On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com > wrote: > I have a genealogy page but when I first created it I failed to put htm on > the end. How do I change it to htm? My webpage is below. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/ > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > Well, it's easy to switch pages to the html extension. BUT, the *.htm is NOT the same as *.html for indexing, meaning, one does not substitute for the other. So if your site is established in Google rank, you may drop for a few months or until Google re-indexes your site. What you do is: 1. If using a program, see if it has a place to make the default extension be html and set it 2. Open a htm page. Save As with the same name. (If that filename needs improved, this is as good a time as any to change the whole filename.) 3. Close the html page and re-open it. Check the content. REMEMER: Fix any links that point to htm to html This can get confusing because you'll be re-naming pages 1 by 1 and the htm ones contain the working links. Just remember on every html page you'll need to fix the links on it. 3b. This would be a good time to make an _include for repeated links used on all or many pages. 3c. This is a good time to check HEAD info to make sure all is correct. 3d. Make a site template (template,html) with your navigation (all using html extensions) 4. After you get the html page(s) made, it might be easiest to just delete the htm pages and take the 'hit' on your ranking, knowing your site will recover within a few months. Although that little 'l' is nice to look at, it does not make or break a website. My first site uses htm I left it alone because my pages had been indexed for over a year at that point. My other sites use html (just cos I like to see that little 'l' ;-) Judy

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Barry Carlson <barrycarls@gmail.com>wrote: > Judy, > > You can set each community up in FileZilla separately, and just select > the account you want from your accounts list. All other FTP utilities > will operate the same way. > > Barry > Yep, that's what I did. Filezilla makes it easier to upload each (unless, like me, someone occasionally upload "outside" of their public directory LOL). Judy

