It's somewhat more complicated than you suggest " if it does not start with (My )Documents, ask " - there are no requirements in Windows on the name given to My Documents. The majority of people would leave it as that but it really can be called anything and exist anywhere and this is further complicated by Vista's seemingly bisarre habits in locating folders, it certainly would never "start with My Documents" and may not have "My Documents" in the path. I'm not entirely sure about your point on questioning the user if they want to move the folder. Do you mean every time WinBMD runs and finds it's not under My Documents or just the first time it finds it not there? Clearly if it's just the first time then I'm going to need a "question asked" flag but asking every time would I think be quite annoying. Are we sure that transcribers are going to know whether they should be answering Yes or No to that questions or are we going to flood the lists with people asking what this means and what they should do? My purpose in using multiple flags was to try to avoid problems and I think I'm still going to have to do that, plus an additional flag about the question. The "folder created" flag was intended to overcome a problem if there was already a folder below My Documents with my proposed name - it's very unlikely but possible. The files copied flag was to overcome a problem if the machine crashed or closed down between creating the folder and completing copying all the files (that copy could take some time). With those 2 flags I can easily restart at the appropriate point. Part of my problem is that I don't have access to a Vista computer so I can't check what WinBMD would be showing as the path to it's folder. It *should* be the case that if I call the Windows routine to get the path to My Documents then that should match what WinBMD has stored as the starting part of the path to it's Output folder but that's a guess. What I'm going to need to do is produce a version which puts the path into the ini file and get someone to try it out and send me the ini after changing the folder to be in My Documents. Maybe I can see enough from what WinBMD is currently showing as the output folder path on its Files menu. Is there anyone who has Vista that could email me what WinBMD is currently showing as it's output path. Then create a new folder below My Documents and switch WinBMD to use that and again show me what WinBMD says it's path is. You could then switch it back to your original folder. If your preference is to have spaces rather than underscores in the folder name then that's not a problem. My preference is the other way around but I don't really mind either way. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:40 AM Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List >I must say that I had envisaged a somewhat simpler process - but that > may be because I do not understand your proposals, or the complexity of > installing WinBMD! > > 1) I WinBMD is not already installed, silently set the output folder to > be under (My )Documents > > 2) If WinBMD is already installed check the output filename in the > configuration file - if it does not start with (My )Documents, ask the > user if you should move it to (My )Documents and if they say "yes", move > the files and change the output filename in the configuration file. > > As I understand it WinBMD currently uses a .ini file to store > configuration data and, I assume, this would not change in the new > version. Having configuration data in both the registry and an .ini is, > from a software engineering point of view, undesirable. > > Also my proposal involves less error checking, e.g. if the first > registry flag is set you have to check if the output folder is already > under (My )Documents. > > Plainly my proposal conflicts with your "I really don't want to mess > about checking where their current folder is and then dciding whether to > move it or not, it's probably error prone and overly complex." But your > proposal seemed to require you find where the current folder is > (otherwise how could you move the files from it?). I can't see that > asking the user if you should move their files for them, and then not > moving them if they answered "no", is complex. > > Finally, having underscore in a (My )Documents folder seems to be very > unusual. It would naturally be "WinBMD Output Files". However, if you > feel it necessary to differentiate the use by having "Output Files" it > would seem to me to be more logical to have this under a "WinBMD" folder > (i.e. (My )Documents\WinBMD\Output Files). > > Barrie > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Ian Brooke >> Sent: 31 January 2009 22:39 >> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List >> >> So here's what I would like to change WinBMD to do: >> If the folder has not been created (so I would check a registry flag); >> Create a new folder under My Documents (I'd like to call it >> "WinBMD_Output_Files"); >> Set the registry flag to show it's created. >> If the files have not ben moved (check another flag) >> Copy all the files from the existing Output folder to the >> new folder; >> Create the 2nd flag. >> Switch the Output path to use this new folder >> >> The existing Output folder could stay where it is and all the >> files would >> remain in it?? >> >> People could then move this new folder if they really wanted >> (using the >> existing Setpath feature on the Files menu). >> >> The only minor problem would be if people have installed >> WinBMD elsewhere >> (for examply on a drive of their choice) then their output >> folder would be >> changed to the new one, although again it's easy for them to >> switch back. I >> really don't want to mess about checking where their current >> folder is and >> then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error >> prone and overly >> complex. >> >> Any comments? >> >> Ian >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> >> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List >> >> >> > Exactly! Just as I have been saying, the *default* should >> be a folder >> > under Documents (My Documents in earlier Windows) then, as >> you imply, it >> > would be easy for users to find. >> > >> > Barrie >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> >> Keith Simpson >> >> Sent: 28 January 2009 18:00 >> >> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: re Windows Wish List >> >> Importance: High >> >> >> >> After reading all the messages regarding where files of >> >> transcripts are >> >> stored when saved . I would just like to say that a >> picture is worth a >> >> thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having >> >> problems I send >> >> them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I >> >> send detailed >> >> instructions on how to change the default settings to a place >> >> they would >> >> recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES >> >> in the DOCUMENTS >> >> folder. >> >> >> >> So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They >> >> don't have to >> >> go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove >> >> daunting for new >> >> users of computers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> Gandalf Syndicate >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> >> of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Further to my previous post: I have now looked more closely at our two current quarters 1859B2 and 1859B3, for which I understood we were doing the second transcription, where it would seem that many syndicates have had a go at the same quarter. On closer inspection it seems that if a transcriber like Charlotte (one of the best by the way) who transcribes for Allan's orphans, then takes on all the B surnames for us - the syndicate doing the second transcription - whatever she uploads that might have been already done by another transcriber who has worked for several syndicates as well as ours, is flagged. And the problem them snowballs through every syndicate that is orphaned and every transcriber who has worked on gaps in every quarter that Allan has assumed. Charlotte must be listed against at least half a dozen syndicates and maybe more. I have been away for several weeks, but seem to recall picking up some webmail that indicated duplicate syndicate transcribers and apparent duplicate transcriptions within the same syndicate are a known issue and the problem is being worked upon. Is this the answer to my former question? Melda Brunette, Brunette Syndicate

I am equally flummoxed but for a different reason and, like Richard, wonder whether someone has any ideas on how to proceed. I have lists of duplicate files under my syndicate name for several quarters that were not transcribed by my syndicate - 1863 births. However, the two transcribers involved, CharlotteB and zielle do transcribe for us, and Charlotte does for Allan's orphans - as I also used to do. In other places I can see duplicates in my name with other transcribers in the defunct Kelly Seltzle syndicate. Charlotte's and zielle's files for these quarters are not within the same syndicate anyway and should therefore be recognised as first and second transcriptions - which they are not - and I have sent the file list to support@. However, this really only concerns me because the quarter duplicates are assigned to my syndicate when they are actually for Beautiful BC and Western Oz! I can't do anything about them. I am well aware of where duplicates occur within my own syndicate - and they are there for all kinds of reasons, often coordinator error in accidently assigning the same block to different people! And there are other reasons to do with transcriber error, incomplete files etc. My main question is this: do we, as coordinators, really have to take any action on these sorts of duplicate problems? It looks a daunting task. Melda Brunette, Brunette Syndicate Auckland, New Zealand Richard Oliver wrote: >Advice please from my fellow Syndicate Co-ordinators, and/or the gurus up >there... > >We are transcribing 1839 December Births, and one of my team has come across >a peculiarity: four pages in the Index have been written out twice and >bound as separate pages in proper numerical sequence. This is NOT a case of >same pages scanned twice, but of two almost (but not quite) identical >versions of: > >1839B4-P-0139 repeated as 1839B4-P-0141 >1839B4-P-0140 repeated as 1839B4-P-0142 >1839B4-P-0143 repeated as 1839B4-P-0145 >1839B4-P-0144 repeated as 1839B4-P-0146 > >Our question is: How should these be transcribed: 1) each page twice, >given that this will produce double-keying for 160 records, and numerous >out-of-sequence warnings? Or 2) duplicated pages only transcribed once, >given that there are minor variations between versions, and that numerical >sequence would be broken? > >Richard Oliver >Madrid, Spain >richol@arrakis.es > > > >

I must say that I had envisaged a somewhat simpler process - but that may be because I do not understand your proposals, or the complexity of installing WinBMD! 1) I WinBMD is not already installed, silently set the output folder to be under (My )Documents 2) If WinBMD is already installed check the output filename in the configuration file - if it does not start with (My )Documents, ask the user if you should move it to (My )Documents and if they say "yes", move the files and change the output filename in the configuration file. As I understand it WinBMD currently uses a .ini file to store configuration data and, I assume, this would not change in the new version. Having configuration data in both the registry and an .ini is, from a software engineering point of view, undesirable. Also my proposal involves less error checking, e.g. if the first registry flag is set you have to check if the output folder is already under (My )Documents. Plainly my proposal conflicts with your "I really don't want to mess about checking where their current folder is and then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error prone and overly complex." But your proposal seemed to require you find where the current folder is (otherwise how could you move the files from it?). I can't see that asking the user if you should move their files for them, and then not moving them if they answered "no", is complex. Finally, having underscore in a (My )Documents folder seems to be very unusual. It would naturally be "WinBMD Output Files". However, if you feel it necessary to differentiate the use by having "Output Files" it would seem to me to be more logical to have this under a "WinBMD" folder (i.e. (My )Documents\WinBMD\Output Files). Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Ian Brooke > Sent: 31 January 2009 22:39 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > > So here's what I would like to change WinBMD to do: > If the folder has not been created (so I would check a registry flag); > Create a new folder under My Documents (I'd like to call it > "WinBMD_Output_Files"); > Set the registry flag to show it's created. > If the files have not ben moved (check another flag) > Copy all the files from the existing Output folder to the > new folder; > Create the 2nd flag. > Switch the Output path to use this new folder > > The existing Output folder could stay where it is and all the > files would > remain in it?? > > People could then move this new folder if they really wanted > (using the > existing Setpath feature on the Files menu). > > The only minor problem would be if people have installed > WinBMD elsewhere > (for examply on a drive of their choice) then their output > folder would be > changed to the new one, although again it's easy for them to > switch back. I > really don't want to mess about checking where their current > folder is and > then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error > prone and overly > complex. > > Any comments? > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:02 PM > Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List > > > > Exactly! Just as I have been saying, the *default* should > be a folder > > under Documents (My Documents in earlier Windows) then, as > you imply, it > > would be easy for users to find. > > > > Barrie > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > >> Keith Simpson > >> Sent: 28 January 2009 18:00 > >> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: re Windows Wish List > >> Importance: High > >> > >> After reading all the messages regarding where files of > >> transcripts are > >> stored when saved . I would just like to say that a > picture is worth a > >> thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having > >> problems I send > >> them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I > >> send detailed > >> instructions on how to change the default settings to a place > >> they would > >> recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES > >> in the DOCUMENTS > >> folder. > >> > >> So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They > >> don't have to > >> go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove > >> daunting for new > >> users of computers. > >> > >> > >> > >> Keith > >> > >> Gandalf Syndicate > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > >> of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >

In order to understand what is going on with Syndicate Duplicates one has to appreciate that the system has no knowledge of what syndicate is transcribing which quarter. Therefore the only information on which Syndicate Duplicates can be determined is the syndicates that the transcribers are members of. So the system sees that CharlotteB and zielle are both in Brunette Syndicate and therefore the transcription could be a syndicate duplicate. So, yes Syndicate Co-ordinators need to take action on Syndicate Duplicates for their syndicate, that action being, as you have done, to report that the duplicates are not, in fact, duplicates because (a) the syndicate was not transcribing that quarter or (b) one or both of the transcribers were not transcribing for the syndicate. Where you personally have transcribed for another syndicate then it is the responsibility of the coordinator of that syndicate to take action, not you. However, at the next update we hope to take account of the syndicate name in the first comment line of the file. This is expected to alleviate the problem and therefore it would be prudent for Syndicate Coordinators to wait till after the next update when the task may be less daunting. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Melda Brunette > Sent: 31 January 2009 21:39 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Duplicate files > > I am equally flummoxed but for a different reason and, like Richard, > wonder whether someone has any ideas on how to proceed. I > have lists of > duplicate files under my syndicate name for several quarters > that were > not transcribed by my syndicate - 1863 births. However, the two > transcribers involved, CharlotteB and zielle do transcribe > for us, and > Charlotte does for Allan's orphans - as I also used to do. In other > places I can see duplicates in my name with other transcribers in the > defunct Kelly Seltzle syndicate. > > Charlotte's and zielle's files for these quarters are not within the > same syndicate anyway and should therefore be recognised as first and > second transcriptions - which they are not - and I have sent the file > list to support@. However, this really only concerns me because the > quarter duplicates are assigned to my syndicate when they are > actually > for Beautiful BC and Western Oz! I can't do anything about them. > > I am well aware of where duplicates occur within my own > syndicate - and > they are there for all kinds of reasons, often coordinator error in > accidently assigning the same block to different people! And > there are > other reasons to do with transcriber error, incomplete files etc. > > My main question is this: do we, as coordinators, really have to take > any action on these sorts of duplicate problems? It looks a > daunting task. > > Melda Brunette, > Brunette Syndicate > Auckland, New Zealand > > > > Richard Oliver wrote: > > >Advice please from my fellow Syndicate Co-ordinators, and/or > the gurus up > >there... > > > >We are transcribing 1839 December Births, and one of my team > has come across > >a peculiarity: four pages in the Index have been written > out twice and > >bound as separate pages in proper numerical sequence. This > is NOT a case of > >same pages scanned twice, but of two almost (but not quite) > identical > >versions of: > > > >1839B4-P-0139 repeated as 1839B4-P-0141 > >1839B4-P-0140 repeated as 1839B4-P-0142 > >1839B4-P-0143 repeated as 1839B4-P-0145 > >1839B4-P-0144 repeated as 1839B4-P-0146 > > > >Our question is: How should these be transcribed: 1) each > page twice, > >given that this will produce double-keying for 160 records, > and numerous > >out-of-sequence warnings? Or 2) duplicated pages only > transcribed once, > >given that there are minor variations between versions, and > that numerical > >sequence would be broken? > > > >Richard Oliver > >Madrid, Spain > >richol@arrakis.es > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >

Ian So by choice I could still have a WinBMD created files stored in Output folder which is isteslf a subfolder of the WinBMD folder? Personally I have no interest in having my files which have been created by WinBMD stored in a folder within a My Documents folder. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooke" <ianbrooke@hotmail.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:38 PM Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List So here's what I would like to change WinBMD to do: If the folder has not been created (so I would check a registry flag); Create a new folder under My Documents (I'd like to call it "WinBMD_Output_Files"); Set the registry flag to show it's created. If the files have not ben moved (check another flag) Copy all the files from the existing Output folder to the new folder; Create the 2nd flag. Switch the Output path to use this new folder The existing Output folder could stay where it is and all the files would remain in it?? People could then move this new folder if they really wanted (using the existing Setpath feature on the Files menu). The only minor problem would be if people have installed WinBMD elsewhere (for examply on a drive of their choice) then their output folder would be changed to the new one, although again it's easy for them to switch back. I really don't want to mess about checking where their current folder is and then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error prone and overly complex. Any comments? Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List > Exactly! Just as I have been saying, the *default* should be a folder > under Documents (My Documents in earlier Windows) then, as you imply, it > would be easy for users to find. > > Barrie > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Keith Simpson >> Sent: 28 January 2009 18:00 >> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >> Subject: re Windows Wish List >> Importance: High >> >> After reading all the messages regarding where files of >> transcripts are >> stored when saved . I would just like to say that a picture is worth a >> thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having >> problems I send >> them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I >> send detailed >> instructions on how to change the default settings to a place >> they would >> recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES >> in the DOCUMENTS >> folder. >> >> So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They >> don't have to >> go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove >> daunting for new >> users of computers. >> >> >> >> Keith >> >> Gandalf Syndicate >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Keith Can you please send me the screen shots of the advice you give your volunteers who are installing WinBMD on Vista PC? At long last I've managed to get one volunteer who was experiencing "Run time error 429 ActiveX component can not create object" to get WinBMD to work on Vista. I used your screen shot approach and would be interested to see the advice you give to your volunteers who may be experiencing the "Run time error" problem. Thanks Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Simpson" <Ksimpson68@btinternet.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: re Windows Wish List After reading all the messages regarding where files of transcripts are stored when saved . I would just like to say that a picture is worth a thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having problems I send them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I send detailed instructions on how to change the default settings to a place they would recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES in the DOCUMENTS folder. So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They don't have to go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove daunting for new users of computers. Keith Gandalf Syndicate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Allan, Yes you could. After the new version first runs it would create the new folder and copy the files to it. All you would then need to do is to click the option on the Files menu and navigate it back to your original folder and WinBMD would continue to use that from then on with no further intervention required. You could/should delete the folder in My Documents, just to keep things tidy. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Raymond" <allan_raymond@btinternet.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > Ian > > So by choice I could still have a WinBMD created files stored in Output > folder which is isteslf a subfolder of the WinBMD folder? > > Personally I have no interest in having my files which have been created > by > WinBMD stored in a folder within a My Documents folder. > > Allan Raymond > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Brooke" <ianbrooke@hotmail.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:38 PM > Subject: Re: re Windows Wish List > > > So here's what I would like to change WinBMD to do: > If the folder has not been created (so I would check a registry flag); > Create a new folder under My Documents (I'd like to call it > "WinBMD_Output_Files"); > Set the registry flag to show it's created. > If the files have not ben moved (check another flag) > Copy all the files from the existing Output folder to the new folder; > Create the 2nd flag. > Switch the Output path to use this new folder > > The existing Output folder could stay where it is and all the files would > remain in it?? > > People could then move this new folder if they really wanted (using the > existing Setpath feature on the Files menu). > > The only minor problem would be if people have installed WinBMD elsewhere > (for examply on a drive of their choice) then their output folder would be > changed to the new one, although again it's easy for them to switch back. > I > really don't want to mess about checking where their current folder is and > then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error prone and > overly > complex. > > Any comments? > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:02 PM > Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List > > >> Exactly! Just as I have been saying, the *default* should be a folder >> under Documents (My Documents in earlier Windows) then, as you imply, it >> would be easy for users to find. >> >> Barrie >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>> Keith Simpson >>> Sent: 28 January 2009 18:00 >>> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: re Windows Wish List >>> Importance: High >>> >>> After reading all the messages regarding where files of >>> transcripts are >>> stored when saved . I would just like to say that a picture is worth a >>> thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having >>> problems I send >>> them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I >>> send detailed >>> instructions on how to change the default settings to a place >>> they would >>> recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES >>> in the DOCUMENTS >>> folder. >>> >>> So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They >>> don't have to >>> go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove >>> daunting for new >>> users of computers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> Gandalf Syndicate >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>> of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

See my earlier post regarding moving the Output folder. The actual name of "My Documents" is not important (nor is the version of Windows) - there is a routine available that works on all versions of Windows that returns the paths to vaious 'system' folders, including My Documents. This will tell WinBMD the correct pathname no matter where it is or what it is called. The possibilty of My Documents having different names is one reason I didn't want to try checking where the files are currently stored. There may be a confusion factor though by always creating this new folder, especially if people already have their files in a folder under My Documents when they will end up with two folders under My Documents containing output files. I can't think of a simple solution to this though. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:49 AM Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > In Vista it is called 'Documents' while in XP it is 'My Documents', which > I > think is also used in Windows 95 and 98. > > There might need to be a question asked about operating system before > establishing where the default save location is, unless the software can > determine automatically what operating system is in use. > Alternatively, less tidily, and less easy to support, there might need to > be > alternative versions to download, depending on operating system. > > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b could do with amendment now to > advise people to re-set the Define Save Path as soon as WinBMD is > installed > on Vista. > I would also suggest that, after installing WinBMD on Vista, users restart > their computers before using WinBMD. This seems to reduce problems, based > on > experience, but I don't know why. > > There should also be a link to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b > on > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/, along the lines of 'If you have > Windows Vista, see ____ , or else the text of > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b could be incorporated on the > WinBMD download page, I suggest. > > There was a query about WinBMD installation at 20 January 2009 13:02 on > the > FreeBMD-admins list from Janet Harding, for which I have not seen a reply > on > the list. It is at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FreeBMD-Admins/2009-01/1232456574 . > Can anyone help, or has this been sorted by the syndicate co-ordinator > concerned? > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:14 AM > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > >> That is almost as bad because it only works on single user machines. The >> default should be My Documents or a sub-folder of My Documents. >> >> That might not be the way many people choose to work but it is the only >> safe default that caters for those who barely know what a folder is. >> >> C:\WinBMD also assumes that the data partition is c: which is often not >> the case. >> >> Barrie >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>> Bob Phillips >>> Sent: 27 January 2009 19:58 >>> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD >>> >>> How about making the default installation folder >>> C:\WinBMD >>> instead of the standard >>> C:\Program Files\WinBMD >>> which should stop Windows Vista from changing the Save location. >>> >>> cheers >>> Bob Phillips >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nowl" <owl.news@zen.co.uk> >>> To: <FreeBMD-Syndicates@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:43 PM >>> Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD >>> >>> >>> > Christopher Richards wrote on Tue, 27 Jan 2009: >>> > >>> >>I'm wondering if there is a simpler solution. An option to "prepare >>> >>file for emailing". This would save a copy on the desktop. >>> From there >>> >>it is easy to find it and attach it to an email whatever >>> system one is >>> >>using. >>> > >>> > Oh no, *please* don't let's encourage people to copy files to the >>> > desktop! This is exactly what leads to the multiple-version >>> nightmare I >>> > posted about last week (see thread "Save As headaches". >>> > >>> > I agree with Barrie and think the core problem is the Save Path. I'd >>> > like to see WinBMD, when first run, ask the user to choose >>> or create a >>> > folder in which to store their work, perhaps offering to create a >>> > subfolder of My Documents by default. >>> > -- >>> > Nowl >>> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So here's what I would like to change WinBMD to do: If the folder has not been created (so I would check a registry flag); Create a new folder under My Documents (I'd like to call it "WinBMD_Output_Files"); Set the registry flag to show it's created. If the files have not ben moved (check another flag) Copy all the files from the existing Output folder to the new folder; Create the 2nd flag. Switch the Output path to use this new folder The existing Output folder could stay where it is and all the files would remain in it?? People could then move this new folder if they really wanted (using the existing Setpath feature on the Files menu). The only minor problem would be if people have installed WinBMD elsewhere (for examply on a drive of their choice) then their output folder would be changed to the new one, although again it's easy for them to switch back. I really don't want to mess about checking where their current folder is and then dciding whether to move it or not, it's probably error prone and overly complex. Any comments? Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: RE: re Windows Wish List > Exactly! Just as I have been saying, the *default* should be a folder > under Documents (My Documents in earlier Windows) then, as you imply, it > would be easy for users to find. > > Barrie > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Keith Simpson >> Sent: 28 January 2009 18:00 >> To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com >> Subject: re Windows Wish List >> Importance: High >> >> After reading all the messages regarding where files of >> transcripts are >> stored when saved . I would just like to say that a picture is worth a >> thousand words. When I have a new transcriber who is having >> problems I send >> them a screenshot of WinBMD . Along with the screen shot I >> send detailed >> instructions on how to change the default settings to a place >> they would >> recognise more easily. i.e. Storing their TRANSCRIBED FILES >> in the DOCUMENTS >> folder. >> >> So far this has worked and everybody seems quite happy. They >> don't have to >> go searching their hard drives for folders, which can prove >> daunting for new >> users of computers. >> >> >> >> Keith >> >> Gandalf Syndicate >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Advice please from my fellow Syndicate Co-ordinators, and/or the gurus up there... We are transcribing 1839 December Births, and one of my team has come across a peculiarity: four pages in the Index have been written out twice and bound as separate pages in proper numerical sequence. This is NOT a case of same pages scanned twice, but of two almost (but not quite) identical versions of: 1839B4-P-0139 repeated as 1839B4-P-0141 1839B4-P-0140 repeated as 1839B4-P-0142 1839B4-P-0143 repeated as 1839B4-P-0145 1839B4-P-0144 repeated as 1839B4-P-0146 Our question is: How should these be transcribed: 1) each page twice, given that this will produce double-keying for 160 records, and numerous out-of-sequence warnings? Or 2) duplicated pages only transcribed once, given that there are minor variations between versions, and that numerical sequence would be broken? Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain richol@arrakis.es

I've seen this too Mary Trevan FreeBMD District Aliasing Team Coordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Richards" <cmr1chards@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: Re: District problem in 1838 > There is a typo in my posting. The second paragraph should read: > > Seisden, 17 has been linked to Lexden but the Seisdon, 17 comes up > separately. > > > Christopher Richards > > > > >> I've doing some correcting of old transcriptions and have come across >> the Seisdon/Seisden/Lexden issue. >> >> Seisden has been linked to Lexdon but the Sesidon, 17 comes up >> separately. >> >> All the entries for Seisden/Seisdon that I've come across so far are >> late entries squeezed into the page. So they are small and hard to be >> sure if they read Seisdon or Seisden. However the example on page >> 1838D1S0273 is clearly Seisdon when looked at on the equivalent page of >> ancestry. Page 171 of 1838>Q1-JAN-FEB-MAR >S. >> >> I think it would be consistent to link the four examples of Seisdon in >> 1838D1 to Lexden. >> >> Christopher Richards >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00

We'll look into it Christopher. Aliasing is done at the level of the district name not at the level of an individual entry, so it may not be possible with aliasing alone, and you will not see the results until the update that is due at the end of Feb / start of March completes Mary Trevan FreeBMD District Aliasing Test Coordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: "IGRS Treasurer" <treasurerigrs@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: District problem in 1838 > I've doing some correcting of old transcriptions and have come across > the Seisdon/Seisden/Lexden issue. > > Seisden has been linked to Lexdon but the Sesidon, 17 comes up separately. > > All the entries for Seisden/Seisdon that I've come across so far are > late entries squeezed into the page. So they are small and hard to be > sure if they read Seisdon or Seisden. However the example on page > 1838D1S0273 is clearly Seisdon when looked at on the equivalent page of > ancestry. Page 171 of 1838>Q1-JAN-FEB-MAR >S. > > I think it would be consistent to link the four examples of Seisdon in > 1838D1 to Lexden. > > Christopher Richards > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00

There is a typo in my posting. The second paragraph should read: Seisden, 17 has been linked to Lexden but the Seisdon, 17 comes up separately. Christopher Richards > I've doing some correcting of old transcriptions and have come across > the Seisdon/Seisden/Lexden issue. > > Seisden has been linked to Lexdon but the Sesidon, 17 comes up separately. > > All the entries for Seisden/Seisdon that I've come across so far are > late entries squeezed into the page. So they are small and hard to be > sure if they read Seisdon or Seisden. However the example on page > 1838D1S0273 is clearly Seisdon when looked at on the equivalent page of > ancestry. Page 171 of 1838>Q1-JAN-FEB-MAR >S. > > I think it would be consistent to link the four examples of Seisdon in > 1838D1 to Lexden. > > Christopher Richards > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Non-multiple #THEORY and #COMMENT on the same line work. I also believe this multiple will work because the repeat count is the same but since the file has not yet been loaded into the database it is difficult to be sure. However, the case with overlapping multiple entries, as reported by Allan, doesn't work. I have raised a task to correct this. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Jeff Coleman > Sent: 29 January 2009 23:42 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: THEORY and COMMENT for the same line > > Is there any rule or guideline about what to do when both > #COMMENT and > #THEORY are appropriate in a particular case? > > > The query arises from 1931B3-B-0073 where the handwritten tries for > Bennett,Eileen M. have been transcribed thus > > Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chester,8a,504a > #COMMENT (2) Entry reads BANKS OR BENNETT for Mother's name > and is crossed > through > Bennett,Eileen M.,Bennett,Chester,8a,504a > Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chelsea,8a,504a > #COMMENT(2) Entry reads BANKS OR BENNETT for Mother's name > #THEORY (2) District name should be Chester > Bennett,Eileen M.,Bennett,Chelsea,8a,504a > > These seem to be later additional details relating to an > original typed > entry > Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chester,8a,504 > > As you see, the first handwritten entry, like the original > typed line, > refers to Chester, but after the first version was crossed > out a second > version has Chelsea instead of Chester as district. Hence the > #THEORY(2) > line. > > > Jeff > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >

I have a similar sort of query which I sought guidance a short while ago (not via the mailing lists) so a response to your query may possibly answer my query. My query applied to a possible invalid consecutive block of surnames in which #THEORY(67) was used. In the middle of these 67 entries was an entry in which there was an invalid District and so #THEORY was used to describe the invalid District. As in: HAYNE,Ada,Headington,3a,528 #THEORY (67) Sequence error and surname at top of next column indicate surname should be HAYNES HAYNE,Albert James,Southampton,2c,3 etc down to HAYNE,Florence,Cambrdige,3b,474 #THEORY District name Cambrdige is mistyped Cambridge HAYNE,Florence Alberta,Kensington,1a,20 etc remaining 67 entries for surname HAYNE down to HAYNE,William Henry,Strand,1b,494 When carrying out a search for Hayne the returned result only showed the #THEORY (67) note applying to entries preceding the entry containing #THEORY District name Cambrdige is mistyped Cambridge. This meant that about 40 of the #THEORY(67) note was not shown against surname HAYNE entries This implies that only one #THEORY (and I assume #COMMENT) can be effectively shown against an entry. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:42 PM Subject: THEORY and COMMENT for the same line Is there any rule or guideline about what to do when both #COMMENT and #THEORY are appropriate in a particular case? The query arises from 1931B3-B-0073 where the handwritten tries for Bennett,Eileen M. have been transcribed thus Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chester,8a,504a #COMMENT (2) Entry reads BANKS OR BENNETT for Mother's name and is crossed through Bennett,Eileen M.,Bennett,Chester,8a,504a Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chelsea,8a,504a #COMMENT(2) Entry reads BANKS OR BENNETT for Mother's name #THEORY (2) District name should be Chester Bennett,Eileen M.,Bennett,Chelsea,8a,504a These seem to be later additional details relating to an original typed entry Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chester,8a,504 As you see, the first handwritten entry, like the original typed line, refers to Chester, but after the first version was crossed out a second version has Chelsea instead of Chester as district. Hence the #THEORY(2) line. Jeff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there any rule or guideline about what to do when both #COMMENT and #THEORY are appropriate in a particular case? The query arises from 1931B3-B-0073 where the handwritten tries for Bennett,Eileen M. have been transcribed thus Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chester,8a,504a #COMMENT (2) Entry reads BANKS OR BENNETT for Mother's name and is crossed through Bennett,Eileen M.,Bennett,Chester,8a,504a Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chelsea,8a,504a #COMMENT(2) Entry reads BANKS OR BENNETT for Mother's name #THEORY (2) District name should be Chester Bennett,Eileen M.,Bennett,Chelsea,8a,504a These seem to be later additional details relating to an original typed entry Bennett,Eileen M.,Banks,Chester,8a,504 As you see, the first handwritten entry, like the original typed line, refers to Chester, but after the first version was crossed out a second version has Chelsea instead of Chester as district. Hence the #THEORY(2) line. Jeff

Having the TKB in Help File format (.chm) is not a good idea because it changes relatively often and transcribers would, almost always, be working with an out of date version. I suspect this all came from the thread with the subject "Indexing information for transcribers" which was about providing a searchable index of information for new transcribers' help information. It was suggested that Windows Help would be a solution to this, but I was unclear whether it was intended for this to be a client side help system (.chm file) or a web based help system authored using the Microsoft HTMLHelp Workshop. Since we have non-Windows users I assume the latter. I have produced a searchable index of the existing html (see separate posting) but if the Help File route is what is required then we need to find someone to do it and a process to handle it. However, it would surely be sensible in this case to revise the information first, indeed since Windows Help is structured it may be essential. But isn't this is where all this started, the observation that the help information is not user friendly and, by implication, needed revising? Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Allan Raymond > Sent: 28 January 2009 20:40 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Help file for FreeBMD > > Can my new transcriber assist the FreeBMD team in producing a > TKB in help > file format. > > However please be warned my new transcriber hasn't done help > file work for > quite a long time. > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:02 PM > Subject: RE: Help file for FreeBMD > > > What was the question? > > Barrie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > Christopher Richards > > Sent: 28 January 2009 17:35 > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Help file for FreeBMD > > > > I've just taken on a new transcriber who has recently been made > > redundant as a computer programmer. I asked her about help files... > > > > This was the reply > > > > It's a _very_ long time since I've written any help files > > (for Windows > > apps), so can't remember much about it, but I've also written > > documents > > with XML markup and run them through parsing software to > > correct errors, > > so I have a bit of a clue about that sort of thing. If > > someone can tell > > me what is required and how to go about it, I'll be happy to > > put in the > > time and effort to produce a suitable help document. > > Looking forward to hearing from you again, > > > > Is this what we are looking for... > > > > Christopher Richards > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >

Can my new transcriber assist the FreeBMD team in producing a TKB in help file format. However please be warned my new transcriber hasn't done help file work for quite a long time. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: RE: Help file for FreeBMD What was the question? Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Richards > Sent: 28 January 2009 17:35 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Help file for FreeBMD > > I've just taken on a new transcriber who has recently been made > redundant as a computer programmer. I asked her about help files... > > This was the reply > > It's a _very_ long time since I've written any help files > (for Windows > apps), so can't remember much about it, but I've also written > documents > with XML markup and run them through parsing software to > correct errors, > so I have a bit of a clue about that sort of thing. If > someone can tell > me what is required and how to go about it, I'll be happy to > put in the > time and effort to produce a suitable help document. > Looking forward to hearing from you again, > > Is this what we are looking for... > > Christopher Richards > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barrie Nope! http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#3b was based on my practical experience of trying to get WinBMD to work with Vista. UAC on means WinBMD works UAC off means no WinBMD and "Run time error 429 ActiveX component can not create object". Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD Allan, Do you run with UAC switched off? Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Allan Raymond > Sent: 28 January 2009 17:20 > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > I'm not necessarily saying my process is correct but it works > perfectly for > me without any problems. > > 1. I'm using Vista, so I know it works > > 2. I set up a new Folder C:\WinBMD > > 3. I downloaded and saved WinBMD (ignoring any problems with > Run time error > 429 error) to this folder when requested where to save to. > > 4. The default for saved files is in the Output folder which is > automatically set up as a sub folder of WinBMD folder, which > in my case is > C:\WinBMD\Output > > I can guarantee the files are easily found in > C:\WinBMD\Output which is why > I keep saying I can't understand why transcribers can't find > their files if > using Vista. > > I seem to recollect this is what I did when I had Windows 98 > before moving > across to Vista. > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:45 PM > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > > Oh, I thought you had WinBMD in c:\Program Files\WinBMD and > your data in > c:\WinBMD! > > So... > > 1) When you install WinBMD it puts the program in c:\Program > Files\WinBMD unless you specifically change it. So c:\Program > Files\WinBMD is the default. > > 2) My understanding would be that "a separate folder on your > hard drive" > means just that, it does not mean it has to be directly under c:, it > just means that it should not be in the same folder as SpeedBMD. As > evidence I would offer 1) above. Installing WinBMD in the SpeedBMD > folder would be pretty perverse but I guess the instruction is there > because somebody did it. > > 3) I don't have Vista so I cannot test this, but I assume that the way > you have it set up will *not* work under Vista in the sense > that output > files will still not be easily found. What Vista is trying to do is to > stop different users using the same part of fileststore and > it does this > by virtualising any attempt to write to the program location (be that > c:\Program Files\WinBMD or c:\WinBMD). > > I stand by my previous assertion, however, that the only sensible > default (nowadays) for the output is My Documents/WinBMD. > > Barrie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > Allan Raymond > > Sent: 28 January 2009 11:50 > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > Sorry I can't agree with with this assumption, purely from my > > layman's point > > of view. > > > > I took the instructions for installing WinBMD quite literal > > and installed > > the program in its own folder on the C; drive. The > > instructions states > > "WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be > > installed in > > the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard > > drive", whence I > > set up a WinBMD folder on the C; drive rather than a sub > > folder within the > > "Program" folder. > > > > When I save a WinBMD file it is either: > > > > Save Current Batch > > or > > Save Batch and Exit > > > > NEVER Save As.... > > > > Using my method any files are saved by default in a folder > > called "Output" > > below my WinBMD folder. > > > > So whenever I need to search for a file produced by WinBMD, I > > will find it > > in folder C:/WinBMD/Output which means it is quite accessible. > > > > Allan Raymond > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Archer Barrie" <Barrie.Archer@uk.fujitsu.com> > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:17 AM > > Subject: RE: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > Allan, > > > > The problem is that it is not the default. The default is a location > > that is not immediately accessible. > > > > Barrie > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:freebmd-syndicates-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > > Allan Raymond > > > Sent: 27 January 2009 20:09 > > > To: freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > A tick in the box. > > > > > > Exactly where my WinBMD resides, perhaps that is why I can't > > > see what all > > > the fuss is about anyone not being able to locate their files > > > to send to > > > their Coordinator. > > > > > > Allan Raymond > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bob Phillips" <robert.ph@ntlworld.com> > > > To: <freebmd-syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > > > > How about making the default installation folder > > > C:\WinBMD > > > instead of the standard > > > C:\Program Files\WinBMD > > > which should stop Windows Vista from changing the Save location. > > > > > > cheers > > > Bob Phillips > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nowl" <owl.news@zen.co.uk> > > > To: <FreeBMD-Syndicates@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wish list for WinBMD > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Richards wrote on Tue, 27 Jan 2009: > > > > > > > >>I'm wondering if there is a simpler solution. An option > > to "prepare > > > >>file for emailing". This would save a copy on the desktop. > > > From there > > > >>it is easy to find it and attach it to an email whatever > > > system one is > > > >>using. > > > > > > > > Oh no, *please* don't let's encourage people to copy > files to the > > > > desktop! This is exactly what leads to the multiple-version > > > nightmare I > > > > posted about last week (see thread "Save As headaches". > > > > > > > > I agree with Barrie and think the core problem is the > > Save Path. I'd > > > > like to see WinBMD, when first run, ask the user to choose > > > or create a > > > > folder in which to store their work, perhaps offering > to create a > > > > subfolder of My Documents by default. > > > > -- > > > > Nowl > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' > > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release > > > Date: 1/27/2009 > > > 7:26 AM > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > > of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-SYNDICATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message