Which page? On 27 July 2015 at 09:51, JFlorian via <[email protected]> wrote: > Only the words Question, Answer, and short phrases used as headers should > be "strong". > > But all text in the content is bold / strong. > > The page validates. I can't find (notice) the problem. Can you? > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The main page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ The include http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/2015a_sitewide_searches_include.htm I'm trying to match the level on the 2 single lines, 1 under each search box. I have it almost level, but the Florian's link is darker and bigger than the text under Freefind. I wanted both with no decoration for "a link". Plus, both search boxes "level" and the text "level" on each side. I'm wondering, too, if I could put the image to the left or right of each search box, to reduce how much room the table takes vertically? Can it be spread out more, horizontally? If so, how would I do that? Judy

Ooops sorry. Page is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/search-tips.htm On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 7:51 PM, JFlorian <[email protected]> wrote: > Only the words Question, Answer, and short phrases used as headers should > be "strong". > > But all text in the content is bold / strong. > > The page validates. I can't find (notice) the problem. Can you? > > Judy > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ and 2015a_sitewide_searches_include.htm I added a text link on the Google side. I tried to make it look exactly like the text used beside it in the other box. But it isn't quite right. They don't match for size of text; I don't want it big but not too small either. I want no text decoration on either side. Could someone take a look at the code to see how I can match the two lines of text in the coding for both? Judy

Only the words Question, Answer, and short phrases used as headers should be "strong". But all text in the content is bold / strong. The page validates. I can't find (notice) the problem. Can you? Judy

Ralph I agree that the content management systems (CMS) WordPress, Drupal, Joomla etc have made having a consistent good styling easy. While WordPress started with blogging it is a broader CMS. What I like about PHP is that the scripts can appear essentially anywhere in the HTML of the page. The style purity or otherwise, is generally not related to PHP but to the accompanying HTML. Consistent look and feel is easy to achieve using the following structure: <?php $my_title = 'The title of page'; include('header_file.php'); include('body_file_01.php'); include('footer_file.php'); ?> Where the header file has the links to style sheets and menus. It would also use the variable $my_title to populate the <title> and other tags. The body_file.php would have the body html and the footer_file.php would close the divs and add footer information. PHP scripting can interact with a variety of database types including MySQL and SQLite. While WordPress is usually used with MySQL database to hold the page information, I understand it can also be used with SQLite. However, isn't this conversation academic for RootsWeb hosting as these elements are not available? Regards Nick My Sites My home <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> My newspaper extracts <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/newspaper/index.html> Registry of Deeds Index Project <http://irishdeedsindex.net/index.html> Managed Sites Irish Genealogical Research Society <http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm> Majura tennis Club <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:02:39 -0600 From: "Ralph Taylor" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] New WordPress ? To: <[email protected]> <snip> My most serious criticism is an impression that pages delivered by PHP lack good styling. WordPress seems to have found a way to overcome most of that. ...

I now understand the difference between these 3 programs and what they can do. Expressions4 - Front Page - WordPress. I have downloaded the free version of Expressions4. I have also downloaded some Ebooks. I have also borrowed books from my local library on setting up a Web site/creating/design. This should keep me happy for the next few days. Thank you everyone for your help. Have a nice weekend. Gracie

I believe the hacking they are talking about is the website, not the users computer. Wordpress has security holes which allows someone to take over your site. Now it comes down to what is to gain. What value does someone get from learning that great aunt Helen was born in 1899. Commercial sites are much more likely to get hit. It might be possible to grab people credit card information if the site sells something. Wordpress is primarily designed for blogging sites. Not "websites" such as we normally do. That doesn't mean you can't create a genealogy site but............................... On 07/24/2015 01:02 PM, Ralph Taylor via wrote: > Re: "I do not know php at all which is the language WordPress is written in. > I do not agree with Judy that wp is easily hacked." > > I spent a few months (trying) to learn PHP. Never attained sufficient > proficiency, but remember some basics. > > PHP is a server-side scripting language which works with MySQL databases; > PHP scripts run completely on the remote host computers. PHP takes input > from a user, runs it through a script and delivers output in the form of a > Web page &/or database update. > > That's in contrast to javascript, a client-side scripting language. With > javascript, the script is downloaded to the user, along with any data other > than user input. All processing takes place on the user's system. > > PHP is considered more secure because the scripts and server-stored data > aren't seen by the user system. Only the script results appear on the user > system. > > My most serious criticism is an impression that pages delivered by PHP lack > good styling. WordPress seems to have found a way to overcome most of that. > > As to being hacked, news stories tell us anything accessible by Internet can > be hacked. It's just a question of the hackers' motivation and how easy we > make it. > > The primary defense against hacking is a secure password, closely guarded. > Choose passwords that are hard to guess and NEVER, EVER publicly disclose > them. (For example, don't give out a password on this or any other mailing > list.) > > -rt_/) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Judy, The Bot will not be able to spider the old site, so effectively it will index the new site and the old URLs will NOT be offered during a search inquiry. This could take a week or two to get sorted. Barry ----------------- On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:10:04 +1200, JFlorian via <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok so if I moved a page from folder "white" to folder "black" but the > page > name remained the same, do I have to do anything more, beyond just > linking > the new page correctly? > > How do I tell Google to "ignore" the old pages?

Re: "I do not know php at all which is the language WordPress is written in. I do not agree with Judy that wp is easily hacked." I spent a few months (trying) to learn PHP. Never attained sufficient proficiency, but remember some basics. PHP is a server-side scripting language which works with MySQL databases; PHP scripts run completely on the remote host computers. PHP takes input from a user, runs it through a script and delivers output in the form of a Web page &/or database update. That's in contrast to javascript, a client-side scripting language. With javascript, the script is downloaded to the user, along with any data other than user input. All processing takes place on the user's system. PHP is considered more secure because the scripts and server-stored data aren't seen by the user system. Only the script results appear on the user system. My most serious criticism is an impression that pages delivered by PHP lack good styling. WordPress seems to have found a way to overcome most of that. As to being hacked, news stories tell us anything accessible by Internet can be hacked. It's just a question of the hackers' motivation and how easy we make it. The primary defense against hacking is a secure password, closely guarded. Choose passwords that are hard to guess and NEVER, EVER publicly disclose them. (For example, don't give out a password on this or any other mailing list.) -rt_/)

Ok so if I moved a page from folder "white" to folder "black" but the page name remained the same, do I have to do anything more, beyond just linking the new page correctly? How do I tell Google to "ignore" the old pages? Judy On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Patricia Geary <[email protected]> wrote: > Judy, none of the rootsweb servers allows us to use a custom 404 page. > > pat > > > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

Judy, none of the rootsweb servers allows us to use a custom 404 page. pat

If you move a page on freepages, what do you do about the OLD URL? Can a custom 404 send info to Google that says "This is a dead page but now go over to this new URL" ? What exactly would this kind of non-htaccess 404 have on it? How is it written (for a freepages site) so Google drops those old pages/URLs out of indexing? e.g. assume new page moved, not deleted just in a new directory? Judy

Thank you Pat and Judy for your help and suggestions. I have visited and made a list of all the links mentioned in these emails. A lot of interesting reading and I easily got side tracked. In my wanderings I came across "WordPress" I think this is the program I tried to use once before. Maybe I should try again. As I am a complete novice which program would be the easiest to use? Where do I start? Gracie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patricia Geary via Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2015 12:43 a.m. To: 'hutley'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] New You might want to try eBay to find FrontPage 2003. That is the last one Microsoft offered. It is no longer supported. Personally I think that it would be beneficial to learn some HTML first before using CSS. I took classes on both and found that it helps to learn HTML first. I still use it and am quite happy with my results. There are quite a few free backgrounds available. If you use them you will have to give credit to the author. I would be willing to help you with some of it. =============== I would not spend the money to buy FrontPage 2003 (or any version for that matter) when Expression Web is offered as a free download. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36179 Even though the name of the file indicates it is a trial, it is NOT. It is the full version with no activation required. pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10287 - Release Date: 07/22/15

Hi Pat & all, Just a short message since I'm on my way out the door. Check out http://wptavern.com/fbi-warns-of-isil-defacement-attacks-on-wordpress-sites And check http://thehackernews.com/2015/04/WordPress-vulnerability.html Judy

Sorry, hit send before I added one of the links. This is for Gracie but anyone else who might be interested can read it :>) There are any number of free web editors out there you can try. My main experience is with FrontPage which is what I used for many years and now Expression Web. My very first web editor was Arachnophilia <http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/> . It's still available and still free but is NOT a WYSIWYG editor. CoffeeCup Free HTML Editor <http://www.coffeecup.com/free-editor/> is also free. I have not used it so cannot say how easy or hard it is to use. KompoZer <http://kompozer.net/> is another free one and appears to be a WYSIWYG editor. The full list is here. http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/resources.htm I would take the time to learn at least the basics of writing html and css which is going to make the job of creating and maintaining your web site much easier and less frustrating in the end. Once you have learned some of the basics, download a couple of the free ones and see which one YOU like and is easiest for YOU to work with. When you run into a problem, come back to the list and ask questions. We're a friendly bunch and for the most part don't bite. pat Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-free pages-ebook.html> Planning a Genealogy Website EBook 2nd Edition <http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html>

This is for Gracie but anyone else who might be interested can read it :>) There are any number of free web editors out there you can try. My main experience is with FrontPage which is what I used for many years and now Expression Web. My very first web editor was Arachnophilia <http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/> . It's still available and still free but is NOT a WYSIWYG editor. CoffeeCup Free HTML Editor <http://www.coffeecup.com/free-editor/> is also free. I have not used it so cannot say how easy or hard it is to use. KompoZer <http://kompozer.net/> is another free one and appears to be a WYSIWYG editor. The full list is here. I would take the time to learn at least the basics of writing html and css which is going to make the job of creating and maintaining your web site much easier and less frustrating in the end. Once you have learned some of the basics, download a couple of the free ones and see which one YOU like and is easiest for YOU to work with. When you run into a problem, come back to the list and ask questions. We're a friendly bunch and for the most part don't bite. pat Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-free pages-ebook.html> Planning a Genealogy Website EBook 2nd Edition <http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/genealogy-website-ebook.html>

I've read up on WordPress because a friend has a site and I thought about making a commercial site with WP. But from what I read and learned, WP can easily be hacked. Hackers don't care what site they take over, so even genealogy sites have been targets. Plus, all the addons and stuff makes really complicated coding. It would be hard to fix if something breaks. My friend had nothing but trouble with WP. She finally had to hire a company in India ($60.00 a month for upkeep with only 1/2 hour a month for questions!) just to fix the mess. I'd stay away from WordPress. ================ First off, I do not know php at all which is the language WordPress is written in. I do not agree with Judy that wp is easily hacked. I have had my blogs for quite a few years now and they have never been hacked. I use strong passwords, make sure I keep it updated and take other security precautions. WordPress cannot be used on any of the RootsWeb servers. If you want to use WP, you need to install it on your own server space of try WordPress.com which offers free hosting. And a couple of web designers I know now use WP for business sites more than static web sites. That being said, I still prefer a static web site. pat

Gracie, WordPress will NOT work with freepages. You would either need to host the blog on your own domain or wordPress.com which offers free hosting. I maintain 3 wordpress blogs but do not use them for genealogy. One is a site I maintain for our church, one is a companion site for my expression web site and one is a companion site for Genealogy Web Creations. WordPress in not installed on your computer, it is hosted on a server that you access to create your pages. pat ================ Pat and Judy for your help and suggestions. I have visited and made a list of all the links mentioned in these emails. A lot of interesting reading and I easily got side tracked. In my wanderings I came across "WordPress" I think this is the program I tried to use once before. Maybe I should try again. As I am a complete novice which program would be the easiest to use? Where do I start? Gracie

Gracie, I've read up on WordPress because a friend has a site and I thought about making a commercial site with WP. But from what I read and learned, WP can easily be hacked. Hackers don't care what site they take over, so even genealogy sites have been targets. Plus, all the addons and stuff makes really complicated coding. It would be hard to fix if something breaks. My friend had nothing but trouble with WP. She finally had to hire a company in India ($60.00 a month for upkeep with only 1/2 hour a month for questions!) just to fix the mess. I'd stay away from WordPress. I wish I could direct you better on WYSIWYG editors. I've stuck with Frontpage2000 because it is reliable and easy, even though it is a dinosaur and does weird things sometimes. How about doing an experiment--- download the free Expressions Web and just look inside it. Read through Help files that Pat G has on her website. As another person said, you will have to start learning html coding. Why? Because you cannot fix what you do not know. Plus, you cannot personalize what you do not know. BUT you have the people on this list. People here will help you. Set up Expressions Web and use Pat's template. Then just ask questions:: How do I change the background color? How do I put an image into a page? How do I make a Link? (Or, when I added this onto my page, something messed up my page--why?) You'll get step by step guidance. If you don't understand something, people will explain it. You'll learn so much too! Judy