Yw`vbqhqqtge Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com Sender: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:34:24 To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 6, Issue 40 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html Today's Topics: 1. websites don't seem to be selling anything but are just a jumble of text.. (Ron Yates) 2. Re: (no subject) (Pat Asher) 3. Re: (no subject) (Ian Singer) 4. Re: (no subject) (Pat Geary) 5. Re: (no subject) (J.A. Florian) 6. Re: (no subject) (Barry Carlson) 7. Re: (no subject) (Wendy Howard) 8. Re: (no subject) (Lorrie Laskey) 9. Re: (no subject) (Pat Asher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:44:05 -0500 From: Ron Yates <ron@yatesville.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] websites don't seem to be selling anything but are just a jumble of text.. To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46A7952A88F046B7858B22F355EB8916@Delldt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They are likely not in the business to be selling but rather luring you into clicking onto their links. Doing so serves a purpose for them either for rankings or worse, searching for targets for malware and viruses. It's good to remember there is usually a motive for everything you find on the Internet, even if it looks to be a mistake. This is my two cents. Ron Yates http://alturl.com/3aada -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Dobie Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:25 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Crawl Errors -- links used by / in Link farms I just noticed a similar thing yesterday when I googled "William Lovell Dobie" (with the quotes) to see if my father's name appears in Google Books. I was returned four pages of "hits" but all of them are phony except for the first four links on the first page. Most of these websites don't seem to be selling anything but are just a jumble of text, links and photos which are meaningless. They seem to have grabbed stuff from hundreds of real websites and mashed them all together. Chas. Dobie ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:14:44 -0500 From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: Pam Orcutt <pamelaorcutt@ymail.com> Cc: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <672519.15709.qm@smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:45 PM 2/16/2011, Pam Orcutt wrote: >When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one >free account >I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do >I do that? Pam, The Freepages agreement states that each user may have only one account, and that account names can NOT be changed. See http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freeacct.htm&agree=1 Pat Asher ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:20 -0500 From: Ian Singer <ian@iansinger.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D5C2AB8.7040309@iansinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 2/16/2011 2:14 PM, Pat Asher wrote: > At 01:45 PM 2/16/2011, Pam Orcutt wrote: >> When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one >> free account >> I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do >> I do that? > > Pam, > > The Freepages agreement states that each user may have only one > account, and that account names can NOT be changed. See > > http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freeacct.htm&agree=1 > > > Pat Asher But is there not a facility to contact customer care and ask them to change the account name, or to cancel the account so that a more appropriate name can be selected?? There can not be many companies that would be so rigid that they would deny a reasonable request. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:15:36 -0500 From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <201102162015.p1GKFdWe031348@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:51 PM 2/16/2011, Ian Singer wrote: >But is there not a facility to contact customer care and ask them to >change the account name, or to cancel the account so that a more >appropriate name can be selected?? ============= I doubt it since it is clearly states in the agreement you have to agree to before the account is granted. NOTE: Limit one FREEPAGES account per user. You may NOT use a FREEPAGES account for file storage. Do NOT upload MP3, zip, mpg, avi, ram files, etc. as your account will be closed. PLEASE NOTE: Your account name will become part of your URL, as in http://freepages.communityname.rootsweb.com/~acctname/. Account name must be at least 4 characters long and must consist only of lower case letters and numbers, but may not begin with a number. No spaces or characters (such as - _ / . ') are allowed. Select your account name carefully as names of accounts can NOT be changed and you may not close an account and open a new one. When I first started my account, it was for genealogy. I later moved it to paid hosting. While I still had the freepages account, the focus of the site changed. So gearyfamily which worked when I started was changed to reflect genealogy computer tips for rootsweb users. Which is why users are told to consider carefully the name they choose. Pat G. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:15:41 -0500 From: "J.A. Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: Pam Orcutt <pamelaorcutt@ymail.com> Cc: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTindwLX61m11BVSROtZ7+KkZYpZK=wr41m1YaHix@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pamela, I don't understand your exact concern but to clarify: 1. "freepages" allows only ONE "account" (~youraccount) 2. "freepages" has, I think, 9 "categories" -- each acts as a separate "website" BUT ALSO (see #3) 3. You can cross-link all of the category websites into 1 bigger "website" 4. If you use the "miscellaneous" (misc) category, your URL will be shorter and "misc" can act as the "main page" for all the category websites. For example, I use the categories of family, genealogy, school-alumni, religions, and misc. Others on this List told me I could use the "misc" site to make it easier for visitors because "misc" has the shorter URL. See http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ As you see, on that page I give the URLs for each freepages category that I use (plus one account I have on the "rootsweb" server). As well as giving links to all my "sites", I also USE the misc website for a different type of content. So in effect, I have 5 "webs" in freepages by using the different "categories" they offer. I don't remember all the other ones, but 2 others off the top of my head are "nostalgia" and "military". You can make a pretty big overall "site" just using the freepages "categories" offered in each person's (one-only) account. So you might want to check it out a bit more before feeling disappointed or frustrated about the account name you requested. Judy On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Pam Orcutt <pamelaorcutt@ymail.com> wrote: > When I requested my free page I thought I could have more than one free > account > I need to rename my account reflecting that I have only one. How do I do > that? > > Pamela Orcutt > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:19:52 +1300 From: Barry Carlson <barrycarls@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D5C3168.4010505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Judy, if you want the shortest url, it is:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Try it yourself. Barry On 17/02/2011 9:15 a.m., J.A. Florian wrote: > Others on this List told me I could use the "misc" > site to make it easier for visitors because "misc" has the shorter URL. > See http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > As you see, on that page I give the URLs for each freepages category that I > use (plus one account I have on the "rootsweb" server). > As well as giving links to all my "sites", I also USE the misc website for a > different type of content. > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:28:04 +1300 From: Wendy Howard <wendy.howard@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D5C3354.3030105@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Judy said: > 4. If you use the "miscellaneous" (misc) category, your URL will be shorter > and "misc" can act as the "main page" for all the category websites. > > For example ... http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Even better, if you use the "misc" folder to hold your main index.htm(l) file you don't have to put it in the URL - for example, http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/> takes you to http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/index.htm I use that as my "home" page, with links on it going to other pages. Kind Regards, Wendy ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:31:18 -0600 From: Lorrie Laskey <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D5C3416.4040908@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How does this work? The link opens Judy's site but when I substitute my site's name for "florian", the page is directed to a general index page with my url. Selecting the "parent directory" link opens the "Freepages: Free Unlimited Web Space" page. Lorrie On 02/16/11 14:19, Barry Carlson wrote: > Judy, > > if you want the shortest url, it is:- > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > > Try it yourself. > > Barry > > > > On 17/02/2011 9:15 a.m., J.A. Florian wrote: >> Others on this List told me I could use the "misc" >> site to make it easier for visitors because "misc" has the shorter URL. >> See http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ >> As you see, on that page I give the URLs for each freepages category that I >> use (plus one account I have on the "rootsweb" server). >> As well as giving links to all my "sites", I also USE the misc website for a >> different type of content. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:34:21 -0500 From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] (no subject) To: Ian Singer <ian@iansinger.com> Cc: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <426331.98720.qm@smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:51 PM 2/16/2011, Ian Singer wrote: >But is there not a facility to contact customer care and ask them to >change the account name, or to cancel the account so that a more >appropriate name can be selected?? Ian, The Freepages agreement is a CONTRACT, signed by the person requesting the account. As Pat Geary pointed out, the requester must agree to the terms of the contract before the account is granted. Pat Asher ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 6, Issue 40 *********************************************

