Thanks everyone. Billie sent me a red rose that I muted. Looking at several options, the Rev picked the rose (thanks Billie). Now, to get the funeral program & music done. The music came together fairly easily. Thanks again. Judy

The image is one of those "muted" rose pics that is supposed to look like an embossed (?) image. It's a silvery white (on a light silvery-gray background). She's going to try printing it on pastel colored paper. Should probably chg the bkg to white. Text should be okay. I'm more worried I will 'stretch' it too much, make it too blurred. Yes 77x100 is what Photoshop said for pixel dimensions. I'll check it on a browser. Anyone have a "quasi-spiritual" e.g. "beautifully-uplifting" image good to use for a funeral booklet? Judy

I'm helping a Reverend make a MS Word 6-page document for a funeral. I'm trying to find an image she can print out on paper as a background first, then reload those pages into the printer and print MS Word Doc text onto the imaged-paper. I have a 50kb - 77 width 100 height. It is of a single rose. What would I need to do to adjust the size so it will be one image per 8.5 x 11 inch paper? Anyone familiar with doing this? Judy

Judy, The following I did some time ago and it relates to an ordered list, but the principles are exactly the same:- http://countjustonce.com/test/lists-again.html ... the markup is shown beneath the rendered list. I also note that your freepages genealogy site contains the following "linked" files:- text/html 2023 URLs text/css 2 URLs image/jpeg 4507 URLs image/gif 30 URLs appl'n/pdf 3 URLs image/bmp 2 URLs image/png 5 URLs Total 6572 URLs 100.00% 210.195536/1.024 = 205.269 MB All pages, by result type: 6572 URLs 95.01% External 345 URLs 4.99% Total 6917 URLs 100.00% Barry ------------- On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:41:58 +1200, JFlorian via <[email protected]> wrote: > Here's one of my first confusions about levels in lists. This validates. > Without the one li that I'm questioning, it gives an error. > > <..ul> > <..li> > <...a href="some link"><b>First Level 'Parent' Title</b></a></li> > <..li> -------------------THIS ONE, WHY does it need 2 OPEN LI TAGS > before Child 1 (when li opens Child 1 anyway)? Why open the li before > the > 2nd ul is even open,? Why doesn't the very first instance on a First > Level > Title match so it would also start with li then ul, like it does below? > I > keep omitting this open li -- I don't understand the pattern. And where > does this li close > <...ul> > <...li> > <...a href="some link">Child 1</a></li> > <...li> > <...a href="some link">Child 2</a></li> > <...li> > <...a href="some link">A different Child but still 'in the > family'</a></li> > </ul> > </ul> > > Seems I should only need li on Child, not two lines up from the first > child. Why does it require opening a list before opening the UL there? > e.g. why isn't it always just ul li between all sub-lists?: > <..ul> > <..li> > > Judy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's one of my first confusions about levels in lists. This validates. Without the one li that I'm questioning, it gives an error. <..ul> <..li> <...a href="some link"><b>First Level 'Parent' Title</b></a></li> <..li> -------------------THIS ONE, WHY does it need 2 OPEN LI TAGS before Child 1 (when li opens Child 1 anyway)? Why open the li before the 2nd ul is even open,? Why doesn't the very first instance on a First Level Title match so it would also start with li then ul, like it does below? I keep omitting this open li -- I don't understand the pattern. And where does this li close <...ul> <...li> <...a href="some link">Child 1</a></li> <...li> <...a href="some link">Child 2</a></li> <...li> <...a href="some link">A different Child but still 'in the family'</a></li> </ul> </ul> Seems I should only need li on Child, not two lines up from the first child. Why does it require opening a list before opening the UL there? e.g. why isn't it always just ul li between all sub-lists?: <..ul> <..li> Judy

Nested lists are easier than the prior discussion made them seem. Think of a subsidiary, nested list as being enclosed _WITHIN_AN_ITEM_ of the higher-level list. Like (with preceding dots for opening tags) so: <.ul> <.li>Item 1 <!-- Do NOT close this item yet --> <.ul> <.li>Item 1a</li> <.li>Item 1b</li> </ul> </li> <!-- NOW you close Item 1 --> <.li>Item 2</li> </ul> It works similarly with ordered lists but you'd probably want to use something like: <.ol type="1"> <.li>Item 1 <!-- Do NOT close this item yet --> <.ol type="a"> <.li>Item 1a</li> <.li>Item 1b</li> </ol> </li> <!-- NOW you close Item 1 --> <.li>Item 2</li> </ol> The trick is not to close the item containing the nested list until after closing the nested list. When you close that item, you're saying (in HTML) that you're either beginning a new item at the same level as before or a new list. -rt_/)

Items equals all pages and images, e.g the whole site. Don't need to list images in the user site map. About 4,000 pages give or take.. See Pat's Site Map as an example: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ildewitt/site-map.html

No. 7,700+ items... About 4,000 pages. Give or take. Freefind only indexes about 6,000 of the 7700+.items. Judy

Pat, I also notice you put your li's above the item. Does this help you keep straight what you need to close after a group? Or is it just your preferred positioning for li? (rather than putting it as: li><a ) I think I understand how to move from Item I, then list of Items, then Item 2 (same level as Item 1) and list of items...end list. But how do I get another list "inside" and grouped under Item 2? Example: First Level Item 1 First Level Item 2 ---Group Item 1 ---Group Item 2 ---------Third Level Item A --------------Group Item 1 -----------------------Fourth Level Item -------------------------------Group Item 1 -------------------------------Group Item 1 ---------------Group Item 2 ---------Third Level Item B etc. How do you switch in and out of levels? I read a web page that made it all sound (deceptively?) simple. It said to do each list separately, then copy it into the spot in the bigger list. I need to get the "pattern" down for the uls and lis (like knit one pearl two) but I mess up the pattern when switching between levels. I'm missing something I need to use. Judy

I think we have a disconnect. Are you counting your images. I'm not sure what your calling "items". On 08/11/2015 03:29 PM, JFlorian wrote: > No. 7,700+ items... About 4,000 pages. Give or take. > > Freefind only indexes about 6,000 of the 7700+.items. > > Judy -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

One other reason: Limit 500 pgs. I have 7,000+ items...about half are html pages.

Billy asked: Why do it the hard way? ------------------------------------- 1. Machines aren't humans. They don't say, "Dummy, you have an error here." 2. Doing it myself lets me correct my errors. See #1. Example: Family Reunuion or Reuniom isn't something a site map generator points out. Nor does it complain when a title is not descriptive, like "Index Page" on a subfolder when it should be "Index to WWII Soldiers xxx County, State". 3. Generators have never read a Table of Contents in a Book they've held and thumbed through. If Chapter 8 appears before Chapter 4, generators don't bat a byte. Humans like things to make sense. 4. To learn to do, you must do to learn. I need to learn how to do nested lists. 5. For those who learn by doing but learn less from reading (only), the only way is to do, screw up, and redo it. See #4. 6. Because for every error I make that affects the page layout, I learn another tidbit about webpages. 7. I can still submit an .xml later to satisfy Google. But by then, I'll have fixed my errors. See 1, 2, 3, and maybe 4. Judy

The 500 free limit was just one example of a generator. There were many more. You have 7,000 pages? On 08/11/2015 02:02 PM, JFlorian wrote: > One other reason: Limit 500 pgs. I have 7,000+ items...about half > are html pages. -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Revised and corrected page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ildewitt/site-map.html pat

Probably cause someone else edited the list and made changes since this page has not been converted to the new layout. Need to work on it. They should all be unordered lists not ordered. Happens when more than one person is working on the site. pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JFlorian via Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:53 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp] Pat G. question I'm looking over your Site Map here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ildewitt/site-map.html I noticed on the first top entry you use unordered list: <...ul> <...li> <a title="Home - DeWitt GenWeb Project." href="link">Home</a></li> But on the Places, Communities etc. you have ol after the top heading. <...li><...span class="heading">Places &amp; Geography</span><...ol> Can you tell me reasons you used ol for those? Still floundering over my site map. I have all the titles...if I can just figure out the nesting. Somebody by now should have made an online tool to make a 3-tier nested map. Once I get the mark-up correct, would this work on a freepages site? http://www.gnostice.com/nl_article.asp?id=208&t=making_an_interactive_treevi ew_control_from_an_html_nested_list

Why do it the hard way? I was always told to work smarter, not harder. <quote> Build your Site Map online (XML, ROR, Text, HTML) This website is to let you: Create an XML sitemap that can be submitted to Google, Bing, Yahoo and other search engines to help them crawl your website better. Create a Text sitemap to have a plain list of all your pages. Create a ROR sitemap, which is an independant XML format for any search engine. Generate an HTML site map to allow human visitors to easily navigate on your site. https://www.xml-sitemaps.com/ <unquote> Free up to 500 pages OR Google "sitemap generator" and pick from the dozens shown. Google itself no longer has a sitemap generator service. Freefind web site search engine will create one for your site. On 08/11/2015 02:53 AM, JFlorian via wrote: > I'm looking over your Site Map here: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ildewitt/site-map.html > > I noticed on the first top entry you use unordered list: > <...ul> <...li> > <a title="Home - DeWitt GenWeb Project." href="link">Home</a></li> > > But on the Places, Communities etc. you have ol after the top heading. > <...li><...span class="heading">Places &amp; Geography</span><...ol> > > Can you tell me reasons you used ol for those? > > Still floundering over my site map. I have all the titles...if I can just > figure out the nesting. Somebody by now should have made an online tool to > make a 3-tier nested map. > > Once I get the mark-up correct, would this work on a freepages site? > http://www.gnostice.com/nl_article.asp?id=208&t=making_an_interactive_treeview_control_from_an_html_nested_list > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I'm looking over your Site Map here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ildewitt/site-map.html I noticed on the first top entry you use unordered list: <...ul> <...li> <a title="Home - DeWitt GenWeb Project." href="link">Home</a></li> But on the Places, Communities etc. you have ol after the top heading. <...li><...span class="heading">Places &amp; Geography</span><...ol> Can you tell me reasons you used ol for those? Still floundering over my site map. I have all the titles...if I can just figure out the nesting. Somebody by now should have made an online tool to make a 3-tier nested map. Once I get the mark-up correct, would this work on a freepages site? http://www.gnostice.com/nl_article.asp?id=208&t=making_an_interactive_treeview_control_from_an_html_nested_list Judy

Billie, The following is what you want:- Windows > Update & Security > Back up using File History Backup your files to another drive and restore them if the originals are lost, damaged, or deleted. Automatically back up my files ... slider to ON also check - More Options [how often, what folders/files etc..] ... below above is:- Looking for an older backup? If you created a backup using the Windows 7 Backup and Restore tool, it'll still work in Windows 10. check out item below - Go to Backup and Restore (Windows 7) ... so your system image DVDs will still be valid. Barry --------------- On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:55:21 +1200, Billie Walsh via <[email protected]> wrote: > A hidden feature of Windows 7 is the creation of a system restore set of > DVD's. create system restore DVD set in windows 7. A short while back my > computer popped up a message that the hard drive was dying. Not a > pleasant prospect. A little research on th web found that Windows 7 will > create a system image that can be used to completely reinstall your > system. It took 8 DVD's for my computer. > > Start > Maintenance > Backup and Restore > Create System Image > > Can someone follow a similar path in 10 and see if there is something > similar. Google doesn't turn up anything.

Also a good idea, but not what I needed at that particular point. When I got the message that my hard drive was dying I immediately copied off all my critical stuff to another drive. The problem was reinstalling everything to another drive. For that I needed a system restore set of DVD's, or as it worked out, a way to clone the new drive with the old one. We found a device that would clone one drive to another of equal size or larger, I believe on Amazon. It's named Aukey, that's the only name on it. It has two SATA drive "slots" that will accept 3.5 or 2.5 inch drives [ desktop and laptop ]. Plug it in, put the source drive in it's slot and the new one in the "target" slot, turn it on, push the clone button and go away for a couple hours, minimum. There are four LED lights that flash in sequence. As the cloning is completed each one will light solid as an indication of how far along the process is. When the last one is solid the clone is complete. Put the new drive in the computer and fire it up.The box can also be used as a "drop in" external drive housing with your computer by USB cable. With my new cloned drive installed everything was back to normal and operating just like before. Without a device to clone the drive I could have installed my system with the image set created off the old drive. About all I use that computer for is video editing shows for the TV station. We buy a terrabyte drive every year to load all the shows on as a "library" for the station. I just copied the shows off the computer onto that drive before it died completely. We can, so far, load all the syndicated shows for an entire year on one drive with room left over. At the station there is a room lined floor to ceiling with 3/4 inch numatic tape cassettes, think giant VHS cartidges, that can't hold near that much programming. All my genealogy and websites are on a second drive in my Kubuntu Linux computer. Also, backed up to an external drive. All the FTP information for my websites are "cloned" to my laptop as well as my address book and with Firefox's Synch feature I don't lose bookmarks between all my computers. On 08/09/2015 10:34 PM, Barry Carlson via wrote: > Billie, > > The following is what you want:- > > Windows > Update & Security > Back up using File History > > Backup your files to another drive and restore them if the originals are > lost, damaged, or deleted. > > Automatically back up my files > > ... slider to ON > > also check - More Options [how often, what folders/files etc..] > > ... below above is:- > > Looking for an older backup? > > If you created a backup using the Windows 7 Backup and Restore tool, it'll > still work in Windows 10. > > check out item below - > > Go to Backup and Restore (Windows 7) > > ... so your system image DVDs will still be valid. > > Barry > --------------- > > On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:55:21 +1200, Billie Walsh via > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A hidden feature of Windows 7 is the creation of a system restore set of >> DVD's. create system restore DVD set in windows 7. A short while back my >> computer popped up a message that the hard drive was dying. Not a >> pleasant prospect. A little research on th web found that Windows 7 will >> create a system image that can be used to completely reinstall your >> system. It took 8 DVD's for my computer. >> >> Start > Maintenance > Backup and Restore > Create System Image >> >> Can someone follow a similar path in 10 and see if there is something >> similar. Google doesn't turn up anything. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

On Monday, August 3, 2015 6:12 PM, Billie Walsh via <[email protected]> wrote: What else did they hide they aren't telling anyone about till it's to late? That it's an AUTO INSTALL on Win 7 & 8, and certain APPs discontinued.  Others, "Pay for", in the future.  No "back up" w/o the right disks.  Older [non-optical] disks are rendered unreadable.  Windows Media Player is gone.  Now, there's a DVD, which they plan on charging for, after you "grab it".  Games ["Solitaire"] affected. (meh, never play those anyway, but many do.  A free game since 1990)  My biggest concern might be the excerpt below.  What might we LOSE with all these Installs, Clean Installs, et al.?  I'm no puter tech, but I know enough to know that one best have Restore Points, or it's a rollback to factory [I haven't even found how to do that on my Win 8.1]Maybe Barry can answer the 'data loss', as a possibility,.    Read this Forbes mag article from 4 days ago: Windows 10 Starts Charging For Missing Features |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Windows 10 Starts Charging For Missing FeaturesMicrosoft starts introducing costs to Windows 10 users to restore features it removed from Windows 7 and Windows 8... | | | | View on www.forbes.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/05/windows-10-charging/ Excerpt: Digging further into the player’s FAO page, Microsoft states only upgraders from Windows 7 or Windows 8 will get it free and users who perform clean installations of Windows 10 will not. Furthermore if users ever need to reinstall Windows 10 (for example, due to problems) then Microsoft doesn’t count that as coming from Windows 7 or Windows 8 and again you lose free access to Windows DVD Player unless you first install Windows 7 or Windows 8 then upgrade to Windows 10.  Then, there are the barrage of "ADS".  It's all in the above article, which is a rather "conservative" magazine.If Forbes is saying this isn't good, might it not be?     I have ABP [ad blocker];  I'm wondering if I will have to get rid of that, to even use Win 10.   "The proof will be in the pudding", but there's not much one can do about it. I'll try Barry's suggestions, but to try to keep Windows 10 from auto-downloading. I only just got a handle on using Win 8.1; now, this.   I'll NEVER get my freepage updated/changed at this rate.   Web 4 has been downloaded since January,  files were transferred to this newer laptop; all in one HUGE 2 GB Folder "old Puter".  Template and [coded: CSS & HTML] 'workups' Pat G. did for me, were moved into Web 4, as per my son helping.  As he thought, Web 4 is too advanced for me.  I have a mess on my hands. Also, I have a "compatibility" issue w/Web 4; guess that's because I'm using Google Chrome, and not IE, or FF?  I haven't bothered posting here about it.  I had used Firefox, so everything I've saved/done is by using FF as my browser.  I have a lot of reordering of Files to do, from "Old Puter" Folder.  Otherwise, it makes sense that I will have a conflict, since I set up my folders as per Pat's 'like a filing cabinet' tutorial.  [Can't have the same name, in different folders:  eg. My Webs, right?]Reading here is helpful, but it's still difficult for me to understand.    Win 10 is probably the least of my worries.       Kathie Buchanan  [Should have started a new topic, sorry.  I've meant to send drafts about my File Folders and problems w/ Web 4, many times, but never did so.  Too long/complicated.  Plus, I don't know where to begin w/ explaining my problems any better than I have here.  I know you will all want to help me, and I'm not ready.  Maybe this winter, when I'm snowed in for months at a time.  By then, I might understand how to use Win 10, if/when it's forced upon me, automatically...]  08/03/2015 04:57 PM, Barry Carlson via wrote: > I agree the Windows 10 default settings for their Updates are not ideal, > but the solution is available in Settings as per the the following:- > > Click on the Windows 10 icon (left side of Taskbar) > Settings > Update & > Security > Windows Update > Advanced options > Choose how updates are > delivered > > > The slider should be On > > .. now select the Radio button marked - PCs on my local network. > > This prevents any outgoing updates traffic going on the Internet, and will > only provide data to any other PCs that are classified as belonging to > your Local Network (if you have one). > > You can now close the Windows dialogue page. > > Barry > ----------------- > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:40:05 +1200, Billie Walsh via > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> DO NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 10!!!!!! >> >> Especially if you have limited bandwidth internet connections. Windows >> 10, by default, uses a system similar to Bittorrent >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent . What that means is that >> Windows uses YOUR computer to feed files and updates to other peoples >> computers. In effect they are stealing your internet bandwidth to update >> other computers. Kathie notes:  I don't even really understand the above.  But, BitTorrent was used by my son for video gaming on his old computer.  It was nearly impossible to remove.  I trashed the old laptop after transferring files.  It was rendered useless after deleting the programs that were my younger son's.