Might I suggest additional wording for http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b ? "Many Vista users find advantages in installing WinBMD in 'Documents' rather than 'Program Files'. If installed in 'Program Files' it can be advantageous to adjust 'Define Save Path' in the 'File' menu so that files are saved somewhere in 'Documents'." (possibly add 'that you will remember' after 'somewhere' in the above) I feel it would also be advantageous to add something along the same lines, together with the other advice in TKB 3(b), to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/ These do not explain the issue about Vista and its use of 'Virtual Store' but there is no need to go down that road if either WinBMD is installed in, or files created are stored in 'Documents'. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Richards" <cmr1chards@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > Raymond > > I find I have to send a sheet to new transcribers with the absolutely > essential information because the FreeBMD help pages have too much > information on them. So does my sheet! But by experience I have learnt > what has to put in more than once for emphasis. > > The problem is at that all the information on the FreeBMD help pages > needs to be there: but I find I have to be selective in what I send to > new transcribers. Once they are up and running the other problems get > dealt with one by one. > > Christopher > > Allan Raymond wrote: >> Christopher >> >> Just a thought, why should it be up to Coordinators to tell new >> transcribers >> how to set up WinBMD. >> >> Why not have this requirement as a standard instruction on either the TKB >> or >> Beginners for Help pages? >> >> Allan Raymond >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Richards" <cmr1chards@blueyonder.co.uk> >> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:12 PM >> Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List >> >> >> Having read of all the potential problems I think now it is up to the >> syndicate co-ordinators to tell new transcribers how set up WinBMD so >> that they save their files in a place where they can find them. >> Any other solution seems to suffer from the problems of having to find a >> way to make sure it will work on Windows 98, XP or Vista - which is just >> added complication. >> >> Christopher Richards >> >> Ian Brooke wrote: >> >>> I do tend to agree with most of these views. It seems to me to be very >>> simple for those users that have trouble locating their files to create >>> a >>> new folder someplace they can find it, for example under My Documents, >>> or >>> under Users on Vista, and just tell WinBMD to use that folder. I can't >>> really see anyone having serious problems doing that and it saves a lot >>> of >>> potentially risky code for WinBMD to try to do it. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nowl" <owl.news@zen.co.uk> >>> To: <FreeBMD-Syndicates@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:52 AM >>> Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Archer Barrie wrote on Wed, 4 Feb 2009: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I think you have a good point, although one shouldn't assume that all >>>>> existing users know where their output files are! Users can transcribe >>>>> without this knowledge, until the day when they need to do something >>>>> special with the file ... and then its location may be problematic. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks for the reply, Barrie, and yes, I see what you mean. . . >>>> although >>>> it's easy enough to check, since a custom path will be shown in >>>> brackets >>>> after Define Save Path in the File menu. If there's nothing there, the >>>> default path is being used (or the VirtualStore under Vista). And >>>> there's always Search :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I think the issue of moving files was sparked by Keith Simpson's mail >>>>> of >>>>> 28th Jan in which he described instructions to change the default path >>>>> for transcribers who were having problems because of the current >>>>> location. I presume it was in response to this that Ian made his >>>>> proposal to move files in his mail later the same day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I see. . . I didn't get Keith's original post -- the lists seem rather >>>> flakey lately, I often receive responses to an original message that >>>> never arrives! Having read it now, I wholeheartedly agree. I do >>>> recommend new volunteers change the default Save Path and suggest >>>> creating a subfolder in (My) Documents. >>>> >>>> I've posted previously on why I think the current default output folder >>>> location needs to be changed, and (sorry Allan!) agree that a subfolder >>>> of (My) Documents would be the best place for it -- easy to find for >>>> new >>>> users, conforming to standard practice and solving the permissions >>>> problems under Vista. >>>> >>>> For fresh installs, either by new users or existing volunteers >>>> switching >>>> to a new computer, I think this would be a great improvement. But if >>>> I've followed Ian correctly, there could be huge difficulties with >>>> existing WinBMD installations, in both determining the current output >>>> path and in where to put the new default folder. >>>> >>>> What I'm asking is, Is it really worth Ian's time and effort to >>>> struggle >>>> to make this a global change when for a large proportion of upgraders >>>> it >>>> wouldn't be necessary (and could also be quite annoying)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> The only reason I can see for moving files as a result of an upgrade >>>>> would be because WinBMD is in a better position to do it than users >>>>> (who >>>>> may have difficulty finding them). Against this we have the >>>>> complication >>>>> of users, who *did* know where their files were, forgetting (or not >>>>> realising) they had been moved. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> It could well be that I misunderstood the discussion, but it seemed to >>>> be accepted that moving existing files was desirable. I strongly >>>> disagree on that one :-) and could see it causing more problems than it >>>> solved. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Moving files to the same location shouldn't be a problem. The software >>>>> would notice and do nothing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Ah, that's reassuring, thanks, Barrie. >>>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >