It looks like the first is where we got our existing data from (I haven't checked the values). The second would be what we want except that it only gives data per year, not per quarter. I have emailed ONS requesting the information. Barrie Allan Raymond wrote: > Is this where we got or can get the totals? > > Births: 1837-1937 - > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4202&More=Y > > Births: 1938-2004 - > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4274&More=Y > > Allan Raymond > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Raymond" <allan_raymond@btinternet.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: Progress Bar-charts not updated? > > > A fairly accurate number of birth records for 1938 March Births is 159607. > > Derived from 1057 pages in the Index for this quarter multiplied by 151 > (entries per page) > > Why 151? > > Because 322 pages uploaded to date for this quarter realised 48670 entries > (48670/322 = 151.15). > > The same could be done for the other quarters. > > Or is this a flawed way to calculate the totals? > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barrie" <freebmd@myarcher.net> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: Progress Bar-charts not updated? > > > The reason turns out to be that, for Births, we only have totals from > the GRO up to 1937. For Marriages and Deaths we have the totals up to 1983. > > Since the graphs are percentages, not having the total makes it kinda > difficult! > > I have no idea how we got the totals from the GRO but I will investigate. > > Barrie > > Richard Oliver wrote: > >> Someone is going to ask me this question in the next few hours, so can >> someone else please help me with a ready answer? >> >> My Syndicate has been busying away at 1938 March Births for 6-7 weeks, and >> we have collectively uploaded around 235 page files (35,000 records), >> around 23% of the Quarter. And yet the chart at >> http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml#1930 suggests we haven't done >> a stroke of work, and shows zero. >> >> The chart itself must be out of sync, as a random check - on just a couple >> of records uploaded by me - shows they are indeed in the database. So how >> come a discrepancy like that? >> >> Richard Oliver >> Madrid, Spain >> richol@arrakis.es >> >> >> > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

2009/5/26 Allan Raymond <allan_raymond@btinternet.com>: > Is this where we got or can get the totals? > > Births: 1837-1937  - > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4202&More=Y > > Births: 1938-2004 - > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4274&More=Y The totals certainly come from statbase, although the lack of a single set telling us what we need to know usually means some interesting calculations!

Is this where we got the totals? Births: 1837-1937 - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4202&More=Y Births: 1938-2004 - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4274&More=Y Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie" <freebmd@myarcher.net> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Progress Bar-charts not updated? The reason turns out to be that, for Births, we only have totals from the GRO up to 1937. For Marriages and Deaths we have the totals up to 1983. Since the graphs are percentages, not having the total makes it kinda difficult! I have no idea how we got the totals from the GRO but I will investigate. Barrie Richard Oliver wrote: > Someone is going to ask me this question in the next few hours, so can > someone else please help me with a ready answer? > > My Syndicate has been busying away at 1938 March Births for 6-7 weeks, and > we have collectively uploaded around 235 page files (35,000 records), > around 23% of the Quarter. And yet the chart at > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml#1930 suggests we haven't done > a stroke of work, and shows zero. > > The chart itself must be out of sync, as a random check - on just a couple > of records uploaded by me - shows they are indeed in the database. So how > come a discrepancy like that? > > Richard Oliver > Madrid, Spain > richol@arrakis.es > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this where we got or can get the totals? Births: 1837-1937 - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4202&More=Y Births: 1938-2004 - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/xsdataset.asp?vlnk=4274&More=Y Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Raymond" <allan_raymond@btinternet.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Progress Bar-charts not updated? A fairly accurate number of birth records for 1938 March Births is 159607. Derived from 1057 pages in the Index for this quarter multiplied by 151 (entries per page) Why 151? Because 322 pages uploaded to date for this quarter realised 48670 entries (48670/322 = 151.15). The same could be done for the other quarters. Or is this a flawed way to calculate the totals? Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie" <freebmd@myarcher.net> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Progress Bar-charts not updated? The reason turns out to be that, for Births, we only have totals from the GRO up to 1937. For Marriages and Deaths we have the totals up to 1983. Since the graphs are percentages, not having the total makes it kinda difficult! I have no idea how we got the totals from the GRO but I will investigate. Barrie Richard Oliver wrote: > Someone is going to ask me this question in the next few hours, so can > someone else please help me with a ready answer? > > My Syndicate has been busying away at 1938 March Births for 6-7 weeks, and > we have collectively uploaded around 235 page files (35,000 records), > around 23% of the Quarter. And yet the chart at > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml#1930 suggests we haven't done > a stroke of work, and shows zero. > > The chart itself must be out of sync, as a random check - on just a couple > of records uploaded by me - shows they are indeed in the database. So how > come a discrepancy like that? > > Richard Oliver > Madrid, Spain > richol@arrakis.es > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A fairly accurate number of birth records for 1938 March Births is 159607. Derived from 1057 pages in the Index for this quarter multiplied by 151 (entries per page) Why 151? Because 322 pages uploaded to date for this quarter realised 48670 entries (48670/322 = 151.15). The same could be done for the other quarters. Or is this a flawed way to calculate the totals? Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie" <freebmd@myarcher.net> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Progress Bar-charts not updated? The reason turns out to be that, for Births, we only have totals from the GRO up to 1937. For Marriages and Deaths we have the totals up to 1983. Since the graphs are percentages, not having the total makes it kinda difficult! I have no idea how we got the totals from the GRO but I will investigate. Barrie Richard Oliver wrote: > Someone is going to ask me this question in the next few hours, so can > someone else please help me with a ready answer? > > My Syndicate has been busying away at 1938 March Births for 6-7 weeks, and > we have collectively uploaded around 235 page files (35,000 records), > around 23% of the Quarter. And yet the chart at > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml#1930 suggests we haven't done > a stroke of work, and shows zero. > > The chart itself must be out of sync, as a random check - on just a couple > of records uploaded by me - shows they are indeed in the database. So how > come a discrepancy like that? > > Richard Oliver > Madrid, Spain > richol@arrakis.es > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The reason turns out to be that, for Births, we only have totals from the GRO up to 1937. For Marriages and Deaths we have the totals up to 1983. Since the graphs are percentages, not having the total makes it kinda difficult! I have no idea how we got the totals from the GRO but I will investigate. Barrie Richard Oliver wrote: > Someone is going to ask me this question in the next few hours, so can someone else please help me with a ready answer? > > My Syndicate has been busying away at 1938 March Births for 6-7 weeks, and we have collectively uploaded around 235 page files (35,000 records), around 23% of the Quarter. And yet the chart at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml#1930 suggests we haven't done a stroke of work, and shows zero. > > The chart itself must be out of sync, as a random check - on just a couple of records uploaded by me - shows they are indeed in the database. So how come a discrepancy like that? > > Richard Oliver > Madrid, Spain > richol@arrakis.es > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Thanks to a message off-list from Barrie the mystery has been resolved. A transcriber had labelled a file as 1922B2 whereas it was really from 1931B2. During this last month the transcriber corrected it. As it was the first page of a run, it had a few lines less than 150, to accommodate the letter at the top of the page. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie" <freebmd@myarcher.net> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Deleted transcriptions > http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/MissingFiles.html > > Barrie > > Jeff Coleman wrote: >> Is there any way that co-ordinators can discover any files that have been >> deleted from FreeBMD? >> >> I have a puzzling decrease of 147 entries in one quarter (1922B2) in my >> syndicate's latest 'Syndicate Information' since the last Update, as if >> one file has been deleted, but I can't immediately work out which. >> >> Short of doing a new upload report on the whole quarter, is there a way >> of discovering this? >> >> Jeff >> > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/MissingFiles.html Barrie Jeff Coleman wrote: > Is there any way that co-ordinators can discover any files that have been deleted from FreeBMD? > > I have a puzzling decrease of 147 entries in one quarter (1922B2) in my syndicate's latest 'Syndicate Information' since the last Update, as if one file has been deleted, but I can't immediately work out which. > > Short of doing a new upload report on the whole quarter, is there a way of discovering this? > > Jeff > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Someone is going to ask me this question in the next few hours, so can someone else please help me with a ready answer? My Syndicate has been busying away at 1938 March Births for 6-7 weeks, and we have collectively uploaded around 235 page files (35,000 records), around 23% of the Quarter. And yet the chart at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml#1930 suggests we haven't done a stroke of work, and shows zero. The chart itself must be out of sync, as a random check - on just a couple of records uploaded by me - shows they are indeed in the database. So how come a discrepancy like that? Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain richol@arrakis.es

Is there any way that co-ordinators can discover any files that have been deleted from FreeBMD? I have a puzzling decrease of 147 entries in one quarter (1922B2) in my syndicate's latest 'Syndicate Information' since the last Update, as if one file has been deleted, but I can't immediately work out which. Short of doing a new upload report on the whole quarter, is there a way of discovering this? Jeff

I am glad you and Richard have managed to find a way for Richard to read your files. However, it is important to note that doing it this way Richard must _not_ upload the the files using WinBMD (or edit the files using WinBMD). The character coding has not been converted and subtle errors can be introduced into the transcriptions. Barrie Hilary Wright wrote: Richard and I have solved the problem of compatibility between my Linux system and his windows systems and .bmd files. To understand the problem, here is a web page which explains things nicely, http://www.websiterepairguy.com/articles/os/crlf.html And here is a page which details the solution, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-unix-linux-convert-dos-newlines-cr-lf-unix-text-format/ I have installed the unix2dos program and written a small script which starts linBMD so that I can enter data and then converts the linBMD output using unix2dos into windows format. I attach the script in case anyone in the Linux world is interested. Open it in a text editor and modify as required for your installation. Thank you all for your help and comments. Hilary On Wed, 06 May 2009 06:49:18 -0400 Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Hi Hilary > > > > While yes it does fix the cr > > lf problem ir also add 4 characters at the > > start and one at the end to identify as a office > > file. WinBMD looks for the +INFO which must > > be the first characters in the file. > > > > +INFO,hilary.bh.wright@gmail.com,password,SEQUENCED,BIRTHS > > #,9z,Hilary Wright,Richard > > Oliver,1938B1C0212.bmd,03-May-2009,N,N,N,C,0 > > > > So this solution will not work > > > > FreeBMD and Wordpad have no problem with > > the Linux file It is just notepad and > > WinBMD. But any one witha PC can solve this > > by simply opening in Wordpad and resaving "Save > > As" this fixes the problem on the PC and is > > what I have always done. MAC files sent to > > me often have a similar problem. > > > > At 06/05/2009 01:37 AM, you wrote: > >> > >Hello Derek, >> > > >> > >Here is the linBMD file with CR+LF. I opened the file in OpenOffice >> > >which gave me the option of appending the CR+LF to every line, I then >> > >saved the file using OO and I have attached it to this mail. I can't >> > >tell, though, if the CR+LF has been saved too. >> > > >> > >Would you verify that it works in WinBMD? >> > > >> > >Thank you >> > > >> > >I have contacted the developer of linBMD, Andrew Higgs, and sent him >> > >Richard's errors. I will send him your comments about CR+LF. Maybe >> > >there is a configuration option he can use to set this. >> > > >> > >Regards >> > > >> > >Hilary >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 14:22:54 -0400 >> > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> > > >> >>> > > > Hi Hilary >>> > > > >>> > > > I was right. it is the end of line that is giving >>> > > > windows the problem. I had no problem in opening the file with >>> > > > Wordpad, but not with Notepad until I forced a save in Wordpad. >>> > > > >>> > > > It will not open in notepad but it will open correctly >>> > > > in wordpad. Then if saved with a blank added at the end of any >>> > > > line (just to force a new save) or a "Save As" with a new >>> > > > name it can be read by notepad and WinBMD on a Windows XP >>> > > > PC. >>> > > > >>> > > > Do you have an option in Linux to write the file with a >>> > > > CR LF as the line terminator. (Windows txt file format) I am >>> > > > contacting my Linux user to see if he knows. >>> > > > >>> > > > At 05/05/2009 02:07 PM, you wrote: >>> >>>> > > > >Hi Derek, >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >Thank you for your help. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >Here is the file as requested. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >Best regards >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >Hilary >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:06:12 -0400 >>>> > > > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> >>>>> > > > > > Hi Hilary >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > I have Linux ( Ubuntu) and XP-pro. Please send >>>>> > > > > > me the file in Question. And I will figure out what you have >>>>> > > > > > to do. >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > At 05/05/2009 11:55 AM, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> > > > > > >Dear Derek, >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >Richard Oliver gave me your email address because I recently >>>>>> > > > > > >joined his syndicate and I am having trouble producing a >>>>>> > > > > > >winBMD compatible file from my linux machine using LinBMD. >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >I will be contacting the developer of the linBMD software to >>>>>> > > > > > >ask him if he has any solution and I will provide him with >>>>>> > > > > > >the error messages Richard received. >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >In parallel, could you put in contact with someone in your >>>>>> > > > > > >syndicate who does run linux and is successfully producing >>>>>> > > > > > >compatible files so that I can ask them how its done? >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >Thank you for your help >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >Hilary in Castelnaudary. >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > Cheers Derek >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >>>>> > > > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax >>>>> > > > > > +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, >>>>> > > > > > E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death >>>>> > > > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >>>>> > > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page >>>>> > > > > > (revised daily) (Quebec Family History Society) >>>>> > > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, >>>>> > > > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page >>>>> > > > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Cheers Derek >>> > > > >>> > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >>> > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 >>> > > > Brossard, E-Mail >>> > > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. >>> > > > >>> > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death >>> > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> >>> > > > >>> > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >>> > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html >>> > > > >>> > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised >>> > > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) >>> > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html >>> > > > >>> > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, >>> > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> >>> > > > >>> > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page >>> > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> >>> > > > >>> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > > Brossard, E-Mail > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 > > names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa > > .html> > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Richard and I have solved the problem of compatibility between my Linux system and his windows systems and .bmd files. To understand the problem, here is a web page which explains things nicely, http://www.websiterepairguy.com/articles/os/crlf.html And here is a page which details the solution, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-unix-linux-convert-dos-newlines-cr-lf-unix-text-format/ I have installed the unix2dos program and written a small script which starts linBMD so that I can enter data and then converts the linBMD output using unix2dos into windows format. I attach the script in case anyone in the Linux world is interested. Open it in a text editor and modify as required for your installation. Thank you all for your help and comments. Hilary On Wed, 06 May 2009 06:49:18 -0400 Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Hilary > > While yes it does fix the cr > lf problem ir also add 4 characters at the > start and one at the end to identify as a office > file. WinBMD looks for the +INFO which must > be the first characters in the file. > > +INFO,hilary.bh.wright@gmail.com,password,SEQUENCED,BIRTHS > #,9z,Hilary Wright,Richard > Oliver,1938B1C0212.bmd,03-May-2009,N,N,N,C,0 > > So this solution will not work > > FreeBMD and Wordpad have no problem with > the Linux file It is just notepad and > WinBMD. But any one witha PC can solve this > by simply opening in Wordpad and resaving "Save > As" this fixes the problem on the PC and is > what I have always done. MAC files sent to > me often have a similar problem. > > At 06/05/2009 01:37 AM, you wrote: > >Hello Derek, > > > >Here is the linBMD file with CR+LF. I opened the file in OpenOffice > >which gave me the option of appending the CR+LF to every line, I then > >saved the file using OO and I have attached it to this mail. I can't > >tell, though, if the CR+LF has been saved too. > > > >Would you verify that it works in WinBMD? > > > >Thank you > > > >I have contacted the developer of linBMD, Andrew Higgs, and sent him > >Richard's errors. I will send him your comments about CR+LF. Maybe > >there is a configuration option he can use to set this. > > > >Regards > > > >Hilary > > > > > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 14:22:54 -0400 > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > Hi Hilary > > > > > > I was right. it is the end of line that is giving > > > windows the problem. I had no problem in opening the file with > > > Wordpad, but not with Notepad until I forced a save in Wordpad. > > > > > > It will not open in notepad but it will open correctly > > > in wordpad. Then if saved with a blank added at the end of any > > > line (just to force a new save) or a "Save As" with a new > > > name it can be read by notepad and WinBMD on a Windows XP > > > PC. > > > > > > Do you have an option in Linux to write the file with a > > > CR LF as the line terminator. (Windows txt file format) I am > > > contacting my Linux user to see if he knows. > > > > > > At 05/05/2009 02:07 PM, you wrote: > > > >Hi Derek, > > > > > > > >Thank you for your help. > > > > > > > >Here is the file as requested. > > > > > > > >Best regards > > > > > > > >Hilary > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:06:12 -0400 > > > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Hilary > > > > > > > > > > I have Linux ( Ubuntu) and XP-pro. Please send > > > > > me the file in Question. And I will figure out what you have > > > > > to do. > > > > > > > > > > At 05/05/2009 11:55 AM, you wrote: > > > > > >Dear Derek, > > > > > > > > > > > >Richard Oliver gave me your email address because I recently > > > > > >joined his syndicate and I am having trouble producing a > > > > > >winBMD compatible file from my linux machine using LinBMD. > > > > > > > > > > > >I will be contacting the developer of the linBMD software to > > > > > >ask him if he has any solution and I will provide him with > > > > > >the error messages Richard received. > > > > > > > > > > > >In parallel, could you put in contact with someone in your > > > > > >syndicate who does run linux and is successfully producing > > > > > >compatible files so that I can ask them how its done? > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for your help > > > > > > > > > > > >Hilary in Castelnaudary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > > > > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax > > > > > +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, > > > > > E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > > > > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page > > > > > (revised daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > > > > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, > > > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> > > > > > > > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > > > Brossard, E-Mail > > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> > > > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > Brossard, E-Mail > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 > names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa > .html> > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> >

Just a line of thanks to Derek, Barrie and the others who helped my new recruit adapt her Linux operating system, getting it to work with WinBMD, BMDVerify and the rest. Her submitterID is "dreamstogo" which seems very apt - and her transcribing technique is awesomely accurate too! Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain richol@arrakis.es

Whilst Wordpad will obviously work that does not help Hilary (who is using Linux) to send valid files to Richard (although it does help Richard). Actually the  at the start of the file is the Unicode Byte Order Mark (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode) so the problem is that OO is saving the file in Unicode (UTF-8) rather than ISO8859-1 as required by WinBMD. This happens because Linux saves the file in Unicode and presumably OO is just continuing with the existing encoding. If when saving the file in OO you select the type as "Text Encoded (.txt)" you get the option to select the encoding. Select Character Code as "Western Europe (ISO-8859-1)". That should do it! Barrie Derek C Hopkins wrote: > <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Hi Hilary > > While yes it does fix the cr lf problem ir also add 4 > characters at the start and one at the end to identify as a office > file. WinBMD looks for the +INFO which must be the first > characters in the file. > > +INFO,hilary.bh.wright@gmail.com,password,SEQUENCED,BIRTHS > #,9z,Hilary Wright,Richard Oliver,1938B1C0212.bmd,03-May-2009,N,N,N,C,0 > > So this solution will not work > > FreeBMD and Wordpad have no problem with the Linux file > It is just notepad and WinBMD. But any one witha PC can solve > this by simply opening in Wordpad and resaving "Save As" this > fixes the problem on the PC and is what I have always done. MAC > files sent to me often have a similar problem. > > At 06/05/2009 01:37 AM, you wrote: >> Hello Derek, >> >> Here is the linBMD file with CR+LF. I opened the file in OpenOffice >> which gave me the option of appending the CR+LF to every line, I then >> saved the file using OO and I have attached it to this mail. I can't >> tell, though, if the CR+LF has been saved too. >> >> Would you verify that it works in WinBMD? >> >> Thank you >> >> I have contacted the developer of linBMD, Andrew Higgs, and sent him >> Richard's errors. I will send him your comments about CR+LF. Maybe >> there is a configuration option he can use to set this. >> >> Regards >> >> Hilary >> >> >> >> On Tue, 05 May 2009 14:22:54 -0400 >> Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> > Hi Hilary >> > >> > I was right. it is the end of line that is giving windows >> > the problem. I had no problem in opening the file with Wordpad, but >> > not with Notepad until I forced a save in Wordpad. >> > >> > It will not open in notepad but it will open correctly in >> > wordpad. Then if saved with a blank added at the end of any >> > line (just to force a new save) or a "Save As" with a new >> > name it can be read by notepad and WinBMD on a Windows XP PC. >> > >> > Do you have an option in Linux to write the file with a CR >> > LF as the line terminator. (Windows txt file format) I am >> > contacting my Linux user to see if he knows. >> > >> > At 05/05/2009 02:07 PM, you wrote: >> > >Hi Derek, >> > > >> > >Thank you for your help. >> > > >> > >Here is the file as requested. >> > > >> > >Best regards >> > > >> > >Hilary >> > > >> > > >> > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:06:12 -0400 >> > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi Hilary >> > > > >> > > > I have Linux ( Ubuntu) and XP-pro. Please send me >> > > > the file in Question. And I will figure out what you have to do. >> > > > >> > > > At 05/05/2009 11:55 AM, you wrote: >> > > > >Dear Derek, >> > > > > >> > > > >Richard Oliver gave me your email address because I recently >> > > > >joined his syndicate and I am having trouble producing a winBMD >> > > > >compatible file from my linux machine using LinBMD. >> > > > > >> > > > >I will be contacting the developer of the linBMD software to ask >> > > > >him if he has any solution and I will provide him with the error >> > > > >messages Richard received. >> > > > > >> > > > >In parallel, could you put in contact with someone in your >> > > > >syndicate who does run linux and is successfully producing >> > > > >compatible files so that I can ask them how its done? >> > > > > >> > > > >Thank you for your help >> > > > > >> > > > >Hilary in Castelnaudary. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Cheers Derek >> > > > >> > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >> > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 >> > > > Brossard, E-Mail >> > > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. >> > > > >> > > > == FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death >> > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> >> > > > >> > > > == Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >> > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html >> > > > >> > > > == Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised >> > > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) >> > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html >> > > > >> > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, >> > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> >> > > > >> > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page >> > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > Cheers Derek >> > >> > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >> > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 >> > Brossard, E-Mail >> > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. >> > >> > == FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death >> > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> >> > >> > == Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >> > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html >> > >> > == Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised >> > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) >> > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html >> > >> > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 >> > names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> >> > >> > Check out the Quebec Family History web page >> > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> >> > >> >> > > > Cheers Derek > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > Brossard, E-Mail > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca > QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > == FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > Transcriptions > <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > == Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > == Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised daily) > (Quebec Family History Society) > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 > names) > <http://scan2.ca/nlisa > .html> > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > </div> > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Hi Derek, Thank you for your feedback. So, the OO route is not OK. As I said to Richard this morning, I do not think that it should be up to the recipient of a file to "correct" it for his platform. It should just work. I have sent emails to Andrew Higgs, the developer of LinBMD, o ask him what he thinks of this. I am waiting for his reply. Your confirmation that FreeBMD has no problem is interesting. Again, thank you for your help. Hilary On Wed, 06 May 2009 06:49:18 -0400 Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Hilary > > While yes it does fix the cr > lf problem ir also add 4 characters at the > start and one at the end to identify as a office > file. WinBMD looks for the +INFO which must > be the first characters in the file. > > +INFO,hilary.bh.wright@gmail.com,password,SEQUENCED,BIRTHS > #,9z,Hilary Wright,Richard > Oliver,1938B1C0212.bmd,03-May-2009,N,N,N,C,0 > > So this solution will not work > > FreeBMD and Wordpad have no problem with > the Linux file It is just notepad and > WinBMD. But any one witha PC can solve this > by simply opening in Wordpad and resaving "Save > As" this fixes the problem on the PC and is > what I have always done. MAC files sent to > me often have a similar problem. > > At 06/05/2009 01:37 AM, you wrote: > >Hello Derek, > > > >Here is the linBMD file with CR+LF. I opened the file in OpenOffice > >which gave me the option of appending the CR+LF to every line, I then > >saved the file using OO and I have attached it to this mail. I can't > >tell, though, if the CR+LF has been saved too. > > > >Would you verify that it works in WinBMD? > > > >Thank you > > > >I have contacted the developer of linBMD, Andrew Higgs, and sent him > >Richard's errors. I will send him your comments about CR+LF. Maybe > >there is a configuration option he can use to set this. > > > >Regards > > > >Hilary > > > > > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 14:22:54 -0400 > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > Hi Hilary > > > > > > I was right. it is the end of line that is giving > > > windows the problem. I had no problem in opening the file with > > > Wordpad, but not with Notepad until I forced a save in Wordpad. > > > > > > It will not open in notepad but it will open correctly > > > in wordpad. Then if saved with a blank added at the end of any > > > line (just to force a new save) or a "Save As" with a new > > > name it can be read by notepad and WinBMD on a Windows XP > > > PC. > > > > > > Do you have an option in Linux to write the file with a > > > CR LF as the line terminator. (Windows txt file format) I am > > > contacting my Linux user to see if he knows. > > > > > > At 05/05/2009 02:07 PM, you wrote: > > > >Hi Derek, > > > > > > > >Thank you for your help. > > > > > > > >Here is the file as requested. > > > > > > > >Best regards > > > > > > > >Hilary > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:06:12 -0400 > > > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Hilary > > > > > > > > > > I have Linux ( Ubuntu) and XP-pro. Please send > > > > > me the file in Question. And I will figure out what you have > > > > > to do. > > > > > > > > > > At 05/05/2009 11:55 AM, you wrote: > > > > > >Dear Derek, > > > > > > > > > > > >Richard Oliver gave me your email address because I recently > > > > > >joined his syndicate and I am having trouble producing a > > > > > >winBMD compatible file from my linux machine using LinBMD. > > > > > > > > > > > >I will be contacting the developer of the linBMD software to > > > > > >ask him if he has any solution and I will provide him with > > > > > >the error messages Richard received. > > > > > > > > > > > >In parallel, could you put in contact with someone in your > > > > > >syndicate who does run linux and is successfully producing > > > > > >compatible files so that I can ask them how its done? > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for your help > > > > > > > > > > > >Hilary in Castelnaudary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > > > > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax > > > > > +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, > > > > > E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > > > > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page > > > > > (revised daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > > > > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, > > > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> > > > > > > > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > > > Brossard, E-Mail > > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> > > > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > Brossard, E-Mail > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 > names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa > .html> > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> >

Notepad does not accept UNIX end of line convention so it is useless in this context. Whilst Wordpad can indeed add formatting information if used as I suggested it does work. The key is to use Save As "Text document" which happens automatically if there is no extension or the extension is .BMD. There are numerous other ways of doing the conversion (I use unix2dos) but using Wordpad is the simplest way I know that avoids having to acquire additional software. Barrie Brian Smart wrote: > Hello Barrie, > WordPad is also very capable of adding other formatting that make the file > completely useless. The only safe way is to use Notepad. > Regards > > Brian Smart > > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barrie > Sent: 05 May 2009 09:10 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: "Linux" > > Open the file in Wordpad and then save it. This will convert the Unix > end of line (LF) to Windows end of line (CR/LF) and you will then be > able to open the file in WinBMD. > > Wordpad is a standard utility on Windows. To run it go to Start/Run and > type wordpad. > > Barrie > > P.S. There are basically three operating systems in use (Windows, MacOS > and Unixes) and they each use a different end of line convention. Given > that there are only three possible ways to do end of line (with the > characters CR and LF), one could consider this something of an > achievement for the computer industry! > >> A new recruit to my Syndicate, quite promising in all other respects, has >> > a computer operating with Linux (whatever that may be) and is using "LinBMD" > for transcribing. I have normal Windows Vista and WinBMD. > >> The upshot is that I am unable to open a file sent to me for checking, and >> > cannot use BMDVerify on it. Can anyone suggest a solution for this > incompatibility, or must I tell the person concerned to get lost? > >> Richard Oliver >> Syndicate Co-ordinator >> Madrid, Spain >> richol@arrakis.es >> >> > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Hi Hilary While yes it does fix the cr lf problem ir also add 4 characters at the start and one at the end to identify as a office file. WinBMD looks for the +INFO which must be the first characters in the file. +INFO,hilary.bh.wright@gmail.com,password,SEQUENCED,BIRTHS #,9z,Hilary Wright,Richard Oliver,1938B1C0212.bmd,03-May-2009,N,N,N,C,0 So this solution will not work FreeBMD and Wordpad have no problem with the Linux file It is just notepad and WinBMD. But any one witha PC can solve this by simply opening in Wordpad and resaving "Save As" this fixes the problem on the PC and is what I have always done. MAC files sent to me often have a similar problem. At 06/05/2009 01:37 AM, you wrote: >Hello Derek, > >Here is the linBMD file with CR+LF. I opened the file in OpenOffice >which gave me the option of appending the CR+LF to every line, I then >saved the file using OO and I have attached it to this mail. I can't >tell, though, if the CR+LF has been saved too. > >Would you verify that it works in WinBMD? > >Thank you > >I have contacted the developer of linBMD, Andrew Higgs, and sent him >Richard's errors. I will send him your comments about CR+LF. Maybe >there is a configuration option he can use to set this. > >Regards > >Hilary > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 14:22:54 -0400 >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > Hi Hilary > > > > I was right. it is the end of line that is giving windows > > the problem. I had no problem in opening the file with Wordpad, but > > not with Notepad until I forced a save in Wordpad. > > > > It will not open in notepad but it will open correctly in > > wordpad. Then if saved with a blank added at the end of any > > line (just to force a new save) or a "Save As" with a new > > name it can be read by notepad and WinBMD on a Windows XP PC. > > > > Do you have an option in Linux to write the file with a CR > > LF as the line terminator. (Windows txt file format) I am > > contacting my Linux user to see if he knows. > > > > At 05/05/2009 02:07 PM, you wrote: > > >Hi Derek, > > > > > >Thank you for your help. > > > > > >Here is the file as requested. > > > > > >Best regards > > > > > >Hilary > > > > > > > > >On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:06:12 -0400 > > >Derek C Hopkins <derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Hilary > > > > > > > > I have Linux ( Ubuntu) and XP-pro. Please send me > > > > the file in Question. And I will figure out what you have to do. > > > > > > > > At 05/05/2009 11:55 AM, you wrote: > > > > >Dear Derek, > > > > > > > > > >Richard Oliver gave me your email address because I recently > > > > >joined his syndicate and I am having trouble producing a winBMD > > > > >compatible file from my linux machine using LinBMD. > > > > > > > > > >I will be contacting the developer of the linBMD software to ask > > > > >him if he has any solution and I will provide him with the error > > > > >messages Richard received. > > > > > > > > > >In parallel, could you put in contact with someone in your > > > > >syndicate who does run linux and is successfully producing > > > > >compatible files so that I can ask them how its done? > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for your help > > > > > > > > > >Hilary in Castelnaudary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > > > > Brossard, E-Mail > > > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > > > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, > > > > 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> > > > > > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Derek > > > > Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 > > 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 > > Brossard, E-Mail > > derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > > > > ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death > > Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > > > > ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html > > > > ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised > > daily) (Quebec Family History Society) > > Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html > > > > Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 > > names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa> .html> > > > > Check out the Quebec Family History web page > > <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html> > > > > Cheers Derek Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised daily) (Quebec Family History Society) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa .html> Check out the Quebec Family History web page <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html>

Hello Barrie, WordPad is also very capable of adding other formatting that make the file completely useless. The only safe way is to use Notepad. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barrie Sent: 05 May 2009 09:10 To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: "Linux" Open the file in Wordpad and then save it. This will convert the Unix end of line (LF) to Windows end of line (CR/LF) and you will then be able to open the file in WinBMD. Wordpad is a standard utility on Windows. To run it go to Start/Run and type wordpad. Barrie P.S. There are basically three operating systems in use (Windows, MacOS and Unixes) and they each use a different end of line convention. Given that there are only three possible ways to do end of line (with the characters CR and LF), one could consider this something of an achievement for the computer industry! > A new recruit to my Syndicate, quite promising in all other respects, has a computer operating with Linux (whatever that may be) and is using "LinBMD" for transcribing. I have normal Windows Vista and WinBMD. > > The upshot is that I am unable to open a file sent to me for checking, and cannot use BMDVerify on it. Can anyone suggest a solution for this incompatibility, or must I tell the person concerned to get lost? > > Richard Oliver > Syndicate Co-ordinator > Madrid, Spain > richol@arrakis.es > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner-- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Open the file in Wordpad and then save it. This will convert the Unix end of line (LF) to Windows end of line (CR/LF) and you will then be able to open the file in WinBMD. Wordpad is a standard utility on Windows. To run it go to Start/Run and type wordpad. Barrie P.S. There are basically three operating systems in use (Windows, MacOS and Unixes) and they each use a different end of line convention. Given that there are only three possible ways to do end of line (with the characters CR and LF), one could consider this something of an achievement for the computer industry! > A new recruit to my Syndicate, quite promising in all other respects, has a computer operating with Linux (whatever that may be) and is using "LinBMD" for transcribing. I have normal Windows Vista and WinBMD. > > The upshot is that I am unable to open a file sent to me for checking, and cannot use BMDVerify on it. Can anyone suggest a solution for this incompatibility, or must I tell the person concerned to get lost? > > Richard Oliver > Syndicate Co-ordinator > Madrid, Spain > richol@arrakis.es > --Certified Virus Free by 4SecureMail.com ICSA-Certified Scanner--

Hello Richard I have no experience of Linux but I guess the problem is that the file sent to you for checking does not have a .BMD extension. In other respects the file should be the same composition as a typical Windows type WinBMD file. I suggest you save the file sent to you. Next in Windows Explorer (My Computer) rename the file from, for example 1897B1X0055 to 1897B1X0055.BMD Or you could open the original file 1897B1X0055 in Notepad and resave it as 1897B1X0055.BMD which would give you the confidence that all is well because you could see the file is OK in notepad. good luck Bob Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Oliver To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 14:05 Subject: "Linux" A new recruit to my Syndicate, quite promising in all other respects, has a computer operating with Linux (whatever that may be) and is using "LinBMD" for transcribing. I have normal Windows Vista and WinBMD. The upshot is that I am unable to open a file sent to me for checking, and cannot use BMDVerify on it. Can anyone suggest a solution for this incompatibility, or must I tell the person concerned to get lost? Richard Oliver Syndicate Co-ordinator Madrid, Spain richol@arrakis.es ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message