Thanks Allan, On the particular page in question (1862B1-1344) there are at least 2 other instances where the forenames *don't* overflow into the district field, yet the district is moved down a line. They are:- WARRINGTON, Emma Constantine & VASEL*S, Matilda Elizabeth; as well as quite a number of cases where the first line against the surname is blank and the first forename/s are down a line. Sorry if this is being a pain - as you say we can't be *sure* that Walter James doesn't belong in Kensington, and at the same time I think we can't be sure he doesn't belong in Pancras either. cheers........ Steve *Original Message* >The other entries are different. >My example, >WARREN Walter Frederick >WARREN Walter James Kensington 1a 159 Pancras 1b 128 >isn't the same as the example below, which presumable is what you are referring to >when a name overflows into the District field. >WARREN Walter Frederick Kensington 1a 159 <WARREN Walter James Pancras 1b 128 >For the entries you are referring to the District overflows to the next line and >you would type as one line. >Referring back to my example, as I mentioned in my earlier response, logic would >say move the name down one. But how can we be sure that WARREN Walter James >doesn't belong to Kensington 1a 159, after all it is on the same line? >Your suggestion about comments lines may possible be the answer. My understanding >is that we would use #THEORY perhaps the experts in these matters Dave or Graham >may wish to offer their views? >After the +PAGE and full stop discussions, I shudder to think about introducing >#THEORY. I don't think this is covered in our "Data Format" Web Page. >Regards >Allan Raymond [email protected] http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Monarchies_of_Europe.htm FreeBMD - putting birth marriages and deaths on the Internet http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 30 October 2001 19:51 Subject: Re: Can You Help Please I just had a look at the page in question and there are several places where the names and districts are on separate lines. Are all of these going to be treated in the way you suggest? It seems to me that *if* the district has been moved down one line because of a longish forename then to treat them as separate lines will be incorporating incorrect info into the database. Specifically, Walter James Warren's descendant will be thinking their ancestor was born in Kensington when he was *probably* born in Pancras. Would the use of "comment" lines be another option? Steve - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- *ORIGINAL MESSAGE* Hi Teri I see what you mean. Logically, you should move the 2 names down one line so that they line up with the rest of the information. However, you would be second guessing. My advice is to consider the 3 lines as three separate entries and to insert a "?" where the information is blank. In case anyone is confused by my response, the entries on the Index are thus. WARREN Walter Frederick WARREN Walter James Kensington 1a 159 Pancras 1b 128 i.e District,Vol and Page are missing on first line and Surname and Forename are missing on the third line Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gypsy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 29 October 2001 10:49 Subject: Can you help please Hi 1862B1-1344.tif has I believe 2 names out of place. Now usually we'd just enter them as is but I'm wondering if this is one of those anomalies. The names are WARREN Walter Frederick & WARREN Walter James. I'd appreciate your advice. ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp ______________________________
Hi Steve I wasn't 100% clear in my earlier response. The new examples which you quoted, e.g WARRINGTON, Emma Constantine Chorlton 8c 660 to my mind should be treated as one line even though the name doesn't actually overflow into the District Field. They still don't follow the example which Teri mentioned, viz. WARREN Walter Frederick WARREN Walter James Kensington 1a 159 Pancras 1b 128 I agree we can't be sure which District belongs to WARREN Walter James which is why I concurred that perhaps we should be using the #THEORY process. However, I would like the views of Dave or Graham whether this is the correct use of #THEORY. Allan Raymond [email protected] http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Monarchies_of_Europe.htm FreeBMD - putting birth marriages and deaths on the Internet http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 31 October 2001 19:51 Subject: Re:Can You Help Please Thanks Allan, On the particular page in question (1862B1-1344) there are at least 2 other instances where the forenames *don't* overflow into the district field, yet the district is moved down a line. They are:- WARRINGTON, Emma Constantine & VASEL*S, Matilda Elizabeth; as well as quite a number of cases where the first line against the surname is blank and the first forename/s are down a line. Sorry if this is being a pain - as you say we can't be *sure* that Walter James doesn't belong in Kensington, and at the same time I think we can't be sure he doesn't belong in Pancras either. cheers........ Steve *Original Message* >The other entries are different. >My example, >WARREN Walter Frederick >WARREN Walter James Kensington 1a 159 Pancras 1b 128 >isn't the same as the example below, which presumable is what you are referring to >when a name overflows into the District field. >WARREN Walter Frederick Kensington 1a 159 <WARREN Walter James Pancras 1b 128 >For the entries you are referring to the District overflows to the next line and >you would type as one line. >Referring back to my example, as I mentioned in my earlier response, logic would >say move the name down one. But how can we be sure that WARREN Walter James >doesn't belong to Kensington 1a 159, after all it is on the same line? >Your suggestion about comments lines may possible be the answer. My understanding >is that we would use #THEORY perhaps the experts in these matters Dave or Graham >may wish to offer their views? >After the +PAGE and full stop discussions, I shudder to think about introducing >#THEORY. I don't think this is covered in our "Data Format" Web Page. >Regards >Allan Raymond [email protected] http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Monarchies_of_Europe.htm FreeBMD - putting birth marriages and deaths on the Internet http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 30 October 2001 19:51 Subject: Re: Can You Help Please I just had a look at the page in question and there are several places where the names and districts are on separate lines. Are all of these going to be treated in the way you suggest? It seems to me that *if* the district has been moved down one line because of a longish forename then to treat them as separate lines will be incorporating incorrect info into the database. Specifically, Walter James Warren's descendant will be thinking their ancestor was born in Kensington when he was *probably* born in Pancras. Would the use of "comment" lines be another option? Steve - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- *ORIGINAL MESSAGE* Hi Teri I see what you mean. Logically, you should move the 2 names down one line so that they line up with the rest of the information. However, you would be second guessing. My advice is to consider the 3 lines as three separate entries and to insert a "?" where the information is blank. In case anyone is confused by my response, the entries on the Index are thus. WARREN Walter Frederick WARREN Walter James Kensington 1a 159 Pancras 1b 128 i.e District,Vol and Page are missing on first line and Surname and Forename are missing on the third line Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gypsy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 29 October 2001 10:49 Subject: Can you help please Hi 1862B1-1344.tif has I believe 2 names out of place. Now usually we'd just enter them as is but I'm wondering if this is one of those anomalies. The names are WARREN Walter Frederick & WARREN Walter James. I'd appreciate your advice. ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp ______________________________ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2