Dear Sir > Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = > Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied = > online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = > they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = > supplied. > Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. > Yours faithfully > Dan Mullan > From: > "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> > =20 > To: > danmullan@eircom.net > =20 > Subject: > Refund COL655138 > =20 > Date: > Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 > =20 > Content-Type:=20 > text/plain > =20 > Dear Mr Mullan > Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert > ificate of Mary Ann > Green. > The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an > entry containing the > above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 > the indexes for the June > quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 > Green. Therefore, we are > unable to issue a certificate. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

Dan it would seem, looking at the available scan we have, which you can access yourself, that our data is correct - see 1853 births June page 1410 in the search images part of the site - Green Mary Ann Preston 6e 415 appears 4th from the bottom of the page Bronny ----- Original Message ----- From: danmullan@eircom.net To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error Dear Sir > Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = > Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied = > online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = > they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = > supplied. > Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. > Yours faithfully > Dan Mullan > From: > "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> > =20 > To: > danmullan@eircom.net > =20 > Subject: > Refund COL655138 > =20 > Date: > Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 > =20 > Content-Type:=20 > text/plain > =20 > Dear Mr Mullan > Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert > ificate of Mary Ann > Green. > The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an > entry containing the > above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 > the indexes for the June > quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 > Green. Therefore, we are > unable to issue a certificate. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

If you go to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ and choose the 'View Images Route and choose Births, 1853, June quarter, starting with G, then 1853B2-G-1410 you will see the original from which the transcription was made.The entry is about four lines up from the bottom. You will see that the number looks very very much like 415. If you look further up the page you will see that the original writer writes his zeroes on a slant, and quite narrow, so there is a possibility the number might have been 405. But I suggest that the vast majority of people looking at that image would see 415. If you search for Mary Ann GREEN, born Preston in June quarter 1853, you will get these two paragraphs. "Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You are advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index before ordering a certificate. " "If you are SURE that our transcription(s) below differs from the GRO index, you can submit a correction request by clicking on the Info button to the right of the entry in question." If after looking at the image you are sure that a correction is required, then by all means follow that procedure. If you have difficulty finding the image I can email you a copy off-list. It is about 600kb in size. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error > Dear Sir > >> Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >> Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied >> = >> online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >> they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >> supplied. >> Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >> Yours faithfully >> Dan Mullan > > >> From: >> "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >> =20 >> To: >> danmullan@eircom.net >> =20 >> Subject: >> Refund COL655138 >> =20 >> Date: >> Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >> =20 >> Content-Type:=20 >> text/plain >> =20 > > > > >> Dear Mr Mullan > >> Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >> ificate of Mary Ann >> Green. > >> The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > >> Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >> entry containing the >> above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >> the indexes for the June >> quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >> Green. Therefore, we are >> unable to issue a certificate. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* > Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Looking at the rest of the specified page image ... most of the 1's seem to bend slightly to the right, a few are straight. This character seems to bend to the left. Having said that, the other 0's clearly have a white gap in the middle, and this one doesn't. So my response to the GRO would be to try again with "405" rather than "415" and see if that brings results. The rest of the line is so clear and unambiguous that they can't just not find it. Mark -- At 9:33 pm +0100 15/4/05, Jeff Coleman wrote: >If you go to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ and choose the 'View Images >Route and choose Births, 1853, June quarter, starting with G, then >1853B2-G-1410 you will see the original from which the transcription >was made.The entry is about four lines up from the bottom. > >You will see that the number looks very very much like 415. If you >look further up the page you will see that the original writer >writes his zeroes on a slant, and quite narrow, so there is a >possibility the number might have been 405. But I suggest that the >vast majority of people looking at that image would see 415. > >If you search for Mary Ann GREEN, born Preston in June quarter 1853, >you will get these two paragraphs. > >"Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, >errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You >are advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index >before ordering a certificate. " >"If you are SURE that our transcription(s) below differs from the >GRO index, you can submit a correction request by clicking on the >Info button to the right of the entry in question." > >If after looking at the image you are sure that a correction is >required, then by all means follow that procedure. > >If you have difficulty finding the image I can email you a copy >off-list. It is about 600kb in size. > >Jeff > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> >To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM >Subject: Re: Data Error > >>Dear Sir >> >>>Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >>>Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied = >>>online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >>>they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >>>supplied. >>>Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >>>Yours faithfully >>>Dan Mullan >> >> >>>From: >>>"col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >>>=20 >>>To: >>>danmullan@eircom.net >>>=20 >>>Subject: >>>Refund COL655138 >>>=20 >>>Date: >>>Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >>>=20 >>>Content-Type:=20 >>>text/plain >>>=20 >> >> >> >> >>>Dear Mr Mullan >> >>>Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >>>ificate of Mary Ann >>>Green. >> >>>The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. >> >>>Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >>>entry containing the >>>above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >>>the indexes for the June >>>quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >>>Green. Therefore, we are >>>unable to issue a certificate.

After looking at all the comments that this message began - Dan quoted the district as 8e yet everyone seems to say on the image it is 6e. Could this be the problem, not the Page number? -- Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error > Dear Sir > >> Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >> Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied >> = >> online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >> they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >> supplied. >> Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >> Yours faithfully >> Dan Mullan > > >> From: >> "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >> =20 >> To: >> danmullan@eircom.net >> =20 >> Subject: >> Refund COL655138 >> =20 >> Date: >> Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >> =20 >> Content-Type:=20 >> text/plain >> =20 > > > > >> Dear Mr Mullan > >> Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >> ificate of Mary Ann >> Green. > >> The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > >> Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >> entry containing the >> above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >> the indexes for the June >> quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >> Green. Therefore, we are >> unable to issue a certificate. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.12 - Release Date: 15/04/2005

The Page Range for Preston,8e for, June 1853 Births should be between 387 and 494. No Reason that I can see why GRO should not be able to find it. Jeremy ----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error > Dear Sir > >> Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >> Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied >> = >> online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >> they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >> supplied. >> Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >> Yours faithfully >> Dan Mullan > > >> From: >> "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >> =20 >> To: >> danmullan@eircom.net >> =20 >> Subject: >> Refund COL655138 >> =20 >> Date: >> Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >> =20 >> Content-Type:=20 >> text/plain >> =20 > > > > >> Dear Mr Mullan > >> Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >> ificate of Mary Ann >> Green. > >> The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > >> Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >> entry containing the >> above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >> the indexes for the June >> quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >> Green. Therefore, we are >> unable to issue a certificate. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* > Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >