I've been requested by Ian Brooke to send out the following words of wisdom. "Recently I've had a number of emails from people getting an error saying something like "I've been redirected to a new machine more than the maximum number of times". This is a bug in WinBMD version 4. However, it correctly updates it's details of the new machine and so if anyone getting this error simply tries the upload again it should work." Ian's having some technical problems at the moment and doesn't seem able to send emails to the FreeBMD lists. Allan Raymond