You normally ask the List Manager (Andrew Billinghurst) shown at the bottom of http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/lists.html . It looks as if Subscription requests are defaulting to the Admins List. More than likely Andrew will read your comments below and respond accordingly. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "bronny.slowe" <bronny.slowe@ntlworld.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 26 October 2005 22:26 Subject: Admins digest I have recently been receiving admins digest emails although I am only subscribed to List - the one pasted below is the 4th I have received, with 2 others in my inbox. Why is this happening and who do I ask? ======================================== Message Received: Oct 25 2005, 08:36 AM From: FreeBMD-Admins-D-request@rootsweb.com To: FreeBMD-Admins-D@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: FreeBMD-Admins-D Digest V05 #200 [ (no name for attachment) (1.6 Kb) ] [ Rescanning policy (2.8 Kb) ] [ Re: Rescanning policy (3.9 Kb) ] [ RE: Rescanning policy (2.4 Kb) ] [ Unknown Character (0.9 Kb) ] [ Unsubscribe (0.5 Kb) ] [ Re: bouquets (0.8 Kb) ] [ RE: Rescanning policy (5.3 Kb) ] [ Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD (0.6 Kb) ] ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I have recently been receiving admins digest emails although I am only subscribed to List - the one pasted below is the 4th I have received, with 2 others in my inbox. Why is this happening and who do I ask? ======================================== Message Received: Oct 25 2005, 08:36 AM From: FreeBMD-Admins-D-request@rootsweb.com To: FreeBMD-Admins-D@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: FreeBMD-Admins-D Digest V05 #200 [ (no name for attachment) (1.6 Kb) ] [ Rescanning policy (2.8 Kb) ] [ Re: Rescanning policy (3.9 Kb) ] [ RE: Rescanning policy (2.4 Kb) ] [ Unknown Character (0.9 Kb) ] [ Unsubscribe (0.5 Kb) ] [ Re: bouquets (0.8 Kb) ] [ RE: Rescanning policy (5.3 Kb) ] [ Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD (0.6 Kb) ]

Hi! I have just looked at the scan in question. I believe the mark to be a florid "plus" (+) sign with the down stroke almost an elongated "s" and joined from its tail to the curved crossbar. I would assume this to be a (then) acceptable abbreviation for "etc". Now, how you transcribe that I am not sure! I don't think WinBMD will accept < Wolstanton+ > as a District and I am not sure FreeBMD would accept it either! HTH (in a somewhat limited way). -- Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivor Clucas" <ivor@clucas.org> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Unknown Character > Roger > > Thanks for this. However on the TWYS principle I should type * as, > although I know now that it is shorthand for &c, that is not what it looks > like and therefore not what I see, > > Cheers > > > Ivor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LH ARC FBMD" <RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com> > To: "'Ivor Clucas'" <ivor@clucas.org>; <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:49 AM > Subject: RE: Unknown Character > > >> Ivor >> >> I think you will find this is " &c " or some variation of. >> >> It happens quite a lot in the XX district names >> >> I have wolstanton & c and Bosmere &c in my list of districts >> I do not know whether they were in the original file or whether I have >> added >> them >> >> Just treat it as "& c" and add it to your list or not as you please >> >> Regards >> >> Roger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ivor Clucas [mailto:ivor@clucas.org] >> Sent: 24 October 2005 16:24 >> To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Unknown Character >> >> I am transcribing marriages for 1849 from scans. I have come across a >> character which is not a letter or number which is inserted after the >> District in a number of cases. A number of examples can be found at: >> >> http://images.freebmd.org.uk/GUS/1849/Marriages/March/EW-02/P-Z/1849M1-P-005 >> 6.jpg >> >> On page 57 of this scan after Wolstanton (3 times), Bosmere and Tiverton >> this unknown character appears. It is NOT an "etc" sign as the places >> have >> not been truncated and it does not look like it. So far I have inserted a >> * >> (uncertain characters). >> >> Should I continue this way or ignore or what? >> >> Thanks >> >> IvorC >> >> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005

Roger Thanks for this. However on the TWYS principle I should type * as, although I know now that it is shorthand for &c, that is not what it looks like and therefore not what I see, Cheers Ivor ----- Original Message ----- From: "LH ARC FBMD" <RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com> To: "'Ivor Clucas'" <ivor@clucas.org>; <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: RE: Unknown Character > Ivor > > I think you will find this is " &c " or some variation of. > > It happens quite a lot in the XX district names > > I have wolstanton & c and Bosmere &c in my list of districts > I do not know whether they were in the original file or whether I have > added > them > > Just treat it as "& c" and add it to your list or not as you please > > Regards > > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivor Clucas [mailto:ivor@clucas.org] > Sent: 24 October 2005 16:24 > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Unknown Character > > I am transcribing marriages for 1849 from scans. I have come across a > character which is not a letter or number which is inserted after the > District in a number of cases. A number of examples can be found at: > > http://images.freebmd.org.uk/GUS/1849/Marriages/March/EW-02/P-Z/1849M1-P-005 > 6.jpg > > On page 57 of this scan after Wolstanton (3 times), Bosmere and Tiverton > this unknown character appears. It is NOT an "etc" sign as the places have > not been truncated and it does not look like it. So far I have inserted a > * > (uncertain characters). > > Should I continue this way or ignore or what? > > Thanks > > IvorC > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD Transcribers homepage > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

----- Original Message ----- From: <FreeBMD-Admins-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: FreeBMD-Admins-D Digest V05 #201

Hi On page 1862D4-N-0008 (found under the O-Z pages) it is clearly indicated that an entry is to be inserted between NOAR, Richard and NOSSIDEN, William. However in the column it says that all entries between NORBURN and NORWOOD go in this space. The entries covering the surnames between NORBURN and NORWOOD start on page 9 and last for 8 pages. Page 9 and 16 also have similar comments in the column. Normally with such inserts where only one or two entries were involved, I would just put them in as indicated. But as there are 8 pages covered by this insert, I'm wondering if a #Comment line would be more appropiate instead. Any suggestions. Thanks

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Ivor I think you will find this is " &c " or some variation of. It happens quite a lot in the XX district names I have wolstanton & c and Bosmere &c in my list of districts I do not know whether they were in the original file or whether I have added them Just treat it as "& c" and add it to your list or not as you please Regards Roger -----Original Message----- From: Ivor Clucas [mailto:ivor@clucas.org] Sent: 24 October 2005 16:24 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Unknown Character I am transcribing marriages for 1849 from scans. I have come across a character which is not a letter or number which is inserted after the District in a number of cases. A number of examples can be found at: http://images.freebmd.org.uk/GUS/1849/Marriages/March/EW-02/P-Z/1849M1-P-005 6.jpg On page 57 of this scan after Wolstanton (3 times), Bosmere and Tiverton this unknown character appears. It is NOT an "etc" sign as the places have not been truncated and it does not look like it. So far I have inserted a * (uncertain characters). Should I continue this way or ignore or what? Thanks IvorC ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD Transcribers homepage http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

While transcribing 1861 marriages, I came across what looked like Mt Bosworth,7a. Wasn't on list of districts that I have, I consulted the website for help and there was a suggestion to type ;7a Tab, which would bring up a list of all districts with that number. It wouldn't let me put the semi-colon so I was still stuck. As it happens, that exact District and Number was in the help section as an answer to another query, so I added it to my picklist. Was this correct, and why couldn't I use the semi-colon? Thanks Karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "DOROTHY LEWIS" <dorothy.dal1@btopenworld.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:25 AM Subject: Uploading first file -error message > Good Evening all > Just tried to upload my first file the following message came. > "Error number 11004, valid name, no data record of requested type. Report > this error". I got the same thing for my first upload too. I just repeated the upload and it worked the second time without any error message. Have you tried the upload a second time? Pat. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Roger > If it does, ... It does > ... is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. I played around with some settings and I think it's most probably "Exclamation" I have Windows XP, and to change the settings the sounds can be found on the Control Panel under "Sounds and Audio Devices" on the "Sounds" tab. If there is not icon to the left of "Exclamation", select it and use the Browse button to pick a sound, or pick "Windows Default" from the "Sound scheme" list. The Windows XP default sound for "Exclamation" is called "Windows XP Exclamation.wav". If you are using a different versions of Windows I expect there will be something very similar. HTH Mary Trevan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LH ARC FBMD" <RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD > Please can anyone tell me whether WINBMD has the capability to make a Sound > warning when an out of sequence entry is ENTERED ? > > > > If it does, is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. > > Or do I have some Option disabled which I need to enable ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Roger Cookson > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > >

Very Strange I have Windows XP Exclamation assigned to Window Exclamation When I test it in Control Panel I get the sound loud and clear When I test an out of sequence condition in WINBMD, I get the message but no sound How ODD R -----Original Message----- From: Mary Trevan [mailto:maryxp@planet.nl] Sent: 25 October 2005 22:08 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD Hi Roger > If it does, ... It does > ... is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. I played around with some settings and I think it's most probably "Exclamation" I have Windows XP, and to change the settings the sounds can be found on the Control Panel under "Sounds and Audio Devices" on the "Sounds" tab. If there is not icon to the left of "Exclamation", select it and use the Browse button to pick a sound, or pick "Windows Default" from the "Sound scheme" list. The Windows XP default sound for "Exclamation" is called "Windows XP Exclamation.wav". If you are using a different versions of Windows I expect there will be something very similar. HTH Mary Trevan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LH ARC FBMD" <RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD > Please can anyone tell me whether WINBMD has the capability to make a Sound > warning when an out of sequence entry is ENTERED ? > > > > If it does, is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. > > Or do I have some Option disabled which I need to enable ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Roger Cookson > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

> *From:* "LH ARC FBMD" <RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com> > *To:* FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks for the comments so far. > > To clear things up, I get all the other Audible warnings just not the > out of sequence > > I think it may use a standard Microsoft sound that is turned off but I > do not know which one Having just checked, it's the Windows 'Exclamation' sound (under Windows XP anyhow). Regards John K.Eason (freeBMD@john-eason.co.uk)

Thanks for the comments so far. To clear things up, I get all the other Audible warnings just not the out of sequence I think it may use a standard Microsoft sound that is turned off but I do not know which one R -----Original Message----- From: LH ARC FBMD [mailto:RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 October 2005 08:29 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD Please can anyone tell me whether WINBMD has the capability to make a Sound warning when an out of sequence entry is ENTERED ? If it does, is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. Or do I have some Option disabled which I need to enable ? Thanks Roger Cookson ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Please check out: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#10f , if all else fails have another attempt at uploading the file? Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOROTHY LEWIS" <dorothy.dal1@btopenworld.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 25 October 2005 21:25 Subject: Uploading first file -error message Good Evening all Just tried to upload my first file the following message came. "Error number 11004, valid name, no data record of requested type. Report this error". Can anyone assist please. thanks Dorothy

Good Evening all Just tried to upload my first file the following message came. "Error number 11004, valid name, no data record of requested type. Report this error". Can anyone assist please. thanks Dorothy

There is an audible warning when an entry is out of sequence. I can't see anywhere to turn this on or off. Also, when you save, you get a message that an entry is out of sequence, with the row number - though I believe the number of rows may include the 5 used for the header information. Regards Sue Smith Family Web Site http://www.harriesfamily.net/ -----Original Message----- From: LH ARC FBMD [mailto:RCooksonFBMD@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 October 2005 08:29 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Out of Sequence warning in WINBMD Please can anyone tell me whether WINBMD has the capability to make a Sound warning when an out of sequence entry is ENTERED ? If it does, is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. Or do I have some Option disabled which I need to enable ? Thanks Roger Cookson ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005

Seems to me that some people are more concerned with their reputation for accuracy rather than the accuracy of the transcribed index. Obviously the best possible scans should be used for each keying. If a better scan becomes available after I have keyed a scan and the rekeyer gets a better result than me then it is for the benefit of all of us. It does not diminish the work put in on the original keying. Regards Peter Goggin -----Original Message----- From: Allan Raymond [mailto:allan_raymond@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 11:56 PM To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Rescanning policy John To clarify a couple of your points. 1. I requested you raise this issue via the Syndicate List, as your expressed concern that Co-ordinators should have an input into any rescanning processes. I for one would like to have defined rescanning process for all to see, which was the basis of our off list discussions. 2. You are in the realms of discussing Policy which is what the DISCUSS list is for. I would recommend that continuance of the discussion is via the Syndicates list or the DISCUSS list. 3. Second Keying will be done using the best source available at that time. We have previously reported our intention to replace poor quality scans please see our News Page at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/news.html . 4. You can't possibly be suggesting that where we have supplied pristine new scans that double keying is undertaken using the previous poor quality scans? Regards Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Slann" <john.slann@btinternet.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 24 October 2005 14:16 Subject: Rescanning policy I have been discussing the absence of a rescan policy with Allan Raymond and he has suggested I raise the matter on the Admins list. He told me a fortnight ago that he would take up the matter of a rescan policy with the Team. More recently he advised that he is sill waiting a response from other team members. And added; One of the main players Dave Mayall has been absent for about a fortnight and I understand from a message I received a couple of days ago he will be off for another couple of weeks. I am a whole hearted supporter of Bob Phillips and his team in their endeavours to re-photograph the poorer quality images as long as they confine their efforts to transcriber requested rescans. Unfortunately they are not doing this and Bob has told me they are ignoring transcriber rescan requests. From the evidence of their efforts on behalf of my syndicate, the criteria they have adopted for selection means they have only picked up a handful of transcriber requested rescans I am convinced that the uploading of non-transcriber rescans requests must stop immediately. If this is not done we are piling up confusion and mayhem when the time comes for the second keying. The uploading of non-requested rescans places coordinators in a difficult position. In effect they are forced to get these unasked-for scans redone. If they are not redone the likelihood is that the second keying will be done using an enhanced image with the probability of an increased numbers of mismatched against the first keying. Second keying should only be done using the same source material. I have monitored and had a contingency plan for getting the approximately 3000 transcriber rescans generated by my syndicate members done when the new material was available. By extrapolating the numbers of non-transciber rescans that have been done within one quarter to all the work done by my syndicate, I find that the program that is underway will generate between 8000 and 10000 pages to be transcribed. The work in getting transcriber requested rescans re-done or amended is considerable, but the addition of unasked for rescans creates an unwelcome and unwanted addition. The handling of rescans is more time consuming than allocating and monitoring transcriber progress. The rescanned material is scattered randomly through a series of scans and whilst it is possible to isolate the new material it is also spread amongst (in my case) 40 or 50 transcribers at least. Each needs an e-mail for each batch of rescans to be done. ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/147 - Release Date: 24/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/147 - Release Date: 24/10/2005

Please can anyone tell me whether WINBMD has the capability to make a Sound warning when an out of sequence entry is ENTERED ? If it does, is it a standard Windows Sound effect and if so which ?. Or do I have some Option disabled which I need to enable ? Thanks Roger Cookson