Allan As a comparative newcomer to the transcriber ranks, my first uploads were not until March 2005, but I can confirm that none of my transcriptions have yet made it onto Ancestry. However, you are correct to say that their total is much higher than 62 million. Taking Martin's date of 24 Dec 2004 as a guide, it seems likely that Ancestry's version of the database dates back to FreeBMD's update of 27 Dec 2004. At that time there were 92,560,889 distinct records on FreeBMD. So FreeBMD currently has 19 million more entries than Ancestry, representing 17% of the total. Regards Barry Callaghan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Cope" <m_cope@btinternet.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Ancestry database > Allan, > > I asked a similar question on this list in October (thread titled > 'bouquets'). I then searched the Ancestry database for entries from the > files that I have uploaded to FreeBMD. The most recent entries present > were ones that I had uploaded on 24 Dec 2004. Entries from my next upload > on 11 Jan 2005 and more recent uploads were not there. > > A quick check today gives the same result! So I think the wording on the > Ancestry site is still correct. > > If FreeBMD is providing updated copies of the data to Ancestry, why are > they not loading it? Freezing on such an old version can only mislead many > Ancestry users and reflect poorly on FreeBMD. > > Martin Cope > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Raymond" <allan_raymond@btinternet.com> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:28 AM > Subject: Re: Ancestry database > > >> Barry >> >> I haven't gone back into the Ancestry Site to check out the information, >> but it's more likely the >> number of records in their database is closer to the 111 million than >> the 62 million records. >> >> I've requested Ancestry on two separate occasions, the last being on 25 >> August 2005 to update the >> "wording" on their site so that the 62 million figure is replaced by a >> more indicative 123 million >> figure and was advised they would take my request on board at a future >> date. >> >> Allan Raymond >> FreeBMD Co-ordinator of Syndicates >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barry Callaghan" <BarryC@dsl.pipex.com> >> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 12 January 2006 23:58 >> Subject: Ancestry database >> >> >> FreeBMD searches, particularly at busy times and whilst the hardware is >> being upgraded, can result >> in a message encouraging the free use of a copy of the database on >> Ancestry.com. >> >> Unfortunately, the version Ancestry has is woefully out of date - >> apparently containing 62 million >> records and last updated in February 2005. This compares rather >> unfavourably with the 111 million >> or so distinct records now on FreeBMD. >> >> Does anybody know if or when Ancestry plan to update their version of the >> database? >> >> Barry Callaghan >> > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD Transcribers homepage > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

When doing a search on FreeBMD the actual server which is being queried seems to be shown on the bottom LH corner of the screen. (This is using Mozilla). Quite often it is "ancestry.com". So I wonder if a copy of the database on ancestry is now included in the server network. Christopher Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Callaghan" <BarryC@dsl.pipex.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Ancestry database > Allan > > As a comparative newcomer to the transcriber ranks, my first uploads were > not until March 2005, but I can confirm that none of my transcriptions > have yet made it onto Ancestry. > > However, you are correct to say that their total is much higher than 62 > million. Taking Martin's date of 24 Dec 2004 as a guide, it seems likely > that Ancestry's version of the database dates back to FreeBMD's update of > 27 Dec 2004. At that time there were 92,560,889 distinct records on > FreeBMD. So FreeBMD currently has 19 million more entries than Ancestry, > representing 17% of the total. > > Regards > Barry Callaghan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Cope" <m_cope@btinternet.com> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:41 AM > Subject: Re: Ancestry database > > >> Allan, >> >> I asked a similar question on this list in October (thread titled >> 'bouquets'). I then searched the Ancestry database for entries from the >> files that I have uploaded to FreeBMD. The most recent entries present >> were ones that I had uploaded on 24 Dec 2004. Entries from my next upload >> on 11 Jan 2005 and more recent uploads were not there. >> >> A quick check today gives the same result! So I think the wording on the >> Ancestry site is still correct. >> >> If FreeBMD is providing updated copies of the data to Ancestry, why are >> they not loading it? Freezing on such an old version can only mislead >> many Ancestry users and reflect poorly on FreeBMD. >> >> Martin Cope >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Allan Raymond" <allan_raymond@btinternet.com> >> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:28 AM >> Subject: Re: Ancestry database >> >> >>> Barry >>> >>> I haven't gone back into the Ancestry Site to check out the information, >>> but it's more likely the >>> number of records in their database is closer to the 111 million than >>> the 62 million records. >>> >>> I've requested Ancestry on two separate occasions, the last being on 25 >>> August 2005 to update the >>> "wording" on their site so that the 62 million figure is replaced by a >>> more indicative 123 million >>> figure and was advised they would take my request on board at a future >>> date. >>> >>> Allan Raymond >>> FreeBMD Co-ordinator of Syndicates >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barry Callaghan" <BarryC@dsl.pipex.com> >>> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: 12 January 2006 23:58 >>> Subject: Ancestry database >>> >>> >>> FreeBMD searches, particularly at busy times and whilst the hardware is >>> being upgraded, can result >>> in a message encouraging the free use of a copy of the database on >>> Ancestry.com. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the version Ancestry has is woefully out of date - >>> apparently containing 62 million >>> records and last updated in February 2005. This compares rather >>> unfavourably with the 111 million >>> or so distinct records now on FreeBMD. >>> >>> Does anybody know if or when Ancestry plan to update their version of >>> the database? >>> >>> Barry Callaghan >>> >> >> >> ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== >> FreeBMD Transcribers homepage >> http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD Transcribers homepage > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Surely this only happens when you use the Search box at the top (headed by the Word Advertisement)? I have just done a search using the Search button at the bottom of the FreeBMD Home Page and it showed the search was being done on the FreeBMD servers. I then repeated the search using the top Advertisement box and got the Ancestry.com server. (all using IE) -- Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "CMR" <cmr1ch6rd7@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Ancestry database > When doing a search on FreeBMD the actual server which is being queried > seems to be shown on the bottom LH corner of the screen. (This is using > Mozilla). Quite often it is "ancestry.com". So I wonder if a copy of the > database on ancestry is now included in the server network. > > Christopher Richards

Barry, Where did you find the figure of 92 million for Dec 2004? FreeBMD's site gives the number of records at 24/8/2004 as 100,000,000 - although, if you plot the growth of records, this figure is out of whack with the growth in record numbers both before and after. Either way though - given the number of records as at Dec 5 2005 was 134,984,907 - this is more than twice the number Ancestry are stating. Stephen Rowe RaceTime / RaceNews Melbourne Australia Family Web: http://rowe.racetime.com.au web : http://www.racetime.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Barry Callaghan [mailto:BarryC@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Friday, 13 January 2006 11:23 PM To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Ancestry database Allan As a comparative newcomer to the transcriber ranks, my first uploads were not until March 2005, but I can confirm that none of my transcriptions have yet made it onto Ancestry. However, you are correct to say that their total is much higher than 62 million. Taking Martin's date of 24 Dec 2004 as a guide, it seems likely that Ancestry's version of the database dates back to FreeBMD's update of 27 Dec 2004. At that time there were 92,560,889 distinct records on FreeBMD. So FreeBMD currently has 19 million more entries than Ancestry, representing 17% of the total. Regards Barry Callaghan