On Friday, April 13, 2012 11:06 AM (UTC+12) Rob wrote:- I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations. -------------------- Rob I'm not about to give you any definitive answer, other than to say I do have SeaMonkey 2.7 and have tried out its Composer function. Perhaps what's left of my hair is too gray, but I don't find the WYSIWYG that inspiring. My experiences of WYSIWYG editors are not good, and I have developed methods of creating with code "what I want" rather than the other way. For a full flown text editor, I would recommend PSPad, which will provide you with just about anything you want in the way of creating HTML pages. http://www.brothersoft.com/download-pspad-editor-24977.html I don't use it all the time, as I prefer the more basic text editor of Araneae for everyday work. Araneae makes use of multiple colors in its text-editor status which helps immensely when tracing an HTML error. In fact, it is almost impossible to make a syntax mistake, as an unexpected change in the displayed text color will alert you. http://www.ornj.net/araneae/ I will often use PSPad when doing extensive editing of a file, as the search and replace function works extremely well in it, whereas I have found some limitations in Araneae. There are some inbuilt extras in PSPad which I find of use from time to time, e.g. a Lorem text generator, to name but one. Barry
I do all my pages in HTML. Layout is just how I want it. Easy to add pictures. Pages are HTML so any browser reads them without any bothersome viewers. Page size [ in Kb ] is easy to control. Text on pages is easily searchable. On 04/13/2012 11:20 AM, Gard Meddaugh wrote: > Since I mostly do my genealogy pages in biography form, I use my word-processor, publish to .pdf and upload. > pros: > Familiar program > Prints pages as I want them to print > Easy to include photos > Links work > cons: > Pages can be a bit big > > I'd be interested in what others think. > > cheers, > > Gard > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:06:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: rt-sails@comcast.net > Subject: [FreeHelp] Free or low-cost web editors -- again > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1367381887.853880.1334271994371.JavaMail.root@sz0067a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I hope it's OK to re-visit this issue. After all, the situation's always changing. > > > I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. > > I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations. > > > Thanks, > -rt_/) ************* > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
What I use is shareware: no cost except to share, and its excellent: Arachnophila. http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/ You can use it on any platform. Chuck Wolfram --- On Fri, 4/13/12, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> wrote:Subject: [FreeHelp] Free or low-cost web editors -- again <1367381887.853880.1334271994371.JavaMail.root@sz0067a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I hope it's OK to re-visit this issue. After all, the situation's always changing. I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations.
Thanks to all who responded. I appreciate the comments and the help. It does sound, though, like many of us are using older software; some of the programs mentioned aren’t available any more. (I’ll still use FrontPage ’98 when the desktop gets its new motherboard.) Not sure I have the heredity correct, but it seems like Coffee Cup is the new Nvu and Sea Monkey is the new Netscape Composer. Coffee Cup has two versions, a free one without WYSIWYG and a $49 one with (seems pretty cheap). The free Sea Monkey’s WYSIWYG is the Firefox engine. In googling on the subject and reading reviews, I don’t see anyone talking about CSS or SSI support for the WYSIWYG. Is it because they’re now taken for granted? (FrontPage supports CSS , not Perl SSI – one learns to work around it and check after uploads.) On another note, viewing websites on this small laptop screen gives a renewed appreciation for sufficiently large font sizes, The feature of Chrome I use most often is the zoom to at least 125%, sometimes 200%. It seems like most sites are trying to crowd too much onto the page, making it all unreadable. -rt_/)
Since I mostly do my genealogy pages in biography form, I use my word-processor, publish to .pdf and upload. pros: Familiar program Prints pages as I want them to print Easy to include photos Links work cons: Pages can be a bit big I'd be interested in what others think. cheers, Gard Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:06:34 +0000 (UTC) From: rt-sails@comcast.net Subject: [FreeHelp] Free or low-cost web editors -- again To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1367381887.853880.1334271994371.JavaMail.root@sz0067a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I hope it's OK to re-visit this issue. After all, the situation's always changing. I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations. Thanks, -rt_/) *************
My favorite editor is Crimson Editor and its free! It has colors for the HTML code etc. Very nice editor! http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ -- Woody Pope KE5YXO
At 11:52 PM 4/12/2012, Jill Muir wrote: >Sharepoint Designer 2007 Is Now Free! Be sure to watch the video. MS Office >SharePoint Designer 2007 provides the powerful tools you need to deliver >compelling and attractive SharePoint sites and quickly build >workflow-enabled applications and reporting tools on the SharePoint >platform, all in an IT-managed environment. > >Pat recommended this at one point, so not sure why it isn't now on her list >of free web developers programs. ================= Sharepoint Designer 2007 uses what is equal to Expression Web 1 as the web editor. While many consider Expression Web as a WYSIWYG editor, Microsoft does NOT. See Are you new to Microsoft Expression Web? <http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-US;2511858>This article (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-US;2511858) outlines the prerequisites for using Expression Web effectively, along with a list of useful resources you can use to get up to speed on modern Web design. The bottom line is that you do need to have some knowledge of Web design before you'll be comfortable or effective using Microsoft Expression Web. I also feel that if you are going to use a WYSIWYG editor you need to learn at least the basics of writing html and css if you hope to do your own troubleshooting of problems you might have with your site. Pat Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html Planning a Genealogy Website EBook 2nd Edition http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=21581 Sharepoint Designer 2007 Is Now Free! Be sure to watch the video. MS Office SharePoint Designer 2007 provides the powerful tools you need to deliver compelling and attractive SharePoint sites and quickly build workflow-enabled applications and reporting tools on the SharePoint platform, all in an IT-managed environment. Pat recommended this at one point, so not sure why it isn't now on her list of free web developers programs. My best wishes, Jill See website for 3 lines of JONES, KNIGHT and DAVIES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Familytwigs Sent: 13 April 2012 00:49 To: rt-sails@comcast.net Cc: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Free or low-cost web editors -- again Here is Pat's Resources for Website Design page which lists a lot of the best ones. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/resources.htm -- Sheri
I hope it's OK to re-visit this issue. After all, the situation's always changing. I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations. Thanks, -rt_/) ----- Original Message -----
I guess I am just to lazy to learn a new program. I have about 15 websites up and running, not too fancy, but gets the job done. I am still using Netscape Composer 4.7 Netscape® Communicator 4.79 http://download.cnet.com/Netscape-Communicator-32-bit-Complete-Install/3000-2356_4-10001867.html -----Original Message----- From: Barry Carlson Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:02 PM To: rt-sails@comcast.net ; freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Free or low-cost web editors -- again On Friday, April 13, 2012 11:06 AM (UTC+12) Rob wrote:- I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations. -------------------- Rob
On 04/12/12 18:06, rt-sails@comcast.net wrote: > I hope it's OK to re-visit this issue. After all, the situation's always changing. > > > I'm looking for a free or low-cost WYSIWYG web editor to download after the motherboard on my main computer got fried and left me with a few weeks of working from my laptop. I'm definitely NOT interested in spending a few undred dollars. > > I've been looking at Coffee Cup and SeaMonkey, based on Web reviews. But, I'd like to hear from listers here as to their recommendations. > > > Thanks, > -rt_/) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Ralph, You don't list any specs so I'll mention one that I have used and still do occasionally, Blue Fish. It is very simple. I don't remember if it offers "Projects" functionality. Documentation is available, if interested. By the way, I have been looking for one too and am now trying to learn Aptana. It offers HTML functionality but it is more than an HTML editor. HTML is just one part of this huge developer platform. Plugins are available but I have not checked this out. Lorrie
Here is Pat's Resources for Website Design page which lists a lot of the best ones. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/resources.htm -- Sheri FamilyTwigs <http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familytwigs/> TwigTalk <http://familytwigs.blogspot.com/> Indiana Trails To The Past <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eintttp/> SA Jackson County <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Einjacktp/>Trails To The Past
At 08:10 AM 4/10/2012, Rawls Family wrote: >This may also help! >http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/Resources/CreatingWeb.htm ==================== I would never recommend that anyone use any version of MS Word to design their webpages. The program just adds too much bloated code and can cause display issues. See http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wpcode.htm for more on this topic. There are free web editors available. Some of them are listed here: http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/resources.htm scroll down to web authoring software to the list of free editors. Pat Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html Planning a Genealogy Website EBook 2nd Edition http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html
This may also help! http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/Resources/CreatingWeb.htm > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: Vivian Chauvin <vivbob2003@yahoo.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] STARTING A WEB PAGE ??? > To: Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1333989895.19420.YahooMailClassic@web111403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > HOW DO YOU START? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:47:30 -0400 > From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] STARTING A WEB PAGE ??? > To: Vivian Chauvin <vivbob2003@yahoo.com>, > Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <201204091647.q39GlX3O005010@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 12:44 PM 4/9/2012, Vivian Chauvin wrote: > >HOW DO YOU START? > > > Perhaps this will help you get started > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/getting-started-with-freepages.html > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html > > Pat >
At 12:44 PM 4/9/2012, Vivian Chauvin wrote: >HOW DO YOU START? Perhaps this will help you get started http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/getting-started-with-freepages.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html Pat
Well, there's several ways to get started. One is to go to http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/fileman/file_manager.cgi Log in [ remember that case counts in your password ] On the next page click on the "Enter File Manager" button. From there you can create new pages or edit pages already uploaded to your site. The second is to use some HTML editor/Web Page creator software on your computer to create pages and then upload with FTP software or File Manager to your site. See the page at http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/users.html The second method is my preference. I keep my site "backed up" on my computer and work on my pages. Another alternative for page creation is your genealogy software. Most modern genealogy programs now have a way to create a website for you from your database. That will generally give you a bare bones set of pages that you will want to add more information to. On 04/09/2012 11:44 AM, Vivian Chauvin wrote: > HOW DO YOU START? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
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Free 1911 census transcripts lots of data http://sites.google.com/site/freecensus Sent from my iPod On 22 Mar 2012, at 07:00, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** > <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Need Help! (Walter V. Munza) > 2. Re: Need Help! (lrlaskey) > 3. Re: Need Help! (Pat Asher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:54:52 -0400 > From: "Walter V. Munza" <wvmunza@gmail.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Need Help! > To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAONzqBx8MY_Ft8bz8EjJAw0DsajtHR3g1yKFJVyr0foePXqu1g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hi, > > I have my family tree GETCOM file uploaded to RootsWeb?s WorldConnect > Project web site. I also have my Freepages at RootsWeb, but I don?t have a > webpage developed there yet. However, I do have a webpage with Google > (which I find easier to use). My question to you is, can I use my Freepages > to upload my picture files, pedigree charts, document?s, etc. and then link > them to my tree at RootsWeb? Can I also link my RootsWeb page to my Google > webpage and how do I do this? > > > Thanks, > -- > Walt Munza > Duluth, GA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:02:41 -0500 > From: lrlaskey <lrlaskey@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Need Help! > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4F69DF81.80206@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Walter, > > I can help you with the Google questions. To link to any outside site or > page from a Google Sites' website involves creating a link. You may add > one in a navigation bar, a sidebar menu or in a page. I work with Google > Sites often, if I can be of help, just ask. > > Lorrie > > > On 03/21/12 08:54, Walter V. Munza wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have my family tree GETCOM file uploaded to RootsWeb?s WorldConnect >> Project web site. I also have my Freepages at RootsWeb, but I don?t have a >> webpage developed there yet. However, I do have a webpage with Google >> (which I find easier to use). My question to you is, can I use my Freepages >> to upload my picture files, pedigree charts, document?s, etc. and then link >> them to my tree at RootsWeb? Can I also link my RootsWeb page to my Google >> webpage and how do I do this? >> >> >> Thanks, > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:38:44 -0400 > From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Need Help! > To: Freepages-Help <Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <851145.63917.qm@smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 09:54 AM 3/21/2012, you wrote: >> I have my family tree GETCOM file uploaded to RootsWeb's WorldConnect >> Project web site. I also have my Freepages at RootsWeb, but I don't have a >> webpage developed there yet. However, I do have a webpage with Google >> (which I find easier to use). My question to you is, can I use my Freepages >> to upload my picture files, pedigree charts, document's, etc. and then link >> them to my tree at RootsWeb? Can I also link my RootsWeb page to my Google >> webpage and how do I do this? > > > > 1) You can certainly link images you have uploaded to another site > (Google, Freepages, etc.) and display them with your WorldConnect > GEDCOM. Basic instructions are here: > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wcPhotos.htm > > 2) You may NOT use your Freepages space for storage, (e.g. only media > or large files), or as a redirect to another site such as your Google > site. Your Freepages site must contain publicly accessible > genealogy/history related content i.e. it must contain web pages > (html). Some examples on how to integrate your Freepages site with > others you might have, including WorldConnect, are here: > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/genesite.htm > > > Pat Asher > > Pat Asher > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 25 > *********************************************
At 09:54 AM 3/21/2012, you wrote: >I have my family tree GETCOM file uploaded to RootsWeb's WorldConnect >Project web site. I also have my Freepages at RootsWeb, but I don't have a >webpage developed there yet. However, I do have a webpage with Google >(which I find easier to use). My question to you is, can I use my Freepages >to upload my picture files, pedigree charts, document's, etc. and then link >them to my tree at RootsWeb? Can I also link my RootsWeb page to my Google >webpage and how do I do this? 1) You can certainly link images you have uploaded to another site (Google, Freepages, etc.) and display them with your WorldConnect GEDCOM. Basic instructions are here: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wcPhotos.htm 2) You may NOT use your Freepages space for storage, (e.g. only media or large files), or as a redirect to another site such as your Google site. Your Freepages site must contain publicly accessible genealogy/history related content i.e. it must contain web pages (html). Some examples on how to integrate your Freepages site with others you might have, including WorldConnect, are here: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/genesite.htm Pat Asher Pat Asher
Hi, I have my family tree GETCOM file uploaded to RootsWeb’s WorldConnect Project web site. I also have my Freepages at RootsWeb, but I don’t have a webpage developed there yet. However, I do have a webpage with Google (which I find easier to use). My question to you is, can I use my Freepages to upload my picture files, pedigree charts, document’s, etc. and then link them to my tree at RootsWeb? Can I also link my RootsWeb page to my Google webpage and how do I do this? Thanks, -- Walt Munza Duluth, GA