At 10:55 AM 7/9/2011, Heidi wrote: >Am having problems with one of my pages. After doing some work and >uploading it does not display right. I have checked it in FrontPage 2003 >(Preview) also previewed in browser from FP 2003. Everything looks good. The >page can be found at: > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily/waltzgenealogy.htm > >Would appreciate for someone to take a look. My OS is Windows 7 and I am >using IE9. Thank you for your help. Heidi, Without seeing your code before it is uploaded to RW, I can't be sure, but it looks like you may have some unclosed DIV tags. Use the W3C Validator (or another of your preference) to check the file on your computer before uploading. http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_upload Pat Asher
At 02:03 PM 7/9/2011, Heidi wrote: >Thank you for your prompt reply. Unfortunately this is code that Rootsweb >puts in. It is not on my page at my computer, and because of that I can not >remove it. The only time you can see it is when you "View Source" in the >browser. So it appears that I have to notify the powers that be at Rootsweb. ================= Then you may have something wrong with the coding on your page on your computer that allows the RootsWeb banner code to be inserted in the wrong place. Make sure your tags are open and closed including these: Well that did not come through as it should have so try this instead http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/html-document-structure.html Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html
At 02:03 PM 7/9/2011, Heidi wrote: >Thank you for your prompt reply. Unfortunately this is code that Rootsweb >puts in. It is not on my page at my computer, and because of that I can not >remove it. The only time you can see it is when you "View Source" in the >browser. So it appears that I have to notify the powers that be at Rootsweb. ================= Then you may have something wrong with the coding on your page on your computer that allows the RootsWeb banner code to be inserted in the wrong place. Make sure your tags are open and closed including these: doctype goes here <html> <head> head content</head> <body>content of your page </body> </html> Pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html
Hi Lorrie, Thank you for your prompt reply. Unfortunately this is code that Rootsweb puts in. It is not on my page at my computer, and because of that I can not remove it. The only time you can see it is when you "View Source" in the browser. So it appears that I have to notify the powers that be at Rootsweb. Thanks for helping, Heidi Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily --------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: lrlaskey Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 12:10 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Page does not display properly Heidi, The problem is caused by the placement of your pages html. It is somehow placed in one of Rootsweb's divs. <div id="RootsBanner-SearchWrapper"> This div, being a search div, is not very tall so your content does not display. To fix it, delete it but check afterward that something else does not break. Your page's html should begin after this line of html code. <div id="userContentFP" style="padding: 8px;"> Lorrie On 07/09/11 09:55, Heidi wrote: > Hi list, > > Am having problems with one of my pages. After doing some work and > uploading it does not display right. I have checked it in FrontPage 2003 > (Preview) also previewed in browser from FP 2003. Everything looks good. > The > page can be found at: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily/waltzgenealogy.htm > > Would appreciate for someone to take a look. My OS is Windows 7 and I am > using IE9. Thank you for your help. > > Kind regards, > > Heidi Boos-Utley > Email: hutley@greenhills.net > URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Heidi, you'll probably have more expert help, but I copied your source code, then removed the roots banners at the top, got the same result of only the top of your table appearing; then removed <div id="userContentFP" style="padding: 8px;"> <div id="RootsBanner-SearchWrapper"> <script type="text/javascript">function mailto(domain,user) { document.location.href="mailto:"+user+"@"+domain;}</script> whereupon your complete table appeared, with the inset links table. Hope this helps - Caroline (old e-address, still valid: tilburycm@netscape.net) ____ Poems written to celebrate Liverpool's 800th anniversary http://www.poem800.com/index.php "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html AlanT's London families, including his globetrotters, & Edward-the-warehouse T http://www.arext.plus.com/ "The Bingham Line" (with HMS Tilbury in WW1) http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~bingham Every path has its puddle. -----Original Message----- From: Heidi <hutley@greenhills.net> To: freepages-help <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:56 Subject: [FreeHelp] Page does not display properly Hi list, Am having problems with one of my pages. After doing some work and uploading it does not display right. I have checked it in FrontPage 2003 (Preview) also previewed in browser from FP 2003. Everything looks good. The page can be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily/waltzgenealogy.htm Would appreciate for someone to take a look. My OS is Windows 7 and I am using IE9. Thank you for your help. Kind regards, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Heidi, The problem is caused by the placement of your pages html. It is somehow placed in one of Rootsweb's divs. <div id="RootsBanner-SearchWrapper"> This div, being a search div, is not very tall so your content does not display. To fix it, delete it but check afterward that something else does not break. Your page's html should begin after this line of html code. <div id="userContentFP" style="padding: 8px;"> Lorrie On 07/09/11 09:55, Heidi wrote: > Hi list, > > Am having problems with one of my pages. After doing some work and > uploading it does not display right. I have checked it in FrontPage 2003 > (Preview) also previewed in browser from FP 2003. Everything looks good. The > page can be found at: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily/waltzgenealogy.htm > > Would appreciate for someone to take a look. My OS is Windows 7 and I am > using IE9. Thank you for your help. > > Kind regards, > > Heidi Boos-Utley > Email: hutley@greenhills.net > URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi list, Am having problems with one of my pages. After doing some work and uploading it does not display right. I have checked it in FrontPage 2003 (Preview) also previewed in browser from FP 2003. Everything looks good. The page can be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily/waltzgenealogy.htm Would appreciate for someone to take a look. My OS is Windows 7 and I am using IE9. Thank you for your help. Kind regards, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily
Your URL will be: http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~youraccountname/ NOTE: The part that says school-alumni will change depending on which "community" you use to hold your website. For example, you might choose the genealogy community, so genealogy will be in your URL. You can think of each "community" as a separate "website" but all using the same Account Name. NOTE: When you first go to your URL, it will say "Page Not Found" for each "Community" until you upload yourr first page. Your first page must have the file name of "index.htm" or "index.html" -- which is how the server finds your website. TIP: If you use the "miscellaneous" community it can act as a "front door" for all the communities you use. All you need to do is use navigation from the index.htm(l) file on misc to the index.htm(l) file of another community. File Manager (File Man) is the first result (non-ad result) if you google the phrases together::: freepages+File Manager Log in with your account name and password. File Manager can be confusing when you first see it AND it will also be "empty" of files/folders the first time. There is a top button to change the community. Just ask about anything you don't understand after that. TIP: Make a temporary dummy file named "index.htm" or html and upload it just so you can practice using file manager. As an example, your dummy page could just say "This is my website". TIP: Make a folder called images to practice making a folder AND to see how to make a folder using File Manager. You will likely need an images folder, so no need to delete it. After you see how things upload, go back and edit your index.html file with the info you want seen. Re-upload the same file, and select to overwrite the first one you uploaded. TIP: Pick ONE file extension (htm OR html ) and use the same one on all files you make. Use lowercase letters in file names. Judy
At 07:46 AM 7/2/2011, Lynda Plotinski wrote: >I'm feeling sheepish -- how do I log into my own page? I've got the >password, etc., but where do I use it???? ============ http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/fileman/file_manager.cgi Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html
I'm feeling sheepish -- how do I log into my own page? I've got the password, etc., but where do I use it????
This is your correct address http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dearbornboutwell You were missing a slash (/) after the .com. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Phyllis Dearborn Sent: Friday, 01 July, 2011 6:31 AM To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] HELP!!! I am so confused! I purchased an FTP program (Ipswich). I followed the instructions and copied/downloaded my html file into the freepages genealogy section. When I try to access the site using your web address: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~dearbornboutwell I can't find anything - What have I done wrong?? any ideas???
At 08:31 AM 7/1/2011, Phyllis Dearborn wrote: >I am so confused! > >I purchased an FTP program (Ipswich). > >I followed the instructions and copied/downloaded my html file into the >freepages genealogy section. > >When I try to access the site using your web address: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~dearbornboutwell > >I can't find anything - > >What have I done wrong?? any ideas??? ==================== Try this url http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dearbornboutwell/ Notice the slash {/} before the tilde {~} I would strongly suggest you resize the image you are using as no one with dialup is gonna wait while the HUMONGOUS image loads. Use a graphics editor and make it a much smaller size, then link to a larger image but not as large as you currently have. The same is true with your link to the ancestor pages. They are much too long. Just because a page can be created with all of the information on it does not mean it should be presented that way. You may find this helpful http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html It is a free book on working with your freepages account. Pat
I am so confused! I purchased an FTP program (Ipswich). I followed the instructions and copied/downloaded my html file into the freepages genealogy section. When I try to access the site using your web address: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~dearbornboutwell I can't find anything - What have I done wrong?? any ideas???
Sorry for listing 2 addresses, both work but the first one does not have non-address characters. Lorrie On 07/01/11 07:50, lrlaskey wrote: > The address is wrong. Try this. The image is huge you may want to shrink > it for faster loading time and to make viewing easier, especially for > small screens. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dearbornboutwell/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edearbornboutwell/> > > Lorrie > > > On 07/01/11 07:31, Phyllis Dearborn wrote: >> I am so confused! >> >> I purchased an FTP program (Ipswich). >> >> I followed the instructions and copied/downloaded my html file into the >> freepages genealogy section. >> >> When I try to access the site using your web address: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~dearbornboutwell >> >> I can't find anything - >> >> What have I done wrong?? any ideas??? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toFREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
The address is wrong. Try this. The image is huge you may want to shrink it for faster loading time and to make viewing easier, especially for small screens. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dearbornboutwell/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Edearbornboutwell/> Lorrie On 07/01/11 07:31, Phyllis Dearborn wrote: > I am so confused! > > I purchased an FTP program (Ipswich). > > I followed the instructions and copied/downloaded my html file into the > freepages genealogy section. > > When I try to access the site using your web address: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~dearbornboutwell > > I can't find anything - > > What have I done wrong?? any ideas??? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toFREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Yes but it is only TWO. Title tag provides the page title. This appears on the top of the browser bar but is not obvious. However it is name shown in a Bookmark. H1 appears to be a title as it is usually the top line of the text in the page so it very noticeable. Of course you could use h2 or whatever even <b> to show a header. h1 is understood to be important in SEO tagging by search engines. But a Title tag really should be used. And for Genealogy it is good to use the Surname of the site as the first word in Title on the main index page as that appears in Rootsweb listing of the site. As I journey around the web and bookmark pages I am surprised at how many have a Title like "Home" Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-24 2:47 AM, lrlaskey wrote: > Got it. Three titles are being discussed, title tag, h1 and page title. > Lorrie
Hi Ron, Just a quick comment - well, two comments. Not all websites hosted in freepages have a surname in RW's indexing. Mine in freepages are all county sites. ;-) You're right about the overuse of "Home" or "Home page" or even "New Page". Judy On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Ron Lankshear <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > But a Title tag really should be used. And for > Genealogy it is good to use the Surname of the > site as the first word in Title on the main index > page as that appears in Rootsweb listing of the site. > > As I journey around the web and bookmark pages I > am surprised at how many have a Title like "Home" > >
At 11:44 AM 6/23/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >I was not talking about domain names. In freepages, for example, the >domain of freepages.rootsweb.ancestry, or my account name would be similar >to a domain name. Who'd want an overall website name of the freepages >phases or a website name as "Florian"? (lol) ============ This was a comment on another post NOT yours. See below: There may some confusion here, if I understand the discussion. One refers to the sites title, which is typically the same as the domain name and is show on every page to let viewers know where they are. The second refers t the title of the page itself which describes the page's contents. Pat
Got it. Three titles are being discussed, title tag, h1 and page title. Lorrie On 06/23/11 08:29, Patricia Geary wrote: > At 09:18 AM 6/23/2011, lrlaskey wrote: >> There may some confusion here, if I understand the discussion. One >> refers to the sites title, which is typically the same as the domain >> name and is show on every page to let viewers know where they are. The >> second refers t the title of the page itself which describes the page's >> contents. > > The <title> tag defines the title of the document. > > The title element is required in all HTML/XHTML documents. > > The title element: > > * defines a title in the browser toolbar (at the top of the > browser window EXCEPT in IE9) > * provides a title for the page when it is added to favorites > * displays a title for the page in search-engine results > > > The <h1> to <h6> tags are used to define HTML headings. > > <h1> defines the most important heading. <h6> defines the least > important heading. > > Heading tags are used by search engines to identify words which are > more important than the rest of the page text. The theory is that > headings will sum up the topic of the page, so they are counted as > important keywords. > > So if your page is about say the Boone Family Genealogy, that would be > both the title of the page and the h1 tag for that page. I would not > use the domain name for the title of the page. > > Example: My domain name is family-genealogy-online.com BUT I would NOT > want that as the title of my page. I would choose the title and the h1 > tag for what the page is actually about - Little Family Genealogy or > Bayless Family History by Virginia Bayless O'Connell > > As for branding the site, I use the same masthead on all of my pages > which is the site name. > http://www.family-genealogy-online.com/images/leaves-logo2.jpg > > pat >
