I am happy either way, continuing as at present or making it an error forcing rejection of the file, as long as either it is accompanied by a message asking the transcriber to contact their syndicate co-ordinator, or a report is generated to the co-ordinator concerned about the failed upload. Neither will deal with the transcriber who puts March instead of June, if the syndicate is working on both quarters, but our existing methods should find such instances. As a related issue, is there a way of indicating on Upload Report, or the list of files in Show File, whether a file has a 'Warning' attached to it? The existence of a warning might encourage us to look at the file on 'Show File'. If the text of the warning could be displayed on 'Show File' then we would know what issues to raise with our transcribers. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "FreeBMD Quality Assurance Coordinator" <qa-coord@freebmd.org.uk> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Checking transcriptions > Not long ago I enhanced the upload process so it checks if the > transcription (Sequenced files only) is for a quarter being done by a > syndicate the transcriber is a member of. If it is not a warning > <http://test.freebmd.org.uk:8084/error-help.html#BMDnotinsynd> is shown > asking the user to correct the error or contact their coordinator or > support, but the file _is_ uploaded. > > The purpose of this is to try to catch the error where the wrong quarter > is transcribed, an error that occurs fairly regularly. Sometimes the > transcription specifies the year/quarter/event corresponding to the > entries but sometimes the entries are right and the year/quarter/event > is wrong. > > I would like to change this to an _error_ rather than a warning because > > * with a warning the erroneous file is uploaded and incorrect > entries could get included in an update; with an error the file is > not uploaded > * experience shows that some users are just ignoring the warning > * it really is an error; something is wrong somewhere, even if it is > that the user has not been added to the syndicate > > Please note that transcriptions outside the syndicate > <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#5f> can still be uploaded if the > syndicate name is given as "Individual". So pages that have been > incorrectly transcribed can be uploaded and the effort is not wasted. > > I would welcome feedback from syndicate coordinators on this proposal. > > Barrie > FreeBMD Quality Assurance Coordinator > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I do like Jeffs' suggestion of being able to view any warnings that are attached to a file - if that could be implemented too, it would be great Teri -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2010 7:05 AM To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Checking transcriptions I am happy either way, continuing as at present or making it an error forcing rejection of the file, as long as either it is accompanied by a message asking the transcriber to contact their syndicate co-ordinator, or a report is generated to the co-ordinator concerned about the failed upload. Neither will deal with the transcriber who puts March instead of June, if the syndicate is working on both quarters, but our existing methods should find such instances. As a related issue, is there a way of indicating on Upload Report, or the list of files in Show File, whether a file has a 'Warning' attached to it? The existence of a warning might encourage us to look at the file on 'Show File'. If the text of the warning could be displayed on 'Show File' then we would know what issues to raise with our transcribers. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "FreeBMD Quality Assurance Coordinator" <qa-coord@freebmd.org.uk> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Checking transcriptions > Not long ago I enhanced the upload process so it checks if the > transcription (Sequenced files only) is for a quarter being done by a > syndicate the transcriber is a member of. If it is not a warning > <http://test.freebmd.org.uk:8084/error-help.html#BMDnotinsynd> is shown > asking the user to correct the error or contact their coordinator or > support, but the file _is_ uploaded. > > The purpose of this is to try to catch the error where the wrong quarter > is transcribed, an error that occurs fairly regularly. Sometimes the > transcription specifies the year/quarter/event corresponding to the > entries but sometimes the entries are right and the year/quarter/event > is wrong. > > I would like to change this to an _error_ rather than a warning because > > * with a warning the erroneous file is uploaded and incorrect > entries could get included in an update; with an error the file is > not uploaded > * experience shows that some users are just ignoring the warning > * it really is an error; something is wrong somewhere, even if it is > that the user has not been added to the syndicate > > Please note that transcriptions outside the syndicate > <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#5f> can still be uploaded if the > syndicate name is given as "Individual". So pages that have been > incorrectly transcribed can be uploaded and the effort is not wasted. > > I would welcome feedback from syndicate coordinators on this proposal. > > Barrie > FreeBMD Quality Assurance Coordinator > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15470) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15470) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

If you now use coord-show-file.p <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/coord-show-file.pl>l in the directory listing there will be a letter W next to files with warnings. Click on the W to see the warnings. Barrie On 19:59, Jeff Coleman wrote: > <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">I am > happy either way, continuing as at present or making it an error > forcing rejection of the file, as long as either it is accompanied by > a message asking the transcriber to contact their syndicate > co-ordinator, or a report is generated to the co-ordinator concerned > about the failed upload. > > Neither will deal with the transcriber who puts March instead of June, > if the syndicate is working on both quarters, but our existing methods > should find such instances. > > As a related issue, is there a way of indicating on Upload Report, or > the list of files in Show File, whether a file has a 'Warning' > attached to it? The existence of a warning might encourage us to look > at the file on 'Show File'. > > If the text of the warning could be displayed on 'Show File' then we > would know what issues to raise with our transcribers. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- From: "FreeBMD Quality Assurance > Coordinator" <qa-coord@freebmd.org.uk> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:42 AM > Subject: Checking transcriptions > > >> Not long ago I enhanced the upload process so it checks if the >> transcription (Sequenced files only) is for a quarter being done by a >> syndicate the transcriber is a member of. If it is not a warning >> <http://test.freebmd.org.uk:8084/error-help.html#BMDnotinsynd> is shown >> asking the user to correct the error or contact their coordinator or >> support, but the file _is_ uploaded. >> >> The purpose of this is to try to catch the error where the wrong quarter >> is transcribed, an error that occurs fairly regularly. Sometimes the >> transcription specifies the year/quarter/event corresponding to the >> entries but sometimes the entries are right and the year/quarter/event >> is wrong. >> >> I would like to change this to an _error_ rather than a warning because >> >> * with a warning the erroneous file is uploaded and incorrect >> entries could get included in an update; with an error the file is >> not uploaded >> * experience shows that some users are just ignoring the warning >> * it really is an error; something is wrong somewhere, even if it is >> that the user has not been added to the syndicate >> >> Please note that transcriptions outside the syndicate >> <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#5f> can still be uploaded if the >> syndicate name is given as "Individual". So pages that have been >> incorrectly transcribed can be uploaded and the effort is not wasted. >> >> I would welcome feedback from syndicate coordinators on this proposal. >> >> Barrie >> FreeBMD Quality Assurance Coordinator >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > </div> --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Many thanks, Barrie That could be very useful. By chance I discovered not long ago that one of my transcribers had a consistent error in transcribing 'forward references' like See M'38. That is what led me to make the suggestion. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie" <freebmd@myarcher.net> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Re: Checking transcriptions > If you now use coord-show-file.p > <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/coord-show-file.pl>l in the directory > listing there will be a letter W next to files with warnings. Click on > the W to see the warnings. > > Barrie > > On 19:59, Jeff Coleman wrote: >> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">I am >> happy either way, continuing as at present or making it an error >> forcing rejection of the file, as long as either it is accompanied by >> a message asking the transcriber to contact their syndicate >> co-ordinator, or a report is generated to the co-ordinator concerned >> about the failed upload. >> >> Neither will deal with the transcriber who puts March instead of June, >> if the syndicate is working on both quarters, but our existing methods >> should find such instances. >> >> As a related issue, is there a way of indicating on Upload Report, or >> the list of files in Show File, whether a file has a 'Warning' >> attached to it? The existence of a warning might encourage us to look >> at the file on 'Show File'. >> >> If the text of the warning could be displayed on 'Show File' then we >> would know what issues to raise with our transcribers. >> >> Jeff >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "FreeBMD Quality Assurance >> Coordinator" <qa-coord@freebmd.org.uk> >> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:42 AM >> Subject: Checking transcriptions >> >> >>> Not long ago I enhanced the upload process so it checks if the >>> transcription (Sequenced files only) is for a quarter being done by a >>> syndicate the transcriber is a member of. If it is not a warning >>> <http://test.freebmd.org.uk:8084/error-help.html#BMDnotinsynd> is shown >>> asking the user to correct the error or contact their coordinator or >>> support, but the file _is_ uploaded. >>> >>> The purpose of this is to try to catch the error where the wrong quarter >>> is transcribed, an error that occurs fairly regularly. Sometimes the >>> transcription specifies the year/quarter/event corresponding to the >>> entries but sometimes the entries are right and the year/quarter/event >>> is wrong. >>> >>> I would like to change this to an _error_ rather than a warning because >>> >>> * with a warning the erroneous file is uploaded and incorrect >>> entries could get included in an update; with an error the file is >>> not uploaded >>> * experience shows that some users are just ignoring the warning >>> * it really is an error; something is wrong somewhere, even if it is >>> that the user has not been added to the syndicate >>> >>> Please note that transcriptions outside the syndicate >>> <http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#5f> can still be uploaded if the >>> syndicate name is given as "Individual". So pages that have been >>> incorrectly transcribed can be uploaded and the effort is not wasted. >>> >>> I would welcome feedback from syndicate coordinators on this proposal. >>> >>> Barrie >>> FreeBMD Quality Assurance Coordinator >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> </div> > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >