Not my ancient FTM 4.4! It keeps the same numbers, except where two individuals are merged. So I can export my gedcom to WorldConnect et al. without disturbing links that may have been made to specific pages. On 2011-08-27 18:30, Pat Asher wrote: > AFAIK, FTM has always assigned new ID numbers to individuals each > time a new GEDCOM is exported. -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Little Nine Partners Historical Society Trustee, Webmaster, Life Member http://L9PHS.ORG/ Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/

Sage advice!!! On 2011-08-28 13:09, Pat Asher wrote: > and ALWAYS work on a COPY -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Little Nine Partners Historical Society Trustee, Webmaster, Life Member http://L9PHS.ORG/ Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/

Yes. I am using version 4.4, which IMO is that last good one. After that they just kept adding bells and whistles that just kludged up the UI. I am successfully using it on Vista. -R. On 2011-08-28 16:29, Glen peddy wrote: > I had Family Tree Maker on a 1995 purchsed computer (16 bits). When I purchased new in 2009 (32 bits) the old version would not open. I've found out that the 1995 version was a much better version of FTM than the 2009 version is. I wish I could use my 1995 version of FTM. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Little Nine Partners Historical Society Trustee, Webmaster, Life Member http://L9PHS.ORG/ Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/

Thanks Pat, I have just found your page on using graphics editing software http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/scanning.htm Some of the tools I find quite baffling, but I really must have another concentrated effort. Kind Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Muir Sent: 28 August 2011 16:43 To: 'Pat Asher'; 'Freepages-Help' Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Re - Is an ID number in program XX unique Dear Pat A, What a Photo Album! Your photographs are magnificent. They are so clear, how did you get them like that? You don't seem to have any faded or battered ones at all. Kind Regards, Jill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Pat A, What a Photo Album! Your photographs are magnificent. They are so clear, how did you get them like that? You don't seem to have any faded or battered ones at all. Kind Regards, Jill

Hi Pat G, As a past user of PAF I stopped using it as although I liked it, the program created some odd text. I wondered if you edited your text at all, as it looks absolutely great to me. My web pages created by PAF say things such as: Edward was employed as in Engine Driver. He joined religion in Baptist. I gave it up as it seemed to cause more problems than I thought it worth, some years ago. Kind Regards, Jill

I had Family Tree Maker on a 1995 purchsed computer (16 bits). When I purchased new in 2009 (32 bits) the old version would not open. I've found out that the 1995 version was a much better version of FTM than the 2009 version is. I wish I could use my 1995 version of FTM.

At 11:42 AM 8/28/2011, Jill Muir wrote: >Dear Pat A, >What a Photo Album! >Your photographs are magnificent. They are so clear, how did you get them >like that? You don't seem to have any faded or battered ones at all. Competent graphics editing software is your friend. In my other life, I was a free-lance photographer with my own (film) dark room. Graphics programs such as Paint Shop Pro or Photo Shop do the same retouching digitally that I use to do with film processing, print manipulation, and dyes. Increase contrast to make an image appear sharper. Adjust the histogram curve to retain detail in highlights and dark areas. Use the cloning tool to paint out cracks and scratches. You may want to use masks to adjust different areas of an image in different ways. Whatever software you use, play with all the tools in that program to learn what effect each has, and ALWAYS work on a COPY of the image, not the original. Pat

At 11:10 AM 8/28/2011, Patti Hays wrote: >Pat, your website is beautiful! Thank you :) The design is minimalist, first because that is my taste, and second, because I feel that content is the most important element of a genealogy site. I try to present the content in an attractive way without distracting from it. People with graphic training can use more elaborate designs effectively, but plain vanilla works best for me <g> Pat Asher

At 11:33 AM 8/28/2011, you wrote: >Hi Pat G, >As a past user of PAF I stopped using it as although I liked it, the program >created some odd text. I wondered if you edited your text at all, as it >looks absolutely great to me. > >My web pages created by PAF say things such as: Nope I do no editing of the GEDCOM file pages generated at all. What you see is what is generated by WorldConnect from the GEDCOM file. WHile the program is fairly old and there are no plans to update it, it has served me well for many years thus I stick with it. pat

I've been using PAF for a long time in Windows, and just recently started using it in Linux. [ If you want to know about using it in Linux write me and I will tell you more ] If your like me you have several different computers that you use for different stuff. My desktop(s) at home, laptop for travel and netbooks for ease of use when doing research at the library. I use a program called "Dropbox" to keep everything in line between computers. [ Standard disclaimers apply - I have no interest in nor receive benefit from......... ] I have my PAF database [ walsh.paf ] in Dropbox and any changes are automatically shared across all my computers. Enter data at the library and when I get home, or anyplace that I can get a connection, and connect to the internet the file is updated on all my computers. I share my database across all my computers. Saves loads of time re-entering data from one computer to another by hand. -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Pat, your website is beautiful! Patti Vance Hays ~ You live as long as you are remembered ~ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pattisgenealogypages/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Asher" <pjroots@att.net> To: "Freepages-Help" <Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Re - Is an ID number in program XX unique > At 09:00 AM 8/28/2011, Pat Geary wrote: >>If the record number changes each time you generate a new gedcom, it >>would be almost impossible to maintain the links. > > If a genealogy program changes the record (ID) number each time a new > GEDCOM is generated, instead of linking to individuals, one could > offer a search box instead, as I have at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > The INPUT VALUE= > is coded to only search my WC database. Change that to the name of > your WC database. > > > Pat Asher > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 09:00 AM 8/28/2011, Pat Geary wrote: >If the record number changes each time you generate a new gedcom, it >would be almost impossible to maintain the links. If a genealogy program changes the record (ID) number each time a new GEDCOM is generated, instead of linking to individuals, one could offer a search box instead, as I have at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ The INPUT VALUE= is coded to only search my WC database. Change that to the name of your WC database. Pat Asher

At 07:53 AM 8/28/2011, Rawls Family wrote: >I have yet to upload any gedcoms to world connect having just >finished getting my pages up and running at >http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/index.htm >and previously had them imbedded in my listings, I use PAF (great >program, intuitive to use) but do on occasion merge individuals or >'tidy up' the database and thus the RIN may change. It was my >intention to upload the databases in groups of families rather than >one big database and then simply link to the Rootsweb start page >for that group, this would seem to eliminate any problem with links >changing when updating. Folks can find the individual via the index >on that page, is there any real advantage to linking to individuals >within the gedcom? Thoughts? I prefer to link to the individual rather than the family. While I do on occasion merge records, they are NOT usually the older individuals to whom I am linking. I also tend to link to the register report for an individual so the viewer gets everything at a quick glance. They then can choose to investigate further. If the record number changes each time you generate a new gedcom, it would be almost impossible to maintain the links. pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html

I have yet to upload any gedcoms to world connect having just finished getting my pages up and running at http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/index.htm and previously had them imbedded in my listings, I use PAF (great program, intuitive to use) but do on occasion merge individuals or 'tidy up' the database and thus the RIN may change. It was my intention to upload the databases in groups of families rather than one big database and then simply link to the Rootsweb start page for that group, this would seem to eliminate any problem with links changing when updating. Folks can find the individual via the index on that page, is there any real advantage to linking to individuals within the gedcom? Thoughts? >From the scenic Klondike Hills, Grey County, Ontario, Canada. NEW Web site http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/index.htm Visit my Blog at http://ruralcanadian.blogspot.com/ Democracy requires dialog, please join us at http://democracyunderfire.blogspot.com/

Thanks for the warning Jenny. I shall keep using my older version then. I am not a fan of the new one at all. Kind Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Calvin Sent: 26 August 2011 23:58 To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] versions of FTM Pat recently pointed out to me that most of the links from my Freepages to my WorldConnect file were broken. I did some checking and it appears that the only ones that still work are the ones that were created after I got Family Tree Maker 2010 and then updated my WorldConnect file; the others were from FTM 16. I wrote to FTM and was referred to Rootsweb Help. Here is the response I got: Dear Jenny, We appreciate your message. Yes, the two versions of Family Tree Maker are different enough that would result in individuals being numbered differently and resulting in your redoing your links. Unfortunately the only solution is go through individual to fix the issues. If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know. Daniel RootsWeb Support Team So, any of you who have upgraded from an older version of FTM and then updated your WorldConnect file might want to check your links. Sigh. So much for getting to start on new pages. :-( Jenny ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Legacy 7.5 (I've had it since 7.4) holds the same RIN for the individuals unless you manually select to renumber them. Even then you can control whether to renumber all, some, or just reassign or fill in missing RINs. I have avoided any renumbering since putting my database online because of the many links that could be affected. "Perhaps users of other programs can tell us about their programs. Is an ID number in program XX unique to an individual when that individual is added to the database?"

I run Ancestral Quest 12 and it DOES assign a unique # to each person: http://www.ancquest.com/index.htm Is an ID number in program XX unique to an individual when that individual is added to the database? Pat Asher

At 05:32 PM 8/27/2011, Pat Geary wrote: >I happen to use PAF and have since it first became available. I have >NEVER had a problem with that program changing the numbers of >individuals in the GEDCOM file. When I update the GEDCOM file on the >WorldConnect server, the links from my main site to the WOrldConnect >individual remain intact. My assumption was that all genealogy >programs worked that way when creating GEDCOM files. I guess that is >not true. I wonder how many others, do not function that way? PAF and RootsMagic assign an ID number to an individual when that individual is first added to the database, and that ID number remains the same unless you change it by merging individuals. AFAIK, FTM has always assigned new ID numbers to individuals each time a new GEDCOM is exported. Perhaps users of other programs can tell us about their programs. Is an ID number in program XX unique to an individual when that individual is added to the database? Pat Asher

At 06:57 PM 8/26/2011, Jenny Calvin wrote: >We appreciate your message. Yes, the two versions of Family Tree Maker are >different enough that would result in individuals being numbered differently >and resulting in your redoing your links. Unfortunately the only solution is >go through individual to fix the issues. > >If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us >know. =========== I happen to use PAF and have since it first became available. I have NEVER had a problem with that program changing the numbers of individuals in the GEDCOM file. When I update the GEDCOM file on the WorldConnect server, the links from my main site to the WOrldConnect individual remain intact. My assumption was that all genealogy programs worked that way when creating GEDCOM files. I guess that is not true. I wonder how many others, do not function that way? Pat