Looks good on the simulators I use to test. Even responds as it should with the Firefox web developer toolbar resizing for mobile display. pat

I'm unsure how to word my questions...so I'll lump it together. What do I need to do if I reorganized my site? How do I get it recrawled? How do I notify webs that linked to me? How do I ask for my content to be removed from sites that have copied my content? Judy

Hi Barry, I decided to upload even though I'm not yet done adding the mobile code (few hundred pages to go). Is the h2 id supposed to show on a PC or not ? <///h2 id="mobile">This webpage is not designed for viewing in a Mobile device</h2> If so, it doesn't show. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ Then I tried a friend's android and the phones at http://mobiletest.me/ These two only show the h2 id but no web page. Apple 5 Samsung galaxy Y So 4 out of of 6 phones do show the pages. Is it all working as it should? (Did I do it right?) I copied the mobile (3) codes in as blocks so they should all be the same on all pages. Judy

LOL please send that milk chocolate by express mail. Judy

If you are referring to File manager, just google Rootsweb File Manager - pick the one for Rootsweb File Manager (there is one for "freepages" too, you must pick the right one) Enter your ID and password on the screen. And you'll be "inside" your website. Judy

Tue, 14 Jul 2015 22:13:17 +1200, Barry Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: The following image will show you what I'm talking about. http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/images/mercator-example.jpg Have a look at the enclosed image at bottom right and think about what you are seeing - text wise! I'll reveal the rest in due course. Barry

The following image will show you what I'm talking about. Have a look at the enclosed image at bottom right and think about what you are seeing - text wise! I'll reveal the rest in due course. Barry

The name list is in a spreadsheet. It’s such a piece of cake to add the necessary table code to spreadsheets so that when I’m finished it’s simply a case of copy/paste to have my webpage table done. Saves such a ton of coding <g> For the sources they range from a couple of lines to large paragraphs depending on the information and that doesn’t lend itself to a spreadsheet. I have a webpage set up for those and I add the html code as I add the source including the anchor names. Hopefully it’s only going to take a search/replace to change the <a name> to <id name>. I’ve used Stackoverflow’s site along with W3C School and CSS Tricks’ sites. They all have helpful stuff. Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com From: TilburyCM Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:25 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: Web pages Linda, are you entering the info into a spreadsheet? I’ve compiled a list of all the Davenports mentioned in any kind of source record I've been able to find. There are actually two lists: one in date order and one in first name orderFor the hover, Barry is sure to have some wizzy solutions!!! And if you can follow the code and demos; the Stackoverflow website is great for learning. Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Haas Davenport <[email protected]> To: TilburyCM <[email protected]>; freepages-help <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:51 Subject: Re: Web pages Your pages look great. What I am working on is a list of the Davenports in the counties surrounding Albemarle Sound in NC. My husband’s ancestor was one of the very early settlers to the area. Like so many areas there are tons of men with the same first name. To try to sort out the family lines of all the Davenports I’ve compiled a list of all the Davenports mentioned in any kind of source record I've been able to find. There are actually two lists: one in date order and one in first name order - i.e.: 1693-08-07 07 Aug 1693 Richard Witness for son-in-law John Foster Clicking on Richard’s name opens the source information for that particular listing - i.e.: 07 Aug 1693: Perquimans Precinct: Articles of agreement; between John Foster, of Perq Pre'ct, planter & Stephen Paine of afsd—Joint Partners from henceforth, during their natual lives” each binds himself unto the other, in the sum of £50 Sterling. Test’ Peter Gray, RICHARD DAVENPORT. Ack in Court Aug 7, 1693. [Winslow: p. 43, Deed Bk A: No. 70; <A HREF="john-foster-partnership.pdf” target=”_blank”]<br> (John Foster is Richard & Johanna’s son-in-law – married to daughter Elizabeth) Clicking on the source (Winslow) will take you to that source. I'm hoping to master hover so the source is also displayed for a quick look. I have a ton of these entries and I’m still adding to them. Getting them online is going to prove a challenge I’m sure <g> However, I need to first master CSS (maybe a greater challenge) and get my sites cleaned up. Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com From: TilburyCM Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 7:34 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Web pages Linda, an afterthought - don't know what kind of site you're working on. No doubt others have better presentation than mine, but two here which I styled in consequence of content. The first is a mixture of people and events, and in colour; the second is about places, is in three sections with an icon for each, plain page setting, and a similar index page for each section, plus entry page in the same style (repeated background image), all black and grey on white.. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/chalfont_thomas_t_enter.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/londonts/london_pages_index.html Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. No virus found in this message. 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Really nice page Ralph, quick to load, easy to read and easy to scroll through. It seems, to me, that the majority of websites today have so many ads that the page stalls, jumps and otherwise is a real pain to try to use. Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Taylor via Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] PAGES ? Pat A asked "In addition to the 50kb rule (based on download speeds), we used to be told the best pages should require no more than 5 scroll downs. How does this convert to the mobile world? Are 50 too many -- or do mobile users not mind flicking the screen repeatedly? Or do they not even search for and read these kind of pages? Thoughts?" For a mobile user, one scroll-down might be too many. I guess it depends on site content, how badly the viewer wants it and competition for attention. IMHO, subject matter rules! If the content needs a longer page, it should have it. 'Course, I'm biased toward the user who will invest effort for the content. All my sites are about complicated niche subjects: genealogy, genetic genealogy, sailing tactics & strategy. If the materials were readily available elsewhere, there'd be no reason for the sites. Plus, I'm not trying to get money; the viewers' only payment for what's offered is their time. These pages require text, tables, diagrams, pictures and graphs. They tend to get fairly big. An example is http://taylorfamilygenes.info/haplogroups.shtml, explaining human Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups and how they relate to each other. I doubt such a page can be easily adapted for iphone or Android viewing. It seems to me that mobile apps deal mostly in relatively simple content, although the technology behind the display can be very sophisticated. In short, there are pages for "click and go" use and others for "stick around a while and learn something". Different purposes, different standards. -rt_/) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10223 - Release Date: 07/13/15

Linda, are you entering the info into a spreadsheet? I’ve compiled a list of all the Davenports mentioned in any kind of source record I've been able to find. There are actually two lists: one in date order and one in first name order For the hover, Barry is sure to have some wizzy solutions!!! And if you can follow the code and demos; the Stackoverflow website is great for learning. Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Haas Davenport <[email protected]> To: TilburyCM <[email protected]>; freepages-help <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:51 Subject: Re: Web pages Your pages look great. What I am working on is a list of the Davenports in the counties surrounding Albemarle Sound in NC. My husband’s ancestor was one of the very early settlers to the area. Like so many areas there are tons of men with the same first name. To try to sort out the family lines of all the Davenports I’ve compiled a list of all the Davenports mentioned in any kind of source record I've been able to find. There are actually two lists: one in date order and one in first name order - i.e.: 1693-08-07 07 Aug 1693 Richard Witness for son-in-law John Foster Clicking on Richard’s name opens the source information for that particular listing - i.e.: 07 Aug 1693: Perquimans Precinct: Articles of agreement; between John Foster, of Perq Pre'ct, planter & Stephen Paine of afsd—Joint Partners from henceforth, during their natual lives” each binds himself unto the other, in the sum of £50 Sterling. Test’ Peter Gray, RICHARD DAVENPORT. Ack in Court Aug 7, 1693. [Winslow: p. 43, Deed Bk A: No. 70; <A HREF="john-foster-partnership.pdf” target=”_blank”]<br> (John Foster is Richard & Johanna’s son-in-law – married to daughter Elizabeth) Clicking on the source (Winslow) will take you to that source. I'm hoping to master hover so the source is also displayed for a quick look. I have a ton of these entries and I’m still adding to them. Getting them online is going to prove a challenge I’m sure <g> However, I need to first master CSS (maybe a greater challenge) and get my sites cleaned up. Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com From: TilburyCM Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 7:34 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Web pages Linda, an afterthought - don't know what kind of site you're working on. No doubt others have better presentation than mine, but two here which I styled in consequence of content. The first is a mixture of people and events, and in colour; the second is about places, is in three sections with an icon for each, plain page setting, and a similar index page for each section, plus entry page in the same style (repeated background image), all black and grey on white.. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/chalfont_thomas_t_enter.html http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/londonts/london_pages_index.html Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10210 - Release Date: 07/11/15

I have been wondering the same thing. It takes too long to delete single files and folders. Heidi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian via Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 4:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp] File Manager - delete Is there an easy way to delete all the contents of a website using Freepages File Manager? I know I can delete single files and folders. Is there a way to highlight all the radio buttons at once? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there an easy way to delete all the contents of a website using Freepages File Manager? I know I can delete single files and folders. Is there a way to highlight all the radio buttons at once? Judy

Pat A asked "In addition to the 50kb rule (based on download speeds), we used to be told the best pages should require no more than 5 scroll downs. How does this convert to the mobile world? Are 50 too many -- or do mobile users not mind flicking the screen repeatedly? Or do they not even search for and read these kind of pages? Thoughts?" For a mobile user, one scroll-down might be too many. I guess it depends on site content, how badly the viewer wants it and competition for attention. IMHO, subject matter rules! If the content needs a longer page, it should have it. 'Course, I'm biased toward the user who will invest effort for the content. All my sites are about complicated niche subjects: genealogy, genetic genealogy, sailing tactics & strategy. If the materials were readily available elsewhere, there'd be no reason for the sites. Plus, I'm not trying to get money; the viewers' only payment for what's offered is their time. These pages require text, tables, diagrams, pictures and graphs. They tend to get fairly big. An example is http://taylorfamilygenes.info/haplogroups.shtml, explaining human Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups and how they relate to each other. I doubt such a page can be easily adapted for iphone or Android viewing. It seems to me that mobile apps deal mostly in relatively simple content, although the technology behind the display can be very sophisticated. In short, there are pages for "click and go" use and others for "stick around a while and learn something". Different purposes, different standards. -rt_/)

Going on to file manager and clicking on WYSIWYG I have managed , with loud cheers, to create a page called index.htm .....and I know where it is , by the date alongside it . Today I am going to try Barry`s helpful email instructions. " to continue it , just save it with another name eg the existing name mypage.html as mypage-1.html . The most terrifying instruction is " remove the existing content " . add the remainder of what you have . Once done , you can go back to the first page and add a link at the bottom which will allow your viewers to get to it . I see the page down key but have never used it . nor now do I know when to use it . but I am going to try reading through Bennett2 and then hit the page down key .......somehow I doubt there will be loud cheers !!! -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Taylor via Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 8:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] PAGES ? Let's take some other perspectives on "How long should a Web page be?" BTW, it's not a dumb question, but an important one. The main point is that the medium is not print-on-paper, but text and images on a computer screen. So you're not restricted to standard paper sizes. You are, though, somewhat constrained by viewers' screens. You want to minimize scrolling, especially avoiding horizontal scrolling. Then, there's download time to consider. How long does it take the page (and all its "stuff") to load so viewers can see it? If they have to wait too long, they might click away before the page comes up. (A recent newspaper article indicated that this behavior was on the increase and attributed it to bad site designs. Yes, it happens in the commercial world.) So we think in computer and network terms, bits and bytes going through pipes. Before broadband was so common and download speeds were about 2.4 Kbs (Kilobits per second), we used to have consensus that a page (with images, etc.) shouldn't be more than ~50 KB (kilobytes). That's still a heck of a lot of text. Nowadays, download speeds average 6-12 MBs (MegaBytes per second), 2,500-5,000 times faster. I think that means pages can be bigger. We're no longer limited to 50 KB, which would load much faster than a blink. You can also think in qualitative terms: * A sentence should consist of a complete thought. * A paragraph should consist of related sentences and thoughts. * A page should consist of related paragraphs to tell a complete story. The story may be short and simple or it may be long and complex. The page telling it should be as long as it needs to be and no longer. At the end of the page, the reader should be left feeling "I understand" without feeling bored. In the final analysis, the size of a page is up to its author. -rt_/) PS -- Two foolscap pages sounds (depending on how big or small you write) like about 200 words, a small page. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Linda, In the head section of your page the is an embedded style:- <style> p{margin:4px 0;} </style> Try changing the 4px to 16px. When happy with the result, you can remove the style from the page and place it in your stylesheet. Barry ---------------- On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:19:05 +1200, Linda Haas Davenport via <[email protected]> wrote: > I don’t have any P classes set to any specific height anywhere else. > How do I go about fixing the space between the paragraphs so I get the > normal extra blank line?

My menu/index is on the left and it gets loaded before <h1>. In the past I would have used the anchor tags to skip over the menu to get to the <h1> section with my <a name> being on the line above the <h1> and my <a herf> being at the top of my left menu. It looks to me as if HTLM5 is simply changing <a name> to <id=something> so that’s what I did. Now when I run the page through an accessibility validator it tells me I have an <a herf> without an <id>. Everything I’ve been able to find so far shows the id inside the h1 tag <h1 id=”begin”>. Does the id have to be inside the h1 tag? Thanks Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com

For a long time I just did inline styles. That gave me a chance to play with style tags and see what happened in a very localized way. If that one line didn't work in the browser I knew that it was that tag. It was quite a while before I tried an external style sheet. On 07/13/2015 07:42 AM, Linda Haas Davenport wrote: > The latest version of NoteTab Pro will generate both CSS2 & CSS3 code, > but you know if you haven't a clue as to what is needed where and what > it's going to do it's not a lot of help <g> > > Linda > > Linda Haas Davenport > my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com > My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ > my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com > -----Original Message----- From: Billie Walsh via > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 7:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Where does #content go in an html page? > > My first website was generated by GED2HTML from a gedcom generated by > Brothers Keeper. [ page is still up, much modified over the years ] > Somewhere I had found an HTML "dictionary. I think there were only > something like twenty-five or thirty tags back then. All pretty simple. > I printed off the "dictionary" and put it in a binder that I could refer > to it. I used Notepad as an editor at first. By looking at the HTML > generated and referring to the dictionary I learned how web pages worked > and was able to modify those pages to suit myself. It wasn't to long > before I found my first HTML editor, HTMLed. That was great because it > had the tags on "buttons" so I could click and insert tags without > typing. I still had to manually ad any modifiers I wanted [ height, > width, etc. ] The dictionary listed what modifiers were available for > each tag. > > I'm not sure there was a WYSIWYG editor in those early days. I never had > one. It was kind of learn HTML or else. Styles have been harder for me > because I never found a simple "dictionary" like I had for HTML. I did > find a program for Linux, sorry it doesn't work in Windows - I tried, > called CSSed. It's a very simple CSS editor with click and add tags. It > will offer modifiers if any are available [ settings for padding for > instance ]. Problem is it's a bit behind the latest and greatest style > elements. I don't think it will be updated in the future. Still it did > help me learn some of the syntax. > > OK, that's my long and sad story. I believe that as i have grown older > it has helped me to keep learning new things. It's funny that since I > have been "retired" I seldom know what day it is. Just last evening we > were driving past a local Baptist church and I wondered, out loud, what > was going on on a Friday. Tracie quickly let me know it was Sunday, and > won't let me forget my faux pas. I told her it was senility and I was > sticking to that story. Don't know what day of the week it is but I can > write a web page from scratch. *<]:oD > > > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

The latest version of NoteTab Pro will generate both CSS2 & CSS3 code, but you know if you haven't a clue as to what is needed where and what it's going to do it's not a lot of help <g> Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com -----Original Message----- From: Billie Walsh via Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Where does #content go in an html page? My first website was generated by GED2HTML from a gedcom generated by Brothers Keeper. [ page is still up, much modified over the years ] Somewhere I had found an HTML "dictionary. I think there were only something like twenty-five or thirty tags back then. All pretty simple. I printed off the "dictionary" and put it in a binder that I could refer to it. I used Notepad as an editor at first. By looking at the HTML generated and referring to the dictionary I learned how web pages worked and was able to modify those pages to suit myself. It wasn't to long before I found my first HTML editor, HTMLed. That was great because it had the tags on "buttons" so I could click and insert tags without typing. I still had to manually ad any modifiers I wanted [ height, width, etc. ] The dictionary listed what modifiers were available for each tag. I'm not sure there was a WYSIWYG editor in those early days. I never had one. It was kind of learn HTML or else. Styles have been harder for me because I never found a simple "dictionary" like I had for HTML. I did find a program for Linux, sorry it doesn't work in Windows - I tried, called CSSed. It's a very simple CSS editor with click and add tags. It will offer modifiers if any are available [ settings for padding for instance ]. Problem is it's a bit behind the latest and greatest style elements. I don't think it will be updated in the future. Still it did help me learn some of the syntax. OK, that's my long and sad story. I believe that as i have grown older it has helped me to keep learning new things. It's funny that since I have been "retired" I seldom know what day it is. Just last evening we were driving past a local Baptist church and I wondered, out loud, what was going on on a Friday. Tracie quickly let me know it was Sunday, and won't let me forget my faux pas. I told her it was senility and I was sticking to that story. Don't know what day of the week it is but I can write a web page from scratch. *<]:oD

My first website was generated by GED2HTML from a gedcom generated by Brothers Keeper. [ page is still up, much modified over the years ] Somewhere I had found an HTML "dictionary. I think there were only something like twenty-five or thirty tags back then. All pretty simple. I printed off the "dictionary" and put it in a binder that I could refer to it. I used Notepad as an editor at first. By looking at the HTML generated and referring to the dictionary I learned how web pages worked and was able to modify those pages to suit myself. It wasn't to long before I found my first HTML editor, HTMLed. That was great because it had the tags on "buttons" so I could click and insert tags without typing. I still had to manually ad any modifiers I wanted [ height, width, etc. ] The dictionary listed what modifiers were available for each tag. I'm not sure there was a WYSIWYG editor in those early days. I never had one. It was kind of learn HTML or else. Styles have been harder for me because I never found a simple "dictionary" like I had for HTML. I did find a program for Linux, sorry it doesn't work in Windows - I tried, called CSSed. It's a very simple CSS editor with click and add tags. It will offer modifiers if any are available [ settings for padding for instance ]. Problem is it's a bit behind the latest and greatest style elements. I don't think it will be updated in the future. Still it did help me learn some of the syntax. OK, that's my long and sad story. I believe that as i have grown older it has helped me to keep learning new things. It's funny that since I have been "retired" I seldom know what day it is. Just last evening we were driving past a local Baptist church and I wondered, out loud, what was going on on a Friday. Tracie quickly let me know it was Sunday, and won't let me forget my faux pas. I told her it was senility and I was sticking to that story. Don't know what day of the week it is but I can write a web page from scratch. *<]:oD On 07/13/2015 04:32 AM, Linda Haas Davenport wrote: > I used Word 97 to build my first web pages. It code was fairly clean > back then. Then I learned to tweak it and then I started writing code > by hand because it was faster than messing with tweaking/cleaning up > Word. CSS is harder to me. Maybe because I didn't have a page > generated for me to use as an example. The W3schools have great > examples, but they are just a example of how a snippet works. I also > spent time on the CSS tricks site because they showed more. I looked > at a lot of sites, but didn't find one that was close to what I want > to do. That's why I've spent so much time on my little newspaper > master page. Once I get the fundamentals to work I can add things as I > need them and when the page doesn't work I know I have only that one > thing to figure out. Also what I want in my CSS is really only the > stuff, like my SSI includes, that I (or whoever takes over my > websites) can easily change to change the look of the site without > having to change every blasted page. For the rest I'll use html. > > Thanks for your help Billie it's appreciated. > > Linda > > Linda Haas Davenport > my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com > My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ > my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com > > -----Original Message----- From: Billie Walsh via > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 4:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Where does #content go in an html page? > > Sometimes I'll just look till I find something that looks like it might > be able to do what I want. Then I'll copy their example onto a page and > play with it. Sometimes it works out as I want and sometimes it doesn't. > Just reading their stuff doesn't really help me. It's when I have it and > am digging in and making changes to see what changes take place that I > really learn. That's how I first learned HTML and am now learning styles. > > > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I’m much the same Judy. I used Word97 to build my first webpage, then I learned to tweak it and then it became quicker and easier to write code by hand, but it was learning to tweak the pages that taught me html. I think learning CSS is much harder for me because I’m trying to figure out the cause and effect of CSS on my html and vice versa. Barry setting up a stylesheet and fixing my test page for me was really helpful. After that it was trial and error with both CSS and html until I got what I wanted. Once I have the basics working then I can add additional CSS coding as I need it and if it doesn’t work I know I have that one thing to learn how to fix. The W3school is really helpful. It was from what I learned there that I built my first stylesheet. When I was going from lesson to lesson I was always changing their examples to see how things worked. But, their example are dealing with a single element (of one kind or another). Then when I started building my stylesheet and test page I’d go back to their examples to see what html or CSS needed to be changed on my pages to do what I wanted to do. Linda Linda Haas Davenport my Home Page: http://www.lhaasdav.com My Marion Co AR page: http://www.argenweb.net/marion/ my Tulsa OK Page: http://www.tulsaokhistory.com From: JFlorian Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 6:45 PM To: Linda Haas Davenport ; mailto:[email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Where does #content go in an html page? Linda, I'm a "show me - then do it" learner. I can read and understand the words on most subjects. But for doings, especially website making, the info doesn't translate to doing. Only when Barry clearly told me "this goes here" and gave examples, then I finally started getting it. Then, the more I did what he showed, I started noticing what was wrong when I messed up and how to fix it. The "show me--I'll do it" is a valid learning style. But these online tutorials are too narrow and dry for me. Once Barry showed me, THEN the W3 school "try it" made sense, more than it ever did before. I've learned more of Ext CSS in 8 months than I learned in the first 6 years. Of course, the first 6 yrs I learned most of HTML and got my feet wet with page styles etc. But somehow learning CSS also helped me understand much more about plain html. Judy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10215 - Release Date: 07/12/15