HI! Proof-reader hat on: "Many Vista users find it best to store their transcription files in 'Documents' rather than in its default location of 'Program Files/WinBMD/Output'. To do this, first create a new folder in your 'Documents' called <WinBMD Output>. Then, in WinBMD, use File/Define Save Path to specify that folder as the location in 'Documents' to store your transcription files." (On the basis that one should give instructions in logical order of operation...) -- Anne ---- Archer Barrie <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> wrote: > Yikes, no! It is only the output path that should be under Documents not > WinBMD! > > "Many Vista users find advantages in storing their transcription files > in 'Documents' rather > than in its default location of 'Program Files/WinBMD/Output'. In WinBMD > use File/Define Save Path to specify a location in Documents to store > your transcription files; a folder WinBMD/Output is suggested (these > folders will have to be created prior to redefining the path)." > > Unfortunately, it appears that the dialogue box you get for File/Define > Save Path does not allow folder creation. Do we have to explain how to > create folders? > > The issue I have with adding this to advice to 3b is it also applies to > XP so perhaps it should be a separate TKB item referenced from 3b. > > Barrie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > Jeff Coleman > > Sent: 09 February 2009 11:32 > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > > > > Might I suggest additional wording for > > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b ? > > > > "Many Vista users find advantages in installing WinBMD in > > 'Documents' rather > > than 'Program Files'. If installed in 'Program Files' it can > > be advantageous > > to adjust 'Define Save Path' in the 'File' menu so that files > > are saved > > somewhere in 'Documents'." > > > > (possibly add 'that you will remember' after 'somewhere' in the above) > > > > I feel it would also be advantageous to add something along > > the same lines, > > together with the other advice in TKB 3(b), to > > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/ > > > > These do not explain the issue about Vista and its use of > > 'Virtual Store' > > but there is no need to go down that road if either WinBMD is > > installed in, > > or files created are stored in 'Documents'. > > > > Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Richards" <cmr1chards@blueyonder.co.uk> > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:51 AM > > Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > I find I have to send a sheet to new transcribers with the > > absolutely > > > essential information because the FreeBMD help pages have too much > > > information on them. So does my sheet! But by experience > > I have learnt > > > what has to put in more than once for emphasis. > > > > > > The problem is at that all the information on the FreeBMD help pages > > > needs to be there: but I find I have to be selective in > > what I send to > > > new transcribers. Once they are up and running the other > > problems get > > > dealt with one by one. > > > > > > Christopher > > > > > > Allan Raymond wrote: > > >> Christopher > > >> > > >> Just a thought, why should it be up to Coordinators to tell new > > >> transcribers > > >> how to set up WinBMD. > > >> > > >> Why not have this requirement as a standard instruction on > > either the TKB > > >> or > > >> Beginners for Help pages? > > >> > > >> Allan Raymond > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Christopher Richards" <cmr1chards@blueyonder.co.uk> > > >> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:12 PM > > >> Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > > >> > > >> > > >> Having read of all the potential problems I think now it > > is up to the > > >> syndicate co-ordinators to tell new transcribers how set > > up WinBMD so > > >> that they save their files in a place where they can find them. > > >> Any other solution seems to suffer from the problems of > > having to find a > > >> way to make sure it will work on Windows 98, XP or Vista - > > which is just > > >> added complication. > > >> > > >> Christopher Richards > > >> > > >> Ian Brooke wrote: > > >> > > >>> I do tend to agree with most of these views. It seems to > > me to be very > > >>> simple for those users that have trouble locating their > > files to create > > >>> a > > >>> new folder someplace they can find it, for example under > > My Documents, > > >>> or > > >>> under Users on Vista, and just tell WinBMD to use that > > folder. I can't > > >>> really see anyone having serious problems doing that and > > it saves a lot > > >>> of > > >>> potentially risky code for WinBMD to try to do it. > > >>> > > >>> Ian > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Nowl" <owl.news@zen.co.uk> > > >>> To: <FreeBMD-Syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:52 AM > > >>> Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Archer Barrie wrote on Wed, 4 Feb 2009: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> I think you have a good point, although one shouldn't > > assume that all > > >>>>> existing users know where their output files are! Users > > can transcribe > > >>>>> without this knowledge, until the day when they need to > > do something > > >>>>> special with the file ... and then its location may be > > problematic. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Thanks for the reply, Barrie, and yes, I see what you mean. . . > > >>>> although > > >>>> it's easy enough to check, since a custom path will be shown in > > >>>> brackets > > >>>> after Define Save Path in the File menu. If there's > > nothing there, the > > >>>> default path is being used (or the VirtualStore under Vista). And > > >>>> there's always Search :-) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> I think the issue of moving files was sparked by Keith > > Simpson's mail > > >>>>> of > > >>>>> 28th Jan in which he described instructions to change > > the default path > > >>>>> for transcribers who were having problems because of the current > > >>>>> location. I presume it was in response to this that Ian made his > > >>>>> proposal to move files in his mail later the same day. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> I see. . . I didn't get Keith's original post -- the > > lists seem rather > > >>>> flakey lately, I often receive responses to an original > > message that > > >>>> never arrives! Having read it now, I wholeheartedly agree. I do > > >>>> recommend new volunteers change the default Save Path and suggest > > >>>> creating a subfolder in (My) Documents. > > >>>> > > >>>> I've posted previously on why I think the current > > default output folder > > >>>> location needs to be changed, and (sorry Allan!) agree > > that a subfolder > > >>>> of (My) Documents would be the best place for it -- easy > > to find for > > >>>> new > > >>>> users, conforming to standard practice and solving the > > permissions > > >>>> problems under Vista. > > >>>> > > >>>> For fresh installs, either by new users or existing volunteers > > >>>> switching > > >>>> to a new computer, I think this would be a great > > improvement. But if > > >>>> I've followed Ian correctly, there could be huge > > difficulties with > > >>>> existing WinBMD installations, in both determining the > > current output > > >>>> path and in where to put the new default folder. > > >>>> > > >>>> What I'm asking is, Is it really worth Ian's time and effort to > > >>>> struggle > > >>>> to make this a global change when for a large proportion > > of upgraders > > >>>> it > > >>>> wouldn't be necessary (and could also be quite annoying)? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> The only reason I can see for moving files as a result > > of an upgrade > > >>>>> would be because WinBMD is in a better position to do > > it than users > > >>>>> (who > > >>>>> may have difficulty finding them). Against this we have the > > >>>>> complication > > >>>>> of users, who *did* know where their files were, > > forgetting (or not > > >>>>> realising) they had been moved. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> It could well be that I misunderstood the discussion, > > but it seemed to > > >>>> be accepted that moving existing files was desirable. I strongly > > >>>> disagree on that one :-) and could see it causing more > > problems than it > > >>>> solved. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Moving files to the same location shouldn't be a > > problem. The software > > >>>>> would notice and do nothing. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Ah, that's reassuring, thanks, Barrie. > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' > > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message