>It's not good enough for it to be left up in the air by asking volunteers to ask their Co-ordinator. Really! I have found that after new transcribers give a cursory glance at instructions on FreeBMD, they turn to their coordinators for instruction on practically everything, even including configuring their computers and more personal, human subjects. How arrogant of me to think that I could advise my transcribers! Perhaps, following the current trend towards automation at FreeBMD, we could just get rid of the human element entirely and have a program automatically assign scans and let the transcribers get along as best they can with the "Transcribers Database"? Steve Gaunt Croscan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Raymond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: Re: +PAGE's for double page scans > I'll wait until the debate finishes between Co-ordinators on the use of one > or two files per double page scan and reword my original suggestion to cover > both scenario. > > My man concern was to get volunteers to include the correct +PAGE where the > two pages are in the one file. > > It's not good enough for it to be left up in the air by asking volunteers to > ask their Co-ordinator. > > Suitable words can be devised to cover both situations. > > Allan Raymond > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Gaunt <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 11 July 2004 07:35 > Subject: Re: +PAGE's for double page scans > > > >If syndicates deal with the transcription of double page scans in different > >ways as now seems to be the case, the main difference being a one file or a > >two file transcription, then the only thing that can be put in the "Hints > >and > > Help Guide" or "Transcriber's Knowledge Base" is the following: > >Q. What is the process for transcribing a double page scan (i.e. two > index > >pages to a scan) > >A. Ask your syndicate coordinator. > > > >Steve Gaunt > >Croscan > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Allan Raymond" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 3:47 PM > >Subject: +PAGE's for double page scans > > > > > >> To Co-ordinators > >> > >> I thought I would run this past you before I arrange for either "Hints > and > >> Help Guide" or "Transcriber's Knowledge Base" to be changed, comments or > >> suggested improvements to the wording is appreciated? > >> > >> The query revolves around double page scans (i.e. two Index pages to a > >> scan). I've just noticed that some volunteers are not inserting a +PAGE > to > >> separate the two pages within the transcription. > >> > >> If the decision is taken to go down "Transcriber's Knowledge Base" route, > >> I'm proposng the following addional Q & A. > >> > >> Q. What is the process for transcribing a double page scan (i.e. two > >index > >> pages to a scan) > >> > >> A. You transcribe the scan as one file and name the file exactly as if > >was > >> a one page scan. > >> > >> For example, the double page scan 1874b4-520 would have a file name > >> 1874B4W0520. > >> > >> You also need to add three +PAGEs, one at the start of the entries, one > at > >> the end of the entries and a further one in the middle of the entries to > >> denote the end of the first index page and the start of the second. > >> > >> For example, the file for the double page scan 1874b4-520 would contain > >the > >> following +PAGEs > >> > >> +PAGE,0520 > >> WAKEFIELD,Henry John,Coventry,6d,516 > >> other entries on first page down to > >> WALGROVE,John William,"Bradford, Y",9b,258 > >> +PAGE,0521 > >> WALKER,Charles,W. Bromwich,6b,849 > >> other entries on second page down to > >> WALKER,Martha Ann,Medway,2a,493 > >> +PAGE,0522 > >> > >> Allan Raymond > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I th > >> Sorry for the delay. > >> > > >> > You upload as one file with the appropriate +PAGE, to separate the > >actual > >> > two pages of the Index. > >> > > >> > Thus, if you were transcribing a double page scan such as > >1871B4-342.tiff. > >> > > >> > File name would be similar to 1871B40342. > >> > > >> > The file +PAGE's would be: > >> > > >> > +PAGE,0342 > >> > Owens,John etc > >> > ... (other page 342 entries) > >> > Page,Herbert Frank etc > >> > +PAGE,0343 > >> > Page,Horace Archibald etc > >> > ... (other page 113 entries) > >> > Palmer,Emma etc > >> > +PAGE,0344 > >> > > >> > To add to the confusion the two page scan which I choose at random also > >> has > >> > Surnames "Page". > >> > > >> > How does my suggestion sound to you? > >> > > >> > To my recollection, we haven't given any advice on how to deal with two > >> page > >> > scans. I'll see of I can put some words together within the next day or > >so > >> > Co-ordinators can thrash out by best approach. > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > >> Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > >> Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > >> > >> ============================== > >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Quoting Steve Gaunt <[email protected]>: > >It's not good enough for it to be left up in the air by asking volunteers > to > ask their Co-ordinator. > Really! I have found that after new transcribers give a cursory glance at > instructions on FreeBMD, they turn to their coordinators for instruction on > practically everything, even including configuring their computers and more > personal, human subjects. How arrogant of me to think that I could advise my > transcribers! Good lord, is it really the time of year for a mountain to be made out of a molehill already. I didn't see anything in what Allan wrote that suggested that there was anything wrong whatsoever with transcribers talking to their co-ord to ask for help and co-ords giving such advice. Indeed, I know that Allan and I both refer loads of requests for advice that come through to us to the relevant co- ordinator. What Allan did say, and I agree with him on this, is that it isn't good enough for the help and advice pages on the site to fail to give help and advice. Firstly because some people prefer to look things up themselves, and secondly because some co-ordinators may not be sure of all the answers themselves. It is right that the FreeBMD help pages give advice on the subject of double page scans, and it is right that the advice given should take account of the fact that the instructions for such scans varies according to your syndicate. -- Dave Mayall ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net