At 05:17 PM 2/18/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >I don't understand the difference. Can you explain? ============== If you create a new account each time you upload a GEDCOM file rather than replacing an old one, then both databases are now online. If you replace the current GEDCOM with a new one, then only one database exists. Do a search for someone in your database and see how many duplicate entries you find by the same person. This was one of the main reasons I do not allow download of my databases. I found the same people over and over uploading the same info rather than replacing old databases with new ones. pat

List, This next message might help you understand why I am having trouble understanding much about the accounts. I have had problems with my logins for rw accounts some time, as well as incorrect info in my rw account. I remember trying to merge accounts when wc was making changes to these accounts some time ago and had problem then. I'll explain. Apparently the same login form is used for both my personal rw account and my wc account. Very confusing. If I login from here, the first window I see is the "tree adminstration" page that lists all of my gedcoms and where I can manage them. https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/signin If I login from the homepage of rootsweb by selecting, my account, the very same login box appears, url follows, but a page to my rootsweb account opens from where I cannot access my wc gedcoms. Additionally, some of the info in that window is wrong. And, I have tried several times to remove some of the mailing lists listed by choosing "unsubscribe" but they remain listed and I only get error messages from the lists because I am not subscribed. Additionally, the category "Freepages Accounts" lists a broken link to a very old website that has not existed for years. https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/signin?kurl=http:%2F%2Fwc%2Erootsweb%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fwcus The urls to login are different but very similar but the page info is slightly different. Is this correct? There seems to be no way to access the two from one login. Is this correct? Lorrie

I guess I did not state my question very well. I do not create new accounts each time I upload. I just asked for an explanation for the difference between the two terms. Lorrie On 02/18/11 16:29, Pat Geary wrote: > At 05:17 PM 2/18/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> I don't understand the difference. Can you explain? > ============== > > If you create a new account each time you upload a GEDCOM file rather > than replacing an old one, then both databases are now online. If you > replace the current GEDCOM with a new one, then only one database exists. > > Do a search for someone in your database and see how many duplicate > entries you find by the same person. This was one of the main reasons > I do not allow download of my databases. I found the same people over > and over uploading the same info rather than replacing old databases > with new ones. > > pat

At 03:34 PM 2/18/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >I see the option to "replace tree with new gedcom". I missed it before. >So will the other many logins I have from the previous version of wc go >away with time? I hope so. And, I hope that someday a click will allow >us, and visitors, to see all of the gedcoms we have. This might reveal >some unknown relationships. Thanks. ============== Are you saying that each time you have updated your GEDCOM on WC you have uploaded a new file rather than replace the old one?? If so, you may want to read this http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/clean-up-your-online-trees/ not sure who much of it is still valid. pat

You will need to go into each tree you want to delete to delete it. On the tree you want to keep, read your management page well. I have my complete databases {mine, son's, and husbands} uploaded, but the public only gets to see what I want them to see. To update I upload a replacement Gedcom. -----Original Message----- From: Lorrie Laskey Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:17 PM Cc: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] world connect Pat, I don't understand the difference. Can you explain? Lorrie On 02/18/11 15:32, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 03:34 PM 2/18/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> I see the option to "replace tree with new gedcom". I missed it before. >> So will the other many logins I have from the previous version of wc go >> away with time? I hope so. And, I hope that someday a click will allow >> us, and visitors, to see all of the gedcoms we have. This might reveal >> some unknown relationships. Thanks. > ============== > > Are you saying that each time you have updated your GEDCOM on WC you > have uploaded a new file rather than replace the old one?? > > If so, you may want to read this > http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/clean-up-your-online-trees/ > > not sure who much of it is still valid. > > pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, I don't understand the difference. Can you explain? Lorrie On 02/18/11 15:32, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 03:34 PM 2/18/2011, Lorrie Laskey wrote: >> I see the option to "replace tree with new gedcom". I missed it before. >> So will the other many logins I have from the previous version of wc go >> away with time? I hope so. And, I hope that someday a click will allow >> us, and visitors, to see all of the gedcoms we have. This might reveal >> some unknown relationships. Thanks. > ============== > > Are you saying that each time you have updated your GEDCOM on WC you > have uploaded a new file rather than replace the old one?? > > If so, you may want to read this > http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/clean-up-your-online-trees/ > > not sure who much of it is still valid. > > pat

Hi Rose, Yes you can make events private in RM as well. It doesn't look like you can select what facts not to print from the reports menu. So I would have to go to every person each time to change the event settings. Unless I don't use private facts for anthing else, that might work. I do use private notes, but I've never had a need to use private facts yet. I eventually want to make a book for my children and don't want it cluttered with html codes. :-) I also have family who are older and do not use computers, so I need to be able to print files to share with them. I was just looking at your site, your using the Legacy pedagree style I really like. I wish RM had a style that was like that! I might switch to exporting my gedcom into Legacy and generating my pages from that. I was playing with it localy and it works well. Just an extra step to take. Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Lee Wall" <roseleewall@gmail.com> To: "'Patricia Geary'" <patgeary@comcast.net>; "'Kim Mills'" <kim.mills@wightman.ca>; <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > Kim, in Legacy you have the option of making events private. I have my > html > code in the location field of custom events. When I generate reports, I > make > those 4 events private. I don't know if you can selectively make events > private in RM but you could explore that option. > > Rose Lee Wall ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

Hi Kim, How about you change the width of your banner? You have it in your css as width: 1000px; Try taking it out and have the height set at around height: 170px; Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/

Rose and all, I see the option to "replace tree with new gedcom". I missed it before. So will the other many logins I have from the previous version of wc go away with time? I hope so. And, I hope that someday a click will allow us, and visitors, to see all of the gedcoms we have. This might reveal some unknown relationships. Thanks. Lorrie On 02/18/11 14:05, Rose Lee Wall wrote: > When I log in here > https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/signin?kurl=http:%2F%2Fwc%2Erootsweb%2Ecom%2F > cgi%2Dbin%2Fwcus I see all 5 of my trees and can move easily between them > when making changes. I have the same email and same login associated with > all. If you set yours up with different information, your options may be > different. > > Rose Lee Wall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorrie Laskey > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:41 PM > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FreeHelp] world connect > > List, > > Does anyone know if there might be plans to improve world connect > accounts in the future? Specifically, the feature to see all gedcoms > associated with an account holder. For example, if a visitor finds one > of my gedcoms but would like to see all of my gedcoms, clicking on my > email could produce a list of all gedcoms associated with my account. I > know when I log into wc, I have this option, though others don't see it. > > Also, will our logins be minimized to one login? Currently, to see and > update my many wc gedcoms, I must log into each one. One login to access > all would be more efficient. As I stated above, I can see them but I > can't select them individually to update them. Does this exist and I am > missing this feature? > > Lorrie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

At 02:21 PM 2/18/2011, Kim Mills wrote: >I was wondering when you enter links into your notes to display images or >other content. How do you not get the same html formatting not to show in a >text report? Unless you keep two databases one for online work and one for >text reports? ============ Since I almost never print out reports from my genealogy program anymore, I enter the notes and links to image using this way of doing it http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/worldconnect-and-html.html If anyone needs a copy of a report, I refer them to a link to the WorldConnect database for both the individual or the register report. Since I also include my sources on wc, they get it all. Not sure if this answers your question or not. pat

So true Pat what works for one isn't necessary right for another. I have 3 genealogy programs. RM is the best fit for how I like to enter data. But there are a few options that I like the other two programs for. I was wondering when you enter links into your notes to display images or other content. How do you not get the same html formatting not to show in a text report? Unless you keep two databases one for online work and one for text reports? I know RootsMagic doesn't pars urls you put in notes to links. But I *think* you can use html in the notes. I haven't done this because I don't know how to keep the html code from cluttering up text reports. I could mark the coding with { } to make them private, but then I can't use it for real private notes. So that wont work well. Now one nice thing about Legacy's web generator is it DOES put the images attached to your notes on the page. But only the first image you have marked. So if you have a marriage certificate that has two sides of info it will only display 1 of the images. But you could add html to the notes to display them. But again it would clutter your text print outs. Legacy also doesn't make css styled pages they are html unless you buy an add on. Not expensive I just can't afford anything extra right now. I've really enjoyed reading how other set up there sites and what they use to make them! Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Geary" <patgeary@comcast.net> To: <bilwalsh@swbell.net>; <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > We have each chosen a different way to present our genealogy data. > That does not make one right and the other wrong. My way is easier > for me and yours is easier for you. Each of us makes that decision. > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

When I log in here https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/signin?kurl=http:%2F%2Fwc%2Erootsweb%2Ecom%2F cgi%2Dbin%2Fwcus I see all 5 of my trees and can move easily between them when making changes. I have the same email and same login associated with all. If you set yours up with different information, your options may be different. Rose Lee Wall -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorrie Laskey Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:41 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] world connect List, Does anyone know if there might be plans to improve world connect accounts in the future? Specifically, the feature to see all gedcoms associated with an account holder. For example, if a visitor finds one of my gedcoms but would like to see all of my gedcoms, clicking on my email could produce a list of all gedcoms associated with my account. I know when I log into wc, I have this option, though others don't see it. Also, will our logins be minimized to one login? Currently, to see and update my many wc gedcoms, I must log into each one. One login to access all would be more efficient. As I stated above, I can see them but I can't select them individually to update them. Does this exist and I am missing this feature? Lorrie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kim, in Legacy you have the option of making events private. I have my html code in the location field of custom events. When I generate reports, I make those 4 events private. I don't know if you can selectively make events private in RM but you could explore that option. Rose Lee Wall -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Geary Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:32 PM To: Kim Mills; freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes At 02:21 PM 2/18/2011, Kim Mills wrote: >I was wondering when you enter links into your notes to display images or >other content. How do you not get the same html formatting not to show in a >text report? Unless you keep two databases one for online work and one for >text reports? ============ Since I almost never print out reports from my genealogy program anymore, I enter the notes and links to image using this way of doing it http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/worldconnect-and-html.html If anyone needs a copy of a report, I refer them to a link to the WorldConnect database for both the individual or the register report. Since I also include my sources on wc, they get it all. Not sure if this answers your question or not. pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 01:39 PM 2/18/2011, Billie Walsh wrote: >GEDcom's can't carry all the information. > >The genealogy software I use now generates great web pages but they are >not editable so every time I wanted to make a change it would be a >completely new website that had to be uploaded. ============== As far as I know they Notes section of my PAF Program can contain whatever I put in it including links to the narrative part of my site, or another site for that matter. Images or the complete text of a will or whatever can also be included. It depends on how you choose to use it. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tuckerfamily&id=I1242 We have each chosen a different way to present our genealogy data. That does not make one right and the other wrong. My way is easier for me and yours is easier for you. Each of us makes that decision. pat

This was written quite some time ago but it bears repeating. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/creating-site-navigation.htm Why is it important to provide consistent navigation with your website? Not everyone who visits your site is going to enter through your front door or Home Page. If they enter at any one of the pages within your site, are they going to be able to find their way around? This is especially true if you have a large site with many, many sections and pages. Taking the time when you first start with your site will save you hours of work later on. Think about the navigation of YOUR site before it gets to big. pat g

List, Does anyone know if there might be plans to improve world connect accounts in the future? Specifically, the feature to see all gedcoms associated with an account holder. For example, if a visitor finds one of my gedcoms but would like to see all of my gedcoms, clicking on my email could produce a list of all gedcoms associated with my account. I know when I log into wc, I have this option, though others don't see it. Also, will our logins be minimized to one login? Currently, to see and update my many wc gedcoms, I must log into each one. One login to access all would be more efficient. As I stated above, I can see them but I can't select them individually to update them. Does this exist and I am missing this feature? Lorrie

Thanks Billie, But I'm afraid that wouldn't work for me. I update my file often so I would need to restyle every page by hand each time if I did it that way. I can live with the text wrapping around the left menu on the genealogy pages. But I would like to figure out how to get the divs set right... Or I could just take the left menu off the RM pages. Not sure yet lol. Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] site setup and includes > browser. I have never had to generate a new website in all the years > it's been online. > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3451 - Release Date: 02/18/11

At 12:50 PM 2/18/2011, Billie Walsh wrote: >I have never had to generate a new website in all the years >it's been online. ============ Do you never update the GEDCOM file? I do quite often when I receive new information or I find new sources or someone contacts me with a correction to info they have provided earlier. If I had created the site by generating it from the GEDCOM file from my genealogy program, I would need to regenerate the pages. Which is why I prefer WorldConnect. I simply replace the GEDCOM and the new pages are generated for me. pat

On 02/18/2011 11:56 AM, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 12:50 PM 2/18/2011, Billie Walsh wrote: >> I have never had to generate a new website in all the years >> it's been online. > ============ > > Do you never update the GEDCOM file? I do quite often when I receive > new information or I find new sources or someone contacts me with a > correction to info they have provided earlier. If I had created the > site by generating it from the GEDCOM file from my genealogy program, > I would need to regenerate the pages. Which is why I prefer > WorldConnect. I simply replace the GEDCOM and the new pages are > generated for me. > > pat > No need to. I modify, or add new, pages as necessary. Just this past week I modified a page to add an obituary. When I discovered my GGGGrandfather died in Hunnewell Kansas all I had to do was edit one line on a page and upload that page. No need to generate a whole new GEDcom. Since the site was created I've probably added fifteen or twenty new pages. Changes are simple and fast. The thing is, on World Connect you can't do this with a gedcom: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/data/dat35.htm#1 GEDcom's can't carry all the information. The genealogy software I use now generates great web pages but they are not editable so every time I wanted to make a change it would be a completely new website that had to be uploaded. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

At 11:33 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote: >Thanks Pat, I do have a tree on worldconnect but I don't like it as >much as a website style. Just personal preference I guess, I like >more of a narrative style. Although I like Legacy's pedigree pages >much better then RM's. I might switch to their style at some point. > >Anyway would I be entering the new divs in the RM html editor like I >did with the includes code? Or would this need to be added by hand >to every page RM generates? >Would I be adding the first part of the div in the RM header html >area were the header, top menu and left menu is and then add the >closing DIV in the top of the footer html area? >Just trying to understand what I'm doing. LOL ============ The content div has to surround the content that RM generates so not sure how you will need to do it as I have not worked with that program. Barry's page shows you how it works For others who might be interested in the setup I use. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=gearyfamily&id=I76 register report for Peter Gary http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gearyfamily&id=I76 individual report for Peter Gary with all sources included. As you can see from the top of the page, there is a link to the narrative part of my site http://www.family-genealogy-online.com/Geary/ located on its own domain but could just as easily be a freepages site. When I update the database, all I have to do is to replace the old with the new. No reformatting required. The narrative part of the site is updated as I find new info I might want to add to that part of the site. I can also link to any of the register reports from the narrative portion of the site. pat