Jennifer, I've had a look at your ONS Census1 page and the leftnav menu. I would suggest the easiest way to achieve what you want is to - (1) Remove the class="active" from the recordsmenu.txt file. (2) Insert in the head section of the census1/index.html file the following styles:- #leftnav li:nth-of-type(4) a {/* Census Records */ font-weight: bold; color: #B43030; background: transparent; text-decoration: none; pointer-events: none; cursor: default; } ... this is similar to the a.active style, but now it doesn't appear or act as a link. Or just remove it altogether using:- #leftnav li:nth-of-type(4) {/* Census Records */ display:none; } The li:nth-of-type(#) is the <li> number in the recordsmenu.txt SSI file. These styles work from IE9 and the other browsers from much earlier, but if you want to add an id to each the <li>'s, in the recordsmenu.txt file e.g. <li id="censusR"> then the above style selector #leftnav li:nth-of-type(4) can be replaced with #censusR etc.. Barry ----------------------- On 03/06/2016 08:36, Barry Carlson via wrote: > Jennifer, > > Rob has put you on the right track. > > In the example I made, the linked external CSS styles represent the > styles common to all your pages, and the embedded CSS is that of > individual active pages. In other words, the SSI included Menu file > doesn't have the page specific styles. They are the ones embedded on > each page, but the overall styles for the Menu can be included in > your > site's external CSS. > > I'll have a look at the specific pages you refer to, and when I get > some time I'll redo the example. > > Barry > > ----------------------- > > On 03/06/2016 06:49, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: >> If the "link1" item is styled in the included file, that rule will >> govern >> because the included file is loaded in the page's body section, >> after >> the >> active page's head. So the items' styling has to be left out of the >> included file and put into the active page file. >> >> ^^^^^ >> >> This is what I wasn't understanding!!! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for this! Between your last and rt's explanation and this, I'm sure I can muddle through! You all never disappoint, thank you so much for your awesome help and being so generous with it. Side note...Where I've decided to insert my breadcrumbs is playing wonky with some pages because of the size of the image that sits above. This has forced me to be a good girl and more uniformly insert the proper coding for these images..ie, size, etc lol. It so funny, whenever you try and get away with something lazy, something else happens to show you why its reeeeally best to do things properly from the beginning. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Barry Carlson via < [email protected]> wrote: > Jennifer, > > I've had a look at your ONS Census1 page and the leftnav menu. > > I would suggest the easiest way to achieve what you want is to - > > (1) Remove the class="active" from the recordsmenu.txt file. > > (2) Insert in the head section of the census1/index.html file the > following styles:- > > #leftnav li:nth-of-type(4) a {/* Census Records */ > font-weight: bold; > color: #B43030; > background: transparent; > text-decoration: none; > pointer-events: none; > cursor: default; > } > ... this is similar to the a.active style, but now it doesn't appear or > act as a link. > > Or just remove it altogether using:- > > #leftnav li:nth-of-type(4) {/* Census Records */ > display:none; > } > > The li:nth-of-type(#) is the <li> number in the recordsmenu.txt SSI > file. > > These styles work from IE9 and the other browsers from much earlier, > but if you want to add an id to each the <li>'s, in the recordsmenu.txt > file e.g. <li id="censusR"> then the above style selector #leftnav > li:nth-of-type(4) can be replaced with #censusR etc.. > > Barry > > ----------------------- > On 03/06/2016 08:36, Barry Carlson via wrote: > > Jennifer, > > > > Rob has put you on the right track. > > > > In the example I made, the linked external CSS styles represent the > > styles common to all your pages, and the embedded CSS is that of > > individual active pages. In other words, the SSI included Menu file > > doesn't have the page specific styles. They are the ones embedded on > > each page, but the overall styles for the Menu can be included in > > your > > site's external CSS. > > > > I'll have a look at the specific pages you refer to, and when I get > > some time I'll redo the example. > > > > Barry > > > > ----------------------- > > > > On 03/06/2016 06:49, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: > >> If the "link1" item is styled in the included file, that rule will > >> govern > >> because the included file is loaded in the page's body section, > >> after > >> the > >> active page's head. So the items' styling has to be left out of the > >> included file and put into the active page file. > >> > >> ^^^^^ > >> > >> This is what I wasn't understanding!!! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

Thank you very much for this! Ruth On 6/4/2016 3:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:11:00 -0400 > From: JFlorian<[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Font help page > To:"[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > This might help others: > > http://wavian.com/font-list.html >

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Jennifer, Rob has put you on the right track. In the example I made, the linked external CSS styles represent the styles common to all your pages, and the embedded CSS is that of individual active pages. In other words, the SSI included Menu file doesn't have the page specific styles. They are the ones embedded on each page, but the overall styles for the Menu can be included in your site's external CSS. I'll have a look at the specific pages you refer to, and when I get some time I'll redo the example. Barry ----------------------- On 03/06/2016 06:49, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: > If the "link1" item is styled in the included file, that rule will > govern > because the included file is loaded in the page's body section, after > the > active page's head. So the items' styling has to be left out of the > included file and put into the active page file. > > ^^^^^ > > This is what I wasn't understanding!!!

If I understand correctly, Jennifer wants a constant menu (SSI include) which changes appearance with pages. Specifically, she wants the link to the active page to change. This is doable. Pat offered good ideas and Barry suggested the coding. Maybe an overview would be helpful. Bear in mind that a SSI-included file can be a full HTML page, with head and body. If this menu file had classes or IDs for each link, they could be referenced by the active page. For example, the SSI file could contain: ... <.li class="link1"><.a href="xxx.htm">Link 1</a></li> <.li class=:link2"><.a href=xxy.htm">Link 2</a></li> ... Also bear in mind that, in case of conflict, CSS priority goes to the property stated nearest the styled element. If the "link1" item is styled in the included file, that rule will govern because the included file is loaded in the page's body section, after the active page's head. So the items' styling has to be left out of the included file and put into the active page file. The head section for the active page should contain the styling for the menu items. -rt_/)

Looks like the top of the last email didn't go. Here it is again. Jennifer, An example Woodard page is at:- http://countjustonce.com/test/jenny-mck.html ... and the CSS is at:- http://countjustonce.com/test/jenny-mck.html The CSS for the Woodard active page is embedded in the styles Notes: (1) The link to the active page is disabled using "pointer-events:none" (2) The link cursor changes to the default pointer if the active page link is hovered. (3) CSS is also used to set the #layoutdims using the :after {content:"name";} (4) How you highlight the active page in #header is up to you; I've just used a reddish background-color. (5) The active class is not needed, as the links to each page are selected using - #header li:nth-of-type(#) a {css:value} Hope that helps; ask if in doubt. Barry ----------------------------- On 02/06/2016 11:00, Jennifer McKemie wrote: Yep! I just don't understand how to do the styles. If I add something to the external style sheet, if I add a style somehow where it adds the include, or if I add styles like I do a non-external style sheet and they cover the thing. I mean, literally where do I add the active/current designation?

Notes: (1) The link to the active page is disabled using "pointer-events:none" (2) The link cursor changes to the default pointer if the active page link is hovered. (3) CSS is also used to set the #layoutdims using the :after {content:"name";} (4) How you highlight the active page in #header is up to you; I've just used a reddish background-color. (5) The active class is not needed, as the links to each page are selected using - #header li:nth-of-type(#) a {css:value} Hope that helps; ask if in doubt. Barry ----------------------------- On 02/06/2016 11:00, Jennifer McKemie wrote: Yep! I just don't understand how to do the styles. If I add something to the external style sheet, if I add a style somehow where it adds the include, or if I add styles like I do a non-external style sheet and they cover the thing. I mean, literally where do I add the active/current designation?

If the "link1" item is styled in the included file, that rule will govern because the included file is loaded in the page's body section, after the active page's head. So the items' styling has to be left out of the included file and put into the active page file. ^^^^^ This is what I wasn't understanding!!! Thank you, guys! This is entirely a matter of my not retaining the knowledge of HTML/CSS and all the bits in between. I learn enough to get by the moment I'm working on something, use it as is for 6-12 month, then come back to revamp, update, etc, and anything I learned has faded from memory. I SO appreciate the effort you each put into getting it into my thick skull!! Jen On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:10 PM, rt-sails via <[email protected]> wrote: > If I understand correctly, Jennifer wants a constant menu (SSI include) > which changes appearance with pages. Specifically, she wants the link to > the active page to change. This is doable. > > Pat offered good ideas and Barry suggested the coding. Maybe an overview > would be helpful. > > Bear in mind that a SSI-included file can be a full HTML page, with head > and body. If this menu file had classes or IDs for each link, they could be > referenced by the active page. For example, the SSI file could contain: > ... > <.li class="link1"><.a href="xxx.htm">Link 1</a></li> > <.li class=:link2"><.a href=xxy.htm">Link 2</a></li> ... > Also bear in mind that, in case of conflict, CSS priority goes to the > property stated nearest the styled element. > If the "link1" item is styled in the included file, that rule will govern > because the included file is loaded in the page's body section, after the > active page's head. So the items' styling has to be left out of the > included file and put into the active page file. > > The head section for the active page should contain the styling for the > menu items. > -rt_/) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

Thank you, Barry! Question, though...and forgive me if I sound completely like an idiot...but is this not a redo of the one I have already on that page? I have a way of differentiiating/showing the active page that's working there...the one I am struggling with is the Mck pages, the ones that I use <.!--#include virtual="recordsmenu.txt" --> in which to show the menu - an example: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/onenamestudy/records1/census1/index.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/onenamestudy/records1/census1/index.html> the menu that renders on the left side, that's the one I want to distiguish..I want to be able to show the user they are in the Bible section, versus the land section versus the will section, etc. Currently, the menu is rendered by the include and so I can't write the "action" part like I have done with the tabbed menu (<.li><.a href=" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/ANDERSON/index.html" alt="Anderson Family" title="Anderson Family" class="active">Anderson <.span>Family<./span><./a><./li>) That menu is on this page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/ANDERSON/index.html Or am I totally missing the point of what you've done? Jen On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Barry Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > Looks like the top of the last email didn't go. Here it is again. > > Jennifer, > > An example Woodard page is at:- > > http://countjustonce.com/test/jenny-mck.html > > ... and the CSS is at:- > > http://countjustonce.com/test/jenny-mck.html > > The CSS for the Woodard active page is embedded in the <head> styles > > Notes: > > (1) The link to the active page is disabled using > "pointer-events:none" > > (2) The link cursor changes to the default > pointer if the active page link is hovered. > > (3) CSS is also used to > set the #layoutdims using the :after {content:"name";} > > (4) How you highlight the active page in #header is up to you; > I've just used a reddish background-color. > > (5) The active class is not needed, as the > links to each page are selected using - > > #header li:nth-of-type(#) a > {css:value} > > Hope that helps; ask if in doubt. > > Barry > > > ----------------------------- > > On 02/06/2016 11:00, Jennifer McKemie > wrote: > Yep! I just don't understand how to do the styles. If I add > something to the external style sheet, if I add a style somehow where it > adds the include, or if I add styles like I do a non-external style > sheet and they cover the thing. > I mean, literally where do I add the > active/current designation? > > > > > -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

Jennifer, You want to be able to "highlight" the appropriate part of the menu to match the page that is currently active? Right? The menu is a SSI file, and the easiest way to make the appropriate change to the menu is to use embedded styles in the head of the active page to do just that. Am I on the right track? Barry ------------------------------- On 01/06/2016 21:09, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: > ohhh, I can do that! > > This is the sort of page I want to change: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/onenamestudy/records1/index.html > I would like to visually change the appearance of the active page > choice in > the menu along the left (starts with Bible and ends with Wills). > > The example I'm using is the tabbed menu along the top of this page: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/index.html > > My goal is not to duplicate, just to do something, probably just a > shading > or color change, undecided as of yet, for the link to show it is the > "active" page the user is on. >

Yep! I just don't understand how to do the styles. If I add something to the external style sheet, if I add a style somehow where it adds the include, or if I add styles like I do a non-external style sheet and they cover the thing. I mean, literally where do I add the active/current designation? On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Barry Carlson via < [email protected]> wrote: > Jennifer, > > You want to be able to "highlight" the appropriate part of the menu to > match the page that is currently active? Right? > > The menu is a SSI file, and the easiest way to make the appropriate > change to the menu is to use embedded styles in the head of the active > page to do just that. > > Am I on the right track? > > Barry > > ------------------------------- > > On 01/06/2016 21:09, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: > > ohhh, I can do that! > > > > This is the sort of page I want to change: > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/onenamestudy/records1/index.html > > I would like to visually change the appearance of the active page > > choice in > > the menu along the left (starts with Bible and ends with Wills). > > > > The example I'm using is the tabbed menu along the top of this page: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/index.html > > > > My goal is not to duplicate, just to do something, probably just a > > shading > > or color change, undecided as of yet, for the link to show it is the > > "active" page the user is on. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

Does any one have a good suggestion for a sitemap.xml or .txt (that’s easily done!)? I don’t mind paying out some money. My site has around 2000 pages. But I’ve found some rather mickey-mouse outfits online in the .xml game. I’m quite happy to do .txt if I can find an easy way to transfer from a legacy.com file. I gave up copying/pasting after 1300 URL’s. My site is here if that’s any help http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~parrottandbell/ Thanks Bryan New Zealand

ohhh, I can do that! This is the sort of page I want to change: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/onenamestudy/records1/index.html I would like to visually change the appearance of the active page choice in the menu along the left (starts with Bible and ends with Wills). The example I'm using is the tabbed menu along the top of this page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/index.html My goal is not to duplicate, just to do something, probably just a shading or color change, undecided as of yet, for the link to show it is the "active" page the user is on. Other info, in case its important. The example site does not use an external style sheet, but I do use one for the McK site. What you wrote, Pat, is where I'm unclear. So, even though I can't see what is being brought in by the include (in this case, the side menu) I can still assign it styles? But how do I say which one? I'm probably not explaining this at all well, and it would be so much better if I understood the proper terminology. Thanks for trying to struggle through this with me. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > The terminology is not the problem. We need to see an example (the page > URL(s) to fully understand. > > However, class="active" would be a CSS command in the HTML. Do you use an > external style sheet for your site? If so, you could create "class" > variations, e.g. > active1, active2, etc. > or active-recs1 etc, then > active-recs1a, active-recs2b etc. > > Really need to see those URLS :) > > Pat > > > > > At 01:54 PM 6/1/2016, Jennifer McKemie wrote: > >> I'm not going to use the right terminology, so please forgive me. But >> yes, I am currently using the following: >> >> <.!--#include virtual="recordsmenu.txt" --> >> >> and in another area (one area is my one name study, the other is everyone >> else in my genealogy) I have a menu with  class="active" indicators >> (changes the appearance of the tab). I'd like to change the appearance of >> the records menu relative to what page the user is on. But for the pages I >> am currently using the "active" bit, I have to change it on each one - not >> really a big deal, as less than a dozen pages. The pages covered by the >> records menu, however, number much higher than 12 (which I guess is why the >> includes menus to start with)... >> >> Is there a way to change them without revamping such that the menu is >> written on each page? >> >> Its a stylistic thing, so not gonna kill me, and I'm working on >> incorporating a breadcrumbs feature now which kinda makes it a redundancy, >> but for learning purposes, still would like to know :) >> >> Thanks! >> Jen >> > > -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

The terminology is not the problem. We need to see an example (the page URL(s) to fully understand. However, class="active" would be a CSS command in the HTML. Do you use an external style sheet for your site? If so, you could create "class" variations, e.g. active1, active2, etc. or active-recs1 etc, then active-recs1a, active-recs2b etc. Really need to see those URLS :) Pat At 01:54 PM 6/1/2016, Jennifer McKemie wrote: >I'm not going to use the right terminology, so >please forgive me. But yes, I am currently using the following: > ><.!--#include virtual="recordsmenu.txt" --> > >and in another area (one area is my one name >study, the other is everyone else in my >genealogy) I have a menu with  class="active" >indicators (changes the appearance of the tab). >I'd like to change the appearance of the records >menu relative to what page the user is on. But >for the pages I am currently using the "active" >bit, I have to change it on each one - not >really a big deal, as less than a dozen pages. >The pages covered by the records menu, however, >number much higher than 12 (which I guess is why >the includes menus to start with)... > >Is there a way to change them without revamping >such that the menu is written on each page? > >Its a stylistic thing, so not gonna kill me, and >I'm working on incorporating a breadcrumbs >feature now which kinda makes it a redundancy, >but for learning purposes, still would like to know :) > >Thanks! >Jen

I'm not going to use the right terminology, so please forgive me. But yes, I am currently using the following: <.!--#include virtual="recordsmenu.txt" --> and in another area (one area is my one name study, the other is everyone else in my genealogy) I have a menu with class="active" indicators (changes the appearance of the tab). I'd like to change the appearance of the records menu relative to what page the user is on. But for the pages I am currently using the "active" bit, I have to change it on each one - not really a big deal, as less than a dozen pages. The pages covered by the records menu, however, number much higher than 12 (which I guess is why the includes menus to start with)... Is there a way to change them without revamping such that the menu is written on each page? Its a stylistic thing, so not gonna kill me, and I'm working on incorporating a breadcrumbs feature now which kinda makes it a redundancy, but for learning purposes, still would like to know :) Thanks! Jen On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > Not sure what you mean by "active" bit. > > The Freepages and RootsWeb servers support the #echo, #include, and > #config commands. > > For instructions, see < > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~elsi/SSI.html> > > > Pat A. > > > At 01:16 PM 6/1/2016, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: > >> Hi gang, >> >> Another novice question. I've used includes for menus over numerous pages. >> But now I'm drawing a blank on formatting these. I would like to add the >> "active" bit to these, but how would I do this? Seems like it wouldn't be >> possible? >> >> BTW, I was one of those bad people who did way too much in the file >> manager >> and didn't back things up as often or well as I should have and lost tons >> of things with the issues last fall/winter. I'm now happily using Brackets >> all the time and backing up locally and to the cloud. Thanks for all the >> help in getting that sorted! >> >> Jen >> >> PS. is there a Facebook equivalent to this group? >> >> >> -- >> Jennifer McKemie >> www.mckemie.org >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

Not sure what you mean by "active" bit. The Freepages and RootsWeb servers support the #echo, #include, and #config commands. For instructions, see <http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~elsi/SSI.html> Pat A. At 01:16 PM 6/1/2016, Jennifer McKemie via wrote: >Hi gang, > >Another novice question. I've used includes for menus over numerous pages. >But now I'm drawing a blank on formatting these. I would like to add the >"active" bit to these, but how would I do this? Seems like it wouldn't be >possible? > >BTW, I was one of those bad people who did way too much in the file manager >and didn't back things up as often or well as I should have and lost tons >of things with the issues last fall/winter. I'm now happily using Brackets >all the time and backing up locally and to the cloud. Thanks for all the >help in getting that sorted! > >Jen > >PS. is there a Facebook equivalent to this group? > > >-- >Jennifer McKemie >www.mckemie.org > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi gang, Another novice question. I've used includes for menus over numerous pages. But now I'm drawing a blank on formatting these. I would like to add the "active" bit to these, but how would I do this? Seems like it wouldn't be possible? BTW, I was one of those bad people who did way too much in the file manager and didn't back things up as often or well as I should have and lost tons of things with the issues last fall/winter. I'm now happily using Brackets all the time and backing up locally and to the cloud. Thanks for all the help in getting that sorted! Jen PS. is there a Facebook equivalent to this group? -- Jennifer McKemie www.mckemie.org

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