If you are talking about " accurate transcription " then why does WinBMD change the surnames from UPPER case to LOWER case ? Thus changing the EXACT copy of what is transcribed. I'm not trying to be awkward or dig up old discussions, but there seems to be a lot of confusion. 6 months ago (fter transcribing for nearly 2 years), I started putting in full stops after JOHN P. as I thought that is what was required, now I'm being told differently. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Gaunt [mailto:steve@email.hinet.hr] Sent: 06 September 2003 12:03 To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: re: fullstops. The only reasons for putting the fullstops as far as I know are: 1. Something to do with consistancy in transcribing and the software at FreeBMD and double keying. 2. A promise to transcribe the data as is. If the software is based an the accurate transcription of every fullstop, comma, etc, then there is the need to transcribe as is, though I am told that double keying would involve different source, which may not even carry the full stop, though I may have that wrong (David, refresh my memory) Other than the two reasons stated above, there is no reason at all to transcribe full stops. The original handwritten scans didn't carry them; they were put there in later versions. So: perhaps the software can be "rewired" so that full stops have no significance? Then it wouldn't matter if they were transcribed or not. As for the second reason, I doubt if whoever the promise was made to would care in the slightest about full stops. Perhaps they should be approached? We have already broken from the promise to reproduce as is by the insertion of surnames where duplicate surnames are indicated by a line. Perhaps also the software can be "rewired" so that full stops have no significance? Then it wouldn't matter if they were transcribed or not. It would also stop these discussions popping up every six month or so. Steve Gaunt ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I can't understand why on one page you get variations David P............... John P. .............. Both of these would be transcribed differently David P and John P. as one has a space after the full stop Andrew -----Original Message----- From: John Ellwood [mailto:john.gw4jlk@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 06 September 2003 09:49 To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fullstops in the Forename column. With great trepidation I want to comment on fullstops in the forename column. Entering this vital information has slowed down my input and not made me a happy bunny. So... I have added a fullstop to every name in the bmdname 2 file (accessed through Windows Explorer). This saves me some backspacing and fullstopping! Obviously if there multiple names I lose out, but I do have an overall gain I have install a copy of my BMD system, without my modification, on a separate drive. So if I am lucky enough to get pages without the dreaded fullstops I can get back to normality. Obviously there must be millions of transcribed entries without the stops so surely a bulk entry system is going to be needed. Could I pleaded with the authorities for this to be done sooner rather than later and be made available to necessary evils like myself? John Ellwood ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

If full stops are important, isn't that data as well?? This is what I posted NEARLY FOUR YEARS AGO. (20th January 2000 - DISCUSS list) quote..... Having been allocated Births 1858 Sep as part of the web scan syndicate, I duly did my bit of these nice type style pages. My modus operandi is to check prints of my SpeedBMD files against the books at the FRC on my rare visits there. (It is a 250 mile round trip for me.) I went this week. I was surprised to find that the books at the FRC for this quarter were still of the Handwritten Copper Plate variety. Surely if someone in the past has typed the data for the production of fiche, the FRC should be using that typed data. Why aren't they?? They are not making life easy for the general users, are they? The same was true of Births 1854 Sep, which I had also been allocated. Secondly I noticed that the books had names along the lines of Smith, Ann Elizabeth, whereas the typed fiche had the name converted to Smith, Ann E. This again, I consider is not in the best interests of the users. I declined to enhance all my names to the full middle name variety, but ponder the loss of data that will result in FreeBMD. Any comments? ..... unquote. I never got a reply - not at all. It just goes to show that capitalisation and punctuation is seen by the top table are FAR MORE IMPORTANT than the names we transcribe. Ah hem;-) John Fairlie Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com -----Original Message----- From: Lucille Hambling [mailto:l.hambling@ntlworld.com] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:44 AM To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: FULLSTOPS I second everything Andrew has said. I don't think full stops have any importance and as a member of the searching Joe Public, as long as I get the names, dates and places, that is all I want. It is far more important that emphasis is put on transcribing the names as-is, because a full stop is not going to alter the information the words provide. Lucille ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I second everything Andrew has said. I don't think full stops have any importance and as a member of the searching Joe Public, as long as I get the names, dates and places, that is all I want. It is far more important that emphasis is put on transcribing the names as-is, because a full stop is not going to alter the information the words provide. Lucille

I agree, I thought blind obedience was necessary only under a dictatorship, having opinions and voicing them is known as democracy......Jean Lucille Hambling wrote: > > Do I understand from Helen and Loraine that we should not have an opinion or > just not voice it? Should we be mindless drones who transcribe day and > night and not take time to do other things on the computer such as read > e-mails, write messages or anything else we choose to do, when taking a > break from transcribing. > > If the subject of 'full stops' bothers some people then why open the message > > Lucille > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I'm sure this has been said before, and I understand that FreeBMD is doing an EXACT transcription of the indexes, but are FULL STOPS really that important ? Joe Public who is searching the index for a name won't care if there is a full stop or not, and the full stop isn't relevant in the searches. I'm sure the GRO won't care if a full stop is there or not when the someone requests a certificate, so why is there such a big fuss about them ? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: John Ellwood [mailto:john.gw4jlk@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 06 September 2003 09:49 To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fullstops in the Forename column. With great trepidation I want to comment on fullstops in the forename column. Entering this vital information has slowed down my input and not made me a happy bunny. So... I have added a fullstop to every name in the bmdname 2 file (accessed through Windows Explorer). This saves me some backspacing and fullstopping! Obviously if there multiple names I lose out, but I do have an overall gain I have install a copy of my BMD system, without my modification, on a separate drive. So if I am lucky enough to get pages without the dreaded fullstops I can get back to normality. Obviously there must be millions of transcribed entries without the stops so surely a bulk entry system is going to be needed. Could I pleaded with the authorities for this to be done sooner rather than later and be made available to necessary evils like myself? John Ellwood ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

If it's difficult to keep the transcribers supplied with sufficient scans of acceptable quality, then I would have thought it imminently suitable and sensible to spend time correcting existing entries. Why the big aversion to this?? It was Dave Mayall in his message to the Discuss list on 11th August that said.... Quote 4) Should we have people going to the FRC to check entries? a) Yes, and at some point we will arrange this formally 5) Should we be producing suspect entry reports? a) Yes, and we will. Unquote I still think that while Derek Hopkins (and other syndicate co-ords) may OPT to take on upwards of 3,300 transcribers, if those transcribers do not get the support they need and the co-ords have to place e-mails like Derek Hopkins did, then FreeBMD should not ALLOW that many volunteers in a single syndicate. Allan Raymond says below that there are more volunteers for syndicate co-ords waiting in the wings. Why not accept them and get syndicates started on correcting entries??? John Fairlie Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond [mailto:allan_raymond@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:24 PM To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 Andrew I'm the individual that actually sets up any new Syndicates. I have a standard letter which I send out to individuals who have requested to set up their own Syndicate. Basically it says, **************************************************************************** **************** Two of the main requirements for co-ordinators of Syndicates are: 1) Have a bent for administration, as co-ordinators need to keep records of what's been allocated to their volunteers and just as important what has been transcribed by their volunteers. 2) We expect all our Co-ordinators to have some experience as a transcriber in an existing Syndicate. There's no hard and fast rule regarding this, but I would generally be looking for 6 months in an existing Syndicate with a reasonable number of files uploaded to FreeBMD as a starting point. etc 5. I have a problem at the moment in not being able to supply sufficient scans of acceptable quality to our existing Syndicates. I wouldn't wish to set up any new Syndicates to the detriment of existing Syndicates. 6. I am collating a list of potential co-ordinators and will only be including in it, volunteers who meet the requirements of 2) above. If you believe you meet this requirement could you please let me know, otherwise I will be deleting your initial request from my request queue? **************************************************************************** ********** Individuals who report back to me and meet the criteria set are placed in a queue pending sufficient scans to meet the requirements of existing Syndicates. Currently I have about 15 individuals in this queue I am not aware that I would have indicated to you or any other potential new Co-ordinator about the need for volunteers to correct existing entries. If I have done this it was unintentional on my part, If it wasn't me could you please let me know off list who was advising of this requirement? Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Davison <andrew.davison@blueyonder.co.uk> To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com <FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 05 September 2003 18:48 Subject: RE: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 >I asked in the past what was required to be a co-ordinator, and I was told >that they didn't need anyone else. They just needed someone to correct >existing entries. > >Andrew > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Fairlie [mailto:john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk] >Sent: 05 September 2003 16:32 >To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 > >(Transferred to the DISCUSS list) > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy is a syndicate leader with about 3,300 >members in his syndicate!!!!! > >Sheesh! If each only writes to him once a year, he is gonna get ten e-mails >a day!! No wonder the guy is about to flip!! > >And already today we have heard of someone with a cool 325,000 records to >their name throwing in the towel. makes my <25,000 seem pathetic. > >Isn't it time a trawl was put out for more chiefs instead of more Indians? >The guy needs help. > >John Fairlie >Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com > john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk >Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Derek C Hopkins [mailto:derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca] >Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:11 PM >To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! Jean 597] >Importance: High > > >Hi Jean and all Scan2 transcribers. > > I am one person working 10 hours a day on FreeBMD Please give me a >break. With Sue away till the 10th I am fighting a loosing battle with my >Email basket. This checking for files not uploaded has opened a can of >worms. > > There is a bug in the software feeding me the information from >FreeBMD > There are file names that do not conform to Scan2's guide lines. > There are people who have not kept copies of their transcriptions > There are people asking questions > Every one is in a queue that is increasing in size > > Please DO NOT EXPECT ANSWERS from me for at least a week while I >try to catch up. > > Just keep on transcribing and sending pages to both FreeBMD and by >"Send to Derek" this is automated and does not need my time to process. > > Sue Burton will be back by the 10th then we should be able to >catch-up. > > Please bear with me for a bit. > > JUST IGNORE THE RED MESSAGES FOR AWHILE (They will go eventually) > >At 09:19 PM 04/09/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>Actually I have been given this whole situation a lot of >>thought....every one of those "RED ITEMS" that appear on my allocation >>pages I can quite happily access on File Management...in perfect >>sequence, and right where they should be, but after a full week they are >>still there (except for 93b3_049 which I do not have a copy of, which I >>have repeatedly asked for a copy of (from my coordinator) but to no >>avail.....also I am receiving repeated requests from the District Alias >>Team to make amendments/corrections etc to previous transcriptions, >>which if I do as they request, would be in direct contravention of the >>instructions set out on the Allocation pages for Scan2 (my >>syndicate)....I have, for the past week, tried to contact my >>co-ordinator about these things.......Sue B my assistant co-ordinator >>is, unfortunately for me, off on a much overdue holiday...this I regret >>as she has always been there for me with an answer, or a reasonable >>explanation, my one voice in the wilderness......my husband and I have >>also, for the past week been away on a much needed R&R, but since I have >>access to a remote computer I have continued to transcribe, upload and >>copy to Derek Hopkins (my coordinator) my own personally regulated one >>page a day, with my daughter at home doing the >>necessaries....unfortunately my firewall put an Email message from Derek >>into DELETE and my daughter inadvertently let the delete go >>through.....but that does not alter my decision here......without the >>needed support to the many queries, probelms and new addenda that is >>forthcoming every day from a very much expanding FREEBMD network, I for >>one am ready to call it quits.....after only 325,000 entries ( a far cry >>from your bench mark of one Million entries needed for special mention >>isn't it Derek??) I regret very much to say I SUCCUMB!!!!!!I >>CAPITULATE!!!!!!!I QUIT!!!!!!!! Whatever is there Derek you can cope >>with, please retrieve any all untranscribed scans from my Allocation >>pages...Jean Norley formerly Scan2 #597Return-Path: >><gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.219.64]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net >> (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with >ESMTP >> id >> <20030904230346.EBCE26545.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> >> for <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca>; Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:03:46 -0400 >>Message-ID: <3F57C4D7.E5588054@sympatico.ca> >>Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:03:51 -0400 >>From: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) >>X-Accept-Language: en >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>To: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>Subject: Re: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >>REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! >> Jean 597 >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >>References: <3F569FEF.5E99DF15@sympatico.ca> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >> >>Sorry Derek or whoever, apparently you replied to this message but my >>firewall deleted it...would you resend it please.......sorry about >>that....Jean >> >>gordon norley wrote: >> > >> > All of those Items were checked and rechecked last week, as of August >> > 30th, every one was where it should be on the upload except for >> > 93d4_145...I don't have that transcribed scan...if you would be kind >> > enough to forward me the copy I would be only too happy to reupload >> > it......Jean > > >Cheers Derek > >Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 >Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca >QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > >==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions ><http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > >==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/scan2.html > >Check out my web page (22jan1997) Last Revised 28 May 1998 ><http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/index.html> > >Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2000, 195,000 names) ><http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/abney.html> > >Check out my web Ramsgate page ><http://members.adept.co.uk/hopkde> > >Check out the Quebec Family History web page ><http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html> > > >==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== >FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

With great trepidation I want to comment on fullstops in the forename column. Entering this vital information has slowed down my input and not made me a happy bunny. So... I have added a fullstop to every name in the bmdname 2 file (accessed through Windows Explorer). This saves me some backspacing and fullstopping! Obviously if there multiple names I lose out, but I do have an overall gain I have install a copy of my BMD system, without my modification, on a separate drive. So if I am lucky enough to get pages without the dreaded fullstops I can get back to normality. Obviously there must be millions of transcribed entries without the stops so surely a bulk entry system is going to be needed. Could I pleaded with the authorities for this to be done sooner rather than later and be made available to necessary evils like myself? John Ellwood

Hi Keith, I use a Mac for transcription and have done many files for FreeBMD with and without accents. If you want to forward your file to me to look at to see if I can see anything that might help, please go ahead and do that. Best Shirley

Hi Keith If you press F4 it will give you a list of characters with accents all you have to do is double click on the one you want. Lucille

Andrew I'm the individual that actually sets up any new Syndicates. I have a standard letter which I send out to individuals who have requested to set up their own Syndicate. Basically it says, **************************************************************************** **************** Two of the main requirements for co-ordinators of Syndicates are: 1) Have a bent for administration, as co-ordinators need to keep records of what's been allocated to their volunteers and just as important what has been transcribed by their volunteers. 2) We expect all our Co-ordinators to have some experience as a transcriber in an existing Syndicate. There's no hard and fast rule regarding this, but I would generally be looking for 6 months in an existing Syndicate with a reasonable number of files uploaded to FreeBMD as a starting point. etc 5. I have a problem at the moment in not being able to supply sufficient scans of acceptable quality to our existing Syndicates. I wouldn't wish to set up any new Syndicates to the detriment of existing Syndicates. 6. I am collating a list of potential co-ordinators and will only be including in it, volunteers who meet the requirements of 2) above. If you believe you meet this requirement could you please let me know, otherwise I will be deleting your initial request from my request queue? **************************************************************************** ********** Individuals who report back to me and meet the criteria set are placed in a queue pending sufficient scans to meet the requirements of existing Syndicates. Currently I have about 15 individuals in this queue I am not aware that I would have indicated to you or any other potential new Co-ordinator about the need for volunteers to correct existing entries. If I have done this it was unintentional on my part, If it wasn't me could you please let me know off list who was advising of this requirement? Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Davison <andrew.davison@blueyonder.co.uk> To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com <FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 05 September 2003 18:48 Subject: RE: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 >I asked in the past what was required to be a co-ordinator, and I was told >that they didn't need anyone else. They just needed someone to correct >existing entries. > >Andrew > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Fairlie [mailto:john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk] >Sent: 05 September 2003 16:32 >To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 > >(Transferred to the DISCUSS list) > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy is a syndicate leader with about 3,300 >members in his syndicate!!!!! > >Sheesh! If each only writes to him once a year, he is gonna get ten e-mails >a day!! No wonder the guy is about to flip!! > >And already today we have heard of someone with a cool 325,000 records to >their name throwing in the towel. makes my <25,000 seem pathetic. > >Isn't it time a trawl was put out for more chiefs instead of more Indians? >The guy needs help. > >John Fairlie >Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com > john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk >Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Derek C Hopkins [mailto:derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca] >Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:11 PM >To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! Jean 597] >Importance: High > > >Hi Jean and all Scan2 transcribers. > > I am one person working 10 hours a day on FreeBMD Please give me a >break. With Sue away till the 10th I am fighting a loosing battle with my >Email basket. This checking for files not uploaded has opened a can of >worms. > > There is a bug in the software feeding me the information from >FreeBMD > There are file names that do not conform to Scan2's guide lines. > There are people who have not kept copies of their transcriptions > There are people asking questions > Every one is in a queue that is increasing in size > > Please DO NOT EXPECT ANSWERS from me for at least a week while I >try to catch up. > > Just keep on transcribing and sending pages to both FreeBMD and by >"Send to Derek" this is automated and does not need my time to process. > > Sue Burton will be back by the 10th then we should be able to >catch-up. > > Please bear with me for a bit. > > JUST IGNORE THE RED MESSAGES FOR AWHILE (They will go eventually) > >At 09:19 PM 04/09/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>Actually I have been given this whole situation a lot of >>thought....every one of those "RED ITEMS" that appear on my allocation >>pages I can quite happily access on File Management...in perfect >>sequence, and right where they should be, but after a full week they are >>still there (except for 93b3_049 which I do not have a copy of, which I >>have repeatedly asked for a copy of (from my coordinator) but to no >>avail.....also I am receiving repeated requests from the District Alias >>Team to make amendments/corrections etc to previous transcriptions, >>which if I do as they request, would be in direct contravention of the >>instructions set out on the Allocation pages for Scan2 (my >>syndicate)....I have, for the past week, tried to contact my >>co-ordinator about these things.......Sue B my assistant co-ordinator >>is, unfortunately for me, off on a much overdue holiday...this I regret >>as she has always been there for me with an answer, or a reasonable >>explanation, my one voice in the wilderness......my husband and I have >>also, for the past week been away on a much needed R&R, but since I have >>access to a remote computer I have continued to transcribe, upload and >>copy to Derek Hopkins (my coordinator) my own personally regulated one >>page a day, with my daughter at home doing the >>necessaries....unfortunately my firewall put an Email message from Derek >>into DELETE and my daughter inadvertently let the delete go >>through.....but that does not alter my decision here......without the >>needed support to the many queries, probelms and new addenda that is >>forthcoming every day from a very much expanding FREEBMD network, I for >>one am ready to call it quits.....after only 325,000 entries ( a far cry >>from your bench mark of one Million entries needed for special mention >>isn't it Derek??) I regret very much to say I SUCCUMB!!!!!!I >>CAPITULATE!!!!!!!I QUIT!!!!!!!! Whatever is there Derek you can cope >>with, please retrieve any all untranscribed scans from my Allocation >>pages...Jean Norley formerly Scan2 #597Return-Path: >><gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.219.64]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net >> (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with >ESMTP >> id >> <20030904230346.EBCE26545.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> >> for <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca>; Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:03:46 -0400 >>Message-ID: <3F57C4D7.E5588054@sympatico.ca> >>Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:03:51 -0400 >>From: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) >>X-Accept-Language: en >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>To: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>Subject: Re: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >>REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! >> Jean 597 >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >>References: <3F569FEF.5E99DF15@sympatico.ca> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >> >>Sorry Derek or whoever, apparently you replied to this message but my >>firewall deleted it...would you resend it please.......sorry about >>that....Jean >> >>gordon norley wrote: >> > >> > All of those Items were checked and rechecked last week, as of August >> > 30th, every one was where it should be on the upload except for >> > 93d4_145...I don't have that transcribed scan...if you would be kind >> > enough to forward me the copy I would be only too happy to reupload >> > it......Jean > > >Cheers Derek > >Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 >Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca >QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > >==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions ><http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > >==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/scan2.html > >Check out my web page (22jan1997) Last Revised 28 May 1998 ><http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/index.html> > >Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2000, 195,000 names) ><http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/abney.html> > >Check out my web Ramsgate page ><http://members.adept.co.uk/hopkde> > >Check out the Quebec Family History web page ><http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html> > > >==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== >FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Each Co-ordinator has the option to turn off the "accepting volunteers" button for their Syndicate. All Co-ordinators do this on a regular basis. Each Co-ordinator has the option to take on more volunteers to help with their Syndicate Administration. Some are already doing this, Scan2 is one of them. Allan Raymond -----Original Message----- From: John Fairlie <john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk> To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com <FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 05 September 2003 16:33 Subject: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 >(Transferred to the DISCUSS list) > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy is a syndicate leader with about 3,300 >members in his syndicate!!!!! > >Sheesh! If each only writes to him once a year, he is gonna get ten e-mails >a day!! No wonder the guy is about to flip!! > >And already today we have heard of someone with a cool 325,000 records to >their name throwing in the towel. makes my <25,000 seem pathetic. > >Isn't it time a trawl was put out for more chiefs instead of more Indians? >The guy needs help. > >John Fairlie >Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com > john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk >Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Derek C Hopkins [mailto:derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca] >Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:11 PM >To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! Jean 597] >Importance: High > > >Hi Jean and all Scan2 transcribers. > > I am one person working 10 hours a day on FreeBMD Please give me a >break. With Sue away till the 10th I am fighting a loosing battle with my >Email basket. This checking for files not uploaded has opened a can of >worms. > > There is a bug in the software feeding me the information from >FreeBMD > There are file names that do not conform to Scan2's guide lines. > There are people who have not kept copies of their transcriptions > There are people asking questions > Every one is in a queue that is increasing in size > > Please DO NOT EXPECT ANSWERS from me for at least a week while I >try to catch up. > > Just keep on transcribing and sending pages to both FreeBMD and by >"Send to Derek" this is automated and does not need my time to process. > > Sue Burton will be back by the 10th then we should be able to >catch-up. > > Please bear with me for a bit. > > JUST IGNORE THE RED MESSAGES FOR AWHILE (They will go eventually) > >At 09:19 PM 04/09/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>Actually I have been given this whole situation a lot of >>thought....every one of those "RED ITEMS" that appear on my allocation >>pages I can quite happily access on File Management...in perfect >>sequence, and right where they should be, but after a full week they are >>still there (except for 93b3_049 which I do not have a copy of, which I >>have repeatedly asked for a copy of (from my coordinator) but to no >>avail.....also I am receiving repeated requests from the District Alias >>Team to make amendments/corrections etc to previous transcriptions, >>which if I do as they request, would be in direct contravention of the >>instructions set out on the Allocation pages for Scan2 (my >>syndicate)....I have, for the past week, tried to contact my >>co-ordinator about these things.......Sue B my assistant co-ordinator >>is, unfortunately for me, off on a much overdue holiday...this I regret >>as she has always been there for me with an answer, or a reasonable >>explanation, my one voice in the wilderness......my husband and I have >>also, for the past week been away on a much needed R&R, but since I have >>access to a remote computer I have continued to transcribe, upload and >>copy to Derek Hopkins (my coordinator) my own personally regulated one >>page a day, with my daughter at home doing the >>necessaries....unfortunately my firewall put an Email message from Derek >>into DELETE and my daughter inadvertently let the delete go >>through.....but that does not alter my decision here......without the >>needed support to the many queries, probelms and new addenda that is >>forthcoming every day from a very much expanding FREEBMD network, I for >>one am ready to call it quits.....after only 325,000 entries ( a far cry >>from your bench mark of one Million entries needed for special mention >>isn't it Derek??) I regret very much to say I SUCCUMB!!!!!!I >>CAPITULATE!!!!!!!I QUIT!!!!!!!! Whatever is there Derek you can cope >>with, please retrieve any all untranscribed scans from my Allocation >>pages...Jean Norley formerly Scan2 #597Return-Path: >><gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.219.64]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net >> (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with >ESMTP >> id >> <20030904230346.EBCE26545.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> >> for <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca>; Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:03:46 -0400 >>Message-ID: <3F57C4D7.E5588054@sympatico.ca> >>Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:03:51 -0400 >>From: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) >>X-Accept-Language: en >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>To: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >>Subject: Re: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >>REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! >> Jean 597 >>X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >>References: <3F569FEF.5E99DF15@sympatico.ca> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >> >>Sorry Derek or whoever, apparently you replied to this message but my >>firewall deleted it...would you resend it please.......sorry about >>that....Jean >> >>gordon norley wrote: >> > >> > All of those Items were checked and rechecked last week, as of August >> > 30th, every one was where it should be on the upload except for >> > 93d4_145...I don't have that transcribed scan...if you would be kind >> > enough to forward me the copy I would be only too happy to reupload >> > it......Jean > > >Cheers Derek > >Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 >6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 >Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca >QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. > >==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions ><http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> > >==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) >Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/scan2.html > >Check out my web page (22jan1997) Last Revised 28 May 1998 ><http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/index.html> > >Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2000, 195,000 names) ><http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/abney.html> > >Check out my web Ramsgate page ><http://members.adept.co.uk/hopkde> > >Check out the Quebec Family History web page ><http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html> > > >==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== >FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I asked in the past what was required to be a co-ordinator, and I was told that they didn't need anyone else. They just needed someone to correct existing entries. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: John Fairlie [mailto:john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 05 September 2003 16:32 To: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Derek Hopkins - Scan2 (Transferred to the DISCUSS list) Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy is a syndicate leader with about 3,300 members in his syndicate!!!!! Sheesh! If each only writes to him once a year, he is gonna get ten e-mails a day!! No wonder the guy is about to flip!! And already today we have heard of someone with a cool 325,000 records to their name throwing in the towel. makes my <25,000 seem pathetic. Isn't it time a trawl was put out for more chiefs instead of more Indians? The guy needs help. John Fairlie Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com -----Original Message----- From: Derek C Hopkins [mailto:derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:11 PM To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! Jean 597] Importance: High Hi Jean and all Scan2 transcribers. I am one person working 10 hours a day on FreeBMD Please give me a break. With Sue away till the 10th I am fighting a loosing battle with my Email basket. This checking for files not uploaded has opened a can of worms. There is a bug in the software feeding me the information from FreeBMD There are file names that do not conform to Scan2's guide lines. There are people who have not kept copies of their transcriptions There are people asking questions Every one is in a queue that is increasing in size Please DO NOT EXPECT ANSWERS from me for at least a week while I try to catch up. Just keep on transcribing and sending pages to both FreeBMD and by "Send to Derek" this is automated and does not need my time to process. Sue Burton will be back by the 10th then we should be able to catch-up. Please bear with me for a bit. JUST IGNORE THE RED MESSAGES FOR AWHILE (They will go eventually) At 09:19 PM 04/09/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Actually I have been given this whole situation a lot of >thought....every one of those "RED ITEMS" that appear on my allocation >pages I can quite happily access on File Management...in perfect >sequence, and right where they should be, but after a full week they are >still there (except for 93b3_049 which I do not have a copy of, which I >have repeatedly asked for a copy of (from my coordinator) but to no >avail.....also I am receiving repeated requests from the District Alias >Team to make amendments/corrections etc to previous transcriptions, >which if I do as they request, would be in direct contravention of the >instructions set out on the Allocation pages for Scan2 (my >syndicate)....I have, for the past week, tried to contact my >co-ordinator about these things.......Sue B my assistant co-ordinator >is, unfortunately for me, off on a much overdue holiday...this I regret >as she has always been there for me with an answer, or a reasonable >explanation, my one voice in the wilderness......my husband and I have >also, for the past week been away on a much needed R&R, but since I have >access to a remote computer I have continued to transcribe, upload and >copy to Derek Hopkins (my coordinator) my own personally regulated one >page a day, with my daughter at home doing the >necessaries....unfortunately my firewall put an Email message from Derek >into DELETE and my daughter inadvertently let the delete go >through.....but that does not alter my decision here......without the >needed support to the many queries, probelms and new addenda that is >forthcoming every day from a very much expanding FREEBMD network, I for >one am ready to call it quits.....after only 325,000 entries ( a far cry >from your bench mark of one Million entries needed for special mention >isn't it Derek??) I regret very much to say I SUCCUMB!!!!!!I >CAPITULATE!!!!!!!I QUIT!!!!!!!! Whatever is there Derek you can cope >with, please retrieve any all untranscribed scans from my Allocation >pages...Jean Norley formerly Scan2 #597Return-Path: ><gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.219.64]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net > (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with ESMTP > id > <20030904230346.EBCE26545.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> > for <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca>; Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:03:46 -0400 >Message-ID: <3F57C4D7.E5588054@sympatico.ca> >Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:03:51 -0400 >From: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >Subject: Re: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! > Jean 597 >X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >References: <3F569FEF.5E99DF15@sympatico.ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > >Sorry Derek or whoever, apparently you replied to this message but my >firewall deleted it...would you resend it please.......sorry about >that....Jean > >gordon norley wrote: > > > > All of those Items were checked and rechecked last week, as of August > > 30th, every one was where it should be on the upload except for > > 93d4_145...I don't have that transcribed scan...if you would be kind > > enough to forward me the copy I would be only too happy to reupload > > it......Jean Cheers Derek Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/scan2.html Check out my web page (22jan1997) Last Revised 28 May 1998 <http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/index.html> Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2000, 195,000 names) <http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/abney.html> Check out my web Ramsgate page <http://members.adept.co.uk/hopkde> Check out the Quebec Family History web page <http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html> ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

(Transferred to the DISCUSS list) Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy is a syndicate leader with about 3,300 members in his syndicate!!!!! Sheesh! If each only writes to him once a year, he is gonna get ten e-mails a day!! No wonder the guy is about to flip!! And already today we have heard of someone with a cool 325,000 records to their name throwing in the towel. makes my <25,000 seem pathetic. Isn't it time a trawl was put out for more chiefs instead of more Indians? The guy needs help. John Fairlie Mail us at ..... john@fairlie.plus.com john.fairlie@blueyonder.co.uk Home page... http://www.fairlie.plus.com -----Original Message----- From: Derek C Hopkins [mailto:derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:11 PM To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! Jean 597] Importance: High Hi Jean and all Scan2 transcribers. I am one person working 10 hours a day on FreeBMD Please give me a break. With Sue away till the 10th I am fighting a loosing battle with my Email basket. This checking for files not uploaded has opened a can of worms. There is a bug in the software feeding me the information from FreeBMD There are file names that do not conform to Scan2's guide lines. There are people who have not kept copies of their transcriptions There are people asking questions Every one is in a queue that is increasing in size Please DO NOT EXPECT ANSWERS from me for at least a week while I try to catch up. Just keep on transcribing and sending pages to both FreeBMD and by "Send to Derek" this is automated and does not need my time to process. Sue Burton will be back by the 10th then we should be able to catch-up. Please bear with me for a bit. JUST IGNORE THE RED MESSAGES FOR AWHILE (They will go eventually) At 09:19 PM 04/09/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Actually I have been given this whole situation a lot of >thought....every one of those "RED ITEMS" that appear on my allocation >pages I can quite happily access on File Management...in perfect >sequence, and right where they should be, but after a full week they are >still there (except for 93b3_049 which I do not have a copy of, which I >have repeatedly asked for a copy of (from my coordinator) but to no >avail.....also I am receiving repeated requests from the District Alias >Team to make amendments/corrections etc to previous transcriptions, >which if I do as they request, would be in direct contravention of the >instructions set out on the Allocation pages for Scan2 (my >syndicate)....I have, for the past week, tried to contact my >co-ordinator about these things.......Sue B my assistant co-ordinator >is, unfortunately for me, off on a much overdue holiday...this I regret >as she has always been there for me with an answer, or a reasonable >explanation, my one voice in the wilderness......my husband and I have >also, for the past week been away on a much needed R&R, but since I have >access to a remote computer I have continued to transcribe, upload and >copy to Derek Hopkins (my coordinator) my own personally regulated one >page a day, with my daughter at home doing the >necessaries....unfortunately my firewall put an Email message from Derek >into DELETE and my daughter inadvertently let the delete go >through.....but that does not alter my decision here......without the >needed support to the many queries, probelms and new addenda that is >forthcoming every day from a very much expanding FREEBMD network, I for >one am ready to call it quits.....after only 325,000 entries ( a far cry >from your bench mark of one Million entries needed for special mention >isn't it Derek??) I regret very much to say I SUCCUMB!!!!!!I >CAPITULATE!!!!!!!I QUIT!!!!!!!! Whatever is there Derek you can cope >with, please retrieve any all untranscribed scans from my Allocation >pages...Jean Norley formerly Scan2 #597Return-Path: ><gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.95.219.64]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net > (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with ESMTP > id > <20030904230346.EBCE26545.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> > for <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca>; Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:03:46 -0400 >Message-ID: <3F57C4D7.E5588054@sympatico.ca> >Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:03:51 -0400 >From: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: gordon norley <gordon.norley@sympatico.ca> >Subject: Re: RE; THOSE RED ITEMS ON MY ALLOCATION PAGES >REAPPEARING!!!!!!WHY!!!! > Jean 597 >X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >References: <3F569FEF.5E99DF15@sympatico.ca> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > >Sorry Derek or whoever, apparently you replied to this message but my >firewall deleted it...would you resend it please.......sorry about >that....Jean > >gordon norley wrote: > > > > All of those Items were checked and rechecked last week, as of August > > 30th, every one was where it should be on the upload except for > > 93d4_145...I don't have that transcribed scan...if you would be kind > > enough to forward me the copy I would be only too happy to reupload > > it......Jean Cheers Derek Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/scan2.html Check out my web page (22jan1997) Last Revised 28 May 1998 <http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/index.html> Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2000, 195,000 names) <http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/abney.html> Check out my web Ramsgate page <http://members.adept.co.uk/hopkde> Check out the Quebec Family History web page <http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html> ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I have the character - and I tried a direct patch like you suggested (I am on a Mac so F4 must be a PC thing - but I got one from Key Caps on my Mac - prior to that I used a key combination that puts one there) - but FreeBMD wont accept the file with it in there when I try to upload. Its the work round for THAT which I need. Keith

I have the name BÂTEAU with a circumflex on the first A, 1884 deaths 3rd Quarter I have it in my Simpletext file, but the upload to FreeBMD wont accept it - do I enclose the letter in quotes? I could find nothing in Archives of the Knowledge base that was directly relevant, nor in the DISCUSS archives. Keith

Thank you Dave Lucille -------Original Message------- From: Dave Mayall Date: 05 September 2003 12:17:34 To: Lucille Hambling Cc: FREEBMD-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: UPLOADING WITH WINBMD Quoting Lucille Hambling <l.hambling@ntlworld.com>: > Dave said > > <WinBMD doesn't try to upload to www.freebmd.org.uk though. It uploads to > www2.freebmd.org.uk> > > --------------- > > If WinBMD uploads to the above why does my upload log say www.freebmd.org > uk? Copy of log below. It is configured by default for www.freebmd.org.uk (and this will work, provided all servers are running. Every time you connect, FreeBMD sends WinBMD a message telling it which server to use for upload (it may not always be www2). I suspect that one of the many problems that ntl's setup is causing is that this message isn't getting through Open your winbmd.ini file, and alter website to read www2.freebmd.org.uk -- Dave Mayall ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net .

Quoting Lucille Hambling <l.hambling@ntlworld.com>: > Dave said > > <WinBMD doesn't try to upload to www.freebmd.org.uk though. It uploads to > www2.freebmd.org.uk> > > --------------- > > If WinBMD uploads to the above why does my upload log say www.freebmd.org > uk? Copy of log below. It is configured by default for www.freebmd.org.uk (and this will work, provided all servers are running. Every time you connect, FreeBMD sends WinBMD a message telling it which server to use for upload (it may not always be www2). I suspect that one of the many problems that ntl's setup is causing is that this message isn't getting through Open your winbmd.ini file, and alter website to read www2.freebmd.org.uk -- Dave Mayall ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Dave said <WinBMD doesn't try to upload to www.freebmd.org.uk though. It uploads to www2.freebmd.org.uk> --------------- If WinBMD uploads to the above why does my upload log say www.freebmd.org uk? Copy of log below. 05/09/03 10:57:55 Uploading 82D3031.SCA 05/09/03 10:57:55 Site=www.freebmd.org.uk Port=80 05/09/03 10:57:56 Connected for Send 05/09/03 10:57:56 Lines=381 05/09/03 10:57:56 Sending Header:- POST /cgi/bmd-files.pl HTTP/1.0 Accept: text/html User-Agent: WinBMD/4.4.0 Lucille

Quoting Lucille Hambling <l.hambling@ntlworld.com>: > Hi Joan > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Joan Beckley > Date: 05 September 2003 06:35:52 > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Norton interference with .sca > > > I have a file ready to go. How do I change the .sca to something else > that will upload to the FreeBMD site? .sca WILL upload (just ignore the fact that Norton says it owns them, they will still work just fine) > I have a problem uploading (still), but only from WinBMD I can now upload > from the file management page for Scan2. The file ending was not the problem > I still use .sca. The problem is something to do with the FreeBMD server, > I pinged the server and the information I received indicated that there were > two servers and it was switching between the two one seemed to be ok the > other was timing out - here is a copy of the ping results - > > H:\>ping www.freeBMD.org.uk > > Pinging www.freeBMD.org.uk [213.129.65.179] with 32 bytes of data: > > Reply from 213.129.65.179: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=50 > Reply from 213.129.65.179: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=50 > Reply from 213.129.65.179: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=50 > Reply from 213.129.65.179: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=50 > > H:\>ping www.freeBMD.org.uk > > Pinging www.freeBMD.org.uk [213.129.65.181] with 32 bytes of data: > > Request timed out. > Request timed out. > Request timed out. > Request timed out. > > A copy of this was sent to Dave, but he did not get back to me so I don't > have any more information. WinBMD doesn't try to upload to www.freebmd.org.uk though. It uploads to www2.freebmd.org.uk -- Dave Mayall ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net