The Suspect Files list at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html now contains the syndicate(s) of the transcriber. I would like to express my thanks to everyone for the work done on addressing these anomolies, especially, of course, Allan Raymond who must have put in many hours of work. I do have certain qualms when I find new ways of doing the quality check because I known that when I incorporate them into the Suspect Files process it means work for other people! As a matter of interest I would be quite interested to hear (probably from Allan) what the percentage is of wrong content against wrong filename. Whilst getting the filename right has real benefits, getting the content right is even more important. Barrie

Kevin: A Peter Hendy-Ibbs is listed on several web sites as having improperly performed surgery on some women, causing one death. If this is the Peter Hendy-Ibbs you are searching for, is seems possible that he doesn't wish to be found! Regards, Peter Adams On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Kevin S. Howell wrote: > People, > Apologies for using these lists for this pupose, but I am trying to contact > Peter Hendy-Idds, but emails to > [email protected] > are bouncing. > > Does anyone have any alternate addresses which I could try? > > Thanks in advance > Kevin Howell > FreeBMD Corrections Coordinator. > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Steve A fair amount of double keying is taking place at the moment and therefore in theory it may not possible in all cases to identify from the file name (or quarter etc) which syndicate the transcriber belongs to. Following the comments of Ian and Michael I will produce a cross check list of SubmitterID against Co-ordinator via a manual system until such time as an automatic system is provided. I'll try and produce a list within the next day or so. Purely from the file names I can already say a large number of files belong to one Syndicate. Allan Raymond Steve Gaunt <[email protected]> wrote:Surely the syndicate the transcriber belongs to can be identified by the quarter the suspect file belongs to (provided the suspicion doesn't lie with a wrongly named file!) steve gaunt Croscan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mayall" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Suspect files > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:29:08 -0600, you wrote: > > >Hi Allan, > >I saw your recent reply to a question on whether this report can show syndicate names, and perhaps it is too complicated where people are members of multiple syndicates but I really do find it difficult (and very time consuming) going through this list looking for names that could belong to my syndicate, and how syndicates the size of Scan2 cope I really don't know. > > > >I hate suggesting further work for people but do you think there is mileage in asking someone to investigate changing this facility so that it does show the syndicate(s)? I doubt many people are members of more than two or three syndicates and it wouldn't overly complicate the look of the report to list that number at the end of each entry. > > I'll take a look at the code. > > -- > Dave Mayall > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== To find out about the FreeBMD project please start at http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 Allan Raymond Monarchies of Europe Web Site at http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Monarchies_of_Europe.htm)

Hi Allan I would like to know your process please Thanks T

Surely the syndicate the transcriber belongs to can be indentified by the quarter the suspect file belongs to (provided the suspicion doesn't lie with a wrongly named file!) steve gaunt Croscan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mayall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Suspect files > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:29:08 -0600, you wrote: > > >Hi Allan, > >I saw your recent reply to a question on whether this report can show syndicate names, and perhaps it is too complicated where people are members of multiple syndicates but I really do find it difficult (and very time consuming) going through this list looking for names that could belong to my syndicate, and how syndicates the size of Scan2 cope I really don't know. > > > >I hate suggesting further work for people but do you think there is mileage in asking someone to investigate changing this facility so that it does show the syndicate(s)? I doubt many people are members of more than two or three syndicates and it wouldn't overly complicate the look of the report to list that number at the end of each entry. > > I'll take a look at the code. > > -- > Dave Mayall > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:29:08 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Allan, >I saw your recent reply to a question on whether this report can show syndicate names, and perhaps it is too complicated where people are members of multiple syndicates but I really do find it difficult (and very time consuming) going through this list looking for names that could belong to my syndicate, and how syndicates the size of Scan2 cope I really don't know. > >I hate suggesting further work for people but do you think there is mileage in asking someone to investigate changing this facility so that it does show the syndicate(s)? I doubt many people are members of more than two or three syndicates and it wouldn't overly complicate the look of the report to list that number at the end of each entry. I'll take a look at the code. -- Dave Mayall

Hi Ian For those Co-ordinators who find it difficult and time consuming to check the list I would suggest they hang fire for a while whilst I get the figures down to more manageable numbers. I'm in the fortunate position of being able to pick up with a fair degree of certainty which files are transcribed by which Syndicate purely by the way the files are named. I can already tell that one Syndicate Co-ordinator must be actively involved in correcting large numbers of files in the Suspect Report, this has already made a big dent in the number of files showing on the Suspect Report. If one of our IT experts can add the Syndicate name then I would be an happy bunny although as you can gather my need of it is far less than that required by Co-ordinators. My response to the query about adding Syndicate names also included details about using Upload Report to its full extent. It's a tremendous facility which Co-ordinators were crying out for quite a while ago and with a lot of sweat by Barrie/Dave they produced the new format Upload Report. Upload Report can readily identify files which have been uploaded to the incorrect year/quarter and event and generally these are the ones that figure in the Suspect Report. Regards Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: Ian Brooke <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 06 October 2004 20:30 Subject: Re: Suspect files Hi Allan, I saw your recent reply to a question on whether this report can show syndicate names, and perhaps it is too complicated where people are members of multiple syndicates but I really do find it difficult (and very time consuming) going through this list looking for names that could belong to my syndicate, and how syndicates the size of Scan2 cope I really don't know. I hate suggesting further work for people but do you think there is mileage in asking someone to investigate changing this facility so that it does show the syndicate(s)? I doubt many people are members of more than two or three syndicates and it wouldn't overly complicate the look of the report to list that number at the end of each entry. Thanks Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Raymond To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Suspect files Just a quick update for Syndicate Co-ordinators. The latest update (06/10/2004) of the Suspect Report shows a dramatic reduction in the number of Suspect Files. We are now down to 286 Suspect Files and any help you can give in reducing this still further would be appreciated? I have detected the work of at least one Co-ordinator in getting this list down to manageable proportions. It should be possible to deduce from a file name and associated problem whether the file was one uploaded by one of your volunteers. Co-ordinators can disregard any files where the problem is shown as "Too many entries between +PAGE" as the chances are I'm already working on eliminating these files from the Suspect Report. Thanks Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 01 October 2004 23:10 Subject: Suspect files To Co-ordinators Most of you will be aware I have been actively involved with the co-operation of others to eliminate all the suspect files in the Suspect Report at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html There were lots of suspects file way back on 23 February 2003 which was whittled down to about 400 by 8 Oct 2003. By 17 September 2004 it had been substantially reduced to less than 30 suspect files and was going down on a daily basis. We are continually tweaking the Suspect Report criteria to weed out more suspect files. Barrie Archer recently identified some file which unfortunately do not conform to our highly recommended naming convention and therefore weren't being picked up the Suspect Report. This situation has been corrected and the most recent Suspect Report picks up these files. The net result is an increase in the number of files in the Suspect Report. I've already started to take action in sorting out some of the suspect files and there are about a further 650 files still to be sorted out. The co-operation of Co-ordinators in checking the Suspect Report on a regular weekly basis to identify and assist any of their volunteers with suspect files would be appreciated. I find I'm spending a lot of time dealing with volunteers who have suspect files which is an area perhaps better dealt with by the intervention of Co-ordinators. There may be a surprise for some Co-ordinators if they visited Suspect Report! I monitor the number of suspect files on a daily basis and my aim is to get the list down to zero figures by the end of December 2004. I'm actively involved in correcting the files of one volunteer who has the predominate number of suspect files. Regards Alan Raymond --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 04/09/2004 ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== To find out about the FreeBMD project please start at http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Just a quick update for Syndicate Co-ordinators. The latest update (06/10/2004) of the Suspect Report shows a dramatic reduction in the number of Suspect Files. We are now down to 286 Suspect Files and any help you can give in reducing this still further would be appreciated? I have detected the work of at least one Co-ordinator in getting this list down to manageable proportions. It should be possible to deduce from a file name and associated problem whether the file was one uploaded by one of your volunteers. Co-ordinators can disregard any files where the problem is shown as "Too many entries between +PAGE" as the chances are I'm already working on eliminating these files from the Suspect Report. Thanks Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 01 October 2004 23:10 Subject: Suspect files To Co-ordinators Most of you will be aware I have been actively involved with the co-operation of others to eliminate all the suspect files in the Suspect Report at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html There were lots of suspects file way back on 23 February 2003 which was whittled down to about 400 by 8 Oct 2003. By 17 September 2004 it had been substantially reduced to less than 30 suspect files and was going down on a daily basis. We are continually tweaking the Suspect Report criteria to weed out more suspect files. Barrie Archer recently identified some file which unfortunately do not conform to our highly recommended naming convention and therefore weren't being picked up the Suspect Report. This situation has been corrected and the most recent Suspect Report picks up these files. The net result is an increase in the number of files in the Suspect Report. I've already started to take action in sorting out some of the suspect files and there are about a further 650 files still to be sorted out. The co-operation of Co-ordinators in checking the Suspect Report on a regular weekly basis to identify and assist any of their volunteers with suspect files would be appreciated. I find I'm spending a lot of time dealing with volunteers who have suspect files which is an area perhaps better dealt with by the intervention of Co-ordinators. There may be a surprise for some Co-ordinators if they visited Suspect Report! I monitor the number of suspect files on a daily basis and my aim is to get the list down to zero figures by the end of December 2004. I'm actively involved in correcting the files of one volunteer who has the predominate number of suspect files. Regards Alan Raymond ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== Thank you Rootsweb for hosting the FreeBMD project and its mailing lists. See http://www.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I have had this from one of my transcribers can anyone come up with an answer please Thanks Debbie I have lots of "McDonald" type names to transcribe. The little c is placed in superscript position on the original scan I have forgotten how to represent them into WinBMD. Nothing in the special (F4)character table looks any good. Any suggestions please:-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 5/10/04

