If you are saying that the scans (i.e. images of the pages) are different then that has nothing to do with OCR which converts images into text. If the 1837 scan had been passed through OCR it would no longer be a scan. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Simpson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 30 June 2004 22:24 > To: [email protected] > Subject: 1837 Web Site > > > A transcriber of mine has been checking some amendments with > the 1837 website and has found that one entry on the freebmd > scan reads 336, whilst on the 1837 website scan it read 836. > Now from keeping a record of previous page numbers 336 would > fit within the range. But can somebody tell me if the 1837 > scanned pages have been passed through an OCR SCANNER, > because if they have this might expalin why 836 is shown. thanks Keith > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=> 4930&sourceid=1237 >

For anyone who has access to the Microsoft Windows XP magazine issue 34 the cover disc includes ABF IE tools including Alternatiff. It works and I can now use http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl Great ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > Hi Mary, > What you say here is not entirely correct. It *is* possible to open a scan in IE 6 under XP Pro via the general public link IF you have the "Alternatiff" scan viewer that I mentioned in my previous email. Having opened it on screen it is also then possible to save it to disc. > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Trevan > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been > praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. > > The new route available to the general public which uses page > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > downloading the image. > > This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the > mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on > the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and > it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different > per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using > another browser!) > > And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went > live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers > to help solve my 'problem' :o) > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > Hi Ted, > > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner > you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc > by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is > also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan > viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to > IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - > it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level > of zoom) but it works fine for me. > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all > graphics > > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened > with > > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded > file > > directly to Internet Explorer > > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to > a > > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain > that > > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > > arrives ? > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ted > > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > > Click on File Types tab > > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > > Click on Ok > > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ted Southcombe > > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer > here - > > the > > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home > SP1. > > I > > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > > Ted Southcombe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and > one > > can > > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most > file > > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please > send > > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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A transcriber of mine has been checking some amendments with the 1837 website and has found that one entry on the freebmd scan reads 336, whilst on the 1837 website scan it read 836. Now from keeping a record of previous page numbers 336 would fit within the range. But can somebody tell me if the 1837 scanned pages have been passed through an OCR SCANNER, because if they have this might expalin why 836 is shown. thanks Keith

Hi Ian Thanks for that, but it seems that it doesn't work on my configuration for the public interface :o( although it *does* work for the transcibers interface :o) .... and I do not intend to even attempt to work out why! It did not install exactly 'as advertised' (i.e. I did not see the sample security window) and when I use chose.pl on TIFF files (eg my latest allocation from you in 1840B1) all I see is a grey page with the Alernatiff icons above it rather than the TIF image. Even after following the link they provide (If AlternaTIFF works here but not on other web pages, click here to reactivate it.) the result is the same. Using the 'View Image' menu option gives a "The page cannot be displayed' type of page. However going the transcribers route through the GUS structure to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/GUS/1840/Births/March/UKD-02/A-L/1840B1-B-0407.tif results in a nice display that can be read without needing to resize it (as is needed with the GIF files that I found that can be displayed by my version of Internet Explorer on my version of Windows XP). Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Brooke To: Mary Trevan ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:49 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP Hi Mary, Actually I couldn't remember where I got it from at the time but I should have looked it up, sorry. http://www.alternatiff.com and it is very quick and easy. I've had no problems with it at all (in fact you can't even tell it's there until you click on a tiff in your browser) - I haven't however looked into how to uninstall it should I ever need to. Regards Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Trevan To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:20 AM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP Hi Ian I stand corrected! I stopped reading when I reached the sentence "You can however definitely download the scans to disc by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As"." because my browser does not get as far as this. Instead of a page link with a "Save Taregt As" option or a pop-up window with a choice of Open or Save, all I get is a window with an icon that usually represents a broken link. You didn't say where you found Alternatiff - if it's quick and easy I might install it. Regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > Hi Mary, > What you say here is not entirely correct. It *is* possible to open a scan in IE 6 under XP Pro via the general public link IF you have the "Alternatiff" scan viewer that I mentioned in my previous email. Having opened it on screen it is also then possible to save it to disc. > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Trevan > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been > praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. > > The new route available to the general public which uses page > http://images.freebmdorg.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > downloading the image. > > This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the > mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on > the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and > it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different > per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using > another browser!) > > And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went > live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers > to help solve my 'problem' :o) > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > Hi Ted, > > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner > you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc > by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is > also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan > viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to > IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - > it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level > of zoom) but it works fine for me. > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all > graphics > > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened > with > > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded > file > > directly to Internet Explorer > > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to > a > > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain > that > > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > > arrives ? > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ted > > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > > Click on File Types tab > > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > > Click on Ok > > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ted Southcombe > > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer > here - > > the > > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home > SP1. > > I > > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > > Ted Southcombe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and > one > > can > > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most > file > > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please > send > > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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In message <[email protected]>, Ian Brooke <[email protected]> writes >Hi Mary, >Actually I couldn't remember where I got it from at the time but I >should have looked it up, sorry. http://www.alternatiff.com and it is >very quick and easy. I've had no problems with it at all (in fact you >can't even tell it's there until you click on a tiff in your browser) - >I haven't however looked into how to uninstall it should I ever need to. Ian - thanks for that. I had exactly the same problem as Mary when trying the new link but it d/l perfectly with Alternatiff. -- Philip Powell Looking north across the Derwent Valley and Northumberland to The Cheviot

Hi Ian I stand corrected! I stopped reading when I reached the sentence "You can however definitely download the scans to disc by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As"." because my browser does not get as far as this. Instead of a page link with a "Save Taregt As" option or a pop-up window with a choice of Open or Save, all I get is a window with an icon that usually represents a broken link. You didn't say where you found Alternatiff - if it's quick and easy I might install it. Regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > Hi Mary, > What you say here is not entirely correct. It *is* possible to open a scan in IE 6 under XP Pro via the general public link IF you have the "Alternatiff" scan viewer that I mentioned in my previous email. Having opened it on screen it is also then possible to save it to disc. > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Trevan > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been > praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. > > The new route available to the general public which uses page > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > downloading the image. > > This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the > mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on > the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and > it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different > per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using > another browser!) > > And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went > live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers > to help solve my 'problem' :o) > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > Hi Ted, > > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner > you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc > by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is > also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan > viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to > IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - > it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level > of zoom) but it works fine for me. > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all > graphics > > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened > with > > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded > file > > directly to Internet Explorer > > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to > a > > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain > that > > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > > arrives ? > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ted > > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > > Click on File Types tab > > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > > Click on Ok > > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ted Southcombe > > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer > here - > > the > > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home > SP1. > > I > > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > > Ted Southcombe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and > one > > can > > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most > file > > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please > send > > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Mary, Actually I couldn't remember where I got it from at the time but I should have looked it up, sorry. http://www.alternatiff.com and it is very quick and easy. I've had no problems with it at all (in fact you can't even tell it's there until you click on a tiff in your browser) - I haven't however looked into how to uninstall it should I ever need to. Regards Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Trevan To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:20 AM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP Hi Ian I stand corrected! I stopped reading when I reached the sentence "You can however definitely download the scans to disc by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As"." because my browser does not get as far as this. Instead of a page link with a "Save Taregt As" option or a pop-up window with a choice of Open or Save, all I get is a window with an icon that usually represents a broken link. You didn't say where you found Alternatiff - if it's quick and easy I might install it. Regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > Hi Mary, > What you say here is not entirely correct. It *is* possible to open a scan in IE 6 under XP Pro via the general public link IF you have the "Alternatiff" scan viewer that I mentioned in my previous email. Having opened it on screen it is also then possible to save it to disc. > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Trevan > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been > praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. > > The new route available to the general public which uses page > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > downloading the image. > > This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the > mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on > the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and > it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different > per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using > another browser!) > > And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went > live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers > to help solve my 'problem' :o) > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > Hi Ted, > > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner > you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc > by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is > also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan > viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to > IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - > it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level > of zoom) but it works fine for me. > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all > graphics > > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened > with > > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded > file > > directly to Internet Explorer > > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to > a > > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain > that > > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > > arrives ? > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ted > > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > > Click on File Types tab > > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > > Click on Ok > > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ted Southcombe > > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer > here - > > the > > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home > SP1. > > I > > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > > Ted Southcombe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and > one > > can > > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most > file > > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please > send > > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Just tried downloading 1887b1280.tif this morning . Using XP SP1, IE 6+SP and latest mods. No problem IE downloaded to a temporary file and displayed the image on Infranview without any fiddling from me. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mayall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:41:02 +0100, you wrote: > > >Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all graphics > >files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > >Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened with > >no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded file > >directly to Internet Explorer > >that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to a > >folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain that > >I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > > >I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > >own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > >arrives ? > > Possibly (I've seen a presentation on SP2 today) > > We will get a solution quicker. > > -- > Dave Mayall > > ______________________________

Hi Jeff > Doesn't everybody get this? No You must be using a later version of WinXP where the problem does not exist. I am using a version where it does exist. I do *not* get the dialogue box you describe. This is the bug and full details are available in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 319829 "Cannot Open a Tagged Information File Format (TIFF) File in Internet Explorer" on the http://support.microsoft.com/ site HTH Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> To: "Mary Trevan" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:14 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > I am a bit puzzled by Mary's comment. > > Using http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl in WinXP and looking for > an image, when I eventually click on the page I want and 'submit query' I > get a dialogue box ' headed 'File Download' and offering buttons for 'Open', > Save', Cancel', 'More Info' which is a standard IE6 dialogue box. > > Is this just because I have been downloading images using the transcriber > route already today? > > Doesn't everybody get this? > > Jeff > > The new route available to the general public which uses page > > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > > downloading the image. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 27/06/2004 >

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:14:29 +0100, you wrote: >I am a bit puzzled by Mary's comment. > >Using http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl in WinXP and looking for >an image, when I eventually click on the page I want and 'submit query' I >get a dialogue box ' headed 'File Download' and offering buttons for 'Open', >Save', Cancel', 'More Info' which is a standard IE6 dialogue box. > >Is this just because I have been downloading images using the transcriber >route already today? > >Doesn't everybody get this? No. It depends on service packs, patches etc. We are working on the solution. -- Dave Mayall

Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. The new route available to the general public which uses page http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of downloading the image. This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using another browser!) And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers to help solve my 'problem' :o) Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > Hi Ted, > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level of zoom) but it works fine for me. > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Southcombe > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all graphics > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened with > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded file > directly to Internet Explorer > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to a > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain that > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > arrives ? > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Hello Ted > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > Click on File Types tab > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > Click on Ok > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > Garry > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer here - > the > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home SP1. > I > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > Ted Southcombe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and one > can > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most file > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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I am a bit puzzled by Mary's comment. Using http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl in WinXP and looking for an image, when I eventually click on the page I want and 'submit query' I get a dialogue box ' headed 'File Download' and offering buttons for 'Open', Save', Cancel', 'More Info' which is a standard IE6 dialogue box. Is this just because I have been downloading images using the transcriber route already today? Doesn't everybody get this? Jeff > The new route available to the general public which uses page > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > downloading the image. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 27/06/2004

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:41:02 +0100, you wrote: >Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all graphics >files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. >Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened with >no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded file >directly to Internet Explorer >that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to a >folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain that >I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > >I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their >own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually >arrives ? Possibly (I've seen a presentation on SP2 today) We will get a solution quicker. -- Dave Mayall

Glad to hear you use IrfanView it's what we've recommended on the Transcription Software and Add-ons Web Page at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/addons/ for as long as I can remember. Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: Kiwiz <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 28 June 2004 10:36 Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files >For those having trouble with tiff files. >This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and one can flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most file types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. >http://www.irfanview.com/ > >Garry >Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > >==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== >Thank you Rootsweb for hosting the FreeBMD project and its mailing lists. See http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all graphics files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened with no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded file directly to Internet Explorer that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to a folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain that I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually arrives ? Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > Hello Ted > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > Click on File Types tab > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > Click on Ok > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > Garry > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Southcombe > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer here - the > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home SP1. I > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > downloads using the existing procedure. > Ted Southcombe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and one can > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most file > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > Garry > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Mary: I believe that the problem you are describing is not unique to Internet Explorer and Windows OS. I am a Mac user and the same problem exists. It is reminiscent of the problems that existed (and may still exist) for Mac users when the 1901 census went on line. Other browsers, such as Safari, DO work for Macs. On a more basic level I believe that requiring the general public to click through multiple windows to get at the data files and then have to guess at which image one wants does a real disservice to the image of freeBMD. The argument presented by Dave, that more exposure to ads is needed, is simply not a very good business model. Make access inconvenient and people just won't bother. Peter Adams On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Mary Trevan wrote: > Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been > praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. > > The new route available to the general public which uses page > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of > downloading the image. > > This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the > mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on > the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and > it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different > per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using > another browser!) > > And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went > live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers > to help solve my 'problem' :o) > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > Hi Ted, > > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner > you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc > by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is > also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan > viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to > IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - > it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level > of zoom) but it works fine for me. > > Ian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all > graphics > > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened > with > > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded > file > > directly to Internet Explorer > > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to > a > > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain > that > > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > > arrives ? > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ted > > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > > Click on File Types tab > > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > > Click on Ok > > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ted Southcombe > > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer > here - > > the > > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home > SP1. > > I > > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > > Ted Southcombe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and > one > > can > > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most > file > > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please > send > > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > Want to help FreeBMD? > > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Mary, What you say here is not entirely correct. It *is* possible to open a scan in IE 6 under XP Pro via the general public link IF you have the "Alternatiff" scan viewer that I mentioned in my previous email. Having opened it on screen it is also then possible to save it to disc. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Trevan To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP Sorry Ian, but like several other helpful people on this list who have been praising Irfanview, you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. The new route available to the general public which uses page http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl does *not* provide any way of downloading the image. This does *not* affect the existing mechanism for transcribers, just the mechanism for the general public to view the scans using the new button on the home page. The reason for the problem is a bug in Internet Explorer and it affects a number of version of OS, including XP. The fixes are different per OS, but for XP it requires an upgrade of XP itself (or change to using another browser!) And since I was only trying it to test out the new software before it went live, I do not need to fix the problem on my PC, so please, no more offers to help solve my 'problem' :o) Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > Hi Ted, > I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level of zoom) but it works fine for me. > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Southcombe > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all graphics > files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. > Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened with > no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded file > directly to Internet Explorer > that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to a > folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain that > I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. > > I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their > own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually > arrives ? > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM > Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > > > > > Hello Ted > > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > > Click on File Types tab > > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > > Click on Ok > > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > > > Garry > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ted Southcombe > > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer here - > the > > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home SP1. > I > > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > > downloads using the existing procedure. > > Ted Southcombe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and one > can > > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most file > > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > > > Garry > > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send > the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Ted, I also have problems using XP Pro and I can't open the scans in the manner you describe either. You can however definitely download the scans to disc by right-clicking on the page link and selecting "Save Target As". It is also possible to open them 'on screen' but only by using a different scan viewer - there's one called "Alternatiff" which can add it's own toolbar to IE and when you click on a tiff in IE the new viewer opens and displays it - it's not as good as Irfan though (it only has 90 degree rotates and 1 level of zoom) but it works fine for me. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Southcombe To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: Re: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP Sorry Garry, but there is a deeper problem. I have always had all graphics files including TIF and TIFF associated with Irfanview in File Types. Downloads from the existing Scan Source site have always opened opened with no problems. It's just the new procedure which sends the downloaded file directly to Internet Explorer that causes problems as there is no step to save the downloading file to a folder. I gather from correspondance here and on Soc.genealogy.britain that I'm not the only one experiancing this diffilulty. I'm happy to wait until Dave and his team resolve the situation in their own time. Maybe XP SP2 will resolve these problems when it eventually arrives ? Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:31 AM Subject: How to View TIF/TIFF files in XP > > Hello Ted > I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; > Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START > On Menu select Tools - Folder Options > Click on File Types tab > Scroll down to TIF under Extensions > Select Change (TIFF will change too) > You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it > If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview > Click on Ok > Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview > > also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options > > Garry > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Southcombe > To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM > Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files > Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer here - the > downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home SP1. I > have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including > downloads using the existing procedure. > Ted Southcombe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM > Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > > > For those having trouble with tiff files. > > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and one can > flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most file > types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > > > Garry > > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== Want to help FreeBMD? Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello Ted I have XP-PRO SP1 and you can make XP open tifs with Irfranview; Open Explorer - RIGHT-click on START On Menu select Tools - Folder Options Click on File Types tab Scroll down to TIF under Extensions Select Change (TIFF will change too) You should have Irfranview as a choice - select it If it's not there go Browse and find Irfranview Click on Ok Open a tif file from FreeBMD and it should open in Irfranview also applies to Win98,Mil,2000 with slight variations in options Garry Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Southcombe To: Kiwiz ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:17 AM Subject: Re: Viewing Tif/tiff files Yes, Irfanview is great and I use it. But it's not the answer here - the downloads won't open in my Internet Explorer running under XP Home SP1. I have no problems with TIF, TIFF files in any other respect including downloads using the existing procedure. Ted Southcombe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiwiz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:36 AM Subject: Viewing Tif/tiff files > For those having trouble with tiff files. > This Viewer is my favorite for viewing scans, it's easy to use and one can flick backwards and forwards to other scans quickly. It views most file types and downloads in 2 mins @ 56k. > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > Garry > Kiwiz Syndicate Co-ordinator

In message <[email protected]>, Dave Mayall <[email protected]> writes >On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:56:41 +0100, you wrote: > >>Dear All, >> >> >> >>I don’t use AOL, and have trouble instructing new members how to download or >>save files using AOL. I would simply right click on my mouse, as use “Save >>Target As”, then would navigate through my pc to the WinBMD folder, but >>apparently this option is not available to AOL users. >> >> >> >>Please could someone give me clear, idiot-proof instructions that I can pass >>to newbie’s who use AOL. > >One is tempted to suggest that the simplest, most idiot proof >instruction would be; > >"Dump AOL and get an ISP that works the same as the rest of the world" > While agreeing that that would be the best instruction, I'd also like to know if there is a simple solution so as not to lose a new transcriber. Surely there must be an AOL user who has solved the problem? -- Philip Powell Looking north across the Derwent Valley and Northumberland to The Cheviot