You might want to try eBay to find FrontPage 2003. That is the last one Microsoft offered. It is no longer supported. Personally I think that it would be beneficial to learn some HTML first before using CSS. I took classes on both and found that it helps to learn HTML first. I still use it and am quite happy with my results. There are quite a few free backgrounds available. If you use them you will have to give credit to the author. I would be willing to help you with some of it. =============== I would not spend the money to buy FrontPage 2003 (or any version for that matter) when Expression Web is offered as a free download. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36179 Even though the name of the file indicates it is a trial, it is NOT. It is the full version with no activation required. pat

Suggestions for free web editors http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/resources.htm There may be others available that folks on this list have used. I started with FrontPage many moons ago and have moved on to Expression Web and have used all versions. Now I use the free version which is the final release. It is on par with Dreamweaver but much less of a learning curve and you can't beat the price. I do work mostly in Code View. pat

You might want to try eBay to find FrontPage 2003. That is the last one Microsoft offered. It is no longer supported. Personally I think that it would be beneficial to learn some HTML first before using CSS. I took classes on both and found that it helps to learn HTML first. I still use it and am quite happy with my results. There are quite a few free backgrounds available. If you use them you will have to give credit to the author. I would be willing to help you with some of it. Kind regards, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: [email protected] URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian via Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:46 PM To: GE Burton ; [email protected] ; Elizabeth Howard Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] New Dear Gracie and Elizabeth, Remembering back to making my first webpage, I started off "by scratch". I followed tutorials to make one webpage. The barebones only has tags for head, html, and body...sounded fairly easy! Each is a section. But just the barebones makes a very plain 1990s webpage. Today, there are more tags and info that go in each section. From omissions of other 'tags' and my errors when using them, folks here on the list helped me learn what went where. Probably the best thing I did was mapping my website on paper. I outlined what folders I wanted and content I wanted to use (example: Deeds, Wills). It gave me ideas, helped me picture what it might look like. I spent a lot of time visiting free web design websites and collecting images for colors and 'do dads' like images for Home, Guestbook, etc. I learned what I liked, and about color pickers online. Eventually, though, it became too much (for me) to learn all by 'scratch'. I learn better by examples and being shown. Pat G. posted: I do here http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/css-layouts/index.htm There are a number of template categories under that tab. My best suggestion is to take a look through Pat's designs. You'll learn from tutorials. But it will be much, much easier to start with a template AND to jump in feet first with Pat's CSS. (Trust me-- much easier!) Just look at layout first---how it looks, like 2 columns, 3 columns. Find a layout you really like. Don't worry for now about colors. Download the template and info. Save the URL. While looking at it online, write down in an email which layout you like, and items on it you don't prefer. For examples: How do I change Pat's colors to earth-tones? Or, how do I have triple borders around a webpage? Or, I like this design of Pat's but I want less (or more) space on the border. Those preferences can be changed later. For now, just find a layout. You'll need to pick a Web Editor. One that is WYSIWYG is easiest. (I have an old Frontpage2000 program but I don't know other Editors.) Rootsweb has a WYSIWYG but I've never used it. Once you get a Web Editor, you'll need to set up your website. * Make a folder called My Webs. ** Open My Webs (My Webs can have first letter capitals) and inside it, make a folder name that matches the name that Rootsweb uses, for example, genealogy. It must be lowercase. That will be your website on your computer. ***** You'll put Pat's template etc. into that folder. Also, inside the "genealogy" folder, make a folder called "images". Here are some things to remember. 1. Use lowercase letters for folder names and filenames 2. Use hyphens or underscores between words, not spaces. Don't use any symbols like apostrophes. Web pages cannot have symbols like what Windows uses. *** Try to use a consistent pattern for filenames, such as: white_1910.html white_martha-j_1950.html black_1911.html 3. Keep folder names short, like one word; But filenames can be longer 4. It is easier to make folders as you need them. 5. The very first page must be called either "index.htm" or "index.html" You can choose whether to use htm or html file extension, but you must then use always the same file extension on that website. (I used htm on one website, but now wish I used html on it. ) This is enough for now. Look at Pat's for a template you like. Look around the Web for images you like (jpg, gif). Google free+clipart or free+jpgs Right Click and Save As any pictures you might use on your website... for now, save them in one place. (As you need them, you can move the image into your website on your computer.) When you have decided on a program to use, and picked a template, write back and the list will help you get started. Can anyone help them with WYSIWYG editors? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Gracie and Elizabeth, Remembering back to making my first webpage, I started off "by scratch". I followed tutorials to make one webpage. The barebones only has tags for head, html, and body...sounded fairly easy! Each is a section. But just the barebones makes a very plain 1990s webpage. Today, there are more tags and info that go in each section. From omissions of other 'tags' and my errors when using them, folks here on the list helped me learn what went where. Probably the best thing I did was mapping my website on paper. I outlined what folders I wanted and content I wanted to use (example: Deeds, Wills). It gave me ideas, helped me picture what it might look like. I spent a lot of time visiting free web design websites and collecting images for colors and 'do dads' like images for Home, Guestbook, etc. I learned what I liked, and about color pickers online. Eventually, though, it became too much (for me) to learn all by 'scratch'. I learn better by examples and being shown. Pat G. posted: I do here http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/css-layouts/index.htm There are a number of template categories under that tab. My best suggestion is to take a look through Pat's designs. You'll learn from tutorials. But it will be much, much easier to start with a template AND to jump in feet first with Pat's CSS. (Trust me-- much easier!) Just look at layout first---how it looks, like 2 columns, 3 columns. Find a layout you really like. Don't worry for now about colors. Download the template and info. Save the URL. While looking at it online, write down in an email which layout you like, and items on it you don't prefer. For examples: How do I change Pat's colors to earth-tones? Or, how do I have triple borders around a webpage? Or, I like this design of Pat's but I want less (or more) space on the border. Those preferences can be changed later. For now, just find a layout. You'll need to pick a Web Editor. One that is WYSIWYG is easiest. (I have an old Frontpage2000 program but I don't know other Editors.) Rootsweb has a WYSIWYG but I've never used it. Once you get a Web Editor, you'll need to set up your website. * Make a folder called My Webs. ** Open My Webs (My Webs can have first letter capitals) and inside it, make a folder name that matches the name that Rootsweb uses, for example, genealogy. It must be lowercase. That will be your website on your computer. ***** You'll put Pat's template etc. into that folder. Also, inside the "genealogy" folder, make a folder called "images". Here are some things to remember. 1. Use lowercase letters for folder names and filenames 2. Use hyphens or underscores between words, not spaces. Don't use any symbols like apostrophes. Web pages cannot have symbols like what Windows uses. *** Try to use a consistent pattern for filenames, such as: white_1910.html white_martha-j_1950.html black_1911.html 3. Keep folder names short, like one word; But filenames can be longer 4. It is easier to make folders as you need them. 5. The very first page must be called either "index.htm" or "index.html" You can choose whether to use htm or html file extension, but you must then use always the same file extension on that website. (I used htm on one website, but now wish I used html on it. ) This is enough for now. Look at Pat's for a template you like. Look around the Web for images you like (jpg, gif). Google free+clipart or free+jpgs Right Click and Save As any pictures you might use on your website... for now, save them in one place. (As you need them, you can move the image into your website on your computer.) When you have decided on a program to use, and picked a template, write back and the list will help you get started. Can anyone help them with WYSIWYG editors? Judy

Hello, I am new to this mailing list. I am trying again to build a web page on my free roots web space. I would like to know which is the easiest free program to use and any other information I should need to know to get me started on this project. Thank you Gracie.

I do here http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/css-layouts/index.htm There are a number of template categories under that tab. While Expression Web is good, it is NOT a WYSIWYG program. It expects that you know HTML and CSS. Pat =================== Doesn't someone have a bunch of templates that would help get the site off the ground? On 07/21/2015 02:53 AM, JFlorian via wrote: > Hi Gracie, > > Do you have any web Editor program in mind? I hear Expressions Web is > good. > > Freepages also has a WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) Editor. > > Do you know how to write a basic page, or are you starting from scratch? > Either way or in between, people here will help.

Doesn't someone have a bunch of templates that would help get the site off the ground? On 07/21/2015 02:53 AM, JFlorian via wrote: > Hi Gracie, > > Do you have any web Editor program in mind? I hear Expressions Web is > good. > > Freepages also has a WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) Editor. > > Do you know how to write a basic page, or are you starting from scratch? > Either way or in between, people here will help. > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Hi Gracie, Do you have any web Editor program in mind? I hear Expressions Web is good. Freepages also has a WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) Editor. Do you know how to write a basic page, or are you starting from scratch? Either way or in between, people here will help. Judy

HTML code is rather forgiving. Forget to close a tag, it might not be bold or italics, but it won't kill your page code. Using External CSS makes a page simpler. But Ext CSS means its less forgiving for code. Imagine you have a regular page layout and a table, all set with Ext. CSS. But you have an HTML font code just because you haven't liked the solutions in CSS. So you go to validate your page and you see a ton of lines that all say:: " document type does not allow element "P" here; missing one of "APPLET", "OBJECT", "MAP", "IFRAME", "BUTTON" start-tag" Huh? The second to the LAST line in Validator says: "end tag for "FONT" omitted, but its declaration does not permit this" And though it doesn't say it outright, the last line says something like: 'Look at line 699, you dummy; the font tag is open right there but you didn't close it.' (Well, why didn't you tell me that first instead of saying applet, object, etc?) You could spend many days to find out what it means when Validator spits out garbage that seemingly only a machine can understand! But if you use Validator and make friends with it, you'll notice it has a quirk. (Of course, there's a reason for this: It reads a page downward, in order, but an error at line 699 can affect code above and below it. But we'll just call it a quirk as the explanation.) Fixing my missing /font tag cleared up all the other garbage that validator listed. Moral: In the validator, FIRST fix anything SIMPLE. That means, first look at the LAST one or two items that Validator lists as problems. Once fixed, re-validate. Everything else should clear up with fixing that one tag (assuming your CSS and the rest of the html is good). This can also apply to missing tr, td, div, etc. Judy

Very many thanks to all who offered assistance. Pat very kindly solved the problem for me so everything is working just fine now. Thank you all very much indeed. Jean McCarthy nee Moore On 20 July 2015 at 20:09, Ralph Taylor via <[email protected]> wrote: > RE: 'Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with > the"Enter Here" button on my web site ... I don't know why after all these > years my Enter Here button does not work." > > To expand on Pat's reply, your HTML code at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ is > <p align="center"> > <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="images/enterhere.gif" > WIDTH="152" HEIGHT="40"></p> > > All this code does is to display the image; that part's working. To make it > do something else, you'll need either of the following: > > 1. To make the image a link by surrounding it with a href tag, or > 2. To make it a Submit button for a form action. > > The link (which you probably intend) would look like > <p align="center"><a href="some_page.htm"> > <IMG BORDER="2" SRC="images/enterhere.gif" > WIDTH="152"HEIGHT="40"></a></p> > > "some_page.htm" would be the page you want the viewer to see next. Note the > opening <a ...> and closing </a> tags. BTW, I'd change the border from 0 to > make it more obvious that the image is a link. > > -rt_/) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 1:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 10, Issue 174 > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Rendering text around shapes! (Billie Walsh) > 2. Help with Enter Here button required please (Jean McCarthy) > 3. Re: Help with Enter Here button required please (JFlorian) > 4. Re: Help with Enter Here button required please (Patricia Geary) > 5. Re: Rendering text around shapes! (Barry Carlson) > 6. Guestbook styling (TilburyCM) > > > > Hi. > > > > Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with the > > "Enter Here" button on my web site please. It is very many years since > > created the web site and I was only a beginner even then as I am now. I > > never learned HTML or CSS and just used Front Page to create the web > site. > > > > I don't know why after all these years my Enter Here button does not > work. > > > > Any help or advice would be very much appreciaged. > > > > Very many grateful thanks in advance. > > > > Kind regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore > > > > -- > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ > > > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > -- > WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ > Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 17:44:32 -0400 > From: "Patricia Geary" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Help with Enter Here button required please > To: "'Jean McCarthy'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Jean, your enter here button is no longer linked to what whatever page you > use to enter your site. Add a hyperlink to the button and it should work > just fine. > ===================== > > Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with the > "Enter Here" button on my web site please. It is very many years since > created the web site and I was only a beginner even then as I am now. I > never learned HTML or CSS and just used Front Page to create the web site. > ============== > > pat > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:00:19 +1200 > From: "Barry Carlson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Rendering text around shapes! > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > Billie, > > In the example at:- > > http://countjustonce.com/test/mercator-resize.html > > .. the span element containing the PNG image will show its box border when > prompted to do so, and it will now turn on and off using the shape > control. Meanwhile the "shape-outside-circle()" property creates a circle > over the alpha channel pixels (the white area outside of the circular > image) which is modified by the span element padding to become an ellipse. > > So in a floated element, the box is ignored when the "shape" property is > in use, and the text will snuggle up to the shape boundary. > > Following on from the above, IE10 and IE11 can both render the exclusion > "wrap-flow:both" property, which now allows the positioning of a box > element within text. The only problem is the box element needs to be > positioned absolutely, which makes for difficulties if multiple paragraphs > need to be flowed across it. In the following example, I have used some > old techniques to overcome the problem, e.g. placed all the text in one > <p> tag and used pseudo paragraph breaks. > > http://countjustonce.com/test/css-exclusion.html > > Barry > -------------------------- > On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:12:26 +1200, Billie Walsh via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The shape tag writes over the image? > > > > I can create all sorts of shapes but they are all inside boxes with > > transparent backgrounds. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:38:34 -0400 > From: TilburyCM <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Guestbook styling > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Hello again, > > Back to work to try to finalise my South Tawton pages: is it possible to > > - style the title of the Guestbook which appears automatically when the gbk > is called: at present it's in large black characters, which don't suit the > style of these pages; > > -- reset the a:visited to the a:link definition when returning to the page: > at present, having link, visited and hover defined, once the gbk has been > visited, when going back to the page from within the group (separate > folder), the a:visited colour appears, whereas I would like it to return to > the a:link colour; ie a:visited while writing a message for the gbk, after > reading it, but a:link style when returning to the gbk write page. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/stawton/st_conta > cts_guestbook.html > > Caroline > > ____ > > "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury > "TheTilbury Magazine" > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpag > e.html > > Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. > > NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; > traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French > copyright law. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 10, Issue 174 > *********************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ [email protected]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ May have some tutorials that will help. Go to the location (such as a folder My Webs) where you want to create a new folder. Right-click a blank area in the folder window, point to New, and then click Folder. Type a name for the new folder, and then press Enter. The new folder will appear in the location you specified. If you Google "FrontPage 2000 Tutorials" there should be quite a few for you. pat

Re: "Is there someone on the List who is familiar with Frontpage 4, and will be able to help Elizabeth?" I'm using FrontPage 2003 (11.8339.84405) with SP3 and previously used FrontPage 1998. The differences from FrontPage 2000 Version 4 shouldn't be too many. I can probably answer most FrontPage questions. My chief recommendation is to primarily use the view called "Split"; a WYSIWYG view is in the bottom window and the code view is in the top window. One can easily alternate between the two windows for editing; just click in the desired window to invoke that mode. FrontPage, though it still works in Win 7, is "long in the tooth" and does have its idiosyncrasies. For example, links re-calculate when a file is moved (within the application, not outside it.) Lately though, my errant mouse-clicks make FrontPage want to recalculate links in an (apparently) endless loop; this can cause broken links and loss of files. Also, I've never been happy with the FrontPage publishing feature. I prefer a separate FTP utility for uploading and downloading files between the remote host and my local system. So Elizabeth and other users of this now-ancient technology, ask a question. -rt_/) PS -- there used to be a mailing list at Rootwseb dedicated to FrontPage.

Jean, You must have that Home Page on your computer. Can you look for the page that should be linked and post the name of it. That way we may be able to help. Barry ---------------------- On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:05:52 +1200, Jean McCarthy via <[email protected]> wrote: > Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with the > "Enter Here" button on my web site please. It is very many years since > created the web site and I was only a beginner even then as I am now. I > never learned HTML or CSS and just used Front Page to create the web > site. > > I don't know why after all these years my Enter Here button does not > work.

Following Pat Asher's desire to get a Genealogy page mobile friendly last month - http://www.argenweb.net/carroll/ ... I've been playing with 2 and 3 column floated divs, and have come up with a solution that meets approval of Google, e.g. "Awesome! This page is mobile-friendly", and looks good in all the devices available for testing in the homepage of - http://mobiletest.me As far as Desktop compatibility goes, it also renders well in older browsers back to and including IE5. Not that that should be a criteria, but dealing with "Ye Olde" IE browsers is always problematic! The divs containing the left menu, content and right menu are all floated to the left which requires differing clearing techniques for some older browsers. Notwithstanding, the left and right divs are of fixed width and the content div requires the available width be calculated. That's easily done from IE9 and peer group browsers onwards, but is done with Javascript for earlier browsers. Though I have experimented with variable text sizing, the outcome is the font-size remains constant and any images are sized as a percentage of their container's width. When the page drops into mobile layout (using - @media all and (max-width: 639px) { ) the image sizing can be changed to larger percentages, as all the columns assume a width of 100%. Here's the test page in its garish colors et al:- http://countjustonce.com/test/layout-3.html ... which now just needs the story to be told around the images that are in it, and tarted up. Barry

Pat, Thanks for responding. Judy doesn't appear to be "on deck". Yes, Elizabeth did manage to Save the page she was working on and has created another page and needs to link to that from the first page. I don't want to get involved as I'm aware that it needs to be done so that FP can recalculate the links. Barry -------------------- On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:51:46 +1200, Patricia Geary via <[email protected]> wrote: > The version Elizabeth is using is evidently FrontPage 2000. I know Judith > still uses that version but not sure who else might be. I no longer have > any > version of FP installed on my computers. > > 1999/03 - Microsoft FrontPage 2000 - Version 4 > > FP should offer the option of Save As under File. Perhaps Judy can check > for > her. >

Could someone post for Elizabeth the directions to create a directory and sub-directory in Windows 7. Pat, do you still have your Frontpage Tutorial online? Thank you, Judy

RE: 'Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with the"Enter Here" button on my web site ... I don't know why after all these years my Enter Here button does not work." To expand on Pat's reply, your HTML code at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ is <p align="center"> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="images/enterhere.gif" WIDTH="152" HEIGHT="40"></p> All this code does is to display the image; that part's working. To make it do something else, you'll need either of the following: 1. To make the image a link by surrounding it with a href tag, or 2. To make it a Submit button for a form action. The link (which you probably intend) would look like <p align="center"><a href="some_page.htm"> <IMG BORDER="2" SRC="images/enterhere.gif" WIDTH="152"HEIGHT="40"></a></p> "some_page.htm" would be the page you want the viewer to see next. Note the opening <a ...> and closing </a> tags. BTW, I'd change the border from 0 to make it more obvious that the image is a link. -rt_/) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 1:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 10, Issue 174 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rendering text around shapes! (Billie Walsh) 2. Help with Enter Here button required please (Jean McCarthy) 3. Re: Help with Enter Here button required please (JFlorian) 4. Re: Help with Enter Here button required please (Patricia Geary) 5. Re: Rendering text around shapes! (Barry Carlson) 6. Guestbook styling (TilburyCM) > Hi. > > Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with the > "Enter Here" button on my web site please. It is very many years since > created the web site and I was only a beginner even then as I am now. I > never learned HTML or CSS and just used Front Page to create the web site. > > I don't know why after all these years my Enter Here button does not work. > > Any help or advice would be very much appreciaged. > > Very many grateful thanks in advance. > > Kind regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore > > -- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 17:44:32 -0400 From: "Patricia Geary" <patgea[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Help with Enter Here button required please To: "'Jean McCarthy'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jean, your enter here button is no longer linked to what whatever page you use to enter your site. Add a hyperlink to the button and it should work just fine. ===================== Would any of you kind listers be able to help me solve a problem with the "Enter Here" button on my web site please. It is very many years since created the web site and I was only a beginner even then as I am now. I never learned HTML or CSS and just used Front Page to create the web site. ============== pat ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:00:19 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Rendering text around shapes! To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Billie, In the example at:- http://countjustonce.com/test/mercator-resize.html .. the span element containing the PNG image will show its box border when prompted to do so, and it will now turn on and off using the shape control. Meanwhile the "shape-outside-circle()" property creates a circle over the alpha channel pixels (the white area outside of the circular image) which is modified by the span element padding to become an ellipse. So in a floated element, the box is ignored when the "shape" property is in use, and the text will snuggle up to the shape boundary. Following on from the above, IE10 and IE11 can both render the exclusion "wrap-flow:both" property, which now allows the positioning of a box element within text. The only problem is the box element needs to be positioned absolutely, which makes for difficulties if multiple paragraphs need to be flowed across it. In the following example, I have used some old techniques to overcome the problem, e.g. placed all the text in one <p> tag and used pseudo paragraph breaks. http://countjustonce.com/test/css-exclusion.html Barry -------------------------- On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:12:26 +1200, Billie Walsh via <[email protected]> wrote: > The shape tag writes over the image? > > I can create all sorts of shapes but they are all inside boxes with > transparent backgrounds. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:38:34 -0400 From: TilburyCM <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp] Guestbook styling To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello again, Back to work to try to finalise my South Tawton pages: is it possible to - style the title of the Guestbook which appears automatically when the gbk is called: at present it's in large black characters, which don't suit the style of these pages; -- reset the a:visited to the a:link definition when returning to the page: at present, having link, visited and hover defined, once the gbk has been visited, when going back to the page from within the group (separate folder), the a:visited colour appears, whereas I would like it to return to the a:link colour; ie a:visited while writing a message for the gbk, after reading it, but a:link style when returning to the gbk write page. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/stawton/st_conta cts_guestbook.html Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpag e.html Every path has its puddle. 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Thank you all for trying ........I wasn`t over hopeful from the beginning but will keep plugging away at it . Thanks again . -----Original Message----- From: Barry Carlson via Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 3:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] PAGES ? Pat, Thanks for responding. Judy doesn't appear to be "on deck". Yes, Elizabeth did manage to Save the page she was working on and has created another page and needs to link to that from the first page. I don't want to get involved as I'm aware that it needs to be done so that FP can recalculate the links. Barry -------------------- On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:51:46 +1200, Patricia Geary via <[email protected]> wrote: > The version Elizabeth is using is evidently FrontPage 2000. I know Judith > still uses that version but not sure who else might be. I no longer have > any > version of FP installed on my computers. > > 1999/03 - Microsoft FrontPage 2000 - Version 4 > > FP should offer the option of Save As under File. Perhaps Judy can check > for > her. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello List, Is there someone on the List who is familiar with Frontpage 4, and will be able to help Elizabeth? I interjected without checking what she had been using, but am now become aware after checking one of her pages:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gloverhoward/bennett2.htm ... that I will dig myself deeper and deeper into the mire if I continue in offering any advice. That is no reflection on Elizabeth or her pages, as she is just making use of the tools she has, but some of the older MS software can become a nightmare if like me you are not familiar with its peculiarities. Somewhere along the way the conversation that started on the List became one to one, something that I didn't intend. I prefer the To field to be just - [email protected] Barry ----------------------- On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 04:35:48 +1200, <[email protected]> wrote: > Fallen at the first hurdle ......I have > added more to the index.html page and still cannot do more than plain > Save it ......nothing offers me the opportunity to change the existing > name or to add it to a link or whatever to Bennett 2 or to rename it as > Bennett 3 which I would prefer and then add a continuation from Bennett > 2 . > > -----Original Message----- From: Barry Carlson > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:27 AM > To: [email protected] ; elizgh > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] PAGES ? > > A page is as long as you wish it to be, but common convention suggests > that the contents of an A4 / Letter page is probably ample, though no-one > is going to get overly uptight if you stretch it a little.;-) > > You already have a page, and to continue it, just save it with another > name, e.g. the existing name, "mypage.html" as "mypage-1.html" - without > the quotes. > > Once saved, remove the existing content and add the remainder of what you > have. Once done, you can go back to the first page and add a link at the > bottom that will allow your viewers to get to it. > > Just do the first part, then ask about how to add the link. > > Barry > ------------------------ > > On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 20:59:40 +1200, elizgh via > <[email protected]web.com> wrote: > >> ...how long is a page ? please . I have hand written about 2 >> foolscap pages from my paper files to add to the Bennetts of Greenwich >> website ...and now wonder if it will fit in on the existing webpages ? > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >

Billie, I expect that the appropriate CSS will be adopted by the major browsers by the end of the year. The easiest method of checking it out is to go to:- http://netrenderer.de ... select either Internet Explorer 10 or 11 and enter - http://countjustonce.com/test/css-exclusion.html ... into the address bar. Click the Render button and in less than 2 seconds you will see the result. Note:: The image rendered contains only about 700px from the page top, and to see the next 700px enter 700 into the field to the left of the Render button, the click the button again. Barry ----------------------- On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 01:36:13 +1200, Billie Walsh via <[email protected]> wrote: > I tried the second link and it didn't work in any of my browsers.