One "Con" about all of this: With using more than 1 "community", each one has to be uploaded (ftp'd) separately. So your local "genealogy" folder goes to your "genealogy" community, etc. The only solution to that is to only use one "community" so there is only one "site" to upload. If you use "misc", you will then upload misc AND each of the other categories (webs) you are using. The only positive: If you don't add much content, say to "school-alumni", you only need to re-upload as you add something. So, it is a pain to have to upload *each* one. Filezilla makes short work of the task(s), however. Judy On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:23 PM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > Lorrie, > > First, let me start off by clarifying the words used. Rootsweb/Ancestry > calls them "communities". I call them "categories" because in my mind, "sub > directory" can be confused with a sub-directory *I* made in one of them. > Some people call them "sub-directories" (of the "root" directory of your > account). Since each "community" can use "sub-directories" inside each, I > think calling each community (category) as a "sub-directory" can get > confusing.<snipped> >

Lorrie, First, let me start off by clarifying the words used. Rootsweb/Ancestry calls them "communities". I call them "categories" because in my mind, "sub directory" can be confused with a sub-directory *I* made in one of them. Some people call them "sub-directories" (of the "root" directory of your account). Since each "community" can use "sub-directories" inside each, I think calling each community (category) as a "sub-directory" can get confusing. Sign in to http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/fileman/ with your accountname and password. The "communities" are shown there; you must change to the community you want to look at to see it. The basic structure is: Rootsweb/Ancestry Server Root Server ~youraccount (with "misc" being the primary "community" but symlinked to all the rest) (sub) miscellaneous (misc) (I'm putting the rest in alpha order) (sub) college-alumni (sub) computers (sub) family (sub) folklore (sub) genealogy (sub) history (sub) military (sub) nostalgia (sub) religions (sub) school-alumni Each of the above "names" will appear it its own URL: example http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ (replace misc with another "name"/"category" and you're in a different "sub-directory.") Miscellaneous is the only one that gets shortened to misc On your PC/Local you should match the directory naming. So under folder My Webs you'll have folders for whichever ones you are actively using, for example: sub-folder genealogy ---------which then can have numerous sub folders under it sub-folder family ---------which then can have numerous sub folders under it etc etc etc Many people start making their first freepages website by using "family" or "genealogy" -- mostly because the symlink aspect is not made clear when a person requests an account. The other categories or sub-directories of your root account are always at your disposal to use. As my family and genealogy "sites" got bigger I wanted to use 'religions' and 'school-alumni'. At that point, Pat G. suggested I use the "misc" one as a 'front door' so to speak to all my websites. You asked about Pros/ Cons. Let's start with "Neither"/"Both" 1. You always have these "categories" available to use as separate "webs" (all in one "account"), regardless of whether you use any of them or just one. (or use many) 2. You can think of it as having different "websites". 3. Whether you use the "misc" as a "front door" for all your webs, or if you don't, you can still categorize your content and put it in whichever community you think best fits. 4. You can make each "community" look different. But if you decide to use "misc" AND to link all the communities together, you'll need some navigation between misc and the others. Pros of using "misc": 1. The URL is shorter. Barry pointed out how short it becomes. 2. Visitors can Bookmark just one site, IF you link all your "communities" to the front page of the "misc" site. 3. Once you can picture (conceptualize) all the communities as being "separate but together", you can micro-organize all the communities you choose to use... put military pictures on "military"... put just your family on "family" -- or however you decide your content best fits each "community". Even though you begin to micro-organize, you keep in mind that "misc" acts as your Primary website. 4. It gets confusing to tell visitors: Well, that is on my "family" pages... That is on my "genealogy" pages... etc. Visitors don't know or understand the "communities" as different websites but all as being "one account". But using "misc" helps reduce confusion. 5. If you use one on-site search box on ALL of your categories/communities, visitors will find what you have on ALL of them. Cons of using "misc", especially if you already used other ones to start: 1. You really have to wrap your mind around having many separate "webs" but a Primary site of "misc". 2. If you first made one "community"... then expanded to two... then to three... It can be hard AT FIRST to start re-organizing. It took me months to pull "schools" from other communities and put it in "school-alumni". I ended up leaving some content where I put it orignally, but vowed to keep it all organized from now on. 3. If you made each one look different from the beginning, but now use "misc", then you might want ALL to look the SAME. But if you already had 1,200 pages in "family" and 3,000 in "genealogy", well, it's much harder to convert ALL of those to one color scheme, one style, etc. 4. Visitors AT FIRST are confused when you now say, "Just go to the misc URL of...." They say, "well I know it had genealogy in the URL"... You just need to get them to go to "misc" one time to understand that they can find everything from there. I'm split on my opinion. I like using "misc" now. BUT I still like the separateness. Some days, I like that each of my communities looks different from my others (colors, styles). Other days, I wish they all looked the same. But I'm too old and busy to change all those pages. I expanded quickly from my 1st page. It's nice to know I can expand even more. But, I don't know if I could keep more communities straight! Here's my basic "organization" or what I attempted to do: genealogy -- has mostly newspapers (A newspaper company gave me a re-print permission from 1800 up to early 2000.) family -- this has stories and memories about towns and people in a county.... might fit better on "nostalgia" but I like it better here school-alumni -- has schools in 1 county religions -- anything to do with churches and worship in one county history -- those "Personal Glances" out of newspapers misc -- links all of them but also on misc is Postcards, recently taken photos of places in the county, images intended to stir up visitor's memories, and "experiences" people had growing up (again, some could fit under "nostalgia" but I just prefer my organization) Note: I have official county records on the county GenWeb site. Birth, marriage, death... Census... Cemeteries... etc. Everyone chooses his / her own way. The best thing I ever did was write down what kinds of stuff (records, newspapers, pictures, etc)I had, and write on PAPER what I wanted to do. I used a Composition Book for each "community" and separate pages for each "sub-folder" that I put into (made in) a community. I used those notebooks for the first 2 to 3 years to keep it all straight in my head. It gets harder as you expand to keep in mind what you have intended to do. Judy

Judy, Your explanation was clear and easy to follow. In all of the years I have had a rw account, I don't recall this topic being discussed in such detail. I assume this info is also on the rw site but first hand experience is always better than tutorials. RW has so much info that account holders need to know and their instructions sometimes aren't enough, at least for newbies. This list, and others like it, are probably the only thing that keep so many account holders active. I think some would just give up without mailing lists to turn to for help. Thanks. Lorrie On 02/16/11 21:35, J.A. Florian wrote: > One "Con" about all of this: > With using more than 1 "community", each one has to be uploaded > (ftp'd) separately. So your local "genealogy" folder goes to your > "genealogy" community, etc. > The only solution to that is to only use one "community" so there is > only one "site" to upload. > If you use "misc", you will then upload misc AND each of the other > categories (webs) you are using. > The only positive: If you don't add much content, say to > "school-alumni", you only need to re-upload as you add something. > So, it is a pain to have to upload *each* one. Filezilla makes short > work of the task(s), however. > Judy > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:23 PM, J.A. Florian <cageycat@gmail.com > <mailto:cageycat@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Lorrie, > First, let me start off by clarifying the words used. > Rootsweb/Ancestry calls them "communities". I call them > "categories" because in my mind, "sub directory" can be confused > with a sub-directory *I* made in one of them. Some people call > them "sub-directories" (of the "root" directory of your account). > Since each "community" can use "sub-directories" inside each, I > think calling each community (category) as a "sub-directory" can > get confusing.<snipped> >

I'm probably a little late on this but........ Each account holder has several different directories they can use. They are not "shared" with anyone else. When you enter "your" account you will generally pop into the "Public" folder. There you should see all your different directories, ie., books_html, college-alumni_html, family_html, etc. Those are your directories. No one else has access to upload to them. On 02/16/2011 03:29 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > Lets put it another way. > > Your account is really > "rootsweb.com/freepages/community/accountname/sub-directories etc.." > > So when you use freepages.rootsweb.com (a sub domain of rootsweb), the > next level is the "community" and that is effectively a sub domain of > freepages. Its at this point the the individual accounts are created. > > Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a > webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat > Asher might be able to help. > > Barry > > On 17/02/2011 10:18 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> Barry, >> >> I understand. I guess I am not asking the question correctly because I >> am not getting an answer. I'll try again. :-) >> >> Is there only one set of these directories such as misc, computers, >> history, military and such and they are used by all accounts? Or does >> each account, my docex account, have their own set of these very same >> directories? >> >> I am not quite understanding how an account holder can choose to upload >> an web page, say index.html, to a directory outside of their account >> without some connection to that account holder's account? >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 02/16/11 15:09, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> Lorrie, >>> >>> Each ~account is a sub directory of the community being used. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> On 17/02/2011 10:06 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>>> Barry, >>>> >>>> So who owns these directories? Each account holder, say my account? Or >>>> is there only one misc dir, one computers and so on and they are shared >>>> by all account holders? >>>> >>>> Lorrie >>>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

At 09:01 PM 2/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >This raises another question. Does this not make managing a website on >your local machine more difficult? Are multiple websites required for >multiple sub-directories? Of course this is getting into an area that >will no doubt have many answers depending on the webmaster's set up on >their local computer. > >But it does make me think about using the sub-directories. I wonder how >others have used them? Any advantages over just creating a sub-directory >in the original website? ================= Well if it was me and I was using each of the various subdirectories, then YES DEFINITELY, I would create each of those as separate websites on my computer. On my site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/ there are three separate sites all under the genealogy sub directory http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ Each of them has a totally different look. On my computer they are all part of the freepages website on my computer. If I was using each of the different communities available then each would be a totally separate web on my computer. The examples I gave you as how Judy was using the communities is as good an example as I can find. Each appears to be about the subject of the community Her site on Washington County churches under religion and the one on schools under school_alumni I do not use any of the other communities at the present time. pat g

Barry, No, I had not noticed but will check it out now that I am aware of it. Lorrie On 02/16/11 20:51, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > I don't know if you have ever noticed, but in many of my posts I link to > my account in misc_html, or occasionally the computers_html one. I only > have an index page for the genealogy_html account, and anyone wanting to > find technical stuff I've posted can do that themselves by trawling > through the parent directory of the first two mentioned communities. > > Barry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pat, Theoretically, an account holder could have many websites for one account and may link each of them to one main website or keep each of them separate from each other. I had not thought of the possibilities. This would make management of information easier if one had a lot of it and a variety. Good info to know. Lorrie On 02/16/11 20:35, Pat Geary wrote: > At 09:01 PM 2/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> This raises another question. Does this not make managing a website on >> your local machine more difficult? Are multiple websites required for >> multiple sub-directories? Of course this is getting into an area that >> will no doubt have many answers depending on the webmaster's set up on >> their local computer. >> >> But it does make me think about using the sub-directories. I wonder how >> others have used them? Any advantages over just creating a sub-directory >> in the original website? > ================= > Well if it was me and I was using each of the various subdirectories, > then YES DEFINITELY, I would create each of those as separate websites > on my computer. > > On my site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Egearyfamily/> > > there are three separate sites all under the genealogy sub directory > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Egearyfamily/frontpage/> > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Egearyfamily/expression-web/> > > > Each of them has a totally different look. On my computer they are all > part of the freepages website on my computer. > > If I was using each of the different communities available then each > would be a totally separate web on my computer. > > The examples I gave you as how Judy was using the communities is as > good an example as I can find. Each appears to be about the subject of > the community > > Her site on Washington County churches under religion and the one on > schools under school_alumni > > I do not use any of the other communities at the present time. > > pat g >

At 08:28 PM 2/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >So >the end result is, if I understand, that I can upload to any of these >sub-directories in my account but the viewer won't know it because this >info is not made visible to them in the url. =========== Lorrie, if you are going to use the subdirectories available to you for different sites or different parts of the site, the viewer is going to know because to access the pages within these subdirectories, the viwer is going to have the url. Or am I totally misunderstanding what you are asking?? Using Judy's site as an example http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the misc subdirectory http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the genealogy subdirectory http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the religions subdirectory http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the school-alumni pat

At 08:28 PM 2/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >So >the end result is, if I understand, that I can upload to any of these >sub-directories in my account but the viewer won't know it because this >info is not made visible to them in the url. =========== Lorrie, if you are going to use the subdirectories available to you for different sites or different parts of the site, the viewer is going to know because to access the pages within these subdirectories, the viwer is going to have the url. Or am I totally misunderstanding what you are asking?? Using Judy's site as an example http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the misc subdirectory http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the genealogy subdirectory http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the religions subdirectory http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ the school-alumni pat

