Kim, I deleted your first message and am responding from memory.. As Pat stated, check the path of the includes in the "surnames" page. Since surnames is in a surnames folder, it's path will probably have a ../ before it to indicate that it is down one level in the root directory. Lorrie On 02/17/11 15:36, Kim Mills wrote: > Hi Lorrie, > It's the same site. The first link is the main page and it's fine. > The second link with the surnames is what I'm working with now. > > I'm trying to get it to pick up the includes the main page is using. > Thanks, > Kim > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrie Laskey" > <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> > To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > > >> Kim, >> >> Which site are you asking for help? >> >> Lorrie >> > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11 > >

Kim, Which site are you asking for help? Lorrie On 02/17/11 15:07, Kim Mills wrote: > I'm having a problem with my site. I'm close to done the template I want. I've got the includes all set up and they are working fine. > > But I would like the header, top menu, left menu and footer includes to show on my genealogy pages generated by RootsMagic. > I'm fumbling through how to set that up. lol RM does have an advanced html header and footer options. > But I'm pretty sure I'm entering the code wrong. > > My site is here http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/ > and the RM made pages are here http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/surnames/surnames.htm > > The header doesn't load. The top menu does but as a list and no styling. Then two error messages. Footer also gives an error message. > > Any help is really appreciated! > Thanks, > Kim > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning, I wonder if anyone can help ? My site is freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone and have a 'rollover' text coding problem! On the 'intro' page I have various email addresses that perform correctly i.e. when the mouse is hovered over some hyperlinks, the text changes but lower down, it doesn't. The burning question is Why? I'm flummoxed and would appreciate any ideas. To assist, the page was created in MS Frontpage 2002 and I could send a portion of code if that helps. -- /Cheers/ /Peter/

This has been an interesting thread to read! I had no idea the misc was the "root" folder in RW. I started building my site in the genealogy folder, lol. My other site that I self host use a public html folder in that goes my index and main program then, build sub dir off that. I wonder why they didn't just name the misc folder root or something and have the other paths off that. lol The way it's laid out now it looks like misc is just another subfolder. I guess one could build their full site in the misc folder as well. Make your own family sub dir's off that. What I was planning to do with my site was the index, includes and other needed things in the root folder. Then making sub dir for other topics, different sir names etc. An example might be for the surname Anderson. I would want a subfolder named Anderson and subfolders under that for military, bios, photos etc. things that are just for that family. Then similar for each surname. I would not want a general military folder to then split up with folders for each surname. That would confuse me to no end, I want all surname info in one area. lol But I could see using the RW military folder for general military war topics not directly pertaining to a person in my family. Sorry if I'm rambling 3 hours sleep, I'm scatter brained today. lol Kim ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11

Pat Geary, My previous email was directed at Pat Asher. It was rather unfortunate that I had started replying to you when I saw Pat Asher's timely intervention, and forgot to remove your text. In the confusion we all may have learned something. Barry

Pat, Thanks for clearing that up. Maybe Lorrie will see it better with your explanation. Barry On 17/02/2011 10:57 a.m., Patricia Geary wrote: > I am going to hazard a guess that it would look something like this > > rootsweb.com > freepages > > genealogy misc school_alumni > ~account name ~account name ~account name > ~account name ~account name ~account name > ~account name ~account name ~account name > ~account name ~account name ~account name > > and so on? > > Maybe way off but . . . . . . > > pat g > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lorrie, Ah! The penny has dropped. I assume your account is freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~docex. You are entitled to use any of the other communities that you find listed if you direct your FTP at users.freepages.rootsweb.com Or do we need to double translate to and from Swahili?? :-) Barry On 17/02/2011 10:33 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Barry, > > I understand. You have explained it well but I am just not getting the > answer I am seeking. So the problem is with me. I will do some research > on my own. Thanks for you help. :-) > > Lorrie > > On 02/16/11 15:29, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Lorrie, >> >> Lets put it another way. >> >> Your account is really >> "rootsweb.com/freepages/community/accountname/sub-directories etc.." >> >> So when you use freepages.rootsweb.com (a sub domain of rootsweb), the >> next level is the "community" and that is effectively a sub domain of >> freepages. Its at this point the the individual accounts are created. >> >> Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a >> webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat >> Asher might be able to help. >> >> Barry >> >> On 17/02/2011 10:18 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>> Barry, >>> >>> I understand. I guess I am not asking the question correctly because I >>> am not getting an answer. I'll try again. :-) >>> >>> Is there only one set of these directories such as misc, computers, >>> history, military and such and they are used by all accounts? Or does >>> each account, my docex account, have their own set of these very same >>> directories? >>> >>> I am not quite understanding how an account holder can choose to upload >>> an web page, say index.html, to a directory outside of their account >>> without some connection to that account holder's account? >>> >>> Lorrie >>>

Lorrie, Lets put it another way. Your account is really "rootsweb.com/freepages/community/accountname/sub-directories etc.." So when you use freepages.rootsweb.com (a sub domain of rootsweb), the next level is the "community" and that is effectively a sub domain of freepages. Its at this point the the individual accounts are created. Am I explaining it well? I think probably not, and maybe a graphic in a webpage might be the answer. There may already be one out there. Pat Asher might be able to help. Barry On 17/02/2011 10:18 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Barry, > > I understand. I guess I am not asking the question correctly because I > am not getting an answer. I'll try again. :-) > > Is there only one set of these directories such as misc, computers, > history, military and such and they are used by all accounts? Or does > each account, my docex account, have their own set of these very same > directories? > > I am not quite understanding how an account holder can choose to upload > an web page, say index.html, to a directory outside of their account > without some connection to that account holder's account? > > Lorrie > > On 02/16/11 15:09, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Lorrie, >> >> Each ~account is a sub directory of the community being used. >> >> Barry >> >> On 17/02/2011 10:06 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: >>> Barry, >>> >>> So who owns these directories? Each account holder, say my account? Or >>> is there only one misc dir, one computers and so on and they are shared >>> by all account holders? >>> >>> Lorrie >>>

Lorrie, Each ~account is a sub directory of the community being used. Barry On 17/02/2011 10:06 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Barry, > > So who owns these directories? Each account holder, say my account? Or > is there only one misc dir, one computers and so on and they are shared > by all account holders? > > Lorrie > > On 02/16/11 15:03, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Lorrie, >> >> The root directory for freepages is:- >> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ >> >> It has also been assigned a directory name of misc_html, and the only >> difference from an URL point of view, is as its the root directory, it >> can be addressed as above, or using misc. The other communities, >> computers, military, history etc.. require to be addressed as such, and >> it is not possible to address another community using a relative path >> from another. They must be addressed using an absolute path. >> >> Barry >>

Lorrie, The root directory for freepages is:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ It has also been assigned a directory name of misc_html, and the only difference from an URL point of view, is as its the root directory, it can be addressed as above, or using misc. The other communities, computers, military, history etc.. require to be addressed as such, and it is not possible to address another community using a relative path from another. They must be addressed using an absolute path. Barry On 17/02/2011 9:52 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: > Barry and all, > > I never quite understood the structure of the various rw directories > available to account holders nor how to use them. Are you stating that > each account holder has a misc, genealogy and other directories at their > disposal that comes with their account or, that there are only one each > of those directories and account holders share them? Please explain. > > What are the pros and cons of using several directories vs one? > > Lorrie > > > > On 02/16/11 14:46, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Lorrie, >> >> Judy has created an index page and loaded it to her misc_html directory. >> Do that, and create links to index pages on any of the other communities. >> >> Barry >>

Lorrie, Judy has created an index page and loaded it to her misc_html directory. Do that, and create links to index pages on any of the other communities. Barry On 17/02/2011 9:31 a.m., Lorrie Laskey wrote: > How does this work? The link opens Judy's site but when I substitute my > site's name for "florian", the page is directed to a general index page > with my url. Selecting the "parent directory" link opens the "Freepages: > Free Unlimited Web Space" page. > > Lorrie > > On 02/16/11 14:19, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Judy, >> >> if you want the shortest url, it is:- >> >> http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~florian/ >> >> Try it yourself. >> >> Barry

Judy said: > 4. If you use the "miscellaneous" (misc) category, your URL will be shorter > and "misc" can act as the "main page" for all the category websites. > > For example ... http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Even better, if you use the "misc" folder to hold your main index.htm(l) file you don't have to put it in the URL - for example, http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/> takes you to http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/index.htm I use that as my "home" page, with links on it going to other pages. Kind Regards, Wendy

Judy, if you want the shortest url, it is:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~florian/ Try it yourself. Barry On 17/02/2011 9:15 a.m., J.A. Florian wrote: > Others on this List told me I could use the "misc" > site to make it easier for visitors because "misc" has the shorter URL. > See http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ > As you see, on that page I give the URLs for each freepages category that I > use (plus one account I have on the "rootsweb" server). > As well as giving links to all my "sites", I also USE the misc website for a > different type of content. >

At 08:13 AM 2/17/2011, Peter wrote: >I wonder if anyone can help ? My site is >freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone and have a 'rollover' >text coding problem! > >On the 'intro' page I have various email addresses that perform >correctly i.e. when the mouse is hovered over some hyperlinks, the text >changes but lower down, it doesn't. ============ For some reason, rootsweb is not liking my pat@the-gearys.com addy for sending messages. This page perhaps http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone/intro.htm which turns the links to pink when I hover over them. pat

At 08:13 AM 2/17/2011, Peter wrote: >I wonder if anyone can help ? My site is >freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone and have a 'rollover' >text coding problem! > >On the 'intro' page I have various email addresses that perform >correctly i.e. when the mouse is hovered over some hyperlinks, the text >changes but lower down, it doesn't. ============ This page perhaps http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone/intro.htm pat

Peter, We need the URL of the page on which the problem occurs. Pat At 08:13 AM 2/17/2011, Peter wrote: >Good morning, > >I wonder if anyone can help ? My site is >freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone and have a 'rollover' >text coding problem! > >On the 'intro' page I have various email addresses that perform >correctly i.e. when the mouse is hovered over some hyperlinks, the text >changes but lower down, it doesn't. > >The burning question is Why? I'm flummoxed and would appreciate any ideas. > >To assist, the page was created in MS Frontpage 2002 and I could send a >portion of code if that helps. > >-- >/Cheers/ > >/Peter/ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 11:53 PM 2/16/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >Well, it's easy to switch pages to the html extension. BUT, the *.htm is >NOT the same as *.html for indexing, meaning, one does not substitute for >the other. So if your site is established in Google rank, you may drop for >a few months or until Google re-indexes your site. ================== I may be wrong but I got the impression he left off a file extension altogether. If so, you can resave the page and add the correct extension or rename the page using windows explorer. It appears he is using Word to design and save his pages. You will need to make sure the links to that page, refer to the page with the correct extension. pat

The trouble with Bots is simply that a good bot one day can be a bad bot the next day. Its a bit like I'm going to dress in my Sunday best and be accepted by all, but tomorrow I'll be wearing orange overalls and a member of a chain gang! So who am I? People still get their houses broken into, even with the most stringent safety measures. Don't forget the banks! Barry On 17/02/2011 6:39 a.m., Pat Geary wrote: > At 12:10 PM 2/16/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >> Would Randy consider writing a htaccess file for the "root" that >> allows the good bots such as for indexing, while disallowing the bad >> harvesting bots? > ============ > > You might have to ask Randy or the Help desk about that. > > I do know that one of the GenWeb sites, hosted on another server has > had a major problem with hacking of sites. They made changes to the > .htacess file to stop it. > > Have no idea what the answer is. > > Pat G. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can I change my password for my FTP account and where, Greg

Ooops, I misunderstood your question. You want to know how to get your website to display a "page" when it opens http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/ What you did not do was start with a page called "index.htm" OR "index.html" The URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/ is the same as http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/index.htm -- IF you had an "index" page When you do not do an "index.htm(l)" page, visitors see every file inside your website. They see a directory tree. To correct this, make a New Page, and name it "index.htm" OR "index.html" This page must NOT be in a folder. It must be "freely" placed in the "genealogy" folder (on your computer). Use the "index.htm" OR "index.html" as a "home page"... the first page visitors will see. I tried to look in your Directory Tree for what you called your "first" page but the page I picked was huge and is still loading :-( On your "index.htm" OR "index.html" page, place navigation links to main areas of your site. Maybe write a paragraph or two about the site. Make sure in the HEAD coding to use a TITLE tag, Meta Decription, Meta Keywords. Whatever "name" you put in the TITLE tag should be the same H1 text used "on" your webpage. For example: Kincaide Family History and Genealogy from New York You should use one consistent "name" for your entire website-- and put that on every page. BUT ALSO, use a descriptive H1 page title "on" the page. Like put an H1 tag around your title "Kincaid DNA Vetting and Lineage Post Central" that you used on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/kincaid%20vetting%20and%20lineage%20post%20central.htm NOTE: to get rid of the "%20" in your URLs, use a hyphen-between-each-word-in-every-file-name.html After you write paragraphs on your "index.htm" OR "index.html" and have site-wide navigation listed, start Labeling by type of files. Then make links from those labels, like: Kincaide Census Pages (link it to a "index.htm" OR "index.html" in the folder for Census) Julie Kincaide Recipes (link it) John Kincaide Biography (link it) Miscellaneous Kincaide Family Records (link it) Make a folder for each. Move your pages into folders according to type (and area of your website). A "index.htm" OR "index.html" page in each folder acts as a "front door" to that folder. You link all the folder's "index.htm" OR "index.html" pages back to the main site's "index.htm" OR "index.html" So if I go to your main site's index, I can then go to your census index.html page. Questions? Judy On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com > wrote: > I have a genealogy page but when I first created it I failed to put htm on > the end. How do I change it to htm? My webpage is below. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/ > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide