Looks fine as "8e" here ... on the image ... Mark -- At 10:14 pm +0100 15/4/05, Anne Cruise wrote: >After looking at all the comments that this message began - Dan >quoted the district as 8e yet everyone seems to say on the image it >is 6e. Could this be the problem, not the Page number? > >-- >Anne > >----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> >To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM >Subject: Re: Data Error

> If you search for Mary Ann GREEN, born Preston in June quarter 1853, > you will get these two paragraphs. > > "Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, > errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You are > advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index before > ordering a certificate. " > "If you are SURE that our transcription(s) below differs from the GRO > index, you can submit a correction request by clicking on the Info > button to the right of the entry in question." > > If after looking at the image you are sure that a correction is > required, then by all means follow that procedure. For what it's worth, I'd like to correct one of the entries for my family due to an indistinct entry on a film but, having attempted to follow the above route, the only Info button I can see (beside the "England and Wales, Civil Registration...' link on the search.Ancestry.com page that one is redirected to) just goes to a description of the index. I don't know whether that's because I'm already registered with Ancestry.com? I can find no trace of any route to report incorrect entries. Regards John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk)

After looking at all the comments that this message began - Dan quoted the district as 8e yet everyone seems to say on the image it is 6e. Could this be the problem, not the Page number? -- Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error > Dear Sir > >> Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >> Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied >> = >> online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >> they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >> supplied. >> Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >> Yours faithfully >> Dan Mullan > > >> From: >> "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >> =20 >> To: >> danmullan@eircom.net >> =20 >> Subject: >> Refund COL655138 >> =20 >> Date: >> Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >> =20 >> Content-Type:=20 >> text/plain >> =20 > > > > >> Dear Mr Mullan > >> Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >> ificate of Mary Ann >> Green. > >> The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > >> Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >> entry containing the >> above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >> the indexes for the June >> quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >> Green. Therefore, we are >> unable to issue a certificate. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.12 - Release Date: 15/04/2005

Looking at the rest of the specified page image ... most of the 1's seem to bend slightly to the right, a few are straight. This character seems to bend to the left. Having said that, the other 0's clearly have a white gap in the middle, and this one doesn't. So my response to the GRO would be to try again with "405" rather than "415" and see if that brings results. The rest of the line is so clear and unambiguous that they can't just not find it. Mark -- At 9:33 pm +0100 15/4/05, Jeff Coleman wrote: >If you go to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ and choose the 'View Images >Route and choose Births, 1853, June quarter, starting with G, then >1853B2-G-1410 you will see the original from which the transcription >was made.The entry is about four lines up from the bottom. > >You will see that the number looks very very much like 415. If you >look further up the page you will see that the original writer >writes his zeroes on a slant, and quite narrow, so there is a >possibility the number might have been 405. But I suggest that the >vast majority of people looking at that image would see 415. > >If you search for Mary Ann GREEN, born Preston in June quarter 1853, >you will get these two paragraphs. > >"Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, >errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You >are advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index >before ordering a certificate. " >"If you are SURE that our transcription(s) below differs from the >GRO index, you can submit a correction request by clicking on the >Info button to the right of the entry in question." > >If after looking at the image you are sure that a correction is >required, then by all means follow that procedure. > >If you have difficulty finding the image I can email you a copy >off-list. It is about 600kb in size. > >Jeff > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> >To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM >Subject: Re: Data Error > >>Dear Sir >> >>>Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >>>Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied = >>>online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >>>they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >>>supplied. >>>Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >>>Yours faithfully >>>Dan Mullan >> >> >>>From: >>>"col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >>>=20 >>>To: >>>danmullan@eircom.net >>>=20 >>>Subject: >>>Refund COL655138 >>>=20 >>>Date: >>>Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >>>=20 >>>Content-Type:=20 >>>text/plain >>>=20 >> >> >> >> >>>Dear Mr Mullan >> >>>Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >>>ificate of Mary Ann >>>Green. >> >>>The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. >> >>>Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >>>entry containing the >>>above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >>>the indexes for the June >>>quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >>>Green. Therefore, we are >>>unable to issue a certificate.

If you go to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ and choose the 'View Images Route and choose Births, 1853, June quarter, starting with G, then 1853B2-G-1410 you will see the original from which the transcription was made.The entry is about four lines up from the bottom. You will see that the number looks very very much like 415. If you look further up the page you will see that the original writer writes his zeroes on a slant, and quite narrow, so there is a possibility the number might have been 405. But I suggest that the vast majority of people looking at that image would see 415. If you search for Mary Ann GREEN, born Preston in June quarter 1853, you will get these two paragraphs. "Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You are advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index before ordering a certificate. " "If you are SURE that our transcription(s) below differs from the GRO index, you can submit a correction request by clicking on the Info button to the right of the entry in question." If after looking at the image you are sure that a correction is required, then by all means follow that procedure. If you have difficulty finding the image I can email you a copy off-list. It is about 600kb in size. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <danmullan@eircom.net> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error > Dear Sir > >> Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = >> Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied >> = >> online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = >> they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = >> supplied. >> Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. >> Yours faithfully >> Dan Mullan > > >> From: >> "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> >> =20 >> To: >> danmullan@eircom.net >> =20 >> Subject: >> Refund COL655138 >> =20 >> Date: >> Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 >> =20 >> Content-Type:=20 >> text/plain >> =20 > > > > >> Dear Mr Mullan > >> Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert >> ificate of Mary Ann >> Green. > >> The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > >> Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an >> entry containing the >> above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 >> the indexes for the June >> quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 >> Green. Therefore, we are >> unable to issue a certificate. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* > Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dan it would seem, looking at the available scan we have, which you can access yourself, that our data is correct - see 1853 births June page 1410 in the search images part of the site - Green Mary Ann Preston 6e 415 appears 4th from the bottom of the page Bronny ----- Original Message ----- From: danmullan@eircom.net To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Data Error Dear Sir > Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = > Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied = > online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = > they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = > supplied. > Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. > Yours faithfully > Dan Mullan > From: > "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> > =20 > To: > danmullan@eircom.net > =20 > Subject: > Refund COL655138 > =20 > Date: > Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 > =20 > Content-Type:=20 > text/plain > =20 > Dear Mr Mullan > Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert > ificate of Mary Ann > Green. > The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an > entry containing the > above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 > the indexes for the June > quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 > Green. Therefore, we are > unable to issue a certificate. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== List archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

To find the route for correction of errors, click the info button to the right of your search result. You will then find, in addition to the transcriber information, the line; If you have a correction to this entry click here; If you click "here" you will find details of the circumstances in which a correction to a transcription can be made, and the form on which to do it. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "John K.Eason" <freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Data Error > > > If you search for Mary Ann GREEN, born Preston in June quarter 1853, > > you will get these two paragraphs. > > > > "Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, > > errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You are > > advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index before > > ordering a certificate. " > > "If you are SURE that our transcription(s) below differs from the GRO > > index, you can submit a correction request by clicking on the Info > > button to the right of the entry in question." > > > > If after looking at the image you are sure that a correction is > > required, then by all means follow that procedure. > > For what it's worth, I'd like to correct one of the entries for my family > due to an indistinct entry on a film but, having attempted to follow the > above route, the only Info button I can see (beside the "England and > Wales, Civil Registration...' link on the search.Ancestry.com page that > one is redirected to) just goes to a description of the index. I don't > know whether that's because I'm already registered with Ancestry.com? > I can find no trace of any route to report incorrect entries. > > Regards > John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk) > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Subscribe/Unsubscribe instructions and Archives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/FreeUK/FreeBMD-Admins.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

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Dear Sir > Your entry for the birth of Mary Ann Green with the reference June 1853 = > Preston 8e 415 (transcriber Lorraine) appears to be incorrect. I applied = > online to the General Register Office for the birth certificate, but = > they say they could not find the certificate using the reference I = > supplied. > Please see below for a copy of their email to me regarding it. > Yours faithfully > Dan Mullan > From: > "col admin" <col.admin@ons.gsi.gov.uk> > =20 > To: > danmullan@eircom.net > =20 > Subject: > Refund COL655138 > =20 > Date: > Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:46:13 +0100 > =20 > Content-Type:=20 > text/plain > =20 > Dear Mr Mullan > Thank you for your recent application for the birth cert > ificate of Mary Ann > Green. > The reference supplied was June 1853 Preston 8e 415. > Unfortunately, this reference does not relate to an > entry containing the > above name(s). Our researchers have checked=20 > the indexes for the June > quarter of 1853 but found no trace of Mary Ann=20 > Green. Therefore, we are > unable to issue a certificate. _________________________________________________________________ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer

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<Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:06:13 -0400 From: "Frances LaChance" _frances.lachance@sympatico.ca_ (mailto:frances.lachance@sympatico.ca) Subject: Can't read surname Hi; I'm with Scan2 [3598] and have d/l 1869d4-344. The page is very black, especially at the top and I can't read the surname. The entire page is the same surname for male, female, and unknown, in 3 short columns. My other 2 pages are unconnected so can't get a clue from them, nor can I look for the preceding page 343 without an initial. Can someone help me figure out the surname, please? Fran Sarnia, ON, Canada> Hi Fran I have put my image into Paintshop Pro 7 and the 'surname' looks like 'Uknown' - the previous page 1869d4-343 is also listed on the 3rd column as 'Unknown'. At the bottom of page 344 there are 4 Unknown Unknowns. I don't envy you the deciphering of the Districts, though. Best wishes Malise McGuire with Yorkscan

To volunteer transcribers A further reminder. We would like to give advance warning regarding a slight modification to the process to access scans on FreeBMD. It is now possible for transcribers to access the scans at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/scan-source2.shtml (or http://images.freebmd.org.uk/GUS/ ) by using the same SubmitterID and Password as that used to Upload files to FreeBMD. The previous scheme of using a different ID and password for access to scans has been superseded and will be withdrawn by the end of April 2005. For the time being access will also be permitted using the existing common userid and password. However it is highly recommended that transcribers start using their SubmitterID and Password to access the scans to ensure an orderly changeover of ID and Password. Regards Allan Raymond

My answer was sent to the list and is showing here, so you should have seen it. Anyhow, looking at the previous image, all the entries for 'Unknown' come after the end of the A-Z surnames, so you just use 'Unknown' as the surname and 'Male' or 'Female' as the Christian name entry. > so what was the answer? - in case others of us come across the same > problem!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John K.Eason > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: Can't read surname > > > Thanks John; > > > > Fran > > Sarnia, ON, Canada > > No problem. > Regards John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk)

so what was the answer? - in case others of us come across the same problem!! ----- Original Message ----- From: John K.Eason To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Can't read surname > Thanks John; > > Fran > Sarnia, ON, Canada No problem. Regards John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk) ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Want to help FreeBMD? Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

> Thanks John; > > Fran > Sarnia, ON, Canada No problem. Regards John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk)

> Hi; > > I'm with Scan2 [3598] and have d/l 1869d4-344. The page is very black, > especially at the top and I can't read the surname. The entire page is > the same surname for male, female, and unknown, in 3 short columns. My > other 2 pages are unconnected so can't get a clue from them, nor can I > look for the preceding page 343 without an initial. Can someone help > me figure out the surname, please? > > > Fran > Sarnia, ON, Canada > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fjl1935/ The 'Unknown' on the page *is* the surname! (I.e: The surname's not known and there is no Christian name, so the entries are just listed as 'Male' or 'Female'.) If you download and look at the previous page (1869d4-343), you'll see what I mean. Regards John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk)

The formats which can be used are shown in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Format.shtml , unless I'm mistaken +BLANK isn't one of the recognised formats hence why the system didn't understand +BLANK. You be well advised to use *,*,*,* etc to represent the missing information in the two lines. Allan Raymond Dralphne@aol.com wrote: We have a batch of 600+ entries, and are trying to upload it to you. We had to enter +BLANK at lines 4 and 86 because we were unable to read these lines. On trying to send, we get the message Upload Failed - didn't understand +BLANK in lines 8 and 90. Please advise. Ralph Hill. Allan Raymond Monarchies of Europe Web Site at http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Monarchies_of_Europe.htm)

We have a batch of 600+ entries, and are trying to upload it to you. We had to enter +BLANK at lines 4 and 86 because we were unable to read these lines. On trying to send, we get the message Upload Failed - didn't understand +BLANK in lines 8 and 90. Please advise. Ralph Hill.

I have just realised that I have not been including in the file name of the files I have uploaded (1906 Deaths) the letter indicating the name range included in the data (e.g. '1906D40006.BMD' instead of '1906D4A0006.BMD'). Is this likely to cause any problems?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:32:16 +0100, you wrote: >I am working for the scan 2 syndicate and have the following entry on >scan number 1870d1_025. >The entry is BELLAMY Emma 4M Nottingham 7b 222 > >How can I enter the M which is presumably for months? Just enter it as you see it. The system is perfectly OK with an "m" suffix. -- Dave Mayall