Pat, No. You understand correctly but my assumption was wrong. The sub-directory will show up in the url which is what I misunderstood. This raises another question. Does this not make managing a website on your local machine more difficult? Are multiple websites required for multiple sub-directories? Of course this is getting into an area that will no doubt have many answers depending on the webmaster's set up on their local computer. But it does make me think about using the sub-directories. I wonder how others have used them? Any advantages over just creating a sub-directory in the original website? Lorrie On 02/16/11 19:40, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 08:28 PM 2/16/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> So >> the end result is, if I understand, that I can upload to any of these >> sub-directories in my account but the viewer won't know it because this >> info is not made visible to them in the url. > =========== > > Lorrie, if you are going to use the subdirectories available to you > for different sites or different parts of the site, the viewer is > going to know because to access the pages within these subdirectories, > the viwer is going to have the url. Or am I totally misunderstanding > what you are asking?? > > Using Judy's site as an example > > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eflorian/> the misc subdirectory > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eflorian/%A0> the > genealogy subdirectory > > http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > <http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eflorian/> the > religions subdirectory > > http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > <http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eflorian/> the > school-alumni > > pat

Pat, That answers my question about how to access the sub-directories. So I do have these sub-directories in my account and not sharing those sub-directories with other account holders. That makes more sense. So the end result is, if I understand, that I can upload to any of these sub-directories in my account but the viewer won't know it because this info is not made visible to them in the url. If I am wrong, please correct me. On a related subject, what are the pros and cons of using multiple sub-directories? Lorrie On 02/16/11 16:10, Pat Asher wrote: > At 04:29 PM 2/16/2011, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a >> webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat >> Asher might be able to help. > > Lorrie, > > Barry has it almost -- but not quite right. The structure of the > Freepages server is somewhat unique, and it is easy to get confused. > > Your account ~lorrielasky (or any Freepages account) is located on a > server named freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com > Since there is a permanent redirect in place from rootsweb.com to > rootsweb.ancestry.com, I am going to remove ancestry from the example > URLs to keep them as simple as possible. > > Now, within your account, ~lorrielasky, you have multiple > subdirectories before you yourself create and upload anything to your > account. There is > freepages.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky/famiily_html/ > freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/genealogy_html/ > freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/history_html > freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/military_html > freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/misc_html > etc. There are a total of 10 subdirectories in your account, and you > may use any of them. > > Where it can be confusing is that, in order to make a Freepages > account as versatile as possible, the powers that be decided to > symlink all those subdirectories in each account. You can use any or > all of them as unique URLs. > > So, when you login to your account and elect to upload a page to > family_html, instead of the URL being > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky/family_html/yourpage.html > the symlink directs it to > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky/yourpage.html > > You can also upload a page named yourpage.html to any of the other > subdirectories in your account, and each will have a unique URL > according to subdirectory you have selected. > > The Miscellaneous directory is, as Barry and others have pointed out, > the root directory for your account, so if you omit a directory name > from the URL, as in > freepages.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky > the server will deliver > freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky > by default. > > Probably more than you wanted to know <g> > > > Pat Asher >

At 04:18 PM 2/16/2011, Greg wrote: >Can I change my password for my FTP account and where, Greg If your password has been compromised, you can request a new one by notifying accounts@rootsweb.com However, you can not choose the password for your Freepages account. They are randomly generated by a computer for security reasons. Pat Asher

At 04:29 PM 2/16/2011, Barry Carlson wrote: >Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a >webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat >Asher might be able to help. Lorrie, Barry has it almost -- but not quite right. The structure of the Freepages server is somewhat unique, and it is easy to get confused. Your account ~lorrielasky (or any Freepages account) is located on a server named freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com Since there is a permanent redirect in place from rootsweb.com to rootsweb.ancestry.com, I am going to remove ancestry from the example URLs to keep them as simple as possible. Now, within your account, ~lorrielasky, you have multiple subdirectories before you yourself create and upload anything to your account. There is freepages.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky/famiily_html/ freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/genealogy_html/ freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/history_html freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/military_html freepages.rootsweb.com/!lorrielasky/misc_html etc. There are a total of 10 subdirectories in your account, and you may use any of them. Where it can be confusing is that, in order to make a Freepages account as versatile as possible, the powers that be decided to symlink all those subdirectories in each account. You can use any or all of them as unique URLs. So, when you login to your account and elect to upload a page to family_html, instead of the URL being http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky/family_html/yourpage.html the symlink directs it to http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky/yourpage.html You can also upload a page named yourpage.html to any of the other subdirectories in your account, and each will have a unique URL according to subdirectory you have selected. The Miscellaneous directory is, as Barry and others have pointed out, the root directory for your account, so if you omit a directory name from the URL, as in freepages.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky the server will deliver freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~lorrielasky by default. Probably more than you wanted to know <g> Pat Asher

I am going to hazard a guess that it would look something like this rootsweb.com freepages genealogy misc school_alumni ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name ~account name and so on? Maybe way off but . . . . . . pat g

Barry, No. I think I get it. I can use any of these other directories with my docex account. I need to read a little more and determine the pros and cons of the many ways they can be used. Thanks, again. Lorrie On 02/16/11 15:42, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > Ah! The penny has dropped. I assume your account is > freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~docex. > You are entitled to use any of the other communities that you find > listed if you direct your FTP at users.freepages.rootsweb.com > > Or do we need to double translate to and from Swahili?? :-) > > Barry > > > On 17/02/2011 10:33 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> Barry, >> >> I understand. You have explained it well but I am just not getting the >> answer I am seeking. So the problem is with me. I will do some research >> on my own. Thanks for you help. :-) >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 02/16/11 15:29, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> Lorrie, >>> >>> Lets put it another way. >>> >>> Your account is really >>> "rootsweb.com/freepages/community/accountname/sub-directories etc.." >>> >>> So when you use freepages.rootsweb.com (a sub domain of rootsweb), the >>> next level is the "community" and that is effectively a sub domain of >>> freepages. Its at this point the the individual accounts are created. >>> >>> Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a >>> webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat >>> Asher might be able to help. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> On 17/02/2011 10:18 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>>> Barry, >>>> >>>> I understand. I guess I am not asking the question correctly because I >>>> am not getting an answer. I'll try again. :-) >>>> >>>> Is there only one set of these directories such as misc, computers, >>>> history, military and such and they are used by all accounts? Or does >>>> each account, my docex account, have their own set of these very same >>>> directories? >>>> >>>> I am not quite understanding how an account holder can choose to upload >>>> an web page, say index.html, to a directory outside of their account >>>> without some connection to that account holder's account? >>>> >>>> Lorrie >>>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 02:51 PM 2/16/2011, Ian Singer wrote: >But is there not a facility to contact customer care and ask them to >change the account name, or to cancel the account so that a more >appropriate name can be selected?? Ian, The Freepages agreement is a CONTRACT, signed by the person requesting the account. As Pat Geary pointed out, the requester must agree to the terms of the contract before the account is granted. Pat Asher

Barry, I understand. You have explained it well but I am just not getting the answer I am seeking. So the problem is with me. I will do some research on my own. Thanks for you help. :-) Lorrie On 02/16/11 15:29, Barry Carlson wrote: > Lorrie, > > Lets put it another way. > > Your account is really > "rootsweb.com/freepages/community/accountname/sub-directories etc.." > > So when you use freepages.rootsweb.com (a sub domain of rootsweb), the > next level is the "community" and that is effectively a sub domain of > freepages. Its at this point the the individual accounts are created. > > Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a > webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat > Asher might be able to help. > > Barry > > On 17/02/2011 10:18 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> Barry, >> >> I understand. I guess I am not asking the question correctly because I >> am not getting an answer. I'll try again. :-) >> >> Is there only one set of these directories such as misc, computers, >> history, military and such and they are used by all accounts? Or does >> each account, my docex account, have their own set of these very same >> directories? >> >> I am not quite understanding how an account holder can choose to upload >> an web page, say index.html, to a directory outside of their account >> without some connection to that account holder's account? >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 02/16/11 15:09, Barry Carlson wrote: >>> Lorrie, >>> >>> Each ~account is a sub directory of the community being used. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> On 17/02/2011 10:06 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>>> Barry, >>>> >>>> So who owns these directories? Each account holder, say my account? Or >>>> is there only one misc dir, one computers and so on and they are shared >>>> by all account holders? >>>> >>>> Lorrie >>>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >