As you say, an exciting time. I was an IT graphist working for the CEO of the european consortium which held the final discussions in USA as to the percentage of each participant in setting up the Internet. A first time for me as my presentations went to and fro across the Atlantic!!! Later in the 1990s I worked for a group attempting to put in place in France the kind of Internet service we enjoy today, subscription sites, e-commerce and TV included. Sadly they were well before their time and their project didn't find investors. France is a conservative country but, thank goodness, we got there in the end, and my fh website continues to grow - much to my delight. Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Mather via <[email protected]> To: freepages-help <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:56 Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Early internet Interesting article! I remember the days well. AOL cost a fortune, not to mention the long distance phone costs to reach the nearest dial-up access number. Modems were incredibly slow, and I used "usenet", which was provided by a guy in town who somehow had access to it. I also got my first email address from him. It's hard to remember all the details now, but it was an exciting time - what can we discover on usenet today!!! It eventually made genealogy MUCH easier. We used to have to make 2 hour trips to the nearest LDS center to scan through microfilm and microfiche that had to be ordered in advance. Not easy. On 1/14/2016 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > With my association with UMassD, MIT, WHOI and acronyms in general, I > received an email with a link to an article published by PRI in which a > couple of the founders of the Internet ponder its future now it has > turned 25. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 08:13 AM 1/17/2016, david thiessen via wrote: >I am getting back into genealogy and have been trying to organzie my >freepages site and have a couple of questions: > >1) Is there *any* way to get MailMerge to work? It seems the captcha >mechanism as currently implemented, is broken. The problem has been reported but Help Desk says there is no time frame for a fix. >2) Is there any way to change my user ID? For example, my freepages >are under /~dthiessen. Is there any way I can request ~dthiessen be >moved to a new ID, say, ~thiessendg? No. UserIDs can not be changed. Pat A.

I am getting back into genealogy and have been trying to organzie my freepages site and have a couple of questions: 1) Is there *any* way to get MailMerge to work? It seems the captcha mechanism as currently implemented, is broken. 2) Is there any way to change my user ID? For example, my freepages are under /~dthiessen. Is there any way I can request ~dthiessen be moved to a new ID, say, ~thiessendg? Thanks in advance. -- David Thiessen OpenPGP Key Id: 0x3E228D41 Available from: http://pgp.mit.edu http://www.linkedin.com/in/thssndvd

Interesting article! I remember the days well. AOL cost a fortune, not to mention the long distance phone costs to reach the nearest dial-up access number. Modems were incredibly slow, and I used "usenet", which was provided by a guy in town who somehow had access to it. I also got my first email address from him. It's hard to remember all the details now, but it was an exciting time - what can we discover on usenet today!!! It eventually made genealogy MUCH easier. We used to have to make 2 hour trips to the nearest LDS center to scan through microfilm and microfiche that had to be ordered in advance. Not easy. On 1/14/2016 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > With my association with UMassD, MIT, WHOI and acronyms in general, I > received an email with a link to an article published by PRI in which a > couple of the founders of the Internet ponder its future now it has > turned 25.

With my association with UMassD, MIT, WHOI and acronyms in general, I received an email with a link to an article published by PRI in which a couple of the founders of the Internet ponder its future now it has turned 25. http://tinyurl.com/hhdmoau Now, pondering or forecasting the future gives the grey matter a bit of a work-out, but is rarely proved to be right. Food for thought! In case you are wondering; University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and Public Radio International are all cases where acronyms come into their own. ;-) Foot Note: Tim Berners-Lee is credited with inventing the World Wide Web in 1989/90.

Vanessa, PDFs are permitted on Rootsweb and Freepages accounts. Judy

"Limited to 5,000 items (htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt)" On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Dennis Ahern <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Regarding the 5,000 limit. I have well over that, but still have a > > free account. When I reached the limit I requested, and was granted, > > an increase. This was almost 8 years ago already. I don't know what > > the current policy is, but I simply asked and was granted the increase. > > 5,000 what? > > -dja > > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

> Regarding the 5,000 limit. I have well over that, but still have a > free account. When I reached the limit I requested, and was granted, > an increase. This was almost 8 years ago already. I don't know what > the current policy is, but I simply asked and was granted the increase. 5,000 what? -dja

Pat, A case of someone altering the source code without realizing the consequences, i.e. there will be many guestbooks that are no longer being maintained, and now effectively they have been written off. The intention of the 301 redirect of rootsweb.com to rootsweb.ancestry.com was to provide continuity to the legacy sites. In any case, as you have said, a Good Catch by David Thiessen. Barry ------------------- On 10/01/2016 05:46, Pat Asher via wrote: > Good catch! > > Pat A. > > At 09:18 AM 1/9/2016, david thiessen via wrote: >>I was having this issue and I finally fixed it by editing my html. I >>changed all instances of rootsweb.com to rootsweb.ancestry.com in the >>source code. >> >>In other words, this -> >>http://resources.rootsweb.com/~guestbook/cgi-bin/public_guestbook.cgi?gb=935&action=view >> >>should be chnaged to this -> >>http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~guestbook/cgi-bin/public_guestbook.cgi?gb=935&action=view > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kim, Many thanks for all of this! I tried out Thunderbird a couple of years ago -- installed it and tried the "Import" function to import my Eudora email. It worked away at it for a while then failed for some reason, I can't remember why. I really need the multiple folders feature of Eudora -- I use filters to direct incoming messages to different folders according to trigger words in the text or according to sender's name, etc. Emails containing obvious spam or sexually explicit phrases I just route to Trash without ever looking at them. But maybe it's time to take another look at it. Not enough hours in the day. Take care, Chas. Dobie. At 07:46 PM 1/9/2016, you wrote: >Charlie, I checked out of curiosity and there is a version of Eudora >for Linux. Although like the Windows version it's no longer supported. >You can download it on cnet. Eudora is a commercial mail program that >was based off Thunderbird. Thunderbird is still being maintained and >works for both Windows and Linux. Have you ever tried it? It's the >email program I've used for years. > >A good way to see if your software is known to work in Linux is to check >the WINE HQ database. This is the one for Brothers Keeper. >https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=7841 > >It seems the trick to getting it to work it to copy a file from your >Windows system that WINE can't install. I haven't tried it but might >later. Their is also information there on how to get FrontPage web >designer working in WINE. It's important to click on the tests to read >the information. Often if you see a lot of reports of "garbage" it's >because someone tried a one click install. Then you see ratings of gold >or silver and it will have notes that a simple setting was changed that >caused the program to work. > >I know that Linux has a version of FileZilla it's what I use to update >my website. > >One idea if it helps. If you really want to run Linux but need Windows >for just a few important programs that wont run in WINE for you, you can >run a copy of Windows in a virtual box in Linux. I do this and it works >well. A virtual box lets you run more than one operating system at the >same time. You can also share files back and forth between them if you >want to. > >I installed the free virtualbox software and then installed a copy of >Windows that I already own into that. In this case it's XP. I use that >to run FTM 2012 and RootsMagic 7 because FTM will not work in Linux at >all. RM7 will run in WINE but I find it buggy that way. My laptop does >have Windows 10 on it as well when I need to use that for something. > >What I like about this setup is that most of the software I use is made >for Linux but a few I love is Windows only. I have older software that >runs better in XP then newer windows. Since it's in a virtualbox I can >back that up and easily re import it into my computer if it was to >become corrupt. I can also block it from accessing the internet through >Windows if security in an older operating system is a concern. > >Kim > >On 16-01-09 02:00 PM, Charles Dobie via wrote: > > > > I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as > > Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me > > that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. > > > > Charlie Dobie. > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11363 - Release Date: 01/09/16 Charles Dobie, [email protected]

Charlie, I checked out of curiosity and there is a version of Eudora for Linux. Although like the Windows version it's no longer supported. You can download it on cnet. Eudora is a commercial mail program that was based off Thunderbird. Thunderbird is still being maintained and works for both Windows and Linux. Have you ever tried it? It's the email program I've used for years. A good way to see if your software is known to work in Linux is to check the WINE HQ database. This is the one for Brothers Keeper. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=7841 It seems the trick to getting it to work it to copy a file from your Windows system that WINE can't install. I haven't tried it but might later. Their is also information there on how to get FrontPage web designer working in WINE. It's important to click on the tests to read the information. Often if you see a lot of reports of "garbage" it's because someone tried a one click install. Then you see ratings of gold or silver and it will have notes that a simple setting was changed that caused the program to work. I know that Linux has a version of FileZilla it's what I use to update my website. One idea if it helps. If you really want to run Linux but need Windows for just a few important programs that wont run in WINE for you, you can run a copy of Windows in a virtual box in Linux. I do this and it works well. A virtual box lets you run more than one operating system at the same time. You can also share files back and forth between them if you want to. I installed the free virtualbox software and then installed a copy of Windows that I already own into that. In this case it's XP. I use that to run FTM 2012 and RootsMagic 7 because FTM will not work in Linux at all. RM7 will run in WINE but I find it buggy that way. My laptop does have Windows 10 on it as well when I need to use that for something. What I like about this setup is that most of the software I use is made for Linux but a few I love is Windows only. I have older software that runs better in XP then newer windows. Since it's in a virtualbox I can back that up and easily re import it into my computer if it was to become corrupt. I can also block it from accessing the internet through Windows if security in an older operating system is a concern. Kim On 16-01-09 02:00 PM, Charles Dobie via wrote: > > I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as > Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me > that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. > > Charlie Dobie. > >

At 04:43 PM 1/9/2016, Barry Carlson via wrote: >A case of someone altering the source code without realizing the >consequences, i.e. there will be many guestbooks that are no longer >being maintained, and now effectively they have been written off. The >intention of the 301 redirect of rootsweb.com to rootsweb.ancestry.com >was to provide continuity to the legacy sites. While the redirect from rootsweb.com to rootsweb.ancestry.com is supposed to be permanent, it only stopped working for the guestbook script a few months ago. Personally, I am one of many on this list who created their guestbook long before the URI was changed, still had the original code; and since the redirect had worked for many years, it never occurred to me that it could suddenly stop working for guestbooks only. Should have remembered that some people had trouble with URI/redirect when trying to FTP. Live and learn <g> >In any case, as you have said, a Good Catch by David Thiessen. Pat

Nice one, David! Many thanks! Derek Boddington -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of david thiessen via Sent: 09 January 2016 14:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Problem with guestbook I was having this issue and I finally fixed it by editing my html. I changed all instances of rootsweb.com to rootsweb.ancestry.com in the source code.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:16 AM, Vanessa Stern <[email protected]> wrote: FreeFind is back working for me after about 2 weeks.  I guess the problem was with FiOS, but was something out of my control. Regarding the 5,000 limit.  I have well over that, but still have a free account.  When I reached the limit I requested, and was granted, an increase.  This was almost 8 years ago already.  I don't know what the current policy is, but I simply asked and was granted the increase. I'm so very happy things are now resolved w/ FreeFind, et al. Wishing you the best!   Kathie B. 

On Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:22 PM, Barry Carlson via <[email protected]> wrote: As of January 12, 2016, Microsoft will be ending support for Internet  Explorer 8, 9, and 10. This means that those browsers will no longer  receive security updates, which will make them more vulnerable to  hackers. Internet Explorer 11 will be supported well into the future, as it is  capable of running legacy modes of the browser back to and including  IE5. The MS Edge browser and IE11 are of course both supported in Windows  10, and I suspect that this move is part of Microsoft's plan to migrate  existing MS O/S users to Windows 10. Thanks for the heads up, Barry.  Once again, Microsoft, literally, "takes the cake"! So much for MS May 2015 announcement:http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/microsoft-confirms-there-will-be-no-windows-11-1293309 I'm still being prompted to Install Windows 10, but do not want it.  I truly believe that having Win 10 "waiting" in my tray for me to "Install" is the cause of my puter overheating.  Luckily, I have "HP Cool Sense" turned "ON", but have lost work, due to the auto-shutdowns. Plus, the overheating weakened my laptop's hinge [right by the fan]. Looks like I'll be needing to buy another LT; all "thanks" go to Microsoft.       The overheating began after MS "auto-updated" KB3035583, which a bit later allowed for Win 10 to auto-download.  My puter can be quiet as a mouse, but when MS is pushing it's product on me, my LT roars.  My LT got so hot it nearly burned my skin.  I vacuumed and cleaned my fans, but that's NOT the problem.  I checked the "BIOS Drivers".  I'm up to date.  I'm convinced that the roaring/overheating/shutdowns are being caused by Microsoft wanting to force their Win 10 Install.  Looks like I best get moving fast, if I am going to be able to Disable Update KB3035583, however daunting the task is.  If "Support" and "Updates" end on 1/12/2016, I might not be able to do anything about the "auto-updates" already on here?   If I find that impossible, I'm guessing that to get Win 11, [surprised MS didn't just 'skip' to Win 1000, as they'd done w/ Win 9, LOL],  I will first must Upgrade from 8.1, [or, I might have 8.2?] to Win 10, and then to Win 11.    Just as, say, Win 7 users must first Upgrade to 8, and then, 8.1, plus have all of the "Service Packs" installed too, before they can even think of [maybe succeed?] installing Win 10.  Then, depending on "System Requirements", Win 11, and all for what?  "Support"?  More like, "Melting my LT down!"   The good news is that I use Chrome. If I'm to go into debt for a new puter, might as well get an Apple.  After all, "it's only money", or that's what these mega-corporations think!  We The People is a joke.  I'm age sixty-two, and will likely see the day come when only the very elite will have access to "The Net". What we know as the internet had begun as "a government weapon in the Cold War"; what's changed? http://www.history.com/topics/inventions/invention-of-the-internet   Microsoft [and ancestry.com's "Family Tree Maker"] sure "put on the kibosh".  Yet, why are we ever surprised?    Do try to stay "safe"!  Barry gave some other helpful ways to do that which I snipped, due to length].  Kathie Buchanan     

Oh, I have not doubt that it was something that Microsoft was doing to cause some of those programs to suddenly stop functioning properly, it didn't make sense that so many things were breaking down at the same time on a new computer. At first with FP, I thought it might be my ISP, and I do know that with it being such an older program that something might have been corrupted. I did find forums that said that some ISPs did have problems with FP, but the odd thing was that I couldn't even get Filezilla to work, which I had never used anyway since FP has always connected fine for my ftp uploads, but was prepared to use it to get my files online. So trying the Win 10 upgrade was my last try before I would move to a new website software. I honestly didn't think it would work, and I was afraid I would end up with no workable computer after seeing what a few naysayers had to say about the upgrade, but right now, I am totally satisfied, and it seems that my computer has even gotten faster than it has been in months. Deloris -----Original Message----- From: Billie Walsh via Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Internet Explorer - End of Support I don't know how many have read the EULA when installing Windows. If you haven't, you do not "own" the Windows operating system that is on your computer. Microsoft remains the "owner". You simply have a license to use it. I don't know if they would, or say they would, but it is possible that they could send down a "kill" signal that would completely shut down your Windows.I don't know if it's ever happened, or will happen. Just something to think about. On 01/09/2016 12:18 PM, Deloris Williams via wrote: > But I started noticing in the last > couple of months that some of programs were not functioning properly, I > use > the desktop version of Windows Live and it wasn't always opening, and my > good old FP 2003 was not connecting and often was forcibly being closed. I > have never had any problems with those before, not in all of the years > I've > used them, and my suspicion is that something being done in the Win 7 > updates, was causing it. -- Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry. -Wyatt Earp- _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My partner had to migrate to Windows 10 because he got a new computer. Lots of pro's and some pretty big con's. Pro's -- legacy programs installed like a charm. The thing I was worried about was installing Eudora, his one and only email program which had its final update in 2006. Works perfectly, I used the original install file which had probably been around since Windows 95 or Windows 2000. Con's -- The interface is a nightmare to anyone who isn't a computer geek -- even the alternate "classic" mode. The computer store pre-installed Libre Office, because he used Openoffice with his old computer. No problem reading his old files but changing them and saving them often results in the file being saved somewhere in Neverland and can only be found again with a file search. I understand that Windows 10 is more powerful and supports a trillion different devices, but why can't they leave the interface alone? Or at least have a "Windows XP' mode? I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. Charlie Dobie. At 11:21 AM 1/9/2016, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Here are my five cents worth of input. I switched to Windows 10 and am well >pleased with its performance. Guess I should say that I am a long time >Microsoft user. It is a personal preference. When I downloaded Windows 10 I >was a little concerned that some of my other old programs would not work >anymore. Well, great joy, I installed FrontPage 2003 and it still works as >good as it always did. I still use Family Tree maker 2006. It too works >well. I have a few other old programs installed and am using them without >any trouble. > >Like I said, it is a personal choice. > >Kind regards, > > >Heidi Boos-Utley >Email: [email protected] >URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: Billie Walsh via >Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 09:57 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Internet Explorer - End of Support > >According to Microsoft there will never be another "version" of Windows. >Ten will just get incremental updates from now on. > >Some people are still using, much to Microsoft's chagrin, Windows XP. >Just because support stops doesn't mean that the OS dies on the spot. > >As an alternative to Microsoft/Windows I often suggest Linux. I use >Kubuntu Linux. Any version of Linux with the KDE desktop is a good >choice for a Windows user. The user interface is very familiar to >ex-windows users. I have Mint Linux running on one little Asus EeePC. >Linux seems to support much older equipment than Windows. > >[Sidebar] > >I have to wonder about Microsoft giving away free Windows 10. Windows >has always been Microsoft's cash cow. Where does the revenue stream come >from after this. > >Linux is, and has always been, "free" but there's no big corporate >structure with dozens [ hundreds ] of paid employees that have to get a >paycheck. Each version is maintained by a group of individuals that >volunteer their expertise. > >On 01/09/2016 08:47 AM, Kabe via wrote: > > On Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:22 PM, Barry Carlson via > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > As of January 12, 2016, Microsoft will be ending support for Internet > > Explorer 8, 9, and 10. This means that those browsers will no longer > > receive security updates, which will make them more vulnerable to > > hackers. > > > > Internet Explorer 11 will be supported well into the future, as it is > > capable of running legacy modes of the browser back to and including > > IE5. > > > > The MS Edge browser and IE11 are of course both supported in Windows > > 10, and I suspect that this move is part of Microsoft's plan to migrate > > existing MS O/S users to Windows 10. > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up, Barry. Once again, Microsoft, literally, "takes > > the cake"! So much for MS May 2015 > > > announcement:http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/microsoft-confirms-there-will-be-no-windows-11-1293309 > > > > I'm still being prompted to Install Windows 10, but do not want it. > > I truly believe that having Win 10 "waiting" in my tray for me to > > "Install" is the cause of my puter overheating. Luckily, I have "HP Cool > > Sense" turned "ON", but have lost work, due to the auto-shutdowns. Plus, > > the overheating weakened my laptop's hinge [right by the fan]. Looks like > > I'll be needing to buy another LT; all "thanks" go to Microsoft. > > The overheating began after MS "auto-updated" KB3035583, which a bit > > later allowed for Win 10 to auto-download. My puter can be quiet as a > > mouse, but when MS is pushing it's product on me, my LT roars. My LT got > > so hot it nearly burned my skin. I vacuumed and cleaned my fans, but > > that's NOT the problem. I checked the "BIOS Drivers". I'm up to date. > > I'm convinced that the roaring/overheating/shutdowns are being caused by > > Microsoft wanting to force their Win 10 Install. > > Looks like I best get moving fast, if I am going to be able to Disable > > Update KB3035583, however daunting the task is. If "Support" and > > "Updates" end on 1/12/2016, I might not be able to do anything about the > > "auto-updates" already on here? If I find that impossible, I'm guessing > > that to get Win 11, [surprised MS didn't just 'skip' to Win 1000, as > > they'd done w/ Win 9, LOL], I will first must Upgrade from 8.1, [or, I > > might have 8.2?] to Win 10, and then to Win 11. > > Just as, say, Win 7 users must first Upgrade to 8, and then, 8.1, plus > > have all of the "Service Packs" installed too, before they can even think > > of [maybe succeed?] installing Win 10. Then, depending on "System > > Requirements", Win 11, and all for what? "Support"? More like, "Melting > > my LT down!" > > The good news is that I use Chrome. If I'm to go into debt for a new > > puter, might as well get an Apple. After all, "it's only money", or > > that's what these mega-corporations think! We The People is a joke. > > I'm age sixty-two, and will likely see the day come when only the very > > elite will have access to "The Net". What we know as the internet had > > begun as "a government weapon in the Cold War"; what's changed? > > http://www.history.com/topics/inventions/invention-of-the-internet > > Microsoft [and ancestry.com's "Family Tree Maker"] sure "put on the > > kibosh". Yet, why are we ever surprised? > > > > Do try to stay "safe"! Barry gave some other helpful ways to do that > > which I snipped, due to length]. > > Kathie Buchanan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. >You must learn to be slow in a hurry. >-Wyatt Earp- > >_ _... ..._ _ >_._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11363 - Release Date: 01/09/16 Charles Dobie, [email protected]

There's a program for Linux that allows a lot of Windows software to run with Linux called "Wine". Wine has a database of software that has been tested and found to work to one extent or another. If you don't find what you are looking for in the database it doesn't mean it won't work. It just may have never been tested. https://appdb.winehq.org/ I know at least one older version of Family Tree Maker works and I use PAF all the time. Paintshop Pro five and six also work just fine. Eudora shows up on the listing as one that works well. Brothers Keeper doesn't sjow up but it might work fine. It just may have never been tested, or works but wasn't reported. On 01/09/2016 01:00 PM, Charles Dobie via wrote: > I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as > Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me > that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. -- Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry. -Wyatt Earp- _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

I don't know how many have read the EULA when installing Windows. If you haven't, you do not "own" the Windows operating system that is on your computer. Microsoft remains the "owner". You simply have a license to use it. I don't know if they would, or say they would, but it is possible that they could send down a "kill" signal that would completely shut down your Windows.I don't know if it's ever happened, or will happen. Just something to think about. On 01/09/2016 12:18 PM, Deloris Williams via wrote: > But I started noticing in the last > couple of months that some of programs were not functioning properly, I use > the desktop version of Windows Live and it wasn't always opening, and my > good old FP 2003 was not connecting and often was forcibly being closed. I > have never had any problems with those before, not in all of the years I've > used them, and my suspicion is that something being done in the Win 7 > updates, was causing it. -- Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry. -Wyatt Earp- _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Thanks, Judy!  You've painstakingly gathered info & offered your experience with having BOTH Google and Free Find site search engines on your wonderful, massive & very useful site pages.  [I am looking at all of your new data!  Your site has proved very helpful for my lines in Washington Co, PA.  Thank you for that hard work too!]  Your comparisons of G & FF help, without any prejudice as to which is "better". This is very kind of you!   I might be chastised for what I am going to question in this thread rather the other, but I can take an unwarranted slam [just as you have].    I note the "limit of 5000" with FF.  Judy wrote: I would like to give the following comparisons of Freefind and Google Webmaster Tools:  I will try to match these point by point.  But I send separate emails for each one. Freefind (abbreviated here as FF) - FREE and paid versions. - Requires code for search box. - I believe the man who owns it is called Alan (?).  He is very nice to work with if you have a problem. - Has a user Account interface.  Allows user some controls. - Limited to 5,000 items (htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt) - But you can request higher amount for total "item" indexing; decided on a case by case basis. <Snipped> In the last few days, Vanessa had posted that she was having problems with seeing her FF on her site. [as per her recent thread: "Free Find has disappeared".  I'm CC'ing this to Vanessa in case she doesn't notice your post; doesn't miss your great info.] I checked Vanessa's site, and found her FF was working perfectly fine. I replied to Vanessa [off-list] about DNS errors and connectivity problems [concerned abt. being slammed for being "OT" here].  That said, beyond what seem Vanessa's probable connectivity/DNS problems, might Vanessa have reached this: "Limited to 5,000 items (htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt)" Could this "limit" cause Vanessa to not be able to see her Free Find, when others can?  [Again, barring other connectivity problems] Could reaching this "limit" cause a DNS Error?    Vanessa's site is massive; chock full of Currier & Ives images and "(htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt)" It wouldn't surprise that she has more than "5000 items".   Thanks again, for all of your help, both, with these comparisons of FF and Google search engines, and all of your many kind & helpful past posts; your "point" gets points from 'the novice', me!    Kathie Buchanan