I was not talking about domain names. In freepages, for example, the domain of freepages.rootsweb.ancestry, or my account name would be similar to a domain name. Who'd want an overall website name of the freepages phases or a website name as "Florian"? (lol) Instead, I was talking about thinking about and choosing a descriptive overall "name" for your website which would be used on all pages in the top area. The overall name makes a site identifiable as a cohesive unit -- or "branding". Since all users of freepages can't put our "branding" (our website "name") in the URL as we could do at a dot.com, all I was saying was, think about how you want your whole website to be known and develop a "Short Descriptive WebSITE Name". I never said to use the Website name as an any H tag, whether 1, 2, or 3. H tags are for ON-page "titles". (The H1 title, ideally, should match or closely match what you put in your title TAG for THAT page.) ON the page, I use the "Website Name" as a header (header meaning, at the top, mast area -- like how newspapers consistently identify "this is xxx newspaper" by putting it across the top of each page of the paper. Or, a Website Name can be compared to assigning a Title//A Name for a book you're writing). Under that area with the Website Name is the ON-page H1 tagged, "This is the title of THIS page". (Therefore, the H1 is like the title of a newspaper Article, or like the title of a chapter in a book.) So my website name is Washington County PAGenWeb. ON the page, in the uppermost/top/mast section is that name. Below that would be my H1 "This is what I named THIS page" As an example, "Jones Family" as an ON-page title is much less descriptive than an ON-page title of "Jones Family of Auld Country, Scotland" or "1844 Will for Tom Jones of Amwell Township", etc. My comment about Mast head was referring to a mast IMAGE where I'd still need to use text in the code to tell Browsers what the Mast Image says. It's easier, IMO, to just make it an include for the Website Name. If the include uses an image, you still need the text. All of my other comments were about HEAD TAGS (in the coding). And it's acceptable to use the Website Name WITH the unique page name in the title tag. I stated I found it best to put Unique First_Followed by Website Name/branding. There will never be 2 pages with the same Title Tag, as long as the unique part is included and I found it best to use the unique in the first in the title tag. As examples: <.title>The John Jones Family_Washington Co PAGenWeb</title> <.title>John Jones 1800-1844_Washington Co PAGenWeb</title> <.title>Mary Jones d. 1816 wife of Mathew Jones_Washington Co PAGenWeb</title> <.title>1813 Will of Josiah Jones_Washington Co PAGenWeb</title> Same with the Description tag and Keyword Tag--- load the unique qualifiers first, then the ones that apply to all pages (for YOUR site) like family history, genealogy, genealogical research (etc). Judy On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net>wrote: > At 09:18 AM 6/23/2011, lrlaskey wrote: > >There may some confusion here, if I understand the discussion. One > >refers to the sites title, which is typically the same as the domain > >name and is show on every page to let viewers know where they are. The > >second refers t the title of the page itself which describes the page's > >contents. > > The <title> tag defines the title of the document. > > The title element is required in all HTML/XHTML documents. > > The title element: > > * defines a title in the browser toolbar (at the top of the > browser window EXCEPT in IE9) > * provides a title for the page when it is added to favorites > * displays a title for the page in search-engine results > > > The <h1> to <h6> tags are used to define HTML headings. > > <h1> defines the most important heading. <h6> defines the least > important heading. > > Heading tags are used by search engines to identify words which are > more important than the rest of the page text. The theory is that > headings will sum up the topic of the page, so they are counted as > important keywords. > > So if your page is about say the Boone Family Genealogy, that would > be both the title of the page and the h1 tag for that page. I would > not use the domain name for the title of the page. > > Example: My domain name is family-genealogy-online.com BUT I would > NOT want that as the title of my page. I would choose the title and > the h1 tag for what the page is actually about - Little Family > Genealogy or Bayless Family History by Virginia Bayless O'Connell > > As for branding the site, I use the same masthead on all of my pages > which is the site name. > http://www.family-genealogy-online.com/images/leaves-logo2.jpg > > pat >