Is there a problem with the File Management page? http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/bmd-files.pl fails to load. Chris

You have confirmed what I had previously suspected - that when handwritten pages were "typed" the typists made many mistakes. Last time I was at the FRC I enquired if the hand written pages that have been typed still exist - and if they might be accessible. The answer is that they are probably in the store at Christchurch Hants. I was given the email of the person in charge there - but other things intervened and I haven't done anything further about it. Christopher Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mills" <johnmills@btinternet.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: HAND WRITTEN SCANS WHICH ARE TYPED IN FRC. >I am currently transcribing hand written scans 1846m1-H-0172 through to >1846m1-H-192. > > As usual with hand written scans I print them out and take them to the FRC > and check against > the "originals". With the above scans however I find that they have been > retyped and compressed into > fewer pages. > > The problem I have is that it is obvious that the typist has "corrected" > some of the entries and > also made errors in the transcriptions. > > For Instance > > Page 175 > Hodge Mary Ann Tiverton x 473 > has been transcribed as Hodge Nary Ann > > Page 186 > > Holloway William Kidderminster xviii 390 > is entered twice on hand written scans but only once on typed scan. > > Furthermore several of the page numbers are different where the scan is > quite clear. > > I intend to do the following and would like confirmation that what I am > doing is right. > > 1. Where I am absolutely satisfied that the hand written scan is correct > use that information. > > 2. Where the hand written scan is unclear but I am absolutely satisfied > that the typed version is > a correct interpretation use that. > > 3. Where I am in any way unsure use the normal underscore, brackets, > asterisk etc. > > Would someone up on high please confirm that I am doing the right thing > before I upload > these files > > > John Mills > > jmills > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

I have been a transcriber for years and it is not until today that I find I cannot download scans in tif format. Can anyone advise me how to do this. Brenda

I was working on a double page scan, 1886 b1_474, and decided to try out BMD Verify, before I had finished the whole thing. After a lot of confusion I finally got it working (I think in the correct way) and checked a whole column. I then went back to open it up to transcribe the rest, and now I am getting the following message. Invalid Project file. It has lines missing. Then the next message says Please correct the details in the following header screen. when I try to correct it it, it warns me that there is already a file with that name. can anyone advise me please? The file 1886 b1_474 is in my output folder and appears to be alright. Thank you Lilian Fraser 517 ----- Original Message ----- From: <FreeBMD-Admins-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: FreeBMD-Admins-D Digest V05 #171 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005

This is covered in the "Hints and Help For Beginners" http://www.freebmd.org.uk/beginhelp.shtml Mark -- RAY@harrowing.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > Can anyone advise on how to preserve a diphthong present in the scan when transcribing? "Phoebe" has the elided "o" and "e", and I would hate to be the one to take it away from her - unless, of course, it was the indexer himself trying to be clever! > > Thanks. > > Ray

Can anyone advise on how to preserve a diphthong present in the scan when transcribing? "Phoebe" has the elided "o" and "e", and I would hate to be the one to take it away from her - unless, of course, it was the indexer himself trying to be clever! Thanks. Ray

<<Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:02:19 +0100 From: "Bob Phillips" <robert.ph@ntlworld.com> To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Downloading Scans Hi Chris A google search suggested an AOL compression thingy. Here's a web site that tells you how to get around these ARTY types. http://www.clipart.com/en/support/showdoc?ID=1109 good luck Bob Phillips>> Hi Chris Can I add a further bit to my email about the above..... The 'duff' files were not consecutive ones, I never knew which ones were going to be and the okay ones downloaded without any difficulty at all. We don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with AOL's Image compression function, as described on the Google page, because we did not and have not disabled ours and the downloads are being downloaded okay. In fact since February this year and the batch of intermittent 'duff' files from the 1856 set I have had no further difficulty in downloads. We think that some of the scanned images, especially in the 1856 set, were not scanned in the same way as the rest. Best wishes Malise

Hi I have someone within my syndicate who has problems downloading scans that have been allocated to them. Most of the time they download a scan, it somehow ends up as either an ART or BMP file. And the few that have stayed in the right format can't be opened anyway. I have already suggested Infranview to them as they have no other graphic related programmes on their computer, but this made no difference. They are using Windows ME. Any suggestions as to the cause of the problem, and how to resolve it. Thanks

<Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:05:50 +1200 From: "Chris Mahoney" <cmahoney@orcon.net.nz> To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Hi I have someone within my syndicate who has problems downloading scans that have been allocated to them. Most of the time they download a scan, it somehow ends up as either an ART or BMP file. And the few that have stayed in the right format can't be opened anyway. I have already suggested Infranview to them as they have no other graphic related programmes on their computer, but this made no difference. They are using Windows ME. Any suggestions as to the cause of the problem, and how to resolve it.> Hi Chris I had exactly this problem earlier this year, in February! In all some 20 scans were 'duff' - ie, couldn't open. In the end, my husband fixed up a check system, because I didn't know they were 'duff' until I tried to use them. This allowed me to see their size as they were downloaded - no size, no image. To get round the lack of image I opened the scan so that it showed on the screen. I clicked on Edit, then Select All, then clicked on Copy. Then click on File and Save As, and put it into Output. At this point the menu will show as File Name [eg 1856M4-0721.jpg] and Save as Type will be showing ART(*.art) Click on Save as Type and find the next row below ART (*.art) in the box which says .bmp; click on this. Then go back to file name and CHANGE the extension by typing from .jpg to .bmp The file will now open. Double check in Output that it does do this. Its longwinded and time consuming but you do get there in the end! I am using Windows XP and have PaintShopPro. which can read a wider range of files than Irfanview, which I also have and it plaintively says it cannot read ART files! We don't know the cause of this problem but we think it was something to do with the way some of the 1856 files were scanned in. On the other hand my syndicate coordinator could read them okay. Hope this helps. Best wishes Malise Yorkscan

Sorry to use the list for this: Judith emails to kowaldjr@adam.com.au are being bounced Could you please contact me Best Wishes John Mellors http://www.btinternet.com/~jemello/johnm2/

Hi Chris A google search suggested an AOL compression thingy. Here's a web site that tells you how to get around these ARTY types. http://www.clipart.com/en/support/showdoc?ID=1109 good luck Bob Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mahoney" <cmahoney@orcon.net.nz> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: Downloading Scans > Hi > > I have someone within my syndicate who has problems downloading scans that have been allocated to them. > > Most of the time they download a scan, it somehow ends up as either an ART or BMP file. And the few that have stayed in the right format can't be opened anyway. > > I have already suggested Infranview to them as they have no other graphic related programmes on their computer, but this made no difference. > > They are using Windows ME. > > Any suggestions as to the cause of the problem, and how to resolve it. > > Thanks > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Subscribe/Unsubscribe instructions and Archives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/FreeUK/FreeBMD-Admins.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I am currently transcribing hand written scans 1846m1-H-0172 through to 1846m1-H-192. As usual with hand written scans I print them out and take them to the FRC and check against the "originals". With the above scans however I find that they have been retyped and compressed into fewer pages. The problem I have is that it is obvious that the typist has "corrected" some of the entries and also made errors in the transcriptions. For Instance Page 175 Hodge Mary Ann Tiverton x 473 has been transcribed as Hodge Nary Ann Page 186 Holloway William Kidderminster xviii 390 is entered twice on hand written scans but only once on typed scan. Furthermore several of the page numbers are different where the scan is quite clear. I intend to do the following and would like confirmation that what I am doing is right. 1. Where I am absolutely satisfied that the hand written scan is correct use that information. 2. Where the hand written scan is unclear but I am absolutely satisfied that the typed version is a correct interpretation use that. 3. Where I am in any way unsure use the normal underscore, brackets, asterisk etc. Would someone up on high please confirm that I am doing the right thing before I upload these files John Mills jmills

Hello folks, I've tried to access the section of the website that Jeremy mentioned recently: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/DistrictInfo.html but without success. It just won't download. Has anyone else had problems or is it just me? Thanks, Kim

Kim: It works for me. Check your Security Setting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Waghorn" <rigeleclipse@tiscali.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: downloading problem > Hello folks, > > I've tried to access the section of the website that Jeremy mentioned recently: > > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/DistrictInfo.html > > but without success. It just won't download. Has anyone else had problems or is it just me? > > Thanks, > > Kim > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Subscribe/Unsubscribe instructions and Archives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/FreeUK/FreeBMD-Admins.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks Kevin and Wanda - I absolutely agree with all of that and should have mentioned BMDVerify in my response to Mildred. I, too, always use it before uploading a file, and usually find at least one or two errors no matter how careful I've been. I, too, think it's a great tool !!! Mike In message <BAY108-DAV118AF6D2DE084743680EFBCA980@phx.gbl>, Wanda <woodwand@msn.com> writes >I can't imagine anyone uploading files without double checking them. >No matter how careful I think I've been, I've always found at least one >error. BMDVerify is a great tool! This is a very important project & >I would hate to think I sent someone on a wild goose chase because of >an error I didn't catch & correct. > >Cheers, >Wanda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: FreeBMD Corrections Coodinator<mailto:FreeBMD.Corrections.Coord >inator@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:15 PM > Subject: RE: WinBMD problem > > > People, > May I just add a word of warning about transcribing by Column rather than > row. > > If you do transcribe by row, can I please ask that you take particular care, > and ensure that you always verify your page afterwards. > > As the corrections coordinator, I have come across a considerable number of > pages where the fields of a particular row has the surname from one entry, > the forenames from the row above, district/volume from the row below etc. > > If anyone does transcribe by Column, then please take particular care, and > please ensure that you carefully verify your pages, as a simple mistake can > cause MANY incorrect entries. > > I would always recommend that BMDVerify (Whichever way you transcribe) is > used before uploading pages. It is very simple to use and with careful use > can eliminate the vast majority of errors. > > Whichever way you transcribe, Keep up the good work. > > Kevin Howell > FreeBMD Corrections coordinator. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Thomas [mailto:Mike@mbreliance.f2s.com] > > Sent: 08 September 2005 18:40 > > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: WinBMD problem > > > > > > Hi Mildred, > > > > Lot's of others have already advised you how to get out of this by > > pressing F2, but can I suggest that you try transcribing in this mode ? > > I work like this all the time and think it's quicker ! > > > > What I do is work all the way done the page filling in the Surname > > column, then I save the file (press F3 and ignore the warning about > > incomplete lines), then work all the way done the Forenames column, and > > so on. I think it's easier and quicker to keep my head in Forename, > > District or Page mode etc. for a whole page, rather than constantly > > switching between them. > > > > Give it a try ! > > > > Mike > > > > In message <431F53E2.1020301@blueyonder.co.uk<mailto:431F53E2.10203 > >01@blueyonder.co.uk>>, mfknasmith39 > > <mfkn39@blueyonder.co.uk<mailto:mfkn39@blueyonder.co.uk>> writes > > >Suddenly I have a mechanical problem with WinBMD and wonder if anyone > > >can show me how to correct it. > > > > > >Starting a new page, I type in the first column but when I press the > > >Tab key to go to the next column I am taken to the line below of the > > >same column instead. So I have to use the "move Right" arrow instead. > > >When I reach the end of the line and can't do this, I try the Line > > >Space key but am again taken to the line below of the same column. > > > > > >I have tried to do this on two pages but the same thing happens. > > > > > >As it will take a long time to transcribe at this rate, I would be > > >grateful for advice. > > > > > >Mildred Nasmith > > > > > > > > > > > >==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > > >Want to help FreeBMD? > > >Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html<http://freebmd.roots > > >web.com/Signup.html> to find out how. > > > > > >============================== > > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Hi, This was a bug which was not uncovered during testing. It is now fixed. Kevin. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dekka [mailto:malfrost@lineone.net] > Sent: 09 September 2005 03:47 > To: FreeBMD-Admins-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: {not a subscriber} Trying to submit correction > > > I have been trying for about 20 minutes to submit a correction > form for an entry in the deaths. Every time I submit the form I > receive an error message stating that dates of birth are not > acceptable before 1969. I AM NOT trying to include a D.o B. I am > trying to submit the correct age for a death in 1873.(just 2 > figures a 6 & a 1) but your form is obviously interpreting this > as a D. o. B. Can you please advise by return. > Thank You; > Regards; > Derek Frost > > >

Hi Margaret You ask where the 19 has gone. The chances are you have inadvertently ticked the SpeedBMD Filenames in the Options menu. Click it again to de-select it. To rename your files select RENAME in your File Management. good luck Bob Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Denman" <margaret@skeffling1970.fsnet.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: Advice please! > I am a new transcriber and have uploaded transcribed pages, 1911 June Marriages scans - pages 183, 184, 328, no problem. > > I have had a look at my file management page and my three files are there, they are named as > > 11M2184 > 11M2328 > 1911M20183 > > I have realised I have omitted to put an 0 before the last tree digits, but where has the 19 in 1911 disappeared to! > > I would be very grateful if someone could advise on how to amend the file names? > > Margaret > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

