrong but those are my thoughts. pat

When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one free account I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do I do that? Pamela Orcutt

At 09:29 AM 2/16/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >Here is an example: > >http://islandparkchurch.org/pjr-hot-topic-boy.html > >More than half-way down that page is a photo of 2 boys stuck randomly into >an unrelated sentence. Hovering over the picture, you get >http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/camps/camp_boys-friends_cr.jpg%22%20width=%2236%22%20height=%2250%22%20alt=%22image%22/%3E%3C/a%3E%3Ca%20href=%22/m/imgres?q=hot+topic+boy > > >Other sites doing this are hosting companies (small ones ============= Looks to me like their site has been hacked if I use the site:islandparkchurch.org and the listing of sites returned as an example. May be wrong but those are my thoughts. pat

Not sure I'm using the right words to explain this... I use Google Webmaster Tools. One area it shows are Crawl Errors. The table/list gives the link URL of my page, then a number for how many pages show that URL as a crawl error. This tool is supposed to give a webmaster an easy to view list of errors, so the webmaster can fix the error. Today, none of the crawl errors are internal errors (i.e. on my site). Instead, an outside site created an error by PARTLY using some of my content PLUS the link URL but with gibberish added so that the URL to MY content/page is broken. It looks like it's deliberately broken, or the party doesn't know how to write a webpage. Here is an example: http://islandparkchurch.org/pjr-hot-topic-boy.html More than half-way down that page is a photo of 2 boys stuck randomly into an unrelated sentence. Hovering over the picture, you get http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/camps/camp_boys-friends_cr.jpg%22%20width=%2236%22%20height=%2250%22%20alt=%22image%22/%3E%3C/a%3E%3Ca%20href=%22/m/imgres?q=hot+topic+boy Other sites doing this are hosting companies (small ones), I guess as an attempt to increase their ranking?? I called the church one and told them because the "boy" links on their page get kinda rauchy. But, how do I deal with the rest of them? Or, do I let it go? Are the other websites and the broken links they made hurting my website in Google's eyes? Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

On 16/02/2011 8:51 a.m., Jean McCarthy wrote: > I wonder if it could be changes made at freepages? The reason I mention this > is that I am having the same problem but I don't use CSS. Just a thought. I > would like to know why it is suddenly happening to my pages. My background > colour is fine on my computer but when I upload the pages the background > changes to white. I have tried clearing my cache and have viewed it on other > computers too. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Very many > thanks in advance. > Jean, Will you let the list know the url of your page so that it can be checked out. Barry

Well http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ background is not white But when I clicked Enter Site then white flashed up but then it flashed back to the 'beige" ir cream However you are using Frames and they just don't work with Rootsweb the banner etc get messed up That is why many use CSS for navigation panels using Div tags Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-02-16 7:03 AM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Jean, > > Will you let the list know the url of your page so that it can be > checked out.