At 08:40 PM 8/21/2011, Rawls Family wrote: > A few weeks ago I started transferring my web site to rootsweb > freepages at > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/Index.htm > at which time I regestered the new site via the form at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hsr where I included many of the > surnames associated with my site. In attempting to re enter the > info I am notified that the site is already 'regestered'. >To date I have not seen any reference to my site at >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~websites/ or any other rootsweb >website or surname lists for that matter. What if anything must I do >to get a cross reference to my site? I note that google has already >referenced several of my new pages already! ============ Don, you might find these two publications helpful in working with your FreePages site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html Both are free. pat
At 08:18 AM 8/22/2011, Rawls Family wrote: >I have removed the "The" and we will see if it helps (could not find it >under the "T"s either) but still wonder what all the "Please enter up to 10 >surnames associated with your site." is about at the Hosted Site >Registration (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hsr) if it does nothing? Your site is listed under "resources" for the surname RAWLS at http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/surnames/r/a/RAWLS/ The listing of surname websites at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~websites/ is updated less often, and it may take several weeks to appear there. You are not properly indexed in the Freepages index of websites because you have named your home page "Index.html" -- with a capital "I". Change the name of the page to use all lower case letters and it should be included in the next update. BTW, the Freepages indexer ignores articles such as "A" and "The". "The Rawls of Dorset" would be indexed under "R". Pat Asher
In my header along with a whole bunch of other stuff I had this <head> <title>The Rawls of Dorset<title> <head> I have removed the "The" and we will see if it helps (could not find it under the "T"s either) but still wonder what all the "Please enter up to 10 surnames associated with your site." is about at the Hosted Site Registration (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hsr) if it does nothing?
In your HEAD section you have <title>The Rawls of Dorset</title> So your page is indexed (registered) under the T's for "The". I think all I did was change my HEAD title tag to get mine to be in the Letter Indexing that I wanted. i.e. drop the "The". Judy On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Rawls Family <rawfam46@gmail.com> wrote: > A few weeks ago I started transferring my web site to rootsweb freepages > at http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/Index.htmat which time I regestered the new site via the form at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hsr where I included many of the surnames > associated with my site. In attempting to re enter the info I am notified > that the site is already 'regestered'. > To date I have not seen any reference to my site at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~websites/ or any other rootsweb website > or surname lists for that matter. What if anything must I do to get a cross > reference to my site? I note that google has already referenced several of > my new pages already! > > > Don Rawls
A few weeks ago I started transferring my web site to rootsweb freepages at http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/Index.htm at which time I regestered the new site via the form at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hsr where I included many of the surnames associated with my site. In attempting to re enter the info I am notified that the site is already 'regestered'. To date I have not seen any reference to my site at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~websites/ or any other rootsweb website or surname lists for that matter. What if anything must I do to get a cross reference to my site? I note that google has already referenced several of my new pages already! Don Rawls
I had sent the same info to the person's email address. He replied and said thank you, and it sounded like he'd gotten several replies. Judy On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ralph Taylor <rt-sails@comcast.net> wrote: > Re: "Can anyone tell me how to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of > my choice instead of what Microsoft wants." > > I think the problem is in thinking about what to make FrontPage do, instead > of what to make Windows do. > > Windows ships with pre-set defaults, but you can change them. You can set > your Windows Registry to call certain programs based on their file name > extension. > > Let's say you want to use Photoshop to edit JPEG files. They'll have > extensions of either .jpg or .jpeg. Open your Windows Control Panel and > look for "File Associations", scroll down to the .jpg or .jpeg extensions > and select the program you want from the list of installed programs you > have. From then on, those files will open with Photoshop. > > Or -- within FP -- right-click the file name and select "Open with". Then > choose the program you want from the list. > >
At 04:34 PM 8/19/2011, you wrote: >FOR MY FREEPAGES ACCOUNT > The members of the Freepages-Help list can not change your account registration. To do that, write to accounts@rootsweb.com They will need your old address, your new address, and your password or some other means of identification. To change your subscription to this list, you need to unsubscribe your old email address by sending an email from that address to freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message subject and body. Subscribe your new address by sending a new email from the new address to freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com with the single word SUBSCRIBE in the message subject and body. Pat Asher Freepages List Admin
Sent this last night but forgot to hit reply to all. So here it is again. At 09:53 AM 8/18/2011, you wrote: >Can anyone help this non-subscriber? Please send a copy of your >reply to him directly. > > >From: wayneal1@aol.com > >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:41:59 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Can anyone tell me how to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of > >my choice instead of what Microsoft wants. Tools > Options > Configure Editors > Select the correct editor for the file type ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/
Re: "Can anyone tell me how to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of my choice instead of what Microsoft wants." I think the problem is in thinking about what to make FrontPage do, instead of what to make Windows do. Windows ships with pre-set defaults, but you can change them. You can set your Windows Registry to call certain programs based on their file name extension. Let's say you want to use Photoshop to edit JPEG files. They'll have extensions of either .jpg or .jpeg. Open your Windows Control Panel and look for "File Associations", scroll down to the .jpg or .jpeg extensions and select the program you want from the list of installed programs you have. From then on, those files will open with Photoshop. Or -- within FP -- right-click the file name and select "Open with". Then choose the program you want from the list. -rt_/) -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:00 AM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 6, Issue 141 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: How to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of my choice instead of what Microsoft wants. (Freeps List Admin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:53:16 -0400 From: Freeps List Admin <freepages-help-admin@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Fwd: How to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of my choice instead of what Microsoft wants. To: Freepages-Help <Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com> Cc: wayneal1@aol.com Message-ID: <257071.92451.qm@smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Can anyone help this non-subscriber? Please send a copy of your reply to him directly. >From: wayneal1@aol.com >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:41:59 -0400 (EDT) > >Can anyone tell me how to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of >my choice instead of what Microsoft wants. Pat Asher Freepages List Admin ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 6, Issue 141 **********************************************
On 19/08/2011 09:00, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > FP 2003 call the graphics editor of > >my choice Tools > Options > Configure Editors tab Scroll down to jpg etc > Highlight Editor > Click the little icon just above that Select the program you want and click OK.
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Can anyone help this non-subscriber? Please send a copy of your reply to him directly. >From: wayneal1@aol.com >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:41:59 -0400 (EDT) > >Can anyone tell me how to make FP 2003 call the graphics editor of >my choice instead of what Microsoft wants. Pat Asher Freepages List Admin
And it is not only an issue to prevent stealing of data...it is a server security issue. Some bots would use so many resources that they would bring down the servers. So there are many reasons for monitoring and preventing bot access. Joan In a message dated 8/4/2011 4:04:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pjroots@att.net writes: Jim, You may be thinking about previous discussions regarding munging of email addresses via JavaScript or other methods. Those methods are employed for browser access, as opposed to a bot accessing the unmunged address directly from the server. Think about it. Any internet company with proprietary data, including RootsWeb or Ancestry, can and does block unwanted bots routinely. Otherwise all of the data they have created or purchased that is stored on their servers could be harvested. For example, insurance companies could steal the entire SSDI, which Ancestry has to pay for. Or Joe Blow Genealogy Services could steal the 1930 census index, etc. Pat
At 11:28 AM 8/4/2011, Jim Loudon wrote: >It is a remarkably unsuccessful enterprise, for reasons previously posted. >Nothing has changed. Jim, You may be thinking about previous discussions regarding munging of email addresses via JavaScript or other methods. Those methods are employed for browser access, as opposed to a bot accessing the unmunged address directly from the server. Think about it. Any internet company with proprietary data, including RootsWeb or Ancestry, can and does block unwanted bots routinely. Otherwise all of the data they have created or purchased that is stored on their servers could be harvested. For example, insurance companies could steal the entire SSDI, which Ancestry has to pay for. Or Joe Blow Genealogy Services could steal the 1930 census index, etc. Pat
I will unsubscribe from all this lovely tech help We are off on a cruise so a chance for R&R Many thanks to everyone for the great help over the years..... -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/
Malicious scanners would ignore robot.txt Those spiders just want email addresses and are not worried about you telling them to stay off. I am not sure if robot.txt works on Freepage sites In Ruth's case it looked like the scam people actually read the site because they put Mather Story in their email. of course their spider perhaps worked out surname and used that in a template. If they are reading the site then nothing will stop them..... I use email in graphic form for cousins on my site. I put them on web page for their family but only if they ask. I do not use Guestbooks I have open Mailto for cousins to contact. And so many do it is wonderful way to find cousins. As was said Gmail has great spam filter facility as does Kaspersky which I pay for but really I want their virus etc function. I am also very experienced at reading emails and knowing scams etc - I really don't understand why people worry about scams from Nigeria - just delete them........... Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-08-04 8:56 AM, Wynthner wrote: > Won't a simple robot.txt keep the spiders out? > >
No, Jim...but I do know about their monitoring of spiders. I can't say whether this is true of Freepages but I do know it applies to the mailing list archives, WorldConnect, etc. Joan In a message dated 8/4/2011 7:51:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listadr@gmail.com writes: Are you a Rootsweb official spokesperson? jim
At 07:49 AM 8/4/2011, Jim Loudon wrote: > > I'm not sure about Freepages but I know in many areas of RootsWeb staff > > monitors which spiders are allowed access to the sites. > >Are you a Rootsweb official spokesperson? 1) As others have said, a robots.txt file in your individual account is useless. To have any effect at all, it must be in the root directory and because of the configuration of the Freepages server, users do not have access to their root directory. 2) The bot must be well mannered and follow the instructions in any robots.txt file. The bots who harvest email addresses are NOT well mannered. They will ignore robots.txt 3) Staff has always monitored server access and been very particular about which bots (spiders) are allowed. Pat
When I started hiding my email address I used a free program (which is very small and you download it to your computer) called "E_Cloaker" which asks you for the email address you want to hide and the alternate text you want to show and then produces something like '<a href="©0¬ etc etc, which you can then paste into any web page, even on rootsweb pages. For an example, go to this page - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~davismcdougall/family/p00030.htm#05238 - and view the source where you will see some very long lines across the page which is the source line for the number in brackets at the start of each entry for a person on that page. No, I don't use E_Cloaker to put these lines in; I have since written the code to build these lines in my own genealogy program, but E_Cloaker would be quite suitable for including a few email addresses on a page. As for Ruth's problem in a guest book, you would have to write some javascript to accept the information the guest entered onto the page and then securely hide from prying eyes. In the guest book only show the name without the email address. The javascript should send the email address to Ruth for safe keeping and never keep it on the web site and if anyone wants to write to another guest they would have to write to Ruth first and ask for the address. Greg On 4/08/2011 4:02 AM, Ralph Taylor wrote: > Ruth wrote: "I'm thinking there is no way to prevent anyone from getting > emails from a guestbook." > > The worst aspect of the malicious-copying-of-email-addresses problem seems > to be harvesting by bots. These programs crawl the Web looking for the > username@domain.net format and dump their finds into lists that are then > sold to spammers. > > There are ways to defeat the bots. Anything that requires human interaction > and disguises addresses to computers makes automated harvesting impractical. > > > Some javascript programs have been written in defense. Many are free and can > be downloaded for use on your site. One ("emailhide.js"?) removes the @ sign > and breaks the rest of the address into username and domain.xxx. Clicking on > text in the site activates the javascript to put the address back together. > I haven't explored whether it's possible to use this javascript inside a > guestbook. > > A non-javascript solution is to have the guestbook form require users to > break their addresses down into parts. One input field would be for the > username, another for the domain. > > -rt_/) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- DAVIS Genealogy Blog - http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com
I'm not sure about Freepages but I know in many areas of RootsWeb staff monitors which spiders are allowed access to the sites. So there are other checks in place in addition to someone using the robots.txt file. Joan In a message dated 8/4/2011 4:08:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listadr@gmail.com writes: FWIW, the robots.txt file for the freepages subdomain is useless to the point of irrelevancy. jim