Allan, Do you run with UAC switched off? Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Allan Raymond > Sent: 28 January 2009 17:20 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > I'm not necessarily saying my process is correct but it works > perfectly for > me without any problems. > > 1. I'm using Vista, so I know it works > > 2. I set up a new Folder C:\WinBMD > > 3. I downloaded and saved WinBMD (ignoring any problems with > Run time error > 429 error) to this folder when requested where to save to. > > 4. The default for saved files is in the Output folder which is > automatically set up as a sub folder of WinBMD folder, which > in my case is > C:\WinBMD\Output > > I can guarantee the files are easily found in > C:\WinBMD\Output which is why > I keep saying I can't understand why transcribers can't find > their files if > using Vista. > > I seem to recollect this is what I did when I had Windows 98 > before moving > across to Vista. > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:45 PM > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > > Oh, I thought you had WinBMD in c:\Program Files\WinBMD and > your data in > c:\WinBMD! > > So... > > 1) When you install WinBMD it puts the program in c:\Program > Files\WinBMD unless you specifically change it. So c:\Program > Files\WinBMD is the default. > > 2) My understanding would be that "a separate folder on your > hard drive" > means just that, it does not mean it has to be directly under c:, it > just means that it should not be in the same folder as SpeedBMD. As > evidence I would offer 1) above. Installing WinBMD in the SpeedBMD > folder would be pretty perverse but I guess the instruction is there > because somebody did it. > > 3) I don't have Vista so I cannot test this, but I assume that the way > you have it set up will *not* work under Vista in the sense > that output > files will still not be easily found. What Vista is trying to do is to > stop different users using the same part of fileststore and > it does this > by virtualising any attempt to write to the program location (be that > c:\Program Files\WinBMD or c:\WinBMD). > > I stand by my previous assertion, however, that the only sensible > default (nowadays) for the output is My Documents/WinBMD. > > Barrie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > Allan Raymond > > Sent: 28 January 2009 11:50 > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > Sorry I can't agree with with this assumption, purely from my > > layman's point > > of view. > > > > I took the instructions for installing WinBMD quite literal > > and installed > > the program in its own folder on the C; drive. The > > instructions states > > "WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be > > installed in > > the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard > > drive", whence I > > set up a WinBMD folder on the C; drive rather than a sub > > folder within the > > "Program" folder. > > > > When I save a WinBMD file it is either: > > > > Save Current Batch > > or > > Save Batch and Exit > > > > NEVER Save As.... > > > > Using my method any files are saved by default in a folder > > called "Output" > > below my WinBMD folder. > > > > So whenever I need to search for a file produced by WinBMD, I > > will find it > > in folder C:/WinBMD/Output which means it is quite accessible. > > > > Allan Raymond > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:17 AM > > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > Allan, > > > > The problem is that it is not the default. The default is a location > > that is not immediately accessible. > > > > Barrie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > > Allan Raymond > > > Sent: 27 January 2009 20:09 > > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > A tick in the box. > > > > > > Exactly where my WinBMD resides, perhaps that is why I can't > > > see what all > > > the fuss is about anyone not being able to locate their files > > > to send to > > > their Coordinator. > > > > > > Allan Raymond > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bob Phillips" <robert.ph@ntlworld.com> > > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > > > > How about making the default installation folder > > > C:\WinBMD > > > instead of the standard > > > C:\Program Files\WinBMD > > > which should stop Windows Vista from changing the Save location. > > > > > > cheers > > > Bob Phillips > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nowl" <owl.news@zen.co.uk> > > > To: <FreeBMD-Syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Richards wrote on Tue, 27 Jan 2009: > > > > > > > >>I'm wondering if there is a simpler solution. An option > > to "prepare > > > >>file for emailing". This would save a copy on the desktop. > > > From there > > > >>it is easy to find it and attach it to an email whatever > > > system one is > > > >>using. > > > > > > > > Oh no, *please* don't let's encourage people to copy > files to the > > > > desktop! This is exactly what leads to the multiple-version > > > nightmare I > > > > posted about last week (see thread "Save As headaches". > > > > > > > > I agree with Barrie and think the core problem is the > > Save Path. I'd > > > > like to see WinBMD, when first run, ask the user to choose > > > or create a > > > > folder in which to store their work, perhaps offering > to create a > > > > subfolder of My Documents by default. > > > > -- > > > > Nowl > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' > > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release > > > Date: 1/27/2009 > > > 7:26 AM > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > > of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >
Barrie Nope! http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#3b was based on my practical experience of trying to get WinBMD to work with Vista. UAC on means WinBMD works UAC off means no WinBMD and "Run time error 429 ActiveX component can not create object". Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD Allan, Do you run with UAC switched off? Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Allan Raymond > Sent: 28 January 2009 17:20 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > I'm not necessarily saying my process is correct but it works > perfectly for > me without any problems. > > 1. I'm using Vista, so I know it works > > 2. I set up a new Folder C:\WinBMD > > 3. I downloaded and saved WinBMD (ignoring any problems with > Run time error > 429 error) to this folder when requested where to save to. > > 4. The default for saved files is in the Output folder which is > automatically set up as a sub folder of WinBMD folder, which > in my case is > C:\WinBMD\Output > > I can guarantee the files are easily found in > C:\WinBMD\Output which is why > I keep saying I can't understand why transcribers can't find > their files if > using Vista. > > I seem to recollect this is what I did when I had Windows 98 > before moving > across to Vista. > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:45 PM > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > > Oh, I thought you had WinBMD in c:\Program Files\WinBMD and > your data in > c:\WinBMD! > > So... > > 1) When you install WinBMD it puts the program in c:\Program > Files\WinBMD unless you specifically change it. So c:\Program > Files\WinBMD is the default. > > 2) My understanding would be that "a separate folder on your > hard drive" > means just that, it does not mean it has to be directly under c:, it > just means that it should not be in the same folder as SpeedBMD. As > evidence I would offer 1) above. Installing WinBMD in the SpeedBMD > folder would be pretty perverse but I guess the instruction is there > because somebody did it. > > 3) I don't have Vista so I cannot test this, but I assume that the way > you have it set up will *not* work under Vista in the sense > that output > files will still not be easily found. What Vista is trying to do is to > stop different users using the same part of fileststore and > it does this > by virtualising any attempt to write to the program location (be that > c:\Program Files\WinBMD or c:\WinBMD). > > I stand by my previous assertion, however, that the only sensible > default (nowadays) for the output is My Documents/WinBMD. > > Barrie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > Allan Raymond > > Sent: 28 January 2009 11:50 > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > Sorry I can't agree with with this assumption, purely from my > > layman's point > > of view. > > > > I took the instructions for installing WinBMD quite literal > > and installed > > the program in its own folder on the C; drive. The > > instructions states > > "WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be > > installed in > > the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard > > drive", whence I > > set up a WinBMD folder on the C; drive rather than a sub > > folder within the > > "Program" folder. > > > > When I save a WinBMD file it is either: > > > > Save Current Batch > > or > > Save Batch and Exit > > > > NEVER Save As.... > > > > Using my method any files are saved by default in a folder > > called "Output" > > below my WinBMD folder. > > > > So whenever I need to search for a file produced by WinBMD, I > > will find it > > in folder C:/WinBMD/Output which means it is quite accessible. > > > > Allan Raymond > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:17 AM > > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > Allan, > > > > The problem is that it is not the default. The default is a location > > that is not immediately accessible. > > > > Barrie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > > Allan Raymond > > > Sent: 27 January 2009 20:09 > > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > A tick in the box. > > > > > > Exactly where my WinBMD resides, perhaps that is why I can't > > > see what all > > > the fuss is about anyone not being able to locate their files > > > to send to > > > their Coordinator. > > > > > > Allan Raymond > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bob Phillips" <robert.ph@ntlworld.com> > > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > > > > How about making the default installation folder > > > C:\WinBMD > > > instead of the standard > > > C:\Program Files\WinBMD > > > which should stop Windows Vista from changing the Save location. > > > > > > cheers > > > Bob Phillips > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nowl" <owl.news@zen.co.uk> > > > To: <FreeBMD-Syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Richards wrote on Tue, 27 Jan 2009: > > > > > > > >>I'm wondering if there is a simpler solution. An option > > to "prepare > > > >>file for emailing". This would save a copy on the desktop. > > > From there > > > >>it is easy to find it and attach it to an email whatever > > > system one is > > > >>using. > > > > > > > > Oh no, *please* don't let's encourage people to copy > files to the > > > > desktop! This is exactly what leads to the multiple-version > > > nightmare I > > > > posted about last week (see thread "Save As headaches". > > > > > > > > I agree with Barrie and think the core problem is the > > Save Path. I'd > > > > like to see WinBMD, when first run, ask the user to choose > > > or create a > > > > folder in which to store their work, perhaps offering > to create a > > > > subfolder of My Documents by default. > > > > -- > > > > Nowl > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' > > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release > > > Date: 1/27/2009 > > > 7:26 AM > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > > of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message