Hello On the bottom of column one page 1942B4W0317. There is what appears to be a handwritten entry it is so feint, and cannot be read. I would like confirmation about what to insert on the file. I was going to suggest the use of the asterisk but this does not seem right. Keith

Many thanks Jeff. It's really very simple when you know how! MAlcolm -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Coleman Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:41 PM To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Missing Page Range Data Simply by searching for Deaths in Wigan District in December quarter 1839, without putting in any surname or forename, you get all the entries. Judging by the number of UCF entries, the original images this quarter were transcribed from may well have been rather poor. This may well explain why there are also a number of entries which quite simply look wrong. By copying and sorting in a spreadsheet, it appears that there is a continuous run of entries from around 547 to 615, but a considerable scatter of entries (which may have been misread) outside this range. 478 entries are found within this range, with 138 entries either outside it or UCF. By comparing with the other quarters of 1839 Deaths in http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/district-page-map.pl?file=1839D1.csv%201839D2.csv%201839D3.csv%201839D4.csv it appears that Wigan is the last district in volume XXI (21) and follows on after Todmorden. the last page for Todmorden is 546 in Dec qr 1839 Deaths, which agrees with my crude analysis above. However a page range is simply a transcribing aid. Type What You See, even if it is outside the range. The ANC-05 images look much better than the UKD-01 images, so I am surprised to see that http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/bmd-range.pl shows the Richard Oliver syndicate as transcribing from UKD-01, not ANC-05. I do hope that you are using the ANC-05 images, and only using the rescans in the UKD-01 series as a second alternative source in case of doubt. Jeff Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Gill" <malcolm.gill@talktalk.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: Missing Page Range Data > Good morning all > > I can’t find page range data for Wigan for 1839 December Deaths. Is there > any other way to find this info other than via > Transcribers/Statistics/Districts/Page Ranges? > > Malcolm Gill > 62 Beverley Gardens > Wembley > HA9 9RA > > +44(0)2089047262 > +44(0)7788713579 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1522/3943 - Release Date: 10/07/11

Magic! Thanks Phil. Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Phil Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:33 PM To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Missing Page Range Data I have found page range data to be fairly hit-and-miss. The easiest way to do it yourself is to search the BMD data, selecting Wigan district only and then visually scan the resultant page numbers to find the min & max. A slightly more accurate way is to copy and paste the data into a WP program such as Word, sort by the page number and discard any obviously incorrect results. I've just done that and find a range of 547-615. Phil On 10/10/2011 12:35, Malcolm Gill wrote: > Good morning all > > I can’t find page range data for Wigan for 1839 December Deaths. Is there > any other way to find this info other than via > Transcribers/Statistics/Districts/Page Ranges? > > Malcolm Gill > 62 Beverley Gardens > Wembley > HA9 9RA > > +44(0)2089047262 > +44(0)7788713579 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1522/3943 - Release Date: 10/07/11

Simply by searching for Deaths in Wigan District in December quarter 1839, without putting in any surname or forename, you get all the entries. Judging by the number of UCF entries, the original images this quarter were transcribed from may well have been rather poor. This may well explain why there are also a number of entries which quite simply look wrong. By copying and sorting in a spreadsheet, it appears that there is a continuous run of entries from around 547 to 615, but a considerable scatter of entries (which may have been misread) outside this range. 478 entries are found within this range, with 138 entries either outside it or UCF. By comparing with the other quarters of 1839 Deaths in http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/district-page-map.pl?file=1839D1.csv%201839D2.csv%201839D3.csv%201839D4.csv it appears that Wigan is the last district in volume XXI (21) and follows on after Todmorden. the last page for Todmorden is 546 in Dec qr 1839 Deaths, which agrees with my crude analysis above. However a page range is simply a transcribing aid. Type What You See, even if it is outside the range. The ANC-05 images look much better than the UKD-01 images, so I am surprised to see that http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/bmd-range.pl shows the Richard Oliver syndicate as transcribing from UKD-01, not ANC-05. I do hope that you are using the ANC-05 images, and only using the rescans in the UKD-01 series as a second alternative source in case of doubt. Jeff Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Gill" <malcolm.gill@talktalk.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: Missing Page Range Data > Good morning all > > I can’t find page range data for Wigan for 1839 December Deaths. Is there > any other way to find this info other than via > Transcribers/Statistics/Districts/Page Ranges? > > Malcolm Gill > 62 Beverley Gardens > Wembley > HA9 9RA > > +44(0)2089047262 > +44(0)7788713579 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found page range data to be fairly hit-and-miss. The easiest way to do it yourself is to search the BMD data, selecting Wigan district only and then visually scan the resultant page numbers to find the min & max. A slightly more accurate way is to copy and paste the data into a WP program such as Word, sort by the page number and discard any obviously incorrect results. I've just done that and find a range of 547-615. Phil On 10/10/2011 12:35, Malcolm Gill wrote: > Good morning all > > I can’t find page range data for Wigan for 1839 December Deaths. Is there any other way to find this info other than via Transcribers/Statistics/Districts/Page Ranges? > > Malcolm Gill > 62 Beverley Gardens > Wembley > HA9 9RA > > +44(0)2089047262 > +44(0)7788713579 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning all I can’t find page range data for Wigan for 1839 December Deaths. Is there any other way to find this info other than via Transcribers/Statistics/Districts/Page Ranges? Malcolm Gill 62 Beverley Gardens Wembley HA9 9RA +44(0)2089047262 +44(0)7788713579

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The following Newsletter is sent out to FreeBMD Coordinators and transcribers on behalf of Nick Barratt, Executive Director. Regards Allan Raymond FreeBMD Coordinator of Syndicates FreeUKGEN Newsletter for FreeBMD, FreeCEN and FreeREG Issue 2 September 2011 Welcome to the second FreeUKGEN newsletter, updating you on the latest information about the three constituent projects, FreeBMD, FreeCEN and FreeREG. It is intended as a short summary news bulletin for internal circulation amongst Executive Members, Co-ordinators and transcribers; but if you would like any background information on the items included, please drop me an email at nick.barratt@virgin.net Dr Nick Barratt Executive Director 1. Tri-project seminar The tri-project seminar was held on Thursday 21 April 2011 at The National Archives. The event was very well attended, and a wide range of issues were discussed relating to communication, management, finances and technology. We also heard presentations on the work of The National Archives; the future of genealogy; and the role of the Open Genealogical Alliance. An action plan has been drawn up and circulated, identifying the key issues arising from the seminar, and has begun to be implemented (see below for key issues). Following feedback from the seminar, it was decided to hold the seminar on an annual basis, rotating the location so that it was not always held in London. 2. Executive meetings Regular executive meetings for each of the three projects, where the Executive Director and (where possible) some of the Trustees, would instead be held on average every six months. Dates for the next meetings with FreeREG and FreeCEN are yet to be set. Eric Dickens has decided to step down as the Chair of the FreeREG Executive, and Sandra Jones has kindly agreed to take this role on. Eric has worked tirelessly to develop and promote FreeREG during difficult times, and the Trustees would like to thank him for his work. He continues to assist Sandra as she adapts to her new role. 3. Access to data and copyright Following the seminar, this issue was identified as one of the key priorities moving forward. Since then, discussions have continued with the commercial players and the LDS, but the main concerns surround access to parish registers. As well as increased numbers of family history societies placing their transcribed content online with a commercial partner, county record offices are now putting their own pay per view content online directly (eg Essex). This development will increase the difficulty in gaining access to transcription material for FreeREG, and may necessitate a change in strategy. Accordingly, the Executive Director is framing a series of letters to CROs, FHSs, Diocesan authorities and Lambeth palace with advice from the Open Genealogy Alliance. 4. Software and website development Following the seminar, the Trustees have decided to fund a complete re-build of FreeCEN to create new transcription software, an updated search engine and associated website that is open source, with access to open data. A transcriber licence will be framed that is part of the new system. Styled FreeCEN 2.0, the project will be developed by a project team and delivered by a preferred technology partner, Citizen's Science Alliance. The aim is to not only migrate all data to the new site to make FreeCEN 2.0 a comparable resource to FreeBMD, but to then use the new transcription software and associated back-end resource to create FreeREG 2.0, provided the issues over data access can be resolved. In short, it would be a completely online transcription experience. More excitingly, the creation of an open source transcription tool will provide a resource that can be offered to CROs in return for data access, or other grant-funded transcription projects. This will place our project at the heart of the sector, and enable grant funds to be secured to underwrite the costs of our work. Furthermore, The National Archives have expressed an interest in sharing best practice and supporting our work, using their 'Living the Poor Life' project as an example of how to run a support network for transcriber groups online, something that was identified as an issue at the seminar. Delivering FreeCEN 2.0 and exploring the collaborative potential for the resource across the sector, including fundraising opportunities, will be a major piece of work for the Trustees and Executive Director over the next 12-18 months. This includes creating proper job specifications for key individuals throughout our organisation to support the technology that we are creating, so that the pressure and bottlenecks identified both during and after the seminar are removed, and a more regulated delivery can be implemented. 5. Marketing and Promotion Once we have signed off on the technology build, we will promote our aims - and any subsequent partner organisations - online and in print media. In the meantime, promotion of FreeREG and FreeCEN are necessarily limited due to the intention to rebuild the sites so that they are more user-friendly. Some useful suggestions were made at the seminar about regional promotion at family history shows, which are being explored from cost and practical angles. Internal communication within the projects was also identified as a concern at the seminar. FreeBMD now sends a monthly newsletter, whilst FreeREG and FreeCEN continue to update their members via email and online. 6. Open Genealogical Alliance The three projects continue to support the work of the Open Genealogical Alliance, which is encouraging and leading debate on the future of the sector. The OGA are assisting our work in the ways outlined above, as well as shaping the legal framework for the transcriber licence for FreeCEN 2.0. General If you have any general news items you wish to circulate more widely, please submit them to me, stating which project you work on and any position held; and I'll look to include them on forthcoming newsletters. They will be circulated every 6 months, although information will continue to be passed to each Executive or management committee as necessary. Nick Barratt

hey freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com wow this is crazy http://www.thelocalten.com

I e-mailed my syndicate coordinator Debz on 14 Sep. and have since followed up, but to date have had no reply.Can anyone tell me if something is amiss? Evan S

I haven't had a problem. Received new pages yesterday. Suggest you send another message. Janet

No. It doesn't happen with all scans from the same batch. Each looks the same as the rest. That's what so puzzling. Malcolm Gill -----Original Message----- From: Len Nicholls Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:14 PM To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WinBMD.exe One possibility: I found that when straightening and cropping scans, if I didn't leave enough white space at the bottom I had this same problem. Is there less white space at the bottom of these scans than you are used to? Len Nicholls On 21/09/2011 12:32 p.m., Malcolm Gill wrote: > Good morning > > My syndicate is currently second-keying 1839 Q3 Deaths. Life is markedly > better since we now have access to the much clearer Ancestry scans. > > However there is a downside. Since starting to transcribe from them with > WinBMD the ‘Ruler’ sometimes ceases to move down any further when reaching > the last 8-10 lines. Any thoughts? > > Malcolm Gill > 62 Beverley Gardens > Wembley > HA9 9RA > > +44(0)2089047262 > +44(0)7788713579 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3909 - Release Date: 09/20/11

One possibility: I found that when straightening and cropping scans, if I didn't leave enough white space at the bottom I had this same problem. Is there less white space at the bottom of these scans than you are used to? Len Nicholls On 21/09/2011 12:32 p.m., Malcolm Gill wrote: > Good morning > > My syndicate is currently second-keying 1839 Q3 Deaths. Life is markedly better since we now have access to the much clearer Ancestry scans. > > However there is a downside. Since starting to transcribe from them with WinBMD the ‘Ruler’ sometimes ceases to move down any further when reaching the last 8-10 lines. Any thoughts? > > Malcolm Gill > 62 Beverley Gardens > Wembley > HA9 9RA > > +44(0)2089047262 > +44(0)7788713579 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I downloaded Version 6 of Win BMD to another of my computers and on attempting to open the program I received the message "Unable to open Icon file" The notebook is running Windows 7 Starter, 64 bit. I would appreciate your advice to resolve the problem. Thanks & best regards Bob Douglass

Good morning My syndicate is currently second-keying 1839 Q3 Deaths. Life is markedly better since we now have access to the much clearer Ancestry scans. However there is a downside. Since starting to transcribe from them with WinBMD the ‘Ruler’ sometimes ceases to move down any further when reaching the last 8-10 lines. Any thoughts? Malcolm Gill 62 Beverley Gardens Wembley HA9 9RA +44(0)2089047262 +44(0)7788713579

G'day Tony I have run into the same problem; but I have devised my own workaround until some kind soul develops a new version of MacBMD (might even have a crack at myself). What I have done is created a second partition on my hard drive and installed Mac OS X Leopard onto this second partition. The existing version of MacMBD can now be installed into this version of Mac OS X. It is easy to switch between the two bootable partitions on startup by just holding down the 'alt' key when starting up the MAC and selecting the partition you wish the Mac to start. If you need any help let me know. I shall devise a set of instructions if there are are other subscribers that wish to use this workaround. Regards Ralph E Snape On 3 Sep 2011, at 22:51, Anthony Bowditch wrote: > Have used Windows XP up to now. > Have just acquired an AppleMac, OS X Lion 10.7.1. I've tried downloading the MacBMD application, but the computer won't take it on board, as if it's out of date. > Can anyone help? > > Tony Bowditch > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all those who replied to my query and for the helpful suggestions and comments. I have now completed the page satisfactorily. Peter Pannell

Possibly early adoption does this too ... I do know that in the NHS on adoption, the patient's medical records have to be sent away for replacing with the new name (so no one can see the old name there). I'd surmise that a similar thing happens in the Registrar General's domain. Bernard -----Original Message----- From: David Mayall [mailto:david.mayall@googlemail.com] Sent: 12 September 2011 13:42 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Page 1954B4-A-0002 Yes, they are supplementary entries. However, not all late amendments result in entries like this. 1947-B2-W-409 shows an example of a post-registration change that didn't produce a "/S" entry. (the third name on the page and the "1" inserted entry both refer to my mother). I believe, but I can't be certain, that corrections to an entry, and column 10 name changes by baptism don't result in a new entry. Changes that require a new registration to replace the old entry (such as adding, removing or changing a father) do result in a "/S" -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian M Clark Sent: 12 September 2011 12:30 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 Richard As far as I'm aware they relate to supplementary entries ie Official changes to the original entry. You can also get occasions where the change is made in later years so you get something like "See D/74 0345/S" Brian On 12 Sep 2011 at 11:58, Richard Oliver wrote: > Hi: > > An interesting bunch of answers, I'm sure all correct. I also have > come across references like this, and - not content with just > transcribing them right - I have wondered WHY they appear, and WHAT > they represent. I'm very used to Late Registrations with references > like "see D/54", but these are quite different. Any suggestions? > > Richard Oliver > Abingdon, Oxfordshire > richol@arrakis.es > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Peter Pannell) > > 2. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Anne Sutherland) > > 3. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Sian Fairclough) > > 4. RE: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Alan Edgar) > > 5. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Jeff Coleman) > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, they are supplementary entries. However, not all late amendments result in entries like this. 1947-B2-W-409 shows an example of a post-registration change that didn't produce a "/S" entry. (the third name on the page and the "1" inserted entry both refer to my mother). I believe, but I can't be certain, that corrections to an entry, and column 10 name changes by baptism don't result in a new entry. Changes that require a new registration to replace the old entry (such as adding, removing or changing a father) do result in a "/S" -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian M Clark Sent: 12 September 2011 12:30 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 Richard As far as I'm aware they relate to supplementary entries ie Official changes to the original entry. You can also get occasions where the change is made in later years so you get something like "See D/74 0345/S" Brian On 12 Sep 2011 at 11:58, Richard Oliver wrote: > Hi: > > An interesting bunch of answers, I'm sure all correct. I also have > come across references like this, and - not content with just > transcribing them right - I have wondered WHY they appear, and WHAT > they represent. I'm very used to Late Registrations with references > like "see D/54", but these are quite different. Any suggestions? > > Richard Oliver > Abingdon, Oxfordshire > richol@arrakis.es > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Peter Pannell) > > 2. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Anne Sutherland) > > 3. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Sian Fairclough) > > 4. RE: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Alan Edgar) > > 5. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Jeff Coleman) > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard As far as I'm aware they relate to supplementary entries ie Official changes to the original entry. You can also get occasions where the change is made in later years so you get something like "See D/74 0345/S" Brian On 12 Sep 2011 at 11:58, Richard Oliver wrote: > Hi: > > An interesting bunch of answers, I'm sure all correct. I also have > come across references like this, and - not content with just > transcribing them right - I have wondered WHY they appear, and WHAT > they represent. I'm very used to Late Registrations with references > like "see D/54", but these are quite different. Any suggestions? > > Richard Oliver > Abingdon, Oxfordshire > richol@arrakis.es > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Peter Pannell) > > 2. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Anne Sutherland) > > 3. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Sian Fairclough) > > 4. RE: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Alan Edgar) > > 5. Re: Page 1954B4-A-0002 (Jeff Coleman) > > > >