People, May I just add a word of warning about transcribing by Column rather than row. If you do transcribe by row, can I please ask that you take particular care, and ensure that you always verify your page afterwards. As the corrections coordinator, I have come across a considerable number of pages where the fields of a particular row has the surname from one entry, the forenames from the row above, district/volume from the row below etc. If anyone does transcribe by Column, then please take particular care, and please ensure that you carefully verify your pages, as a simple mistake can cause MANY incorrect entries. I would always recommend that BMDVerify (Whichever way you transcribe) is used before uploading pages. It is very simple to use and with careful use can eliminate the vast majority of errors. Whichever way you transcribe, Keep up the good work. Kevin Howell FreeBMD Corrections coordinator. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Thomas [mailto:Mike@mbreliance.f2s.com] > Sent: 08 September 2005 18:40 > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: WinBMD problem > > > Hi Mildred, > > Lot's of others have already advised you how to get out of this by > pressing F2, but can I suggest that you try transcribing in this mode ? > I work like this all the time and think it's quicker ! > > What I do is work all the way done the page filling in the Surname > column, then I save the file (press F3 and ignore the warning about > incomplete lines), then work all the way done the Forenames column, and > so on. I think it's easier and quicker to keep my head in Forename, > District or Page mode etc. for a whole page, rather than constantly > switching between them. > > Give it a try ! > > Mike > > In message <431F53E2.1020301@blueyonder.co.uk>, mfknasmith39 > <mfkn39@blueyonder.co.uk> writes > >Suddenly I have a mechanical problem with WinBMD and wonder if anyone > >can show me how to correct it. > > > >Starting a new page, I type in the first column but when I press the > >Tab key to go to the next column I am taken to the line below of the > >same column instead. So I have to use the "move Right" arrow instead. > >When I reach the end of the line and can't do this, I try the Line > >Space key but am again taken to the line below of the same column. > > > >I have tried to do this on two pages but the same thing happens. > > > >As it will take a long time to transcribe at this rate, I would be > >grateful for advice. > > > >Mildred Nasmith > > > > > > > >==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > >Want to help FreeBMD? > >Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 07/09/2005 > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD Transcribers homepage > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I am a new transcriber and have uploaded transcribed pages, 1911 June Marriages scans - pages 183, 184, 328, no problem. I have had a look at my file management page and my three files are there, they are named as 11M2184 11M2328 1911M20183 I have realised I have omitted to put an 0 before the last tree digits, but where has the 19 in 1911 disappeared to! I would be very grateful if someone could advise on how to amend the file names? Margaret

Jay is correct in his description of the meaning of &c, or etc. I'm doing Dec. 1846 marriages and all the clerks must have been "lazy clerks". It's not only Ashton &c. It's also Lewes, Lexden, Loddon, Tunstead, Winchester, Hereford and others, or, may I say it, &c. Which raises the point, how many transcribers are doing what our instructions say, TWYS - type what you see. The &c is ignored time and time again. Thanks for raising the matter, Kate, so that I may, as it were, get on my soapbox at Hyde Park Corner! If Ashton &c, for example, is an abbreviation by the indexing clerk for Ashton under Lyne, which name came in in full from the registration district in its quarterly return, why are not the registration districts with the &c abbreviation shown in full in the site at FreeBMD where the district is described. Evan S Redcliffe, Qld Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gen Mail" <genmail@btinternet.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 1970 5:51 AM Subject: Re: seeking suggestion for translating 1846 handwritten entries > You may now already have this (we've had a minor computer problem, so > I'm just catching up on e-mails). > > "&c" (with or without additional full stop) was a form of "etc". Both > being an abbreviation for "et cetera", a Latin phrase meaning "and the > rest" or "and so on". > > In the case of "Ashton" it probably means Ashton under Lyne (but that > is by no means certain). You've just got the pages of a particularly > lazy clerk perhaps! > > Hope this helps. > > Jay > > > > > > On Saturday, Sep 3, 2005, at 17:18 Europe/London, Kate McCain wrote: > > > I am currently transcribing handwritten entries from 1846. I have > > managed > > the "L that looks like an S" and similar oddities but one thing has me > > stumped. A few districts (e.g. Ashton, Hereford) have a single > > character > > following the district name that looks like something between an S and > > an > > &. Does anyone know what that character is? > > > > I notice that in the typed lists available from commercial vendors like > > Genealogy.com, this is translated as &c but that may simply be the > > typist's > > code for "I don't know what this character is." > > > > I'd really like to type what I see, but my choices seem to be either > > [S&] > > or _ . If anyone knows what the convention was back then for > > extending the > > names of some districts, and thus what I should be entering, please > > let me > > know. > > > > Kate McCain > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > > Learn more: > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ > > tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >