I like Yahoo better than Google for Genealogy. Try searching two words, such as your surname funeral. You will get mostly obits. Other words will get much different results from searching only for a name.

I use google search extensively for finding web sites related to individuals and places in my genealogy research, the inclusion of such terms as 'family', ' genealogy', 'history' etc narrow such searches to more suitable results. I also use Advanced Search to search within a site that does not have a good search engine included, this can help greatly in larger sites. Google books also will bring up many historical documents unavailable elsewhere and I have found several references and details about my ancestors via such methods. I generally do not use those 'pay for' sites due to my reluctance to give financial information on line but such sites as Find My Past that have an advanced search can be 'manipulated' by changing the search criteria to reveal much of their content. Takes a little longer but most of the information can be found and viewed this way. The original inquiry was about using google+ (google plus) which seems to be yet another 'social networking' site and apparently requires submitting personal information to join something which we should avoid where ever possible. Such sites may be useful for interaction between individuals on a common subject, such as genealogy, but I fail to see how it can help more than say the Rootsweb Message Boards with actual research and inquires. But then I do not subscribe to ANY social networks! Don R The Rawls of Dorset

Google+ is "Facebook by Google". Hopefully without all the issues there are when using Facebook. If you have an extended family and wanted to set up some kind of family group to share and collaborate it could be a good idea. There are already so many surname lists and query boards for just blind search and share it seems a waste to set up another. As for submitting personal information to a website, all I can say is that there is already plenty of information available if someone is willing to do the work to get it. The information that you might have to submit to Google+ isn't going to make much difference. -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I think that was meant to be "Google+" http://www.pcworld.com/article/234825/9_reasons_to_switch_from_facebook_to_google.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, Has anyone used Google+ in their research? If so, how? I have been using it for other purposes but would love to use it for Genealogy. Lorrie

From: lrlaskey <lrlaskey@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Google+ For Genealogy Research To: Freepages <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4F1861DC.2050906@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello all, Has anyone used Google+ in their research? If so, how? I have been using it for other purposes but would love to use it for Genealogy. Lorrie ------------------------ Why not? I've used it for ages, and still do. It's what got me started on family research.

Google+ appears to have awesome potential to gather groups of genealogists together who would probably never do so in real life. Imagine being able to discuss research, visually share family images and treasures and more. If anyone ever uses it, I would like to hear. Lorrie On 01/20/12 11:45, Linda Kelley wrote: > Google is very useful. I start with Ancestry.com search, then I enter > the surname in Google for other genealogy pages, discussion forums, > family websites and living descendants. This requires patience. > Different results come up if I enter the just the surname, surname > Family, surname Genealogy, surname+the state, etc. White Pages.com is > a free source of addresses and phone numbers. The other people > searches require payment, but we can see cities, related persons, > etc., without paying. With Ancestry, spelling does not have to be > exact, but with the others, you have to enter spelling variations as > separate searches. In come cases, Ancestry.com has Public Records with > people's addresses and phone numbers up to about 1993. Then I enter > living people's full names into Google to check if they have Facebook > or individual websites, and, if I know where they grew up, check > Classmates.com, which requires a subscription. > > Linda > > On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:00 AM, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your > reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it > coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > ***FREEPAGES HELP& FAQ*** > &lt;http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Google+ For Genealogy Research (lrlaskey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:33:00 -0600 > From: lrlaskey<lrlaskey@gmail.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Google+ For Genealogy Research > To: Freepages<Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<4F1861DC.2050906@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello all, > > Has anyone used Google+ in their research? If so, how? I have been using > it for other purposes but would love to use it for Genealogy. > > Lorrie > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7 > ******************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Google is very useful. I start with Ancestry.com search, then I enter the surname in Google for other genealogy pages, discussion forums, family websites and living descendants. This requires patience. Different results come up if I enter the just the surname, surname Family, surname Genealogy, surname+the state, etc. White Pages.com is a free source of addresses and phone numbers. The other people searches require payment, but we can see cities, related persons, etc., without paying. With Ancestry, spelling does not have to be exact, but with the others, you have to enter spelling variations as separate searches. In come cases, Ancestry.com has Public Records with people's addresses and phone numbers up to about 1993. Then I enter living people's full names into Google to check if they have Facebook or individual websites, and, if I know where they grew up, check Classmates.com, which requires a subscription. Linda On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:00 AM, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** &lt;http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Google+ For Genealogy Research (lrlaskey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:33:00 -0600 From: lrlaskey <lrlaskey@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Google+ For Genealogy Research To: Freepages <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4F1861DC.2050906@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello all, Has anyone used Google+ in their research? If so, how? I have been using it for other purposes but would love to use it for Genealogy. Lorrie ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com . __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7 ********************************************

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:33:00 -0600 From: lrlaskey <lrlaskey@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Google+ For Genealogy Research To: Freepages <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4F1861DC.2050906@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello all, Has anyone used Google+ in their research? If so, how? I have been using it for other purposes but would love to use it for Genealogy. Lorrie End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7 Google is an excellent search tool. Quite often I find info on Goggle that A dot C does not have.

Hello all, Has anyone used Google+ in their research? If so, how? I have been using it for other purposes but would love to use it for Genealogy. Lorrie

Not really meant as a question, but rather an indication that progress with the implementation of CSS3 is now enabling web designers to create those fancy eye-catching headings without using Photoshop. The Webkit browsers, i.e. Chrome, Safari and the Mac O/S only Omniweb are progressively implementing various CSS3 proprietry properties (prefixed -webkit-), which will allow you to generate various headings and implement them in the Webkit browsers or substitute with a screenshot image of your work in the other browsers. Rather cheap - a big fat zero - when compared with the cost of Photoshop $$$! The following page by Joss Crowcroft will help explain how it is done:- <http://www.cssreset.com/2010/css-tutorials/fun-with-webkit-background-clip-and-font-face/> A demonstration page which will open in all browsers, but with an image of the demo heading and a statement regarding using either Chrome or Safari browsers if you are currently not, can be found here:- http://countjustonce.com/css3-designs/text-css3-styling.html The difference with the last url is that I have modified the rendering of the heading to demonstrate that linear gradient coloring can also be applied to the selected text only, and added a small amout of blurring to the text shadow. So in short, you can avail yourself of the latest design tools - a knd of "poor man/woman's" Photoshop! Barry

I wrote this message below but it does not seem to have appeared on the List, so am sending again. Best Wishes, Jill http://welshchapelsandchurches.org/ -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir [mailto:jill@shottle.plus.com] Sent: 06 January 2012 16:51 To: jill@shottle.plus.com; 'Ann McClean'; Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox Hello All, I neglected to add the URL, although I had copied it ready to paste. Here is the link to F ree MS Sharepoint Designer http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=21581 My apologies! My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Muir Sent: 06 January 2012 10:16 To: 'Ann McClean'; Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox Dear Ann in my Home Country, Why not get more up to date in designing your website Ann? You can download this free from Microsoft and it is a program virtually like Expression Web first edition. It generates standard, valid HTML and CSS by default. It is great to use for menus in dwts (dynamic web templates). I have used this program and use 'includes' which is such a boon and cuts down on work. Tina Clarke also has a f ree ebook for that. http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/ see the menu. And look for Expression Web 1.0 Setting up Ebook - Free Expression Web 1.0 Setting up Ebook. My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann McClean Sent: 02 January 2012 16:07 To: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox Don't worry; I've always kept the master file on my PC's hard drive :) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's something for those of you finding a need to correct some CSS problem that appears in either the Firefox, Opera or Chrome and Safari browsers. It is well known that the Internet Explorer suite of browsers can be addressed using Conditional Comments, e.g. <!--[if ie 8]> <link rel="stylesheet" href="styles-for-ie8.css"> <![endif]--> With a little modification, the same Conditional Comments can be used to target all other browsers and exclude Internet Explorer, e.g. <!--[if !ie]><!--> <link rel="stylesheet" href="styles-for-not-ie.css"> <!--<![endif]--> The Internet Explorer developers have decided that as from the release of Internet Explorer 10, the support for Conditional Comments will end. The rationale behind that decision is that IE10 will be W3C compliant and the need for web designers to target it separately to all other browsers will therefore end. In my opinion, that decision is misplaced, or its an attempt to take back some of the market share that has been lost to the other browsers before IE's share drops below 50 percent. So how do you sort out problems that may exist between the Gecko (Firefox, SeaMonkey) or Opera and Webkit (Chrome, Safari) browsers? Well, I had a need to do so recently for Firefox when I found that a padding declaration in a <textarea> resulted in padding being applied top and bottom as well as to the outside of the vertical scrollbar. This is a known "bug" in Firefox - first reported in 2002, i.e. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157846 Now Opera, Chrome and Webkit leave the scrollbars alone when padding is applied in the <textarea>, and as I could do without padding on the inside of the scrollbar, I then sought a means of targetting Firefox to remove the padding-right declaration and return the scrollbar to the border of the <textarea>. Luckily, Firefox has a CSS expression that is used for addressing Firefox Extensions and it is application is, e.g. @-moz-document url-prefix() {/* Firefox, SeaMonkey */ textarea {padding-right:0} } Likewise, I have found a similar expression that can be used for addressing the Webkit browsers (Chrome and Safari), e.g. @media screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio:0) {/* Chrome & Safari */ #myDiv {display:none;} } and finally Opera, e.g. @media all and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio:10000), not all and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio:0) {/* Opera */ #myDiv {display:none;} } A page incorporating these CSS detection schemes for various browsers and a variation to the usage of Internet Explorer Conditional Comments is at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/css-ie-target.html Barry

Hello All, I neglected to add the URL, although I had copied it ready to paste. Here is the link to F ree MS Sharepoint Designer http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=21581 My apologies! My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Muir Sent: 06 January 2012 10:16 To: 'Ann McClean'; Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox Dear Ann in my Home Country, Why not get more up to date in designing your website Ann? You can download this free from Microsoft and it is a program virtually like Expression Web first edition. It generates standard, valid HTML and CSS by default. It is great to use for menus in dwts (dynamic web templates). I have used this program and use 'includes' which is such a boon and cuts down on work. Tina Clarke also has a f ree ebook for that. http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/ see the menu. And look for Expression Web 1.0 Setting up Ebook - Free Expression Web 1.0 Setting up Ebook. My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann McClean Sent: 02 January 2012 16:07 To: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox Don't worry; I've always kept the master file on my PC's hard drive :) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Ann in my Home Country, Why not get more up to date in designing your website Ann? You can download this free from Microsoft and it is a program virtually like Expression Web first edition. It generates standard, valid HTML and CSS by default. It is great to use for menus in dwts (dynamic web templates). I have used this program and use 'includes' which is such a boon and cuts down on work. Tina Clarke also has a f ree ebook for that. http://any-expression.com/expression-web/ebooks/ see the menu. And look for Expression Web 1.0 Setting up Ebook - Free Expression Web 1.0 Setting up Ebook. My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann McClean Sent: 02 January 2012 16:07 To: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox Don't worry; I've always kept the master file on my PC's hard drive :)

Don't worry; I've always kept the master file on my PC's hard drive :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Dav4is To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox This is one reason why it is important to permanently keep the source for all your pages on your home PC. On 2012-01-02 06:12, rbmc wrote: > FRom Pat Asher............................... > To Firefox, add the Web Developer Add-on. It will add a toolbar with > options for editing the HTML and/or CSS of any page you are viewing. > > You will, of course, have to save your edits to your hard drive, > before uploading them to the server. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3620 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

My thanks to Pat and everyone else who responded to my plea for help - I can now do my editing and updates in Firefox :) Regards, Ann McClean in Mid-Wales, U.K. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAWTHORN, SCOTT, PALMER & DeSILVA PALMER Family History Pages: http://www.annmcclean.co.uk/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cambridgeshire Taverns & Public Houses in 1839 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cawthorn/1839Pigots/1839index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Asher To: Freepages-Help Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "View "Source" in Firefox At 12:50 PM 1/1/2012, Ann McClean wrote: >BUT I now use Firefox - and OK I get the Souce page, but not a version I >can >work on to amend my script. So how do I find the source page without >having >to switch browsers? To Firefox, add the Web Developer Add-on. It will add a toolbar with options for editing the HTML and/or CSS of any page you are viewing. You will, of course, have to save your edits to your hard drive, before uploading them to the server. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3618 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Another free text editor is Crimson Editor: http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ It applies color to your text depending on what type of file you save it as. -- Woody Pope KE5YXO http://www.DynamicDigitalArts.com

On Monday, January 02, 2012 6:50 AM (UTC+13) Ann wrote:- >I am just getting back into writing my own HTML coding after a long absence > as I need to make a lot of amendments to my family history pages. > > When I wrote my original pages, I was using Avant Browser/IE so right > click > on the page to be amended worked every time. > > BUT I now use Firefox - and OK I get the Souce page, but not a version I > can > work on to amend my script. So how do I find the source page without > having > to switch browsers? > ------------------------------ Ann, If you have opened one of your local files in Firefox and now wish to edit it, you will need to open the same file in your text editor to make changes to the mark-up. If you are using the Windows O/S, you will have Notepad available for that purpose, but a much better and simple text editor is Aranae which can be download for free from:- http://www.ornj.net/araneae/ Barry

This is one reason why it is important to permanently keep the source for all your pages on your home PC. On 2012-01-02 06:12, rbmc wrote: > FRom Pat Asher............................... > To Firefox, add the Web Developer Add-on. It will add a toolbar with > options for editing the HTML and/or CSS of any page you are viewing. > > You will, of course, have to save your edits to your hard drive, > before uploading them to the server. > ------------------- > Remember, when you 'view source' to edit a page, and save it, you will also > be saving the top& bottom Rootsweb banner codes, which will duplicate again > on the upload. Be sure to remove this code. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Little Nine Partners Historical Society Trustee, Webmaster, Life Member http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nylnphs Personal website: Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/

FRom Pat Asher............................... To Firefox, add the Web Developer Add-on. It will add a toolbar with options for editing the HTML and/or CSS of any page you are viewing. You will, of course, have to save your edits to your hard drive, before uploading them to the server. ------------------- Remember, when you 'view source' to edit a page, and save it, you will also be saving the top & bottom Rootsweb banner codes, which will duplicate again on the upload. Be sure to remove this code.