barrie 10/04/05 20:36:48 Modified: html vol_faq.html Log: Clarify 6aj: Which is the surname field and reference to UCF Revision Changes Path 1.138 +5 -3 UKGEN-FreeBMD/html/vol_faq.html Index: vol_faq.html =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/UKGEN-FreeBMD/html/vol_faq.html,v retrieving revision 1.137 retrieving revision 1.138 diff -u -r1.137 -r1.138 --- vol_faq.html 28 Mar 2010 06:40:44 -0000 1.137 +++ vol_faq.html 5 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0000 1.138 @@ -854,9 +854,11 @@ <H4><a name=6aj>6 (aj) I have an entry in which the Mother's name is just a long dash. How do I transcribe it? </a></H4> -Transcribe it as a dash (see details of <A HREF='/Format.shtml#ucf'>UCF characters</A>). -The same applies to other fields but <U>not</U> to the dash in the Surname field of typeset pages which -means "repeat the above Surname"; for these you repeat the Surname. +Transcribe it as a dash (see details of <A HREF='/Format.shtml#ucf'>UCF characters</A> for +information on the use of ? when there are no characters in the field). The same applies +to other fields but <U>not</U> to the dash in the Surname field (i.e. the first field) of +typeset pages which means "repeat the above Surname"; for these you repeat the +Surname. <h4><a name=6ak>6 (ak) How do I transcribe an Index Page where one or more names are out of sequence and their correct place on another page is indicated by an insertion mark (and possibly a comment).</a></h4> <p> --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--
Thanks, Barrie, but I'm confused. It looks as if the revision still says: "Transcribe it as a dash" instead of the previous advice to use the ? UCF, but it links to the entry for "?" in the UCF table. Has the rule been changed, or is it a mistake? And if we're to use a dash, which character is it, hyphen or underscore? Thanks for any clarification you can give. For info, here's (part of) the "old" wording: "The long dash indicates that the field is missing, therefore transcribe it as ? which means that the field is missing (see details of UCF characters)." -- Nowl Barrie wrote on Mon, 5 Apr 2010: >barrie 10/04/05 20:36:48 > > Modified: html vol_faq.html > Log: > Clarify 6aj: Which is the surname field and reference to UCF > >Revision Changes Path >1.138 +5 -3 UKGEN-FreeBMD/html/vol_faq.html > >Index: vol_faq.html >=================================================================== >RCS file: /home/cvs/UKGEN-FreeBMD/html/vol_faq.html,v >retrieving revision 1.137 >retrieving revision 1.138 >diff -u -r1.137 -r1.138 >--- vol_faq.html 28 Mar 2010 06:40:44 -0000 1.137 >+++ vol_faq.html 5 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0000 1.138 >@@ -854,9 +854,11 @@ > > <H4><a name=6aj>6 (aj) I have an entry in which the Mother's >name is just > a long dash. How do I transcribe it? </a></H4> >-Transcribe it as a dash (see details of <A >HREF='/Format.shtml#ucf'>UCF characters</A>). >-The same applies to other fields but <U>not</U> to the dash in the >Surname field of typeset pages which >-means "repeat the above Surname"; for these you repeat the Surname. >+Transcribe it as a dash (see details of <A >HREF='/Format.shtml#ucf'>UCF characters</A> for >+information on the use of ? when there are no characters in the >field). The same applies >+to other fields but <U>not</U> to the dash in the Surname field (i.e. >the first field) of >+typeset pages which means "repeat the above Surname"; for >these you repeat the >+Surname. > > <h4><a name=6ak>6 (ak) How do I transcribe an Index Page where >one or more names are out of sequence and their >correct place on another page is indicated by an insertion mark (and >possibly a comment).</a></h4> > <p> > > > > >--Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Nowl
My understanding is that the previous advice to transcribe as a ? was wrong because it did not correspond to the definitive information <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/Format.shtml> since it would contravene Type What You See. In other words transcribing a dash as ? was an interpretation of what a dash means rather than typing what is there. The link to UCF now says "see details of UCF characters for information on the use of ? when there are no characters in the field". Arguably it should be removed completely. (Lines starting with - have been removed, lines starting with + have been added.) At some point the definition of ? in UCF was also changed to make it clearer that it was only used when the field was missing. I will change the definition (again!) so that it is clear that a hyphen should be typed. Changes to the Transcribers' Knowledge Base are not yet getting through automatically (I forwarded the last one) because they need to moderated. I will try to get this sorted out - if I can find a way to contact the list moderator! Barrie On 19:59, Nowl wrote: > <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Thanks, > Barrie, but I'm confused. > > It looks as if the revision still says: "Transcribe it as a dash" > instead of the previous advice to use the ? UCF, but it links to the > entry for "?" in the UCF table. > > Has the rule been changed, or is it a mistake? And if we're to use a > dash, which character is it, hyphen or underscore? > > Thanks for any clarification you can give. For info, here's (part of) > the "old" wording: > > "The long dash indicates that the field is missing, therefore > transcribe it as ? which means that the field is missing (see details > of UCF characters)." > > -- > Nowl > > > > > > Barrie wrote on Mon, 5 Apr 2010: > >> barrie 10/04/05 20:36:48 >> >> Modified: html vol_faq.html >> Log: >> Clarify 6aj: Which is the surname field and reference to UCF >> >> Revision Changes Path >> 1.138 +5 -3 UKGEN-FreeBMD/html/vol_faq.html >> >> Index: vol_faq.html >> =================================================================== >> RCS file: /home/cvs/UKGEN-FreeBMD/html/vol_faq.html,v >> retrieving revision 1.137 >> retrieving revision 1.138 >> diff -u -r1.137 -r1.138 >> --- vol_faq.html 28 Mar 2010 06:40:44 -0000 1.137 >> +++ vol_faq.html 5 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0000 1.138 >> @@ -854,9 +854,11 @@ >> >> <H4><a name=6aj>6 (aj) I have an entry in which the Mother's >> name is just >> a long dash. How do I transcribe it? </a></H4> >> -Transcribe it as a dash (see details of <A >> HREF='/Format.shtml#ucf'>UCF characters</A>). >> -The same applies to other fields but <U>not</U> to the dash in the >> Surname field of typeset pages which >> -means "repeat the above Surname"; for these you repeat the >> Surname. >> +Transcribe it as a dash (see details of <A >> HREF='/Format.shtml#ucf'>UCF characters</A> for >> +information on the use of ? when there are no characters in the >> field). The same applies >> +to other fields but <U>not</U> to the dash in the Surname field >> (i.e. the first field) of >> +typeset pages which means "repeat the above Surname"; for >> these you repeat the >> +Surname. >> >> <h4><a name=6ak>6 (ak) How do I transcribe an Index Page where >> one or more names are out of sequence and their >> correct place on another page is indicated by an insertion mark (and >> possibly a comment).</a></h4> >> <p> >> >> >> >> >> --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--