Kim, The divs and the #includes within, the are located in the body of the page in the code flow, i.e. where they would normally appear on your page. Barry On 18/02/2011 11:58 a.m., Kim Mills wrote: > The text I'm putting in the RM web generator header area is: > > <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" > href="../our-family-blue.css" /> > <div id="container"> > <!--#include virtual="../includes/header.txt" --></div> > <div id="topmenu"> > <!--#include virtual="../includes/topmenu.txt" --></div> > <div id="navigation"> > <!--#include virtual="includes/leftmenu.txt" --></div> > >

Thanks Barry! That's exactly what I'm trying to get my site to do! I just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong lol. Yes if you could send me the file and any advice on how to set the divs in RM generator would be wonderful. I tried it a minute ago and it just moved my site and left menu to the middle of the page. lol Thanks so much, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > > Without the background, I have your page sorted and it is at:- > > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/surnames/kim-m.html > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

Back about fifteen years, or so, ago I used a program called GED2WWW to create my genealogy website [ example: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/data/dat26.htm ]. I exported a GEDcom from Brothers Keeper and GED2WWW created an entire web site ready for upload. It's very simple HTML with no bells or whistles. Easy to add to or change in any editor. It won't "validate" because it uses some deprecated tags, but it does show properly in any browser. I have never had to generate a new website in all the years it's been online. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Ok added a content div after the left menu includes and added a closing div in the top of the footer html area in RM. It ended up moving the entire content area including my left menu over about 2 inches into the screen. Text still wrapped around the menu to. lol :P Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Mills" <kim.mills@wightman.ca> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > > Anyway would I be entering the new divs in the RM html editor like I did > with the includes code? Or would this need to be added by hand to every > page RM generates? > Would I be adding the first part of the div in the RM header html area > were the header, top menu and left menu is and then add the closing DIV in > the top of the footer html area? > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

-- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Kim, Please post the left menu Include again, and the #include code. Barry

Kim, Pat has raised the issue of you using two style-sheets. If there is a conflict between style-sheets, the style-sheet loaded last will take precedence. A simpler way to add your styles links is:- <style> @import "styles.css"; @import "../our-family-blue.css;" </style> Note that style-sheet links can only be located in the head section of your page. Barry On 18/02/2011 11:00 a.m., Kim Mills wrote: > Thanks! > I've managed to get them all to show except the left side menu. That one is > still giving an error. > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/surnames/surnames.htm > > The only other thing I notice is the top menu and footer display is smaller > on the RM made pages then the main page. I'm not that worried about it, but > would be nice if they were the size the style sheet shows. > > Kim >

Thanks Pat, I do have a tree on worldconnect but I don't like it as much as a website style. Just personal preference I guess, I like more of a narrative style. Although I like Legacy's pedigree pages much better then RM's. I might switch to their style at some point. Anyway would I be entering the new divs in the RM html editor like I did with the includes code? Or would this need to be added by hand to every page RM generates? Would I be adding the first part of the div in the RM header html area were the header, top menu and left menu is and then add the closing DIV in the top of the footer html area? Just trying to understand what I'm doing. LOL Thanks, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Geary To: Kim Mills ; freepages-help@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes Which is why it is harder to work with pages generated by a genealogy program and every time you regenerate them you have to start from scratch. This is the main reason I prefer to use worldconnect as a way of displaying my databases and link them to my narrative site. In order for the content to not wrap around the menu, you will need to place the rw generated content within a content area. Look at the original page and you should see the navigation is floated to the left and their is a div id content. You can surround the content generated by rm with a div and that should contain it. pat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

At 10:41 AM 2/18/2011, Kim Mills wrote: >I'm still trying to figure out why the text on the RM made pages wraps >around under the sidebar. I think it's because RM isn't defining a content >area/table to place it's text in. But I'm not sure how to fix that when it >generates it's own pages... Which is why it is harder to work with pages generated by a genealogy program and every time you regenerate them you have to start from scratch. This is the main reason I prefer to use worldconnect as a way of displaying my databases and link them to my narrative site. In order for the content to not wrap around the menu, you will need to place the rw generated content within a content area. Look at the original page and you should see the navigation is floated to the left and their is a div id content. You can surround the content generated by rm with a div and that should contain it. pat

Thanks Jill! That centered the header for me. I left the height as I had it but took out the width settings. The actual image I made is 1000px by 230px. So if I reduce the height it cuts off the image boarder. I would have to resize the image first. I'm eventually going to add some more txt or images to the header so I don't want it to small. I'm still trying to figure out why the text on the RM made pages wraps around under the sidebar. I think it's because RM isn't defining a content area/table to place it's text in. But I'm not sure how to fix that when it generates it's own pages... Thanks, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: "'Kim Mills'" <kim.mills@wightman.ca>; <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: RE: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > Hi Kim, How about you change the width of your banner? You have it in > your > css as > width: 1000px; Try taking it out and have the height set at around > height: 170px; ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

Peter, What you mean, if I understand correctly, is the email links at the top use a rollerover style to 'move larger' when rolled over -- and they do. But, you expect your links starting at Click to visit the Surname List<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone/surnlist.htm>, the Picture Gallery<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone/gallery.htm>or the (new) Timeline<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone/timeline.htm> to behave the same way -- turn red with hover, move to slightly larger text, and return to normal text when rolled off. Right? I moved your rollover style and put it right above the closing /head tag. After removing the RW banners, the upper address links still roll correctly. The only thing I can think is, does the line code you used before each link at the bottom the same way you wrote the addresses above? Sorry I'm not great at this. Someone else on the List will spot the problem right off. Judy On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Peter <pjr@talktalk.net> wrote: > Good morning, > > I wonder if anyone can help ? My site is > freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawbone and have a 'rollover' > text coding problem! > > On the 'intro' page I have various email addresses that perform > correctly i.e. when the mouse is hovered over some hyperlinks, the text > changes but lower down, it doesn't. > > The burning question is Why? I'm flummoxed and would appreciate any ideas. > > To assist, the page was created in MS Frontpage 2002 and I could send a > portion of code if that helps. > > -- > /Cheers/ > > /Peter/ >

The text in the left menu includes is: <ul> <li><a href="surnames/surnames.htm">Surnames</a> </li> </ul> <br> <ul> <li><a href="#">Mills, Grummett, Badgerow and Colgan</a> <ul> <li><a title="Sub Heading 2." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 3." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 4." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 5." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 6." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 7." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> </ul> </li> <br> <li><a href="#">Laws, Puddington, Anderson, Robichaud</a> <ul> <li><a title="Sub Heading 2." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 3." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 4." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 5." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 6." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> <li><a title="Sub Heading 7." href="#">Sub Heading 1</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> The text I'm putting in the RM web generator header area is: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../our-family-blue.css" /> <div id="container"> <!--#include virtual="../includes/header.txt" --></div> <div id="topmenu"> <!--#include virtual="../includes/topmenu.txt" --></div> <div id="navigation"> <!--#include virtual="includes/leftmenu.txt" --></div> Thanks! Kim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> > To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > > >> Kim, >> >> Please post the left menu Include again, and the #include code. >> >> Barry >> > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11

Thanks Barry, So would I change this code to what I added under it? <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../our-family-blue.css" /> <div id="container"> <!--#include virtual="../includes/header.txt" --></div> <div id="topmenu"> <!--#include virtual="../includes/topmenu.txt" --></div> <div id="navigation"> <!--#include virtual="includes/leftmenu.txt" --></div> Change to this? <style> @import "styles.css"; @import "../our-family-blue.css;" <div id="container"> <!--#include virtual="../includes/header.txt" --></div> <div id="topmenu"> <!--#include virtual="../includes/topmenu.txt" --></div> <div id="navigation"> <!--#include virtual="includes/leftmenu.txt" --></div> </style> Thanks, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > Kim, > > Pat has raised the issue of you using two style-sheets. If there is a > conflict between style-sheets, the style-sheet loaded last will take > precedence. > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11

At 05:00 PM 2/17/2011, Kim Mills wrote: >The only other thing I notice is the top menu and footer display is smaller >on the RM made pages then the main page. I'm not that worried about it, but >would be nice if they were the size the style sheet shows. You appear to be using two style sheets, the one that came with the template and one that it appears is created for the surnames page which contains this body {font-family: Tahoma, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; 9 point is for print and is way too small for the web. The two style sheets are fighting with each other. Again it is probably an issue of the correct path for the include. pat

Thanks! I've managed to get them all to show except the left side menu. That one is still giving an error. http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/surnames/surnames.htm The only other thing I notice is the top menu and footer display is smaller on the RM made pages then the main page. I'm not that worried about it, but would be nice if they were the size the style sheet shows. Kim ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11

Judy, You can set each community up in FileZilla separately, and just select the account you want from your accounts list. All other FTP utilities will operate the same way. Barry On 17/02/2011 4:35 p.m., J.A. Florian wrote: > One "Con" about all of this: > > With using more than 1 "community", each one has to be uploaded (ftp'd) > separately. So your local "genealogy" folder goes to your "genealogy" > community, etc. > > The only solution to that is to only use one "community" so there is only > one "site" to upload. > > If you use "misc", you will then upload misc AND each of the other > categories (webs) you are using. > > The only positive: If you don't add much content, say to "school-alumni", > you only need to re-upload as you add something. > > So, it is a pain to have to upload *each* one. Filezilla makes short work > of the task(s), however. > > Judy >

Hi Lorrie, It's the same site. The first link is the main page and it's fine. The second link with the surnames is what I'm working with now. I'm trying to get it to pick up the includes the main page is using. Thanks, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrie Laskey" <lrmalcom@bellsouth.net> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > Kim, > > Which site are you asking for help? > > Lorrie > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11

At 04:07 PM 2/17/2011, Kim Mills wrote: >and the RM made pages are here >http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/surnames/surnames.htm > >The header doesn't load. The top menu does but as a list and no >styling. Then two error messages. Footer also gives an error message. The style sheet is located here http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/our-family-blue.css which is in the root directory for this particular web. http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/surnames/surnames.htm is looking for the style sheet in the same directory as the page Put the full path to the style sheet and see if that helps. Check the path you are using to call the includes that are not showing. See if this helps any http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/server-side-includes.html If the page you want to insert the include is down one or two levels (folders) then you would need to add ../ for each level. pat

I'm having a problem with my site. I'm close to done the template I want. I've got the includes all set up and they are working fine. But I would like the header, top menu, left menu and footer includes to show on my genealogy pages generated by RootsMagic. I'm fumbling through how to set that up. lol RM does have an advanced html header and footer options. But I'm pretty sure I'm entering the code wrong. My site is here http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/ and the RM made pages are here http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kmills/surnames/surnames.htm The header doesn't load. The top menu does but as a list and no styling. Then two error messages. Footer also gives an error message. Any help is really appreciated! Thanks, Kim ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3449 - Release Date: 02/17/11

Lorrie, I don't know if you have ever noticed, but in many of my posts I link to my account in misc_html, or occasionally the computers_html one. I only have an index page for the genealogy_html account, and anyone wanting to find technical stuff I've posted can do that themselves by trawling through the parent directory of the first two mentioned communities. Barry