Hi Allan, I saw your recent reply to a question on whether this report can show syndicate names, and perhaps it is too complicated where people are members of multiple syndicates but I really do find it difficult (and very time consuming) going through this list looking for names that could belong to my syndicate, and how syndicates the size of Scan2 cope I really don't know. I hate suggesting further work for people but do you think there is mileage in asking someone to investigate changing this facility so that it does show the syndicate(s)? I doubt many people are members of more than two or three syndicates and it wouldn't overly complicate the look of the report to list that number at the end of each entry. Thanks Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Raymond To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Suspect files Just a quick update for Syndicate Co-ordinators. The latest update (06/10/2004) of the Suspect Report shows a dramatic reduction in the number of Suspect Files. We are now down to 286 Suspect Files and any help you can give in reducing this still further would be appreciated? I have detected the work of at least one Co-ordinator in getting this list down to manageable proportions. It should be possible to deduce from a file name and associated problem whether the file was one uploaded by one of your volunteers. Co-ordinators can disregard any files where the problem is shown as "Too many entries between +PAGE" as the chances are I'm already working on eliminating these files from the Suspect Report. Thanks Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 01 October 2004 23:10 Subject: Suspect files To Co-ordinators Most of you will be aware I have been actively involved with the co-operation of others to eliminate all the suspect files in the Suspect Report at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html There were lots of suspects file way back on 23 February 2003 which was whittled down to about 400 by 8 Oct 2003. By 17 September 2004 it had been substantially reduced to less than 30 suspect files and was going down on a daily basis. We are continually tweaking the Suspect Report criteria to weed out more suspect files. Barrie Archer recently identified some file which unfortunately do not conform to our highly recommended naming convention and therefore weren't being picked up the Suspect Report. This situation has been corrected and the most recent Suspect Report picks up these files. The net result is an increase in the number of files in the Suspect Report. I've already started to take action in sorting out some of the suspect files and there are about a further 650 files still to be sorted out. The co-operation of Co-ordinators in checking the Suspect Report on a regular weekly basis to identify and assist any of their volunteers with suspect files would be appreciated. I find I'm spending a lot of time dealing with volunteers who have suspect files which is an area perhaps better dealt with by the intervention of Co-ordinators. There may be a surprise for some Co-ordinators if they visited Suspect Report! I monitor the number of suspect files on a daily basis and my aim is to get the list down to zero figures by the end of December 2004. I'm actively involved in correcting the files of one volunteer who has the predominate number of suspect files. Regards Alan Raymond --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 04/09/2004

Hi Debbie Have a look at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6o Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:35 AM Subject: Help Please > I have had this from one of my transcribers can anyone come up with an > answer please > > Thanks Debbie > > > I have lots of "McDonald" type names to transcribe. > The little c is placed in superscript position on the original scan > I have forgotten how to represent them into WinBMD. > > Nothing in the special (F4)character table looks any good. > > Any suggestions please:-) > >

Thank you to everyone who has replied - please cancel previous e-mails, Dave. The problem seems to be with Norton antivirus and possibly case sensitive passwords. It looks as if my transcriber now has it all worked out. Melda Brunette, Brunette Syndicate Co-ordinator

People, Apologies for using these lists for this pupose, but I am trying to contact Peter Hendy-Idds, but emails to [email protected] are bouncing. Does anyone have any alternate addresses which I could try? Thanks in advance Kevin Howell FreeBMD Corrections Coordinator.

I have a second transcriber who is unable to upload files to the site using the automatic upload through the transcription window in the WinBMD software. The problem the first transcriber had was not resolved satisfactorily until after she bought a new computer and reloaded all the software (numerous efforts at deinstalling and reinstalling hadn't worked for her prior to this.) My second transcriber's problem appears to be identical - she has uploaded a large number of files through File Management, but still cannot get the automatic to work. Can any transcriber, co-ordinator or Dave shed any light on the possible problem? I have sent her a note asking what system she uses but assume a recent version of Windows as she doesn't have any other problems. Melda Brunette Co-ordinator, Brunette Syndicate

Please share the problem caused by Norton and how it was fixed, Steve Gaunt Croscan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melda Brunette" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:26 AM Subject: FreeBMD: transcriber having problems with WinBMD automatic upload > Thank you to everyone who has replied - please cancel previous e-mails, > Dave. > > The problem seems to be with Norton antivirus and possibly case > sensitive passwords. It looks as if my transcriber now has it all > worked out. > > Melda Brunette, > Brunette Syndicate Co-ordinator > > > > ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== > For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Michael You bet there are lots of records. The good news is that I got rid of 300 of them during the last two days. I'm not sure if we can provide all the information you requested, this depends on whether Barrie/Dave etc can do the necessary coding. My personal observations is that some volunteers belong to more than Syndicate and therefore this may prove to be problematic in any coding which may be necessary. It is also possible to guess from some of the odd file names which event/year/quarter the file refers to. I would also say that if Upload Report was used to its full extent it is possible to identify quite a lot of the suspect files which have been picked up by the Suspect Report. If volunteers were encouraged to use the standard naming format plus insertion of the corresponding +PAGE, the Upload Report would quickly identify "suspect files". Upload Report, in particular using the Download (i.e. the spreadsheet variety) facility is my bread and butter for picking all lots of other files which although incorrect have not been picked up by the Suspect Report. I use Excel in conjunction with Pivot Table to pick up variants of suspect files. I'm quite happy to share my process with anyone who may be interested. I would also hope, that the next but one run of Suspect Report will not be so overwhelming as a great number of the files will have been corrected by then. Cheers Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: Michael Fisher <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 02 October 2004 19:32 Subject: RE: Suspect files Hi Allan, I had a look and there are lots of records there. It is listed by Username which I am not familiar with these days. Is there any way to add the syndicate or at least the actual or suspected year/quarter and event so that we poor coordinators know if it's one of our flock. Right now it's overwhelming. Michael Hundred Acre Group -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 5:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Suspect files To Co-ordinators Most of you will be aware I have been actively involved with the co-operation of others to eliminate all the suspect files in the Suspect Report at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html ==== FREEBMD-SYNDICATES Mailing List ==== For those in -L mode, to unsubscribe from this mailing list please send the command UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to - [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Allan, I had a look and there are lots of records there. It is listed by Username which I am not familiar with these days. Is there any way to add the syndicate or at least the actual or suspected year/quarter and event so that we poor coordinators know if it's one of our flock. Right now it's overwhelming. Michael Hundred Acre Group -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 5:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Suspect files To Co-ordinators Most of you will be aware I have been actively involved with the co-operation of others to eliminate all the suspect files in the Suspect Report at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html

To Co-ordinators Most of you will be aware I have been actively involved with the co-operation of others to eliminate all the suspect files in the Suspect Report at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/SuspectFiles.html There were lots of suspects file way back on 23 February 2003 which was whittled down to about 400 by 8 Oct 2003. By 17 September 2004 it had been substantially reduced to less than 30 suspect files and was going down on a daily basis. We are continually tweaking the Suspect Report criteria to weed out more suspect files. Barrie Archer recently identified some file which unfortunately do not conform to our highly recommended naming convention and therefore weren't being picked up the Suspect Report. This situation has been corrected and the most recent Suspect Report picks up these files. The net result is an increase in the number of files in the Suspect Report. I've already started to take action in sorting out some of the suspect files and there are about a further 650 files still to be sorted out. The co-operation of Co-ordinators in checking the Suspect Report on a regular weekly basis to identify and assist any of their volunteers with suspect files would be appreciated. I find I'm spending a lot of time dealing with volunteers who have suspect files which is an area perhaps better dealt with by the intervention of Co-ordinators. There may be a surprise for some Co-ordinators if they visited Suspect Report! I monitor the number of suspect files on a daily basis and my aim is to get the list down to zero figures by the end of December 2004. I'm actively involved in correcting the files of one volunteer who has the predominate number of suspect files. Regards Alan Raymond

Thank you Allan - have done so now Hooroo T

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