Jeremy, That made me compare the 2 entries and may give part of the answer! The files are 1911B3P0316 & 0319. The Surname is PRIOR in 0316 & PRYOR in 0319, but otherwise it's the same birth. Chris -----Original Message----- From: JeremyHakes [mailto:jeremy@hakes7476.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 17 January 2006 14:13 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Page Numbers Chris, Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the the Scan file name the entries are on. We will then be in a better position to give advise. It may be that you have references to registrations that was recorded in a later year but it is virtually impossible to say without seeing them. Regards Jeremy District Alias Team -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hughes [mailto:hughes.11@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 17 January 2006 12:23 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Page Numbers I've been transcribing for nearly a year now and have found it pretty straightforward, probably because I've only worked on typed originals later than 1900. However in my current batch I found 2 hand-written "late" entries with strange page numbers. These are in 1911. One says just "0004/s" The other looks like "code/3"; I'd like it to be 0000/3 but really cannot support it!! Now there's no problem in uploading them (other than the usual warning for non-standard page number) but I am intrigued to know what the indexer had in mind. Can anyone throw any light? Chris Hughes ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD Transcribers homepage http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/01/2006

Chris, Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the the Scan file name the entries are on. We will then be in a better position to give advise. It may be that you have references to registrations that was recorded in a later year but it is virtually impossible to say without seeing them. Regards Jeremy District Alias Team -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hughes [mailto:hughes.11@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 17 January 2006 12:23 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Page Numbers I've been transcribing for nearly a year now and have found it pretty straightforward, probably because I've only worked on typed originals later than 1900. However in my current batch I found 2 hand-written "late" entries with strange page numbers. These are in 1911. One says just "0004/s" The other looks like "code/3"; I'd like it to be 0000/3 but really cannot support it!! Now there's no problem in uploading them (other than the usual warning for non-standard page number) but I am intrigued to know what the indexer had in mind. Can anyone throw any light? Chris Hughes ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD Transcribers homepage http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

I've been transcribing for nearly a year now and have found it pretty straightforward, probably because I've only worked on typed originals later than 1900. However in my current batch I found 2 hand-written "late" entries with strange page numbers. These are in 1911. One says just "0004/s" The other looks like "code/3"; I'd like it to be 0000/3 but really cannot support it!! Now there's no problem in uploading them (other than the usual warning for non-standard page number) but I am intrigued to know what the indexer had in mind. Can anyone throw any light? Chris Hughes

Hi Karan, Just a blot so just ignore, but Manchester,XXI should read Manchester,XX Regards Ron. > -----Original Message----- > From: Karan Antonio [mailto:karan32@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: 16 January 2006 12:07 > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Illegible Characters > > > Hi All, > > I have a little problem with scan 1837D3M1119....There is a small mark > that > could be a 1, in the page no. field, but this is actually placed in > between > the 2 following entries: > > MORRISON,Mary,Manchester,XXI,457-and: > MORRISON,Mary,St Olaves Southwark,IV,324 > > Could someone have a look at the scan for me and let me know how and where > to make the correction. I know that I would normally type [1_] but the > problem is do I have to insert a new row with the other fields blank, or > just ignore it. > > Regards > Karan Antonio > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

I think it's just an ink blob, but others may think differently. Regards Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: Karan Antonio [mailto:karan32@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 16 January 2006 12:07 To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Illegible Characters Hi All, I have a little problem with scan 1837D3M1119....There is a small mark that could be a 1, in the page no. field, but this is actually placed in between the 2 following entries: MORRISON,Mary,Manchester,XXI,457-and: MORRISON,Mary,St Olaves Southwark,IV,324 Could someone have a look at the scan for me and let me know how and where to make the correction. I know that I would normally type [1_] but the problem is do I have to insert a new row with the other fields blank, or just ignore it. Regards Karan Antonio ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Transcribers knowledge Base: 6 (x) How do I transcribe an entry which is out of sequence alphabetically with the previous one? Type what you see still applies! But please note: If you are using WinBMD and type what you see, a warning will appear pointing out the out-of-sequence error. However, if you are sure that you have typed it exactly as seen, the warning can be ignored. Having said that, the following would also seem to apply... 6 (g) In transcribing pages there is sometimes a hand-written entry at the foot of the page with a corresponding mark higher in the column. The question is do you a) insert the entry where it is shown that it should be b) insert the entry at the bottom of the column c) insert the entry at the end of the page If the appropriate point for insertion is shown by "x" dagger asterisk etc. then transcribe the extra record as if it was actually at that point (option a). If no insertion point is shown, then insert at the bottom of the page or column as shown on the manuscript. Doing it the 2nd way means no error message. Both ways would appear to be correct. Bronny ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheila Woods To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:07 PM Subject: Re Out of Sequence error I'll add my two cents worth, since it's a little different from having a name at the bottom of the column with an insertion mark. I am transcribing 1858 marriages. In file 1858M2-S-0114.jpg in the second column, the first names for Spackman are Julia Augusta, Emma, Samuel and Sarah. There are very clear + marks (or X's) above and below Emma. I took that to mean that Emma was out of sequence and should be moved, so I put Emma before Julia Augusta. It probably doesn't matter much since all the names will eventually appear in the database, but I'd like to know if that's the correct way to handle it. Sheila Original message: Subject: Out of Sequence error Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:48:19 -0000 From: "Dave Leek" <dave.leek@ntlworld.com> To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com I am transcribing a page where a name is out of sequence. Within a surname, the first names go - Thomas, Rebecca, William. There is a faint 'x' in the margin next to the wrongly positioned 'Rebecca' entry, and another faint 'x' near an entry above it (not quite at the correct insertion point!). Should I transcribe the entry in the correct place? I think someone asked a similar question in December, but for some reason I did not see the answer. Thanks. ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Want to help FreeBMD? Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi All, I have a little problem with scan 1837D3M1119....There is a small mark that could be a 1, in the page no. field, but this is actually placed in between the 2 following entries: MORRISON,Mary,Manchester,XXI,457-and: MORRISON,Mary,St Olaves Southwark,IV,324 Could someone have a look at the scan for me and let me know how and where to make the correction. I know that I would normally type [1_] but the problem is do I have to insert a new row with the other fields blank, or just ignore it. Regards Karan Antonio

Hi Barry, With equal respect, this list is simply not the place for the ongoing discussion. This list is primarily for transcribers and transcription issues, and if you want to have a discussion that belongs on our list FreeBMD-Discuss. The updating of the index on Ancestry is a business decision of that company. Their business decisions on which order they import data into their systems and update their global indices has to lie with them. [I believe that they have been concentrating on the census records.] If you wish to address the matter to them, the email address is support@ancestry.com alternatively they have a message board at Boards > Topics > Ancestry.com > Ancestry Site Comments http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.ancsite No one outside of Ancestry, and I doubt outside of the immediate team doing the work at Ancestry, will know. Definitely none of the transcribers here. Definitely not me. Regards Andrew List-admin for FreeBMD-Admins mailing list -> Visit http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com On 14 Jan 2006 at 16:55, Barry Callaghan wrote: > Andrew > > With the greatest respect, I think it is very relevant that FreeBMD, > in times of difficulty, is giving the impression that its users may > access a copy of its database on Ancestry, when in fact that copy is > 12 months out of date and missing 17% of the current record total. > > My original question remains: Does anyone know when Ancestry is > planning to update its copy? > > I intend to say no more on the matter, but an answer would be welcome. > > Regards > Barry Callaghan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Billinghurst" <billinghurst@tpg.com.au> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:50 PM > Subject: [admin] RE: Ancestry database > > > > Through some of my contacts I have had a response from Ancestry and > > they will update the number shown. They said that the number that > > they had current was a touch over 90 million. > > > > The discussion of the number at Ancestry and their current number is > > not the most relevant topic and it would be nice to draw it to a > > close. Thanks. > > > > Regards Andrew > > List-admin for FreeBMD-Admins mailing list > > -> Visit http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > > Transcribers Knowledge Base at > > http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > > the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > > months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ______________________________

Keith I would recommend you email the Mail List administrator Andrew Billinghurst, details at the bottom of http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/lists.html . Or check out the RootsWeb Help Page at: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ ? Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: " Keith Simpson" <Keylotus@ukonline.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 January 2006 18:17 Subject: Mailing List I have a transcriber who has been denied acess to the mailing list, yet again. The reason given is bouncing messages. Would appreciate help please. Keith Gandalf(uk) Syndicate ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Ray, If you look at the Help and Hints for Beginners (link below), it tells you how to deal with this. If there is data missing from a field, you use a question mark, and that's what you use to replace a missing volume number. Accordingly, you should transcribe this entry as: "Wynn Thomas W. Hill S.Shields,? Sep 30" - no #COMMENT is required. Bear in mind that you only use a question mark when the data is totally missing, not simply illegible. Link for help page: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml Edwina. On 1/15/06, Ray Harrowing <RAY@harrowing.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > I've looked at knowledge base, but can't find guidance on this one - > A handwritten entry at page foot (Births, 1911) shows "Wynn Thomas W. Hill S.Shields Sep 30" > I'm OK on entering in the correct position, but the programme won't allow me to enter "S.Shields" without a vol. no. > Would a #COMMENT on the next line be appropriate? > > Thanks > > Ray. > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > List archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Sheila I second that, I also belong to Scan2, great syndicate to be part of Julie

HI Jayne, I belong to the Scan2 Syndicate and Love it! Derek offers a great training segment and a pretty cool site where each transcriber has their own queue. Everything is organized so you can download your scans, you can see what scans were the last finished, if any scans were missed on the uploading, also you can see your progress on charts and graphs. I really like it, however, I have not had the opportunity to try out other syndicates. I'm stickin' to Scan2!! SheilaW

I have a transcriber who has been denied acess to the mailing list, yet again. The reason given is bouncing messages. Would appreciate help please. Keith Gandalf(uk) Syndicate

Sheila I had exactly the same thing earlier, and did exactly the same as you Julie

I'll add my two cents worth, since it's a little different from having a name at the bottom of the column with an insertion mark. I am transcribing 1858 marriages. In file 1858M2-S-0114.jpg in the second column, the first names for Spackman are Julia Augusta, Emma, Samuel and Sarah. There are very clear + marks (or X's) above and below Emma. I took that to mean that Emma was out of sequence and should be moved, so I put Emma before Julia Augusta. It probably doesn't matter much since all the names will eventually appear in the database, but I'd like to know if that's the correct way to handle it. Sheila Original message: Subject: Out of Sequence error Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:48:19 -0000 From: "Dave Leek" <dave.leek@ntlworld.com> To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com I am transcribing a page where a name is out of sequence. Within a surname, the first names go - Thomas, Rebecca, William. There is a faint 'x' in the margin next to the wrongly positioned 'Rebecca' entry, and another faint 'x' near an entry above it (not quite at the correct insertion point!). Should I transcribe the entry in the correct place? I think someone asked a similar question in December, but for some reason I did not see the answer. Thanks.

Hi Jayne Scan2 can use you At 09:18 AM 15/01/2006, you wrote: >Maybe I'm being thick here, or just lost a vital email.. > > > >I registered to transcribe in my spare time a while ago, but haven't managed >to get any further..do any of you Co-ordinators want me ? I'm guessing you >log all the transcriptions you send out etc so I need a lead. > > > >I've downloaded winBMD ready and waiting. > > > >Jayne > > > >==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== >FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Cheers Derek Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, E-Mail derek.hopkins@sympatico.ca QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/scan2.html ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised daily) (Quebec Family History Society) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.org/qfhs.html Check out my web page (22jan1997) Last Revised 28 May 1998 <http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/index.html> Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2000, 195,000 names) <http://www.cam.org/~hopkde/abney.html> Check out my web Ramsgate page <http://members.adept.co.uk/hopkde> Check out the Quebec Family History web page <http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html>

Before everyone replies to the above subject, I have been contacted by a syndicate co-ordinator and shall be progressing from there, so here endeth this string ! Thanks all, Jayne

Thanks to all for your responses to the subject mailing - especially Allan Raymond for his reassurance. Cheers, Cliff of Coventry

Jayne my syndicate would be more than happy to take you on Have you already registered with FreeBMD Best Wishes John Mellors <http://www.btinternet.com/~jemello/johnm2/> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayne Chalmers" <Jayne@thenuttytart.free-online.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: To Transcribers Co-ordinators... Maybe I'm being thick here, or just lost a vital email.. I registered to transcribe in my spare time a while ago, but haven't managed to get any further..do any of you Co-ordinators want me ? I'm guessing you log all the transcriptions you send out etc so I need a lead. I've downloaded winBMD ready and waiting. Jayne ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 13/01/06

Jayne It is most probable you have misunderstood the process. By virtue of the fact that you posted on this FreeBMD Admin List you are subscribed to it. This list is for "Questions and Answers forum for transcribers and volunteers." However this is completely different to the requirement to enable you to transcribe for FreeBMD. To do this you need to join visit our joining page at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/list-synd.pl?reader=0 and email one of the Syndicate Co-ordinator to join their Syndicate. You will then be supplied with information to enable you to be registered on FreeBMD and commence the transcription process. I'm not aware you are already registered on FreeBMD Allan Raymond FreeBMD Co-ordinator of Syndicate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayne Chalmers" <Jayne@thenuttytart.free-online.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 January 2006 14:18 Subject: To Transcribers Co-ordinators... Maybe I'm being thick here, or just lost a vital email.. I registered to transcribe in my spare time a while ago, but haven't managed to get any further..do any of you Co-ordinators want me ? I'm guessing you log all the transcriptions you send out etc so I need a lead. I've downloaded winBMD ready and waiting. Jayne ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD - http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx