Hi Vanessa, Have you been to the Pennsylvania Grand Commandery website. If not you will find it here: http://pagrandcommandery.org/ Lancaster Commandery No. 13 appears in the list of Commanderies. You can use their contact page to ask if they hold any information. Good luck, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa" <vanessaea@comcast.net> To: <freemasons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:12 PM Subject: [FREEMASONS] Lancaster Commandery No. 13 > Hello, > > I am completely new to fraternal orders. My g-g-great grandfather Jacob > Rothermel belonged to Lancaster Commandery No. 13. I know this from a > masonic jewel I have. It looks like this commandery is no longer in > existence. How do I find out more about it and his role in it? > > Vanessaea@comcast.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am completely new to fraternal orders. My g-g-great grandfather Jacob Rothermel belonged to Lancaster Commandery No. 13. I know this from a masonic jewel I have. It looks like this commandery is no longer in existence. How do I find out more about it and his role in it? Vanessaea@comcast.net

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Hi Stasha He lived in Halifax area in England, in 1913 him his wife and children emigrated to Philladelphia and then later to Weymouth MA. The thing is tho Stasha this may not be that relative I thought it was, there are disputes over whether it is him or brother or son. Either way the areas they all lived and moved to are the same, so it should be 1 of those 3 areas. You are doing great so far. I would just love it though if I could find a photo which was an exact match. I wish there was some program I could enter it into, it scan it and tell me :) I look forward to hearing from you Regards Louise Wortley Sent from my iPhone On 15 Jul 2011, at 08:01, freemasons-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Rootsweb Freemasons reply, assistance needed identifying > the following cross (Stasha Colin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:35:23 -0700 > From: Stasha Colin <stashacolin@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FREEMASONS] Rootsweb Freemasons reply, assistance needed > identifying the following cross > To: freemasons@rootsweb.com, FREEMASONS-D-request@rootsweb.com, > FREEMASONS-L-request@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAPMSy8AjzVCbdwkx+gtMsvJfS+G_P1rqpQOwz5LsJHUqBNaM5Q@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > by George i think I've got it! > > I believe its the Scottish Rite 30th degree pendant and sash if its a double > headed eagle in the center > > Called the Knight Kadosh. > > here's the wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Kadosh > > also, where was he living at the time of this photo? I can be of more help > if I know the area. > > glad i could help! > > -- > *Stasha Colin > Cell: (323)286-7429 > stashacolin@gmail.com* > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEMASONS list administrator, send an email to > FREEMASONS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEMASONS mailing list, send an email to FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEMASONS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5 > ****************************************

by George i think I've got it! I believe its the Scottish Rite 30th degree pendant and sash if its a double headed eagle in the center Called the Knight Kadosh. here's the wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Kadosh also, where was he living at the time of this photo? I can be of more help if I know the area. glad i could help! -- *Stasha Colin Cell: (323)286-7429 stashacolin@gmail.com*

got all the updated photos u sent, thanks!. still searching, but its almost impossible to make out what is on the front. until i know if its an owl or a man or a being?... im stumped!! without that specific i will be on a wild goose chase as relics often mimic each other throughout time. its that "face?" that makes it 100% special! the rest of the necklace has common traditional characteristics so the rest would be easy to trace if we knew what it was. but i wont give up trying! can anyone else make out what is adorned to the front of it? On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:01 AM, <freemasons-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FREEMASONS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 (Stasha Colin) > 2. Re: Assistance required please. (Michael T. McKenzie) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:22:28 -0700 > From: Stasha Colin <stashacolin@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FREEMASONS] FREEMASONS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > To: freemasons@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAPMSy8BLD-gzeksoy1jqQ78EhtnSGtua40X2oq+R-ujTnhacLA@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I would be happy to help. Im actually an expert in vintage relics. > but i do not see a pic attached? feel free to email it to me directly! > stashacolin@gmail.com > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:01 AM, <freemasons-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Assistance required please. (Louise Wortley) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:38:58 +0100 > > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > > Subject: [FREEMASONS] Assistance required please. > > To: FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <3CD47740-4506-4042-95C8-088989BAF455@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hello, > > > > I was hoping that I may find some assistance in the identification of the > > cross that my ancestor wears in the attached photo. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Louise > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the FREEMASONS list administrator, send an email to > > FREEMASONS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the FREEMASONS mailing list, send an email to > > FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of FREEMASONS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > > **************************************** > > > > > > -- > *Stasha Colin > Cell: (323)286-7429 > stashacolin@gmail.com* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:56:13 -0400 > From: "Michael T. McKenzie" <merhlyn@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FREEMASONS] Assistance required please. > To: <freemasons@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00a001cc40bc$ff51ec10$fdf5c430$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sorry to say I did not get the file. Are you able to resend. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: freemasons-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freemasons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louise Wortley > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:39 PM > To: FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FREEMASONS] Assistance required please. > > Hello, > > I was hoping that I may find some assistance in the identification of the > cross that my ancestor wears in the attached photo. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Kind Regards > > Louise > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEMASONS list administrator, send an email to > FREEMASONS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEMASONS mailing list, send an email to > FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEMASONS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3 > **************************************** > -- *Stasha Colin Cell: (323)286-7429 stashacolin@gmail.com*

Sorry to say I did not get the file. Are you able to resend. Michael -----Original Message----- From: freemasons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freemasons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louise Wortley Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:39 PM To: FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FREEMASONS] Assistance required please. Hello, I was hoping that I may find some assistance in the identification of the cross that my ancestor wears in the attached photo. Any help would be appreciated. Kind Regards Louise ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would be happy to help. Im actually an expert in vintage relics. but i do not see a pic attached? feel free to email it to me directly! stashacolin@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:01 AM, <freemasons-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Assistance required please. (Louise Wortley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:38:58 +0100 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: [FREEMASONS] Assistance required please. > To: FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3CD47740-4506-4042-95C8-088989BAF455@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, > > I was hoping that I may find some assistance in the identification of the > cross that my ancestor wears in the attached photo. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Kind Regards > > Louise > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEMASONS list administrator, send an email to > FREEMASONS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEMASONS mailing list, send an email to > FREEMASONS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEMASONS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > **************************************** > -- *Stasha Colin Cell: (323)286-7429 stashacolin@gmail.com*

Hello, I was hoping that I may find some assistance in the identification of the cross that my ancestor wears in the attached photo. Any help would be appreciated. Kind Regards Louise

In a message dated 2/9/2011 3:29:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, daniel.katz@att.net writes: Kelly: Contact the Grand Lodge of MS. give them the name etc., hopefully they have records that go back that far ,if they have the records from that time you will know where he was born and where he came from. Good luck Dan Katz --- On Wed, 2/9/11, SteadeC@aol.com <SteadeC@aol.com> wrote: From: SteadeC@aol.com <SteadeC@aol.com> Subject: Re: [FREEMASONS] Samuel F. WALL: Freemason, Willis #92, Charted in White Oak, ... To: freemasons@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 2:18 PM In a message dated 2/9/2011 12:03:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, kelly_graham77373@yahoo.com writes: Hello, all .. In trying to trace a paternal-line, I have found a grt-grt-grt-grandfather, Samuel "P." WALL, in the 1850-Census of Smith County, MS., a 39-yo "Brickmaker" from Pennsylvania. Then, in a history of Smith County, MS., I find a "Samuel F. WALL", listed as a Freemason at Willis Hall No. 92, Chartered 21 Feb. 1848 in White Oak, MS. Having read your online-pages, I realize the Freemasons aren't ones to hold genealogical records. HOWEVER! Would the Freemason records in Mississippi be able to tell me, at the least, where a particular mason came from before (or at the time) he became a Mason? At the most, could I find out where a Mason was born? As an aside, the 1840s and 1850 were, I think, the starting years of the greatest-division in American history, the one before the Civil War. How were the Masons able to help someone like my ggg-grandfather (if he WAS the Mason I found) acclimate from Pennsylvania to Missidippi? Thank you for your time and any help given :) Kelly Paul Graham Houston, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hello, >From what I have learned, Masons or Freemasons were a close knit fraternal order, which provided support to its members, contacts, a network of fellow members who could be of assistance to help a new comer more quickly integrate into a the local business community. The Masons also provided some financial assistance members' widows and their family, as needed, and would also bury their member, sometimes in a Masonic Cemetery. In other words, Masonic membership was somewhat akin to being on Facebook. Regards, Steade ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message PS: You are correct that 1840s and 1850s were very difficult years in the US as our country moved towards the outbreak of Civil War. It was also a period of great growth and expansion in industry and commerce. Mississippi was one of the states that had an expanding economy prior to the Civil War. Steade

In a message dated 2/9/2011 12:03:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, kelly_graham77373@yahoo.com writes: Hello, all .. In trying to trace a paternal-line, I have found a grt-grt-grt-grandfather, Samuel "P." WALL, in the 1850-Census of Smith County, MS., a 39-yo "Brickmaker" from Pennsylvania. Then, in a history of Smith County, MS., I find a "Samuel F. WALL", listed as a Freemason at Willis Hall No. 92, Chartered 21 Feb. 1848 in White Oak, MS. Having read your online-pages, I realize the Freemasons aren't ones to hold genealogical records. HOWEVER! Would the Freemason records in Mississippi be able to tell me, at the least, where a particular mason came from before (or at the time) he became a Mason? At the most, could I find out where a Mason was born? As an aside, the 1840s and 1850 were, I think, the starting years of the greatest-division in American history, the one before the Civil War. How were the Masons able to help someone like my ggg-grandfather (if he WAS the Mason I found) acclimate from Pennsylvania to Missidippi? Thank you for your time and any help given :) Kelly Paul Graham Houston, Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hello, >From what I have learned, Masons or Freemasons were a close knit fraternal order, which provided support to its members, contacts, a network of fellow members who could be of assistance to help a new comer more quickly integrate into a the local business community. The Masons also provided some financial assistance members' widows and their family, as needed, and would also bury their member, sometimes in a Masonic Cemetery. In other words, Masonic membership was somewhat akin to being on Facebook. Regards, Steade

Kelly: Contact the Grand Lodge of MS. give them the name etc., hopefully they have records that go back that far ,if they have the records from that time you will know where he was born and where he came from.  Good luck Dan Katz --- On Wed, 2/9/11, SteadeC@aol.com <SteadeC@aol.com> wrote: From: SteadeC@aol.com <SteadeC@aol.com> Subject: Re: [FREEMASONS] Samuel F. WALL: Freemason, Willis #92, Charted in White Oak, ... To: freemasons@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 2:18 PM In a message dated 2/9/2011 12:03:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  kelly_graham77373@yahoo.com writes: Hello, all .. In trying to trace a paternal-line, I have  found a grt-grt-grt-grandfather, Samuel "P." WALL, in the 1850-Census of  Smith County, MS., a 39-yo "Brickmaker" from Pennsylvania. Then, in a history  of Smith County, MS., I find a "Samuel F. WALL", listed as a Freemason at  Willis Hall No. 92, Chartered 21 Feb. 1848 in White Oak, MS. Having  read your online-pages, I realize the Freemasons aren't ones to hold  genealogical records. HOWEVER! Would the Freemason records in Mississippi be  able to tell me, at the least, where a particular mason came from before (or  at the time) he became a Mason? At the most, could I find out where a Mason  was born? As an aside, the 1840s and 1850 were, I think, the starting  years of the greatest-division in American history, the one before the Civil  War. How were the Masons able to help someone like my ggg-grandfather (if he  WAS the Mason I found) acclimate from Pennsylvania to Missidippi? Thank  you for your time and any help given :) Kelly Paul Graham Houston,  Texas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message Hello, >From what I have learned, Masons or Freemasons were a close  knit fraternal order, which provided support to its members,  contacts, a network of fellow members who could be of assistance to help a  new comer more quickly integrate into a the local business community.  The  Masons also provided some financial assistance members' widows and their  family, as needed, and would also bury their member, sometimes in a Masonic  Cemetery. In other words, Masonic membership was somewhat akin to being on  Facebook. Regards, Steade ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, all .. In trying to trace a paternal-line, I have found a grt-grt-grt-grandfather, Samuel "P." WALL, in the 1850-Census of Smith County, MS., a 39-yo "Brickmaker" from Pennsylvania. Then, in a history of Smith County, MS., I find a "Samuel F. WALL", listed as a Freemason at Willis Hall No. 92, Chartered 21 Feb. 1848 in White Oak, MS. Having read your online-pages, I realize the Freemasons aren't ones to hold genealogical records. HOWEVER! Would the Freemason records in Mississippi be able to tell me, at the least, where a particular mason came from before (or at the time) he became a Mason? At the most, could I find out where a Mason was born? As an aside, the 1840s and 1850 were, I think, the starting years of the greatest-division in American history, the one before the Civil War. How were the Masons able to help someone like my ggg-grandfather (if he WAS the Mason I found) acclimate from Pennsylvania to Missidippi? Thank you for your time and any help given :) Kelly Paul Graham Houston, Texas

Ruth, You might start with the following: http://67.21.204.162/MasonicLibrary/Portal.aspx This should give you access to the Library / Museum of the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania where you can search or contact someone a little closer to the records than we are. They may be short staffed until after the first of the year with people taking vacations (holidays) now. You would need to know the specific lodge in Philadelphia to contact them directly. There are about thirty lodges listed on the lodge locator. Lodges also may have sent their archives to the Grand Lodge Library for safe keeping and also records may have been lost if one lodge merged with another or due to fire and other natural disasters. Good luck in you searching and Happy Holidays to you and yours, hope you're not buried in the snow. Fred Frederick M. Dittmar, 33rd Secretary Emeritus - KSA Guthrie Knights of St. Andrew Guthrie, Oklahoma PO Box 2601 Norman, Oklahoma 73070 KSAofGuthrieOK@dittmar.net<mailto:KSAofGuthrieOK@dittmar.net> Frederick M. Dittmar Diggin' Deep Genealogy Research Service PO Box 2601 Norman, Oklahoma 73070

Can SKS advise whether there are records of Freemasons in Philadelphia towards the end of the 18th century, and how they may be accessed from the UK. Merry Christmas everyone Ruth

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Thank you Fred for replying. I will write a letter, send a donation for their time, and a SASE. Thank you for the advice. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Dittmar, Frederick M. <dittmar_ksa@ou.edu> To: freemasons@rootsweb.com <freemasons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 6:42 pm Subject: [FREEMASONS] FW: Chattanooga, TN: Freemason & OES Records llen, I would start with a letter addressed to the Masonic Lodge in the town hat your grandparents lived in during the 1920s and 30s. Google = asonic Lodge xyz town, Tenn., for an address. You might try this address: http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Organizations/Fraternal/Freemasonry/Craft_Masonry/Grand_Lodge_of_Tennessee/ If you can't find the town here try writing the Grand Secretary to see if he has n address or can search you grand fathers name in his files. Request Lodge name nd if he has a list of any Officer he was during his membership and dates of embership. He will not have any genealogical information other than your randfather's name / age / address(s) / dates of lodge membership and if he held n office. A small donation for his time is suggested. http://www.grandlodge-tn.org/ letter is better than the e-mail and a SASE helps move things along. Here is and address to search for Eastern Star Chapters: ttp://www.tngrandoes.org/index.php?chapters=Y ood luck Fred ---------------------------- >>Where would I be able to obtain information on my grandparents membership? oth were active in OES and my grandfather was a Freemason (as was my father). I ould like to know more about what "positions" they held and so forth. >>My grandfather died young in 1934 (TB) whereas my grandmother lived until 992, though she became inactive after relocating away from Chattanooga. hank you. llen Martn ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Ellen, I would start with a letter addressed to the Masonic Lodge in the town that your grandparents lived in during the 1920s and 30s. Google = Masonic Lodge xyz town, Tenn., for an address. You might try this address: http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Organizations/Fraternal/Freemasonry/Craft_Masonry/Grand_Lodge_of_Tennessee/ If you can't find the town here try writing the Grand Secretary to see if he has an address or can search you grand fathers name in his files. Request Lodge name and if he has a list of any Officer he was during his membership and dates of membership. He will not have any genealogical information other than your grandfather's name / age / address(s) / dates of lodge membership and if he held an office. A small donation for his time is suggested. http://www.grandlodge-tn.org/ A letter is better than the e-mail and a SASE helps move things along. Here is and address to search for Eastern Star Chapters: http://www.tngrandoes.org/index.php?chapters=Y Good luck Fred ----------------------------- >>Where would I be able to obtain information on my grandparents membership? Both were active in OES and my grandfather was a Freemason (as was my father). I would like to know more about what "positions" they held and so forth. >>My grandfather died young in 1934 (TB) whereas my grandmother lived until 1992, though she became inactive after relocating away from Chattanooga. Thank you. Ellen Martn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEMASONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message