Hi Chris, Thanks. I do remember that you asked to try the new version when it is ready and I will certainly send you a copy. I have no idea when that will be though and the longer it goes on the more I get alienated from this idea of trying to get the program to relocate the output folder. I think that it is much more difficult and even less desireable than Barrie is trying to suggest, I am mreally unclear of the technical advantages to doing it but we'll see where it goes. I am happier though with the emailing idea and if we can find a simple way to find either the senders smptp or that of the recipient I don't think it will be too difficult. I just wish I had more time to devote to it :( Regards Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Richards" <cmr1chards@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > Ian > > Your posting has only just come up on the syndicates list > > I'm currently trying out the beta of Windows 7. It is supposed to work > in much the same way as Vista. WinBMD worked first time. By default > the output files go into program files/WinBMD/output. > > I could try out the new version for you and see what it does. > > Christopher Richards > > I could try > > Ian Brooke wrote: >> It's somewhat more complicated than you suggest " if it does not start >> with >> (My )Documents, ask " - there are no requirements in Windows on the name >> given to My Documents. The majority of people would leave it as that but >> it >> really can be called anything and exist anywhere and this is further >> complicated by Vista's seemingly bisarre habits in locating folders, it >> certainly would never "start with My Documents" and may not have "My >> Documents" in the path. >> >> I'm not entirely sure about your point on questioning the user if they >> want >> to move the folder. Do you mean every time WinBMD runs and finds it's >> not >> under My Documents or just the first time it finds it not there? Clearly >> if >> it's just the first time then I'm going to need a "question asked" flag >> but >> asking every time would I think be quite annoying. Are we sure that >> transcribers are going to know whether they should be answering Yes or No >> to >> that questions or are we going to flood the lists with people asking what >> this means and what they should do? >> >> My purpose in using multiple flags was to try to avoid problems and I >> think >> I'm still going to have to do that, plus an additional flag about the >> question. The "folder created" flag was intended to overcome a problem >> if >> there was already a folder below My Documents with my proposed name - >> it's >> very unlikely but possible. The files copied flag was to overcome a >> problem >> if the machine crashed or closed down between creating the folder and >> completing copying all the files (that copy could take some time). With >> those 2 flags I can easily restart at the appropriate point. >> >> Part of my problem is that I don't have access to a Vista computer so I >> can't check what WinBMD would be showing as the path to it's folder. It >> *should* be the case that if I call the Windows routine to get the path >> to >> My Documents then that should match what WinBMD has stored as the >> starting >> part of the path to it's Output folder but that's a guess. What I'm >> going >> to need to do is produce a version which puts the path into the ini file >> and >> get someone to try it out and send me the ini after changing the folder >> to >> be in My Documents. Maybe I can see enough from what WinBMD is currently >> showing as the output folder path on its Files menu. Is there anyone who >> has Vista that could email me what WinBMD is currently showing as it's >> output path. Then create a new folder below My Documents and switch >> WinBMD >> to use that and again show me what WinBMD says it's path is. You could >> then >> switch it back to your original folder. >> >> If your preference is to have spaces rather than underscores in the >> folder >> name then that's not a problem. My preference is the other way around but >> I >> don't really mind either way. >> >> >> Ian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> >> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:40 AM >> Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List >> >> >> >>> I must say that I had envisaged a somewhat simpler process - but that >>> may be because I do not understand your proposals, or the complexity of >>> installing WinBMD! >>> >>> 1) I WinBMD is not already installed, silently set the output folder to >>> be under (My )Documents >>> >>> 2) If WinBMD is already installed check the output filename in the >>> configuration file - if it does not start with (My )Documents, ask the >>> user if you should move it to (My )Documents and if they say "yes", move >>> the files and change the output filename in the configuration file. >>> >>> As I understand it WinBMD currently uses a .ini file to store >>> configuration data and, I assume, this would not change in the new >>> version. Having configuration data in both the registry and an .ini is, >>> from a software engineering point of view, undesirable. >>> >>> Also my proposal involves less error checking, e.g. if the first >>> registry flag is set you have to check if the output folder is already >>> under (My )Documents. >>> >>> Plainly my proposal conflicts with your "I really don't want to mess >>> about checking where their current folder is and then dciding whether to >>> move it or not, it's probably error prone and overly complex." But your >>> proposal seemed to require you find where the current folder is >>> (otherwise how could you move the files from it?). I can't see that >>> asking the user if you should move their files for them, and then not >>> moving them if they answered "no", is complex. >>> >>> Finally, having underscore in a (My )Documents folder seems to be very >>> unusual. It would naturally be "WinBMD Output Files". However, if you >>> feel it necessary to differentiate the use by having "Output Files" it >>> would seem to me to be more logical to have this under a "WinBMD" folder >>> (i.e. (My )Documents\WinBMD\Output Files). >>> >>> Barrie >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Ian Brooke >>>> Sent: 31 January 2009 22:39 >>>> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List >>>> >>>> So here's what I would like to change WinBMD to do: >>>> If the folder has not been created (so I would check a registry flag); >>>> Create a new folder under My Documents (I'd like to call it >>>> "WinBMD_Output_Files"); >>>> Set the registry flag to show it's created. >>>> If the files have not ben moved (check another flag) >>>> Copy all the files from the existing Output folder to the >>>> new folder; >>>> Create the 2nd flag. >>>> Switch the Output path to use this new folder >>>> >>>> The existing Output folder could stay where it is and all the >>>> files would >>>> remain in it?? >>>> >>>> People could then move this new folder if they really wanted >>>> (using the >>>> existing Setpath feature on the Files menu). >>>> >>>> The only minor problem would be if people have installed >>>> WinBMD elsewhere >>>> (for examply on a drive of their choice) then their output >>>> folder would be >>>> changed to the new one, although again it's easy for them to >>>> switch back. I >>>> really don't want to mess about checking where their current >>>> folder is and >>>> then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error >>>> prone and overly >>>> complex. >>>> >>>> Any comments? >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> >>>> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:02 PM >>>> Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Exactly! Just as I have been saying, the *default* should >>>>> >>>> be a folder >>>> >>>>> under Documents (My Documents in earlier Windows) then, as >>>>> >>>> you imply, it >>>> >>>>> would be easy for users to find. >>>>> >>>>> Barrie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>>> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Keith Simpson >>>>>> Sent: 28 January 2009 18:00 >>>>>> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: re Windows Wish List >>>>>> Importance: High >>>>>> >>>>>> After reading all the messages regarding where files of >>>>>> transcripts are >>>>>> stored when saved . I would just like to say that a >>>>>> >>>> picture is worth a >>>> >>>>>> thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having >>>>>> problems I send >>>>>> them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I >>>>>> send detailed >>>>>> instructions on how to change the default settings to a place >>>>>> they would >>>>>> recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES >>>>>> in the DOCUMENTS >>>>>> folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They >>>>>> don't have to >>>>>> go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove >>>>>> daunting for new >>>>>> users of computers. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Keith >>>>>> >>>>>> Gandalf Syndicate >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>>>>> of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